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"Jd" |
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29 May 2004 07:40:10 PM |
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How to terrorize terrorists and end this crap, now. |
As you well know, this crap could go on for quite a long time. And
rather than wimpering and whinning about the whole mess endlessly as
talking heads and debate societies like the UN love to do, why not
speed up the whole process and get to the end of it all so we can move
on with our lives?
Here's how and it's really quite simple. One step.
1) Give the terrorists the option of partaking in an honest to God
"Holy War" by the following proclaimation of Congress....
"We the People of the United States of America do hereby proclaim
that with 48 hours of any next strike by Islamic terrorists upon the
free people of America, on American soil, that the Dome of the Rock on
the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the entire city of Mecca, the entire
city of Medina, and up to but not limted to 12 other highly revered
Muslim Holy sites in the Middle East will be totally obliterated from
the face of the earth by whatever means we deem necessary. We hereby
forewarn the peoples of these locations in order that that may flee
for their lives in the event that Islamic terrorists happen to strike
again on American soil"
Constructive comments welcome,
Jd
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28 Jun 2004 01:58:18 PM |
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In article <g7utd09u5n40e437qnvio959c8vidmekdk@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
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<Bob LeChevalier wrote:
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<>Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
<>>If one actually does believe that the omnipotent, omnipresent, all
<>>benevolent, Holy, Almighty God has indeed predestined everything...
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<>then one believes that BECAUSE the ... God predestined everything.
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<But not believing that has also been predestined... right? Excuse me
<but I'm trying to get a feel as to why folks are so puzzeld over the
<concept of predestination while at the same time, even scientist
<wrestle with the concept of "gravity".
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<Do you endlessly argue with scientist and toss and turn in your sleep
<over the fact that none of your lords of science understand gravity?
<If you do not then you will probably be dismayed when I tell you that
<there is actually something that travels faster than the speed of
<light. And I know what it is.
Someone notify Stockholm.
-- cary
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: How to terrorize errorists and end this crap, now. |
27 Jun 2004 01:12:11 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:58:00 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <g7utd09u5n40e437qnvio959c8vidmekdk@4ax.com>):
Bob LeChevalier wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
If one actually does believe that the omnipotent, omnipresent, all
benevolent, Holy, Almighty God has indeed predestined everything...
then one believes that BECAUSE the ... God predestined everything.
But not believing that has also been predestined... right? Excuse me
but I'm trying to get a feel as to why folks are so puzzeld over the
concept of predestination while at the same time, even scientist
wrestle with the concept of "gravity".
It's cuz they got the words wrong. "Destination", okay? Like,
"Welcome to Fairbanks, one of the larger slums of Alaska, home to
a couple really good folks and a bunch of total asses. We hope
you enjoyed the ride and, the next time you travel, we certainly
want you to go Greyhound."
The other word is "pre-gravity pronounced "preg-ra-vi-ty".
Problem solved! No one would ever be caugt interested in
something named "preg-ra-vi-ty"; not even a grad student (the
lowest of the low and that's why the thingie about professors and
sex and grad students and stuff) would be either stupid enough or
desperate enough to bother with /that/ one.
Problem solved.
Do you endlessly argue with scientist and toss and turn in your sleep
over the fact that none of your lords of science understand gravity?
No, I take Melatonin - available at GNC in 3mg taken with some of
the other pills and another couple 1mg sublingual for those
nights when one is getting so desperate that one's mind turns to
the lords of science and gravity. However, if the melatonin
doesn't put you to sleep, the lords of science and gravity will.
If you do not then you will probably be dismayed when I tell you that
there is actually something that travels faster than the speed of
light. And I know what it is.
Oh, just /everybody/ does. That commercial has been running for
weeks now, guarantied to be faster than light but wait there's
more and so on and so on. I ordered one and the durn cat ate it
the second day I had it so I went back to NASCAR on the cable.
Jd
"Babylon hath been a golden cup in the Lord's hand, that made all the
earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the
nations are mad." (Jeremiah 51:7)
Yeah, yeah, yeah - Saturday night, Anywhere or Nowhere, USA (in
your Chevrolet or sumthin').
++ Gray //
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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26 Jun 2004 01:38:58 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:54:28 -0500, Jd wrote:
Absurd.
If one actually does believe that the omnipotent, omnipresent, all
benevolent,
Oops, you seem to have misspelled "malevolent", hope this helps.
Holy, Almighty God has indeed predestined everything...
then would should fully repent to, respect, honor, submit to and
glorify, and be thankful to such a being once he has discovered the
method of communcating with HIM.
Jd
Which HIM be you talking? I know a HYMN about HIM but that might
not be the same HIM and it would be embarassing to HIM to be
mistaken for the other HIM especially after one HIM had already
been mistaken for the other HIM twice that day (diurnal).
On another hand . . .
Gray Shockley
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So far, it's been /that/ kind of a century.
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| User: "Jd" |
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26 Jun 2004 09:57:59 PM |
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Gray Shockley wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:54:28 -0500, Jd wrote:
Absurd.
If one actually does believe that the omnipotent, omnipresent, all
benevolent,
Oops, you seem to have misspelled "malevolent", hope this helps.
Holy, Almighty God has indeed predestined everything...
then would should fully repent to, respect, honor, submit to and
glorify, and be thankful to such a being once he has discovered the
method of communcating with HIM.
Jd
Which HIM be you talking? I know a HYMN about HIM but that might
not be the same HIM and it would be embarassing to HIM to be
mistaken for the other HIM especially after one HIM had already
been mistaken for the other HIM twice that day (diurnal).
On another hand . . .
Gray Shockley
I get it. You bought some of those trucker pills at the gas station
didn't you?
If you really want to do it right try what they call a "west coast
turn around". That's a 1 pill benny that will enable you to drive
from coast to coast..... then turn around and drive home.
But I'll warn you - you'll only be wasting your time.
