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"Jd" |
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29 May 2004 07:40:10 PM |
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How to terrorize terrorists and end this crap, now. |
As you well know, this crap could go on for quite a long time. And
rather than wimpering and whinning about the whole mess endlessly as
talking heads and debate societies like the UN love to do, why not
speed up the whole process and get to the end of it all so we can move
on with our lives?
Here's how and it's really quite simple. One step.
1) Give the terrorists the option of partaking in an honest to God
"Holy War" by the following proclaimation of Congress....
"We the People of the United States of America do hereby proclaim
that with 48 hours of any next strike by Islamic terrorists upon the
free people of America, on American soil, that the Dome of the Rock on
the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the entire city of Mecca, the entire
city of Medina, and up to but not limted to 12 other highly revered
Muslim Holy sites in the Middle East will be totally obliterated from
the face of the earth by whatever means we deem necessary. We hereby
forewarn the peoples of these locations in order that that may flee
for their lives in the event that Islamic terrorists happen to strike
again on American soil"
Constructive comments welcome,
Jd
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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28 Jun 2004 07:11:09 PM |
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In article <Xns9515936B2E133LibriumLibertasEst.32.252.50> Midjis < @ . > writes:
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<Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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<> So why shouldn't I denounce wiggerised faggots for the behavior they
<> partake in which is without doubt - classified as an abomination
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< And lastly, your hatred of what you persist in calling 'wiggerised
< faggots' (although as yet I note you have neglected to address the
<'wiggerised' part) [...]
Hey, I want to know that too. The two concepts seem orthoginal
to me. My theory is that the Markov Chain section of JDay's
brain that's in charge of writing these things simply
has a "gratuitous adjectival slur" slot at that point, and so
he picks one at random.
It's very refreshing to see someone actually debating with JDay
for a change -- the rest of us gave up long ago, due to the
head-snapping non-sequiteurs and general contempt for all things
intellectual you yourself are now receiving by way of thanks for your
efforts. Still, it is nice to see someone willing to debate him
on both scientific AND religious grounds. I'll be interested
in seeing how long you'll continue to think it's worth the
effort.
Your posts are well thought out and well presented. I'm enjoying
them.
-- cary
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| User: "Midjis" |
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29 Jun 2004 09:15:03 AM |
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(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Thank you, I appreciate that. As to how long I will continue to talk to
him, well, I cannot deny that wordiness is one of my faults so I am usually
quite happy to ramble on for weeks. Do not say you were not warned. :)
--
Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Midjis" |
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27 Jun 2004 08:28:48 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
What? No ***** has ever tresspassed against me as far as I know so
what should I "forgive" them of?
If they have never trespassed against you then your hatred of them is all
the more irrational.
The whores and sinners he came in contact with did not tresspass
against him just as the wiggerized faggots I refer to have not
actually tresspassed against me. However, he did tell sinners that
they must become more "right" than all the religious Jews who walked
around in long robes and had tithed to God their whole life....
Yes, he did. And he showed love and compassion for those people who he
believed had strayed - something you have shown no inclination to do.
So why shouldn't I denounce wiggerised faggots for the behavior they
partake in which is without doubt - classified as an abomination
before God?
The key point here is WHAT you denounce. Jesus would have denounced the
sin of these people and shown them a better way. You denounce them.
There is a subtle difference, but you seem either unaware of it or
indifferent to it.
Hmmm... Well, that was a good answer and I'm glad you finally began to
say something rather than to play head games.
'Head games'? What head games would these be?
But look, most all of these atheists and neo-Sods will say I'm
preaching hatred and intolerance unless I give in and agree with them
in a 100% compromise type fashion. They just will not quit 'till I do
and that's because they are actually the ones who are full of hate and
intolerance and they will have to kill me to stop me from expressing
my views just as they killed Jesus for expressing his. Have you ever
thought of that? I mean seriously?
Yes, of course. And there are others on this group who would use the
same justification for their own hatred and intolerance. The argument
being that Jesus would have hated these people as well, and would have
told them so.
That, however, misses the point entirely. Jesus was trying to SAVE
souls, not simply demonstrate how much better than us he was. Yes, he
reviled the sin - but not the sinners. You, however, seem to have missed
that point, and prefer to use your supposed righteousness as an excuse to
attack the people themselves.
If Jesus was so nice and tolerant then why did they unmercylessly nail
him to the cross and let him suffocate to death after they had beat
him to a pulp?
Presumably because they did not like his message - it threatened to
undermine the authority of the established religious order. Or are you
suggesting that he deserved it? If so, then it sort of makes a mockery
of the whole 'lamb to the slaughter' thing that Christianity is supposed
to be built on.
But another thing is that in all honesty I just really can't conceive
why folks have so much trouble with this "predestination" thingy.
I mean it's a mystery and totally absurd to me why folks would get so
bumfuzzeled over such a notion, while at the same time they don't
believe/know the God of Israel whom I preach. And this is why.
Because when I was a lost sinful pagan I never gave a crap about
predestination.
Assume I am a mere pagan, and explain it to me with the understanding you
have gained as a Christian.
So why do all these pagans get so upset over it? I'll
tell you why... it's because they are so intolerant that they are
messing with someones elses beliefs whom they should just leave alone,
in order to get them to compromise 100% and force them to accept
something that they don't want to accept.
That is a very interesting thing to see you preaching. I suggest that we
pagans and atheists and followers of non-Christian religions might well
be delighted to leave you alone, if you would do the same for us. That
means no denouncing anyone as sinners unless you know that THEY are
Christians and CAN therefore sin against YOUR God, no preaching what we
should and should not believe, no demanding that people do this, that or
the other in order to placate the moral standards of YOUR God.
If you can do that for us, then most of us I am sure will be happy to
return the courtesy.
Look, God knows everything. It just so happens that God designed
things according to his own will and such that his children should
operate by faith (which is not knowing everything) and trust in him.
In other words, you must not question. You must accept what you are
told. You must suppress the natural curiosity and the free will with
which your God has apparently blessed you, because He decrees that you
must not use them.
"Trust" is the sort of thing which is developed between a man and
women who have committed themselves to each other via a life long
commitment known as marriage. And it just so happens that that
institution which has been around forever is one which wiggerised
faggots are trying to demolish.
Firstly, 'trust' is nothing to do with marriage. I trust my friends, but
am not married to them. And what percentage of married couples trust
each other? Some, certainly. Most, perhaps. But by no means all. The
first step of your reasoning here depends on a connection that does not
exist.
Secondly, the trust that may be built up within a long lasting
relationship between a man and a woman can be found in many long-term
single-sex relationships - it is not the exclusive domain of heterosexual
partnerships.
Then, of course, your claim that the institution of marriage has been
around forever is clearly farcical. Only under the terms of your own
belief system can that be said to be the case, and then only if your
belief system involves a specific moment of Creation, and THEN only if
you believe that God had already established the institution of marriage
at the moment of that Creation. Further, your claim depends on defining
what IS the 'institution of marriage' - since all God (or the Bible, at
any rate) says is that a man shall cleave unto his wife and they shall
become one flesh. Where did all this "in sickness and in health, till
death us do part" routine come from? Why, from the human imagination, of
course.
And lastly, your hatred of what you persist in calling 'wiggerised
faggots' (although as yet I note you have neglected to address the
'wiggerised' part) is the only thing that leads you believe that anyone
is trying to 'demolish' the concept of heterosexual marriage.
If you look out your window you will see that there is hardly no TRUST
in the world between anyone.
And why should there be, when you demonstrate quite clearly that only
those who conform to your own moral specifications can hope to be
accepted?
It has gotten so bad that the wiggerised among us will tolerate
Muslims who behead Americans.... but will not tolerate Americans who
strip Muslim beheaders of their clothes and take a few snapshots.
'Take a few snapshots'. An interesting turn of phrase, certainly. I
wonder, if that is all that happened, why America felt the need to fight
so strongly in the UN for immunity from prosecution for war crimes? Why
it chooses to pull out of Iraq just at the point its current immunity
lapses? Surely a country so proud of its record in this regard would be
amongst the first to accept such responsibility?
And besides, who tolerates anyone beheading Americans? Not me,
certainly, and not the British, and not the Americans - so who can you be
referring to? Or is it simply that no-one has been stupid enough to do
what you demand and carry out a nuclear strike against the country in
question? No doubt if you can find these people and bring them to
justice then they will be dealt with - but at the moment the coalition
has a lot of commitments, and fortunately nobody anywhere near a firing
key shares your belief that a couple of megatons dropped whimsically on
some temple somewhere is going to solve that particular problem.