Jd
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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27 Jun 2004 12:55:13 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:57:59 -0500, Jd wrote:
I get it. You bought some of those trucker pills at the gas station
didn't you?
I had to; I sure couldn't afford the gas.
If you really want to do it right try what they call a "west coast
turn around".
Naw; I went to the west coast once. I never did figure out why.
That's a 1 pill benny that will enable you to drive
from coast to coast..... then turn around and drive home.
Naw; I'd rather take my truck.
But I'll warn you - you'll only be wasting your time.
Goodness, gracious, me! That would be horrendous!
Jd
++ Gray //
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| User: "Midjis" |
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22 Jun 2004 11:57:58 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
What? Have you become so myopic that you've failed to realize how
many Muslims need to be saved and how much of the middle east is in
total darkness?
Muslims do not need to be saved by the Christian God. They are Muslims and
answer to their own God, as do you. Do you need to be saved by Allah?
The fact that these gods are one and the same - according to your own holy
texts - is, as always, denied by both sides, so why treat them as one god
at all? After all, what the book says is only of use when it justifies
your prejudices, right?
Are you so obsessed with what is going on around you in your 20 ft.
circle that you're unaware that those dune coons would relieve your
head from your body if given half a chance?
Ah - this must be that wonderful Christian charity and humility we have
heard so much about. Or is it perhaps just basic human racism?
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Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Jd" |
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25 Jun 2004 10:54:27 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
What? Have you become so myopic that you've failed to realize how
many Muslims need to be saved and how much of the middle east is in
total darkness?
Muslims do not need to be saved by the Christian God. They are Muslims and
answer to their own God, as do you. Do you need to be saved by Allah?
The fact that these gods are one and the same - according to your own holy
texts - is, as always, denied by both sides, so why treat them as one god
at all? After all, what the book says is only of use when it justifies
your prejudices, right?
What? I'm saying warn Muslims that if in the event Muslims strike
again upon US soil that we will level their Holy sites (using nukes,
daisy cutters, cluster bombs and MOABS plus whatever else it takes)
within 24 hours.
We give the terrorists the oppurtunity to terrorize themselves that
way. And BTW, you see absoulutely ZERO condemnation by the Muslim
world of Muslim terror acts (unless those acts are enacted in Saudi
Arabia).
In summary, if we do what I suggest we engage our enemies in the "Holy
War" they so desire using "Holy War" methods.
Let the world view the outcome and make up it's own mind whether the
therm "Allah" should be erased from all literature upon the face of
the earth.
Jd
"And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy
all the nations that come against Jerusalem." (Zechariah 12:9)
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| User: "Midjis" |
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26 Jun 2004 07:19:16 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
What? I'm saying warn Muslims that if in the event Muslims strike
again upon US soil that we will level their Holy sites (using nukes,
daisy cutters, cluster bombs and MOABS plus whatever else it takes)
within 24 hours.
Why? At the moment, the media are trying to make us associate terrorism
with Islam. Dubya wants a new crusade, evidently because he thinks like
you do, and so he needs to generate public support. And people like you
are more than keen to fall into line and believe what you are told.
Would I be right in guessing that when someone says "terrorist" to you,
you see an Arab in your mind's eye?
So it may come as a surprise to you to learn that the majority of Muslims
are NOT, in fact, terrorists. But I will tell you this: if you do as you
propose, as a response to the actions of a few, THEY WILL BE. If you
attack an entire culture because of the way you have been conditioned to
perceive it, then you initiate a self-fulfilling prophecy. That culture
will turn against you with all the ferocity it can muster - probably
along with quite a lot of the rest of the world.
Lest it escaped your notice, your 'righteous liberation' of Iraq was not
viewed as such even by all the western nations, much less by those in the
east. And it may be worth remembering that your country is sitting on
the world's largest stockpile of weapons of mass destruction while it
declares other nations part of your president's 'axis of evil'. At the
moment you can at least claim that you have only ever used them in
conflict once (although that is once more than any other country on
Earth, of course), but thanks to your pseudo-elected president you are
increasingly being seen as the bully boy of the world. Can you imagine
what the world would think of you if you did what you suggest?
In summary, if we do what I suggest we engage our enemies in the "Holy
War" they so desire using "Holy War" methods.
And thus you make yourself the very thing you claim to hate. Just as
George Bush did following 9/11. In his haste to lash out, as you would
lash out, he squandered world sympathy and turned 9/11 into the beginning
of a war that would see America start down the road to paranoia and
xenophobia. And you are one of those who are leading the way down that
road.
Let the world view the outcome and make up it's own mind whether the
therm "Allah" should be erased from all literature upon the face of
the earth.
Ah? So not only would you destroy millions of people for the sake of
indulging your own anger, but you would also try to re-write history.
The whole 'civilization' thing pretty much passed you by, did it not?
--
Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Jd" |
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26 Jun 2004 09:58:01 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
What? I'm saying warn Muslims that if in the event Muslims strike
again upon US soil that we will level their Holy sites (using nukes,
daisy cutters, cluster bombs and MOABS plus whatever else it takes)
within 24 hours.
Why? At the moment, the media are trying to make us associate terrorism
with Islam. Dubya wants a new crusade, evidently because he thinks like
you do, and so he needs to generate public support. And people like you
are more than keen to fall into line and believe what you are told.
Would I be right in guessing that when someone says "terrorist" to you,
you see an Arab in your mind's eye?
Not completely. Sometimes my mind's eye sees democrats.
So it may come as a surprise to you to learn that the majority of Muslims
are NOT, in fact, terrorists. But I will tell you this: if you do as you
propose, as a response to the actions of a few, THEY WILL BE. If you
attack an entire culture because of the way you have been conditioned to
perceive it, then you initiate a self-fulfilling prophecy. That culture
will turn against you with all the ferocity it can muster - probably
along with quite a lot of the rest of the world.
Let me guess... you think Christians are to blame for global warming
and that faggots and bi-sexuals are not resnsible for spreading
HIV-aids across the entire globe - even to heterosexuals who they
trick into having sex.