I say tell them "we will level Mecca and Medina within 24 hours of the
next terrorist stike upon US soil" (to hell with the UN debate
society)
Yes, so you keep saying - but you have not yet explained how you think
this strategy will benefit anyone beyond indulging your own prejudices.
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Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Jd" |
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27 Jun 2004 09:05:39 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
What? No ***** has ever tresspassed against me as far as I know so
what should I "forgive" them of?
If they have never trespassed against you then your hatred of them is all
the more irrational.
Who said I hated them?
The whores and sinners he came in contact with did not tresspass
against him just as the wiggerized faggots I refer to have not
actually tresspassed against me. However, he did tell sinners that
they must become more "right" than all the religious Jews who walked
around in long robes and had tithed to God their whole life....
Yes, he did. And he showed love and compassion for those people who he
believed had strayed - something you have shown no inclination to do.
Yeah sure. Have you ever actually read the New Testament?
Matthew 23:33 "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye
escape the damnation of hell?" - Jesus
Is that "love and compassion"?
So why shouldn't I denounce wiggerised faggots for the behavior they
partake in which is without doubt - classified as an abomination
before God?
The key point here is WHAT you denounce. Jesus would have denounced the
sin of these people and shown them a better way. You denounce them.
There is a subtle difference, but you seem either unaware of it or
indifferent to it.
Ok. Then you tell them about the "better way". I anxiously await
seeing how you respond after telling all those faggots they must first
repent to find the "better way" and they mock, jeer, and possibly ever
cuss you out.
Go ahead, I'm waiting.
Hmmm... Well, that was a good answer and I'm glad you finally began to
say something rather than to play head games.
'Head games'? What head games would these be?
The ones you were playing just prior to sending me that latest reply
which explained in some detail... your opposition to my style.
Look, I don't mind opposition. In fact I encourage all free speech.
It's just that wimpering waffelers make me angry and I can barely
tolerate them and their headgames.
But look, most all of these atheists and neo-Sods will say I'm
preaching hatred and intolerance unless I give in and agree with them
in a 100% compromise type fashion. They just will not quit 'till I do
and that's because they are actually the ones who are full of hate and
intolerance and they will have to kill me to stop me from expressing
my views just as they killed Jesus for expressing his. Have you ever
thought of that? I mean seriously?
Yes, of course. And there are others on this group who would use the
same justification for their own hatred and intolerance. The argument
being that Jesus would have hated these people as well, and would have
told them so.
That, however, misses the point entirely. Jesus was trying to SAVE
souls, not simply demonstrate how much better than us he was. Yes, he
reviled the sin - but not the sinners. You, however, seem to have missed
that point, and prefer to use your supposed righteousness as an excuse to
attack the people themselves.
Well, that's your opinion and you're welcome to be just as judgemental
as you want to be against me and my opinion. But it won't do you any
good as far as convincing me to enter into some sort of compromise WRT
neo-Sods, xChristians, false prophets, the sons of the devil, and all
their various doctrines and/or philosophies.
Gotta go. Bye.
Jd
"I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no
strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord,
that I am God." (Isaiah 43:12)
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28 Jun 2004 02:12:27 PM |
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In article <Xns95167EABB3BCDLibriumLibertasEst.32.252.50> writes:
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<Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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<> Who said I hated them?
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<No-one, JD, more clearly than you.
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<> Yeah sure. Have you ever actually read the New Testament?
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<> Matthew 23:33 "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye
<> escape the damnation of hell?" - Jesus
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<> Is that "love and compassion"?
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<Yes. But abused, as always, by those who want to use the Bible for their
<own advantage or to justify their own bad attitudes. Consider it "Pastor
<Winter Syndrome". Jesus calls people names and therefore you feel you
<are able to be abusive and STILL call yourself righteous. You are wrong,
<for two reasons:
Pastor Steve Winter?
Man, you really have been down in the trenches, haven't you?
Wow.
Contending with JDay is going to feel like midget wrestling after that.
-- cary
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| User: "Midjis" |
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28 Jun 2004 06:26:27 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Who said I hated them?
No-one, JD, more clearly than you.
Yeah sure. Have you ever actually read the New Testament?
Yes.
Matthew 23:33 "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye
escape the damnation of hell?" - Jesus
Is that "love and compassion"?
Yes. But abused, as always, by those who want to use the Bible for their
own advantage or to justify their own bad attitudes. Consider it "Pastor
Winter Syndrome". Jesus calls people names and therefore you feel you
are able to be abusive and STILL call yourself righteous. You are wrong,
for two reasons:
One, as I said, Jesus was attacking their sin - if you read the chapter
again in full you will see that it is a warning, and ends with advice.