Lest it escaped your notice, your 'righteous liberation' of Iraq was not
viewed as such even by all the western nations, much less by those in the
east. And it may be worth remembering that your country is sitting on
the world's largest stockpile of weapons of mass destruction while it
declares other nations part of your president's 'axis of evil'. At the
moment you can at least claim that you have only ever used them in
conflict once (although that is once more than any other country on
Earth, of course), but thanks to your pseudo-elected president you are
increasingly being seen as the bully boy of the world. Can you imagine
what the world would think of you if you did what you suggest?
Sure. They would think the same thing that you think of me when you
finish reading one of my replies in which I show no inclination
whatsoever WRT compromising with anyone who espouses the doctines of
devils.
In summary, if we do what I suggest we engage our enemies in the "Holy
War" they so desire using "Holy War" methods.
And thus you make yourself the very thing you claim to hate. Just as
George Bush did following 9/11. In his haste to lash out, as you would
lash out, he squandered world sympathy and turned 9/11 into the beginning
of a war that would see America start down the road to paranoia and
xenophobia. And you are one of those who are leading the way down that
road.
Let the world view the outcome and make up it's own mind whether the
therm "Allah" should be erased from all literature upon the face of
the earth.
Ah? So not only would you destroy millions of people for the sake of
indulging your own anger, but you would also try to re-write history.
The whole 'civilization' thing pretty much passed you by, did it not?
Muslims want to do to the Jews the very same thing Hitler wanted to do
to them.
Muslims hate America because Americans will not compromise 100% with
them in their desires to do to the Jews the same thing Hitler wanted
to do to them.
There's no wiggle room, no where to hide.
Jd
"Either you're with us, or you're with the terorists" - G.W. Bush
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| User: "Midjis" |
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27 Jun 2004 08:53:22 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Not completely. Sometimes my mind's eye sees democrats.
Ah? So you admit you have little idea what constitutes 'terrorism',
then.
Let me guess... you think Christians are to blame for global warming
No. Personally I think that global warming as it is measured at present
is largely a natural process - I am not convinced that we can say how
warm the planet is supposed to get. I am prepared to accept that a
measure of it is influenced by human chemical output, but I am no
scientist so I prefer to let those who know what they are doing make the
judgements on that point. As far as I am aware, Christians in general
have no more or less connection to global warming than any other group.
and that faggots and bi-sexuals are not resnsible for spreading
HIV-aids across the entire globe - even to heterosexuals who they
trick into having sex.
HIV and AIDS are transmitted via sexual contact, yes. Contrary to the
belief of people like yourself, that sexual contact need not be with a
homosexual or a bisexual individual, and the virus can just as easily be
transmitted between heterosexuals. It can also be transmitted through
various other routes. It does not discriminate - it does not care what
orientation someone is. Your hatred makes you content to embrace your
ignorance.
Of course, if you want me to blame Christians for something, if that will
make you feel more at ease and allow you to claim that I am anti-
Christian, then I could say that I believe that a tiny minority of
Christians are directly or indirectly responsible for a surprisingly huge
proportion of the bigotry in the western world. Of course, that is more
to do with their own attitude than their religion - as always,
Christianity just gets used as an excuse.
Sure. They would think the same thing that you think of me when you
finish reading one of my replies in which I show no inclination
whatsoever WRT compromising with anyone who espouses the doctines of
devils.
And you, who demanded in your other post that we pagans and atheists and
assorted 'godless' types should leave you Christians alone and respect
your right to believe what you want to believe, think that YOUR belief in
devils gives you the right to incinerate whole swathes of people with
nuclear weapons?
Muslims want to do to the Jews the very same thing Hitler wanted to do
to them.
Muslims hate America because Americans will not compromise 100% with
them in their desires to do to the Jews the same thing Hitler wanted
to do to them.
Muslims hate America, do they? Apart from the ones that do not. You
see, this is my point. You are the ideal media pawn. The benchmark
bobblehat. You simply drop into line and believe what you are told to
believe, especially when it seems to agree with your religious
prejudices. You talk about how 'Muslims' do this and 'Muslims' think
that, safe in the knowledge that inside every Muslim is a terrorist
waiting to get out. To try to tell you otherwise, to point out that the
majority of Muslims just want to get on with their lives and enjoy their
OWN right to worship as they wish, is futile. That would interfere too
much with the comfy worldview you have built for yourself.
No-one is trying to deny that there are terrorists who call themselves
Muslims, just as there are terrorists who call themselves Christians -
but the point is you have taken the easy route. Is it far simpler to
lump them all in together and stick a single label on all Muslims than it
is to accept that they are just as wide a range of attitudes, feelings
and beliefs as the Christian people of America or Britain.
"Either you're with us, or you're with the terorists" - G.W. Bush
"Make the pie higher" - G.W. Bush
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Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Jd" |
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27 Jun 2004 09:05:39 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Not completely. Sometimes my mind's eye sees democrats.
Ah? So you admit you have little idea what constitutes 'terrorism',
then.
I do? Goodness. I didn't know I did that. What else have I done that
I'm unaware of?
Let me guess... you think Christians are to blame for global warming
No. Personally I think that global warming as it is measured at present
is largely a natural process - I am not convinced that we can say how
warm the planet is supposed to get. I am prepared to accept that a
measure of it is influenced by human chemical output, but I am no
scientist so I prefer to let those who know what they are doing make the
judgements on that point. As far as I am aware, Christians in general
have no more or less connection to global warming than any other group.
Those environmental wackos actually worship their goddess... "Mother
Earth". Pagans have been involved in worshipping female dieties since
wiccans started religion. Which makes me wonder "why don't folks like
these athiests suggest we burn witches for causing all this trouble"?
You do realize that witchcraft is one of the oldest, if not "the
oldest" religion women have ever known don't you?
Plan #2. Send 100 witches and 100 lizbins to the middle east, all
armed with cell phones, laptops, and minivans... and the terrorists
will no doubt surrender within 30 days.