Jesus was trying to force a message across. You, however, merely slag
off those people you do not like. Do you think Jesus' calling someone a
hypocrite was meant in the same vein as your beloved "wiggerised *****"?
And secondly, of course, according to Christian tradition Jesus was the
Son of God. That pretty much gives him the RIGHT to judge - although
even so in the New Testament he rarely does so, preferring to warn. The
judging will supposedly come later. But you - you are a mere human, and
as sinful as the rest of us. You have no such authority.
Ok. Then you tell them about the "better way". I anxiously await
seeing how you respond after telling all those faggots they must first
repent to find the "better way" and they mock, jeer, and possibly ever
cuss you out.
Go ahead, I'm waiting.
You can wait. Remember, I am not a Christian so the way they have chosen
to live does not offend me to begin with. If you expect me to do your
work for you you will be waiting a long time. But as I said, the point
is that you detest the sinner, rather than the sin, because you do not
truly care for these people. You write them off - just as you will
believe that Jesus wrote people off if you only read fragments of what he
said.
You refuse to try to convince these people because you know that they
will mock you and jeer at you - and they will, of course. The reason
they will is because they do not necessarily share your belief in your
God, or in the demands you think He makes, and ONLY belief in your God
justifies the moral code you are trying to impose on others.
It is a shame you have declined to answer on the subject of us pagans and
atheists and non-Christians 'leaving Christians alone' - because that
principle goes straight to the heart of this.
'Head games'? What head games would these be?
The ones you were playing just prior to sending me that latest reply
which explained in some detail... your opposition to my style.
Ah - you mean when I challenged your 'solution' to terrorism? Head games
indeed. On that point, I notice you have still no replied to my question
there.
Look, I don't mind opposition. In fact I encourage all free speech.
It's just that wimpering waffelers make me angry and I can barely
tolerate them and their headgames.
Then why tolerate them? Say what you think and let us all see your true
colours.
Well, that's your opinion and you're welcome to be just as judgemental
as you want to be against me and my opinion.
I am, yes.
But it won't do you any
good as far as convincing me to enter into some sort of compromise WRT
neo-Sods, xChristians, false prophets, the sons of the devil, and all
their various doctrines and/or philosophies.
Gotta go. Bye.
And you did not even stay around to address why you felt detonating
nuclear weapons at Muslim religious sites would be of any value beyond
letting you indulge your own savagery.
Coward.
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Midjis
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ama semper quisquis noces
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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28 Jun 2004 01:14:34 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:05:39 -0500, Jd wrote:
Yeah sure. Have you ever actually read the New Testament?
Only for content.
Matthew 23:33 "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye
escape the damnation of hell?" - Jesus
Is that "love and compassion"?
No; that's the Deep South in the Summer.
++ Gray //
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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22 Jun 2004 10:35:24 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Truth of the matter is that many of the young folks, yippies, and
social elites in Americas culture are deeply (and perhaps
unknowingly... because of deception) involved in a full scale
rebellion against the Almighty.
Fortunately the Almighty having foreknowldge of these things,
forewarned us and instructed us WRT these things and enabled some of
us to proclaim these things before the general populace in order that
they (or some of them) might be able to repent and find the way i.e.
the "right" way.
Nope. By your "religion", they either were predestined to revolt, and
to not be capable of repenting, or they were predestined to repent
whether they were proclaimed to or not. Predestination is neat in
that it eliminates all personal responsibility and choice, and all
need for God to have a "plan". He just says "let it be" and everyone
goes to their respective fates - no intricate cause is needed.
Indeed, it seems rather pointless for Him to have wasted time on
creating the universe, since He could have put us all into Heaven or
Hell directly with whatever memories of having done or not done
various sins built into our totally predestined souls.
Nevertheless, God sends His spokesmen (whom He also empowers via His
Spirit) to speak the truth.
The Prince of Liars also sends his spokesmen (whom he empowers with
skill at deception, and may deceive into thinking that they are
working for the other Guy) to speak the lies that he wishes people to
believe.
And it's that divine power emanating from mere mortals that the devil hates so much.