They will be so dumbfounded by the sight and sounds of 200 fat-assed
women buzzing around looking for a MacDonalds and a motel with
unlimited, free porn satellite TV... that they will no boubt, beg us
to imprison them.
later,
Jd
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| User: "Midjis" |
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28 Jun 2004 06:35:58 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ah? So you admit you have little idea what constitutes 'terrorism',
then.
I do? Goodness. I didn't know I did that. What else have I done that
I'm unaware of?
I do not know, but whatever it is I doubt if it is all that surprising,
you do not seem to have much of a grip on things.
You say that when you hear the word 'terrorist', you think either of
Arabs or democrats. That tells me you have little idea what constitutes
'terrorism'.
Those environmental wackos actually worship their goddess... "Mother
Earth". Pagans have been involved in worshipping female dieties since
wiccans started religion. Which makes me wonder "why don't folks like
these athiests suggest we burn witches for causing all this trouble"?
Firstly, not all 'environmental wackos' are wackos, and not all of them
worship any goddess. Some are Christian, some are atheist. Being
environmentally aware does not require any specific religious belief.
Secondly, Wiccans did not start religion. Wicca is a relatively recent
development, and is predated by most of the world's religions, with the
possible exception of Scientology.
Atheists have, to my knowledge, never suggested burning anyone, witch or
not - that has generally been a Christian pastime.
You do realize that witchcraft is one of the oldest, if not "the
oldest" religion women have ever known don't you?
I do not recognise it as such, no. It is a claim often made by Wiccans,
and is an argument I am currently having elsewhere on this group. In
deference to that discussion it may be that some or all of the root
practises and traditions of 'witchcraft' date back into distant history.
But an important point you have not grasped is that witchcraft is not in
itself a religion. You are confusing it with Wicca, and Wicca - or what
was to become modern Wicca - was created around the 1940s-1950s mark in
Britain.
Plan #2. Send 100 witches and 100 lizbins to the middle east, all
armed with cell phones, laptops, and minivans... and the terrorists
will no doubt surrender within 30 days.
Irrelevant and facile.
later,
Later, we may get a sensible post from you. Possibly.
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Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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27 Jun 2004 01:17:13 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:58:01 -0500, Jd wrote:
"Either you're with us, or you're with the terorists" - G.W. Bush
"The bicephalous mind is a terrible thing;
a waste." - Gray Shockley (kinda)
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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22 Jun 2004 09:43:03 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:30:24 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <iqqgd01atufh4n08gr3lil93jg2etb4pjh@4ax.com>):
What? Have you become so myopic that you've failed to realize how
many Muslims need to be saved and how much of the middle east is in
total darkness?
Are you so obsessed with what is going on around you in your 20 ft.
circle that you're unaware that those dune coons would relieve your
head from your body if given half a chance?
Quite being so self-centered and possesed with an untold number of
devils
Nonsense.
Cary is very good in mathematics and I betcha he knows exactly
how many devils by which he is possessed.
Goodness, his cats probably play with them.
You need to remember that although cats are smarter than devils,
dogs let themselves be bossed around and intimidated by them.
And it does take a while to get devils used to the routine in
one's abode and stop screwing everything up. Hence the saying:
"Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know".
Gray Shockley
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'specially if he were just kidding.
[above is not a sentence but simply a claws]
as a result of turning from Christ and trying to engage me in
battle.
For your own well being, quite while you're still ahead and still have
a head.
Jd
1Samuel 17:45 Then said David to the Philistine, "Thou comest to me
with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee
in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel,
whom thou hast defied".
1Samuel 17:46 "This day will the Lord deliver thee into mine hand;
and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give
the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of
the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may
know that there is a God in Israel".
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25 Jun 2004 10:54:28 PM |
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Gray Shockley wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:30:24 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <iqqgd01atufh4n08gr3lil93jg2etb4pjh@4ax.com>):
What? Have you become so myopic that you've failed to realize how
many Muslims need to be saved and how much of the middle east is in
total darkness?
Are you so obsessed with what is going on around you in your 20 ft.
circle that you're unaware that those dune coons would relieve your
head from your body if given half a chance?
Quite being so self-centered and possesed with an untold number of
devils
Nonsense.
Cary is very good in mathematics and I betcha he knows exactly
how many devils by which he is possessed.
Goodness, his cats probably play with them.
You need to remember that although cats are smarter than devils,
dogs let themselves be bossed around and intimidated by them.
And it does take a while to get devils used to the routine in
one's abode and stop screwing everything up. Hence the saying:
"Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know".
Gray Shockley
Go get Gray. I need to discuss something with him.
Jd
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26 Jun 2004 01:43:25 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:54:28 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <n5drd01ag34c56c8tj053i90bjmmj4450n@4ax.com>):
Gray Shockley wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:30:24 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <iqqgd01atufh4n08gr3lil93jg2etb4pjh@4ax.com>):
What? Have you become so myopic that you've failed to realize how
many Muslims need to be saved and how much of the middle east is in
total darkness?
Are you so obsessed with what is going on around you in your 20 ft.
circle that you're unaware that those dune coons would relieve your
head from your body if given half a chance?
Quite being so self-centered and possesed with an untold number of
devils
Nonsense.
Cary is very good in mathematics and I betcha he knows exactly
how many devils by which he is possessed.
Goodness, his cats probably play with them.
You need to remember that although cats are smarter than devils,
dogs let themselves be bossed around and intimidated by them.
And it does take a while to get devils used to the routine in
one's abode and stop screwing everything up. Hence the saying:
"Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know".
Gray Shockley
Go get Gray. I need to discuss something with him.
Jd
Can't. He said he was gonna get some sleep. If you had the
courtesy to send messages that he would read earlier in the
evening, he probably would have read it. You might need to think
long and hard about sending people messages that you know they
won't read until after they go to bed.
++ Gray //
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26 Jun 2004 09:57:58 PM |
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Gray Shockley wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:54:28 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <n5drd01ag34c56c8tj053i90bjmmj4450n@4ax.com>):
Gray Shockley wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:30:24 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <iqqgd01atufh4n08gr3lil93jg2etb4pjh@4ax.com>):
What? Have you become so myopic that you've failed to realize how
many Muslims need to be saved and how much of the middle east is in
total darkness?
Are you so obsessed with what is going on around you in your 20 ft.
circle that you're unaware that those dune coons would relieve your
head from your body if given half a chance?
Quite being so self-centered and possesed with an untold number of
devils
Nonsense.
Cary is very good in mathematics and I betcha he knows exactly
how many devils by which he is possessed.
Goodness, his cats probably play with them.
You need to remember that although cats are smarter than devils,
dogs let themselves be bossed around and intimidated by them.
And it does take a while to get devils used to the routine in
one's abode and stop screwing everything up. Hence the saying:
"Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know".
Gray Shockley
Go get Gray. I need to discuss something with him.
Jd
Can't. He said he was gonna get some sleep. If you had the
courtesy to send messages that he would read earlier in the
evening, he probably would have read it. You might need to think
long and hard about sending people messages that you know they
won't read until after they go to bed.
++ Gray //
Ok. Times up. 2 seconds is long and hard enough ain't it?
Jd
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27 Jun 2004 12:48:03 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:57:58 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <itttd091mjafon2get957p4qcgua1bjrq3@4ax.com>):
Gray Shockley wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:54:28 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <n5drd01ag34c56c8tj053i90bjmmj4450n@4ax.com>):
Gray Shockley wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:30:24 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <iqqgd01atufh4n08gr3lil93jg2etb4pjh@4ax.com>):
What? Have you become so myopic that you've failed to realize how
many Muslims need to be saved and how much of the middle east is in
total darkness?
Are you so obsessed with what is going on around you in your 20 ft.
circle that you're unaware that those dune coons would relieve your
head from your body if given half a chance?
Quite being so self-centered and possesed with an untold number of
devils
Nonsense.
Cary is very good in mathematics and I betcha he knows exactly
how many devils by which he is possessed.
Goodness, his cats probably play with them.
You need to remember that although cats are smarter than devils,
dogs let themselves be bossed around and intimidated by them.
And it does take a while to get devils used to the routine in
one's abode and stop screwing everything up. Hence the saying:
"Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know".
Gray Shockley
Go get Gray. I need to discuss something with him.
Jd
Can't. He said he was gonna get some sleep. If you had the
courtesy to send messages that he would read earlier in the
evening, he probably would have read it. You might need to think
long and hard about sending people messages that you know they
won't read until after they go to bed.
++ Gray //
Ok. Times up. 2 seconds is long and hard enough ain't it?
Jd
No and you missed Gray //again//!
++ Gray //
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22 Jun 2004 10:57:43 AM |
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In article <rIGdnQSUrojq2EXdRVn-sA@giganews.com> Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> writes:
<On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:30:24 -0500, Jd wrote
<(in article <iqqgd01atufh4n08gr3lil93jg2etb4pjh@4ax.com>):
<
<> What? Have you become so myopic that you've failed to realize how
<> many Muslims need to be saved and how much of the middle east is in
<> total darkness?
<>
<> Are you so obsessed with what is going on around you in your 20 ft.
<> circle that you're unaware that those dune coons would relieve your
<> head from your body if given half a chance?
<>
<> Quite being so self-centered and possesed with an untold number of
<> devils
<
<Nonsense.
<
<Cary is very good in mathematics and I betcha he knows exactly
<how many devils by which he is possessed.
<
<Goodness, his cats probably play with them.
<
<You need to remember that although cats are smarter than devils,
<dogs let themselves be bossed around and intimidated by them.
<
<
<And it does take a while to get devils used to the routine in
<one's abode and stop screwing everything up. Hence the saying:
<"Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know".
Currently I've got a project going to see if they can be
trained to carry out routine household chores like
vacuuming or cleaning the catbox. I figure with
a bit of ingenuity, I can put the Roomba folks totally
out of business.
The current snag is that my "universal remote" appears
to be useless on demons. Kind of a limited definition
of "universal", if you ask me.
-- cary
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22 Jun 2004 01:24:58 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:57:43 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <cb9ktn$glt$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):
In article <rIGdnQSUrojq2EXdRVn-sA@giganews.com> Gray Shockley
<gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> writes:
<On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:30:24 -0500, Jd wrote
<(in article <iqqgd01atufh4n08gr3lil93jg2etb4pjh@4ax.com>):
<
<> What? Have you become so myopic that you've failed to realize how
<> many Muslims need to be saved and how much of the middle east is in
<> total darkness?
<>
<> Are you so obsessed with what is going on around you in your 20 ft.
<> circle that you're unaware that those dune coons would relieve your
<> head from your body if given half a chance?
<>
<> Quite being so self-centered and possesed with an untold number of
<> devils
<
<Nonsense.
<
<Cary is very good in mathematics and I betcha he knows exactly
<how many devils by which he is possessed.
<
<Goodness, his cats probably play with them.
<
<You need to remember that although cats are smarter than devils,
<dogs let themselves be bossed around and intimidated by them.
<
<
<And it does take a while to get devils used to the routine in
<one's abode and stop screwing everything up. Hence the saying:
<"Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know".
Currently I've got a project going to see if they can be
trained to carry out routine household chores like
vacuuming or cleaning the catbox. I figure with
a bit of ingenuity, I can put the Roomba folks totally
out of business.
The current snag is that my "universal remote" appears
to be useless on demons. Kind of a limited definition
of "universal", if you ask me.
-- cary
Look under:
Tools [of Religion]
1. one side
2. the other side
Also, see:
chromosome, Y
As well as:
4. geegaws
5. gadjets
dontchurknow
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Gray Shockley (out of order) & I don't care if
the chair recognizes me or not. I could care
less what a piece of furniture thinks.