And it's that infernal hubris emanating from deceived mortals that God
hates so much.
lojbab
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lojbab
Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
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| User: "Jd" |
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25 Jun 2004 10:54:30 PM |
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Bob LeChevalier wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Truth of the matter is that many of the young folks, yippies, and
social elites in Americas culture are deeply (and perhaps
unknowingly... because of deception) involved in a full scale
rebellion against the Almighty.
Fortunately the Almighty having foreknowldge of these things,
forewarned us and instructed us WRT these things and enabled some of
us to proclaim these things before the general populace in order that
they (or some of them) might be able to repent and find the way i.e.
the "right" way.
Nope. By your "religion", they either were predestined to revolt, and
to not be capable of repenting, or they were predestined to repent
whether they were proclaimed to or not. Predestination is neat in
that it eliminates all personal responsibility and choice, and all
need for God to have a "plan". He just says "let it be" and everyone
goes to their respective fates - no intricate cause is needed.
Indeed, it seems rather pointless for Him to have wasted time on
creating the universe, since He could have put us all into Heaven or
Hell directly with whatever memories of having done or not done
various sins built into our totally predestined souls.
Nope. God designed things so that we must operate by faith. He likes
to see us operate\live by faith.
Even atheist operate by faith.
So the predestined use either misguided faith, negative faith, or the
real thing.
Jd
Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for
he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a
rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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22 Jun 2004 01:16:32 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:35:24 -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote
(in article <uljgd0h3u5u07b6ai0dsdsndg2pst22bj0@4ax.com>):
Nope. By your "religion", they either were predestined to revolt, and
to not be capable of repenting, or they were predestined to repent
whether they were proclaimed to or not. Predestination is neat in
that it eliminates all personal responsibility and choice, and all
need for God to have a "plan". He just says "let it be" and everyone
goes to their respective fates - no intricate cause is needed.
Indeed, it seems rather pointless for Him to have wasted time on
creating the universe, since He could have put us all into Heaven or
Hell directly with whatever memories of having done or not done
various sins built into our totally predestined souls.
Oh, that.
Comedy shows almost always prevail over well-done (or rare)
serious works of art.
That's why God et al have a bigger budget than that little
independent guy who always seems to be getting bad press.
Gray Shockley
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dontchurknow
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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17 Jun 2004 10:17:11 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Jd wrote:
I hunger and thirst for the knowledge of the difference between right
and wrong almost to the point of being obsessed. Consequently, I
always have plenty to eat and drink to fill my ravenous appetite.
I certainly hope you get help for your affliction.
If you want to investigate the science of good and evil, I suggest a book
by that title.
http://snipurl.com/75yk
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| User: "Jd" |
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22 Jun 2004 12:30:22 AM |
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Carol Lee Smith wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Jd wrote:
I hunger and thirst for the knowledge of the difference between right
and wrong almost to the point of being obsessed. Consequently, I
always have plenty to eat and drink to fill my ravenous appetite.
I certainly hope you get help for your affliction.
If you want to investigate the science of good and evil, I suggest a book
by that title.
http://snipurl.com/75yk
tell me about it.
Jd
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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18 Jun 2004 12:00:06 PM |
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In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.1040617221513.3824J-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> writes:
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<On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Jd wrote:
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<> I hunger and thirst for the knowledge of the difference between right
<> and wrong almost to the point of being obsessed. Consequently, I
<> always have plenty to eat and drink to fill my ravenous appetite.
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<I certainly hope you get help for your affliction.
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<If you want to investigate the science of good and evil, I suggest a book
<by that title.
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<http://snipurl.com/75yk
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And then there's also "theodicy", a word I just learned.
Did you read the Shermer book yet, and if so, how is it?
-- cary
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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12 Jun 2004 09:05:38 PM |
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:53:11 -0500, Jd wrote:
Ummm...... well obviously one of the things on their agenda would be
to cast doubt on the Bible which shows that marriage between a man and
a woman is holy
You mean like with Job and Saul and David and all those guys?
and that sodomy is an abomibation before God
Oops!
(which means that homo marriage is outa the question).
According to my trusty _American Heritage Dictionary_:
Sodomy is:
1. Anal copulation of one male with another.
2. Anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex.
That "homo marriage" that "was outa the question" may well become
part of the answer.
3. Copulation with an animal.
I'll take #2, Oral Opposite-Sex, for $2.50, please.