[except in Xanth, of course]
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18 Jun 2004 06:43:27 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Your pseudo-religion is humanism and
I utter detest it and oppose it on every occasion.
MILTON: Who are you carrying all those bricks for anyway? God? Is that
it? God? Well, I'll tell ya, lemme give you a little inside information
about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives
man instincts! He gives this extraordinary gift and then what does He do?
I swear for His own amusement, His own private cosmic gag reel... He
sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look, but
don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste... Don't swallow! And while
you're jumping from one foot to the next, He's laughing His sick fucking
***** off! He's a tight *****! He's a sadist! He's an absentee landlord!
Worship that? Never!
LOMAX: Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven, is that it?
MILTON: Why not? I'm here on the ground with my nose in it since the
whole thing began! I've nurtured every sensation Man has been inspired
to have! I cared about what he wanted and I never judged him. Why?
Because I never rejected him! In spite of all his imperfections, I'm a
fan of man! I'm a humanist. Maybe the last humanist.
- John Milton (Al Pacino) & Kevin Lomax (Keanu Reeves) - "The Devil's
Advocate"
Sorry. Any excuse to quote that fantastic speech.
--
Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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18 Jun 2004 01:44:44 PM |
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In article <Xns950C818AF30A1LibriumLibertasEst¸.32.252.50> Midjis < @ . > writes:
<
<Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
<
<> Your pseudo-religion is humanism and
<> I utter detest it and oppose it on every occasion.
<
<
<MILTON: Who are you carrying all those bricks for anyway? God? Is that
<it? God? Well, I'll tell ya, lemme give you a little inside information
<about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives
<man instincts! He gives this extraordinary gift and then what does He do?
<I swear for His own amusement, His own private cosmic gag reel... He
<sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look, but
<don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste... Don't swallow! And while
<you're jumping from one foot to the next, He's laughing His sick fucking
<***** off! He's a tight *****! He's a sadist! He's an absentee landlord!
<Worship that? Never!
<
<LOMAX: Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven, is that it?
<
<MILTON: Why not? I'm here on the ground with my nose in it since the
<whole thing began! I've nurtured every sensation Man has been inspired
<to have! I cared about what he wanted and I never judged him. Why?
<Because I never rejected him! In spite of all his imperfections, I'm a
<fan of man! I'm a humanist. Maybe the last humanist.
<
<- John Milton (Al Pacino) & Kevin Lomax (Keanu Reeves) - "The Devil's
<Advocate"
<
<
<Sorry. Any excuse to quote that fantastic speech.
<
Oh, that's good. Thank you.
--cary
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14 Jun 2004 06:13:50 PM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Well, I had to "tell" you something because I had no idea what you
"feel".
It's tough holding up both sides of this discussion.
If you are having to do so then either you have misinterpreted the
discussion or there is no cause to be having a discussion.
My query was straighforward enough. I simply do not understand why I
should be standing up to these 'neo-Sods' to whom you refer, when their
agenda is, in your view, simply to undermine a holy text that I do not
follow.
--
Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Jd" |
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17 Jun 2004 10:03:31 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Well, I had to "tell" you something because I had no idea what you
"feel".
It's tough holding up both sides of this discussion.
If you are having to do so then either you have misinterpreted the
discussion or there is no cause to be having a discussion.
My query was straighforward enough. I simply do not understand why I
should be standing up to these 'neo-Sods' to whom you refer, when their
agenda is, in your view, simply to undermine a holy text that I do not
follow.
You should be standing up to them to see if nothing else, whether or
not you should be following them or the "Holy text". Both can't be
right. But if you have no inclination to determine right from wrong
you should just continue sitting on the sidelines.
I hunger and thirst for the knowledge of the difference between right
and wrong almost to the point of being obsessed. Consequently, I
always have plenty to eat and drink to fill my ravenous appetite.
Don't take any of this personal.
Jd
Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after
righteousness: for they shall be filled." - Jesus
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18 Jun 2004 06:35:54 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
You should be standing up to them to see if nothing else, whether or
not you should be following them or the "Holy text". Both can't be
right.
You speak (metaphorically speaking) as though these are the only two
available positions.
Don't take any of this personal.
I would not know how.
--
Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Jd" |
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22 Jun 2004 12:30:23 AM |
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Midjis wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
You should be standing up to them to see if nothing else, whether or
not you should be following them or the "Holy text". Both can't be
right.
You speak (metaphorically speaking) as though these are the only two
available positions.
That's right. There are only two ways. The right way and the wrong
way. I realize that such a simple truth does not go over too well in
todays Boy George culture of wiggerized faggots where folks only want
to hear things that please their ears.
Truth of the matter is that many of the young folks, yippies, and
social elites in Americas culture are deeply (and perhaps
unknowingly... because of deception) involved in a full scale
rebellion against the Almighty.
Fortunately the Almighty having foreknowldge of these things,
forewarned us and instructed us WRT these things and enabled some of
us to proclaim these things before the general populace in order that
they (or some of them) might be able to repent and find the way i.e.
the "right" way.
Isaiah 30:8-11 "Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it
in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever
That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will
not hear the law of the Lord: Which say to the seers, "See not"; and
to the prophets, "Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us
smooth things, prophesy deceits: Get you out of the way, turn aside
out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before
us"."
Nevertheless, God sends His spokesmen (whom He also empowers via His
Spirit) to speak the truth. And it's that divine power emanating from
mere mortals that the devil hates so much.
"But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of
judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and
to Israel his sin" (Micah 3:8)
That's because the devil has been cast out of heaven and is now
limited to the earthly realm where he is forced to use deception since
the saints of God actually have the final say so.
And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, "Lord, even the
devils are subject unto us through thy name". And he [Jesus] said unto
them, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven". (Luke 10:17-18)
Igo Beforu (a.k.a "Jd")
"But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee." -
Jesus (Matthew 26:32)
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22 Jun 2004 11:52:42 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
That's right. There are only two ways. The right way and the wrong
way. I realize that such a simple truth does not go over too well in
todays Boy George culture of wiggerized faggots where folks only want
to hear things that please their ears.
'Wiggerized faggots'. Truly, the words of the righteous.
Fortunately the Almighty having foreknowldge of these things,
Having intended from the beginning that they should happen...
forewarned us and instructed us WRT these things and enabled some of
us to proclaim these things before the general populace
Whom He also designed...
in order that
they (or some of them) might be able to repent and find the way i.e.
the "right" way.
As opposed to the OTHER way that He has ordained for them.
Nevertheless, God sends His spokesmen (whom He also empowers via His
Spirit) to speak the truth.
Yes - His Special Chosen Ones. Of whom there are a remarkable number on
this very group - and most saying quite different things.
And it's that divine power emanating from
mere mortals that the devil hates so much.
Which is the argument you use to rationalise to yourself the irritation,
abuse and argument your holier-than-thou attitude no doubt provokes.
--
Midjis
~~
ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Jd" |
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25 Jun 2004 10:54:29 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
That's right. There are only two ways. The right way and the wrong
way. I realize that such a simple truth does not go over too well in
todays Boy George culture of wiggerized faggots where folks only want
to hear things that please their ears.
'Wiggerized faggots'. Truly, the words of the righteous.
Fortunately the Almighty having foreknowldge of these things,
Having intended from the beginning that they should happen...
forewarned us and instructed us WRT these things and enabled some of
us to proclaim these things before the general populace
Whom He also designed...
in order that
they (or some of them) might be able to repent and find the way i.e.
the "right" way.
As opposed to the OTHER way that He has ordained for them.
Nevertheless, God sends His spokesmen (whom He also empowers via His
Spirit) to speak the truth.
Yes - His Special Chosen Ones. Of whom there are a remarkable number on
this very group - and most saying quite different things.
And it's that divine power emanating from
mere mortals that the devil hates so much.
Which is the argument you use to rationalise to yourself the irritation,
abuse and argument your holier-than-thou attitude no doubt provokes.
And your point?
Jd
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26 Jun 2004 06:58:37 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Midjis wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
That's right. There are only two ways. The right way and the wrong
way. I realize that such a simple truth does not go over too well
in todays Boy George culture of wiggerized faggots where folks only
want to hear things that please their ears.
'Wiggerized faggots'. Truly, the words of the righteous.
Fortunately the Almighty having foreknowldge of these things,
Having intended from the beginning that they should happen...
forewarned us and instructed us WRT these things and enabled some of
us to proclaim these things before the general populace
Whom He also designed...
in order that
they (or some of them) might be able to repent and find the way
i.e. the "right" way.
As opposed to the OTHER way that He has ordained for them.
Nevertheless, God sends His spokesmen (whom He also empowers via His
Spirit) to speak the truth.
Yes - His Special Chosen Ones. Of whom there are a remarkable number
on this very group - and most saying quite different things.
And it's that divine power emanating from
mere mortals that the devil hates so much.
Which is the argument you use to rationalise to yourself the
irritation, abuse and argument your holier-than-thou attitude no doubt
provokes.
And your point?
Oh dear. One of the weakest responses available.
Well, if I must spell it out to you, so be it.
Firstly, your words speak of hatred. "Wiggerised faggots". You do not
show the forgiving nature and the humility that Jesus taught. Perhaps
he, too, felt hatred and revulsion for what he thought was sin, but he
was able to control himself. More likely he saw things rather
differently. And his mission was to save souls, not to demonstrate his
own superiority over them. By his manner, and his demonstrated care for
his Father's people, he DID show his righteousness. His attitude would
attract followers and converts to a God whom they might feel really
cares about them. But why would people want to learn about a god if
they are constantly being told He hates them? Too many people on this
group and elsewhere think that they can achieve righteousness by simply
shouting that they are righteous and denouncing everyone else. It does
not work that way.
Secondly, you talk of your God's foreknowledge of such a thing
happening. Well, this raises the eternal riddle of just how omnipotent
your God actually is. If He is all-powerful, as is claimed, then those
who fall away from Him into evil do so because HE allows evil to exist.
Our suffering is part of His grand plan - so His reasons for it had
better be good.
Thirdly, He designed us as humans. He designed those who would
obsessively follow Him, He designed those who would reject Him, and
those who would dither in the middle. We ALL act in accordance with our
nature - and He designed our nature.
Fourthly, the claim that certain people are His divine spokespeople,
blessed with the Holy Spirit, is a claim usually being made by those who
go on to identify themselves as such. Just as in your case. These
people, however, rarely seem to operate in a manner consistent with the
Bible's teaching about God, and rather go about their business in a way
that appears designed to boost their own egos. It is one thing to claim
holiness - it is quite another to actually BE holy.
Finally, you speak of the hatred the Devil has for those who preach the
holy word. And that no doubt accounts, in your own mind, for the
questions, the challenges, and the out-and-out abuse you no doubt
receive when you post your sermons. It must be because you are making
an impact on the Devil's servants, and we are all writhing and hissing
and generally doing the whole
'possessed-person-in-movie-when-shown-a-crucifix' routine. It does not
occur to you that the WAY in which you preach your message - namely with
hatred and intolerance, and more than a touch of vanity - is naturally
going to get people's backs up, and that the responses you experience
are actually very human.
So in answer to your idle question, THAT is my point.
--
Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Jd" |
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26 Jun 2004 09:57:58 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Midjis wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
That's right. There are only two ways. The right way and the wrong
way. I realize that such a simple truth does not go over too well
in todays Boy George culture of wiggerized faggots where folks only
want to hear things that please their ears.
'Wiggerized faggots'. Truly, the words of the righteous.
Fortunately the Almighty having foreknowldge of these things,
Having intended from the beginning that they should happen...
forewarned us and instructed us WRT these things and enabled some of
us to proclaim these things before the general populace
Whom He also designed...
in order that
they (or some of them) might be able to repent and find the way
i.e. the "right" way.
As opposed to the OTHER way that He has ordained for them.
Nevertheless, God sends His spokesmen (whom He also empowers via His
Spirit) to speak the truth.
Yes - His Special Chosen Ones. Of whom there are a remarkable number
on this very group - and most saying quite different things.
And it's that divine power emanating from
mere mortals that the devil hates so much.
Which is the argument you use to rationalise to yourself the
irritation, abuse and argument your holier-than-thou attitude no doubt
provokes.
And your point?
Oh dear. One of the weakest responses available.
Well, if I must spell it out to you, so be it.
Firstly, your words speak of hatred. "Wiggerised faggots". You do not
show the forgiving nature and the humility that Jesus taught.
What? No ***** has ever tresspassed against me as far as I know so
what should I "forgive" them of?
continued...
Perhaps he, too, felt hatred and revulsion for what he thought was sin, but he
was able to control himself. More likely he saw things rather
differently. And his mission was to save souls, not to demonstrate his
own superiority over them. By his manner, and his demonstrated care for
his Father's people, he DID show his righteousness. His attitude would
attract followers and converts to a God whom they might feel really
cares about them. But why would people want to learn about a god if
they are constantly being told He hates them? Too many people on this
group and elsewhere think that they can achieve righteousness by simply
shouting that they are righteous and denouncing everyone else. It does
not work that way.
The whores and sinners he came in contact with did not tresspass
against him just as the wiggerized faggots I refer to have not
actually tresspassed against me. However, he did tell sinners that
they must become more "right" than all the religious Jews who walked
around in long robes and had tithed to God their whole life....
Matthew 5:20 "For I say unto you, That except your righteousness
shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall
in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." - Jesus
So why shouldn't I denounce wiggerised faggots for the behavior they
partake in which is without doubt - classified as an abomination
before God? Why should I not tell them that their behavior must at
some point be better than that of the religious Christians whom they
detest? Isn't hat exactly what Jesus did?
Secondly, you talk of your God's foreknowledge of such a thing
happening. Well, this raises the eternal riddle of just how omnipotent
your God actually is. If He is all-powerful, as is claimed, then those
who fall away from Him into evil do so because HE allows evil to exist.
Our suffering is part of His grand plan - so His reasons for it had
better be good.
Thirdly, He designed us as humans. He designed those who would
obsessively follow Him, He designed those who would reject Him, and
those who would dither in the middle. We ALL act in accordance with our
nature - and He designed our nature.
Fourthly, the claim that certain people are His divine spokespeople,
blessed with the Holy Spirit, is a claim usually being made by those who
go on to identify themselves as such. Just as in your case. These
people, however, rarely seem to operate in a manner consistent with the
Bible's teaching about God, and rather go about their business in a way
that appears designed to boost their own egos. It is one thing to claim
holiness - it is quite another to actually BE holy.
Finally, you speak of the hatred the Devil has for those who preach the
holy word. And that no doubt accounts, in your own mind, for the
questions, the challenges, and the out-and-out abuse you no doubt
receive when you post your sermons. It must be because you are making
an impact on the Devil's servants, and we are all writhing and hissing
and generally doing the whole
'possessed-person-in-movie-when-shown-a-crucifix' routine. It does not
occur to you that the WAY in which you preach your message - namely with
hatred and intolerance, and more than a touch of vanity - is naturally
going to get people's backs up, and that the responses you experience
are actually very human.
So in answer to your idle question, THAT is my point.
Hmmm... Well, that was a good answer and I'm glad you finally began to
say something rather than to play head games.
But look, most all of these atheists and neo-Sods will say I'm
preaching hatred and intolerance unless I give in and agree with them
in a 100% compromise type fashion. They just will not quit 'till I do
and that's because they are actually the ones who are full of hate and
intolerance and they will have to kill me to stop me from expressing
my views just as they killed Jesus for expressing his. Have you ever
thought of that? I mean seriously?
If Jesus was so nice and tolerant then why did they unmercylessly nail
him to the cross and let him suffocate to death after they had beat
him to a pulp?
But another thing is that in all honesty I just really can't conceive
why folks have so much trouble with this "predestination" thingy.
I mean it's a mystery and totally absurd to me why folks would get so
bumfuzzeled over such a notion, while at the same time they don't
believe/know the God of Israel whom I preach. And this is why.
Because when I was a lost sinful pagan I never gave a crap about
predestination. So why do all these pagans get so upset over it? I'll
tell you why... it's because they are so intolerant that they are
messing with someones elses beliefs whom they should just leave alone,
in order to get them to compromise 100% and force them to accept
something that they don't want to accept.
Look, God knows everything. It just so happens that God designed
things according to his own will and such that his children should
operate by faith (which is not knowing everything) and trust in him.
"Trust" is the sort of thing which is developed between a man and
women who have committed themselves to each other via a life long
commitment known as marriage. And it just so happens that that
institution which has been around forever is one which wiggerised
faggots are trying to demolish.
If you look out your window you will see that there is hardly no TRUST
in the world between anyone.
Let me suggest to you that the reason for that is not what you
perceive as my intolerance and hatred... but instead, the reason is
because folks have turned away from God who has designed us all to
operate by faith and trust, and have become "tolerant" compromisers of
anything and everything.
It has gotten so bad that the wiggerised among us will tolerate
Muslims who behead Americans.... but will not tolerate Americans who
strip Muslim beheaders of their clothes and take a few snapshots.
I say tell them "we will level Mecca and Medina within 24 hours of the
next terrorist stike upon US soil" (to hell with the UN debate
society)
Jd
"And they forsook the Lord, and served Baal and Ashtaroth. And the
anger of the Lord was hot against Israel, and he delivered them into
the hands of spoilers that spoiled them, and he sold them into the
hands of their enemies round about, so that they could not any longer
stand before their enemies." (Judges 2:13-14)
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