Gray Shockley
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"Swinehood hath no remedy." - Sidney Lanier
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| Title: Re: How to terrorize terrorists and end this crap, now. |
30 May 2004 11:05:58 AM |
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On Sun, 30 May 2004 00:40:10 GMT, Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
As you well know, this crap could go on for quite a long time. And
rather than wimpering and whinning about the whole mess endlessly as
talking heads and debate societies like the UN love to do, why not
speed up the whole process and get to the end of it all so we can move
on with our lives?
The best way to stop terrorism is to remove the Jews from ruling
America.
"Knowing who did the terrorism of September 11 is important, but why
they did
it is even more important to us.
Yet, strangely, there has been little discussion in the mass media on
why
the attack occurred. Politicians and media personalities have given us
completely inadequate explanations why a couple of dozen young men
would
blow themselves up to get at us. In fact, they have told us absurd
lies to
keep Americans from understanding the real reason for the attacks.
We have been told that the attackers were simply crazy, cowardly men
who
committed a quote "unprovoked attack." Media and government spokesmen
repeatedly assured us that these attacks had "nothing to do with
America's
support of Israel." The official view, as expressed by the President
to the
U.S. Congress, was that the terrorists attacked us because they hate
our
freedom! Here is an excerpt of his remarks before Congress
"Americans are asking, "Why do they hate us?"
"They hate what they see right here in this chamber: a democratically
elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our
freedoms."
I am not trying to be disrespectful, but what he said is so ridiculous
that
even this intellectually challenged President cannot really believe
it. Does
Bush really think that a bunch of young men would give up their
families,
their homes, and immolate themselves in a huge ball of fire simply
because
they hate our democracy! Right on Mr. President! Next week, will we
will
hear about Islamic kamikazes crashing planes into Iceland, the oldest
enduring democracy on earth.
Mr. Bush is asking America to support a massive war over the next ten
years.
We are being asked to support a massive conflict whose huge costs
could well
bankrupt America and cause the loss of great numbers of American
lives.
Before we can make such a crucial decision, we deserve to have the
whole truth concerning this cataclysmic event.
Of course, Mr. Bush did not tell us the truth; he simply repeated the
Big
Lie put out by the American mass media.
Saying that these acts were born out of hatred for freedom is a
calculated
lie to divert us from associating this disaster with our support for
Israel.
You see, associating the attack with our Israeli policy would be bad
public
relations for Israel and the Jewish Lobby. The last thing they want is
for
the American people to realize that our unconditional support of
Israel has
directly led to this disaster.
If the American people clearly understand that fact, people might
begin to
ask a similar question to the one asked by Leslie Stahl, "Is our
support of
Israel really worth it?"
To keep people from asking that obvious question, the media made up
the Big
Lie that the men of October 11 were simply crazy, cowardly people who
hated
freedom and democracy!
The real reason for the attack
Even the date the terrorists chose for this attack shows their true
motivation.
The attack occurred on September 11. That is the anniversary of the
League
of Nations proclaiming in Palestine the British Mandate in 1922. The
date
represents the first physical step toward the implementation of the
Balfour
Declaration and the establishment of Israel.
Why has the mass media kept this important fact from the American
people?
Frankly, this fact has been suppressed because the American media are
thoroughly dominated by Jews. Many Americans suspect that Jews have
disproportionate influence in the press, but their actual power is
more than
most people imagine. If you want documented proof of their enormous
media
power, just go to my web page, www.davidduke.com and read the "Who
Runs the
Media?" chapter from my book, My Awakening. (Located at
http://www.davidduke.com/awakening/chapter19_01.html)
Just as Jewish Israel-Firsters dominate the mass media, so the Israeli
Lobby
afflicts Congress and the President. It should anger every American to
think
that the most powerful lobby in Congress is in the service of a
foreign
nation. Yet, the immense power of the Jewish Lobby is a proven fact,
and
nobody on Capitol Hill will dare defy this all-powerful lobby. Even
one of
the most powerful U.S. Senators in American history, William
Fulbright,
bluntly said on CBS's Face the Nation, that, "Israel controls the U.S.
Senate."
Recently, a Hebrew Israeli radio station, Kol Yisrael, on October 3rd
reported that during an argument in an Israeli cabinet meeting, Shimon
Peres
warned Prime Minister Ariel Sharon that unless he would heed American
requests for a cease fire with the Palestinians, he could cause
America to
turn against Israel. In a fit of anger, Sharon responded to Peres:
"Every time we do something, you tell me America will do this and will
do
that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about
American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America,
and the
Americans know it." (2)
The media bosses and the Israel-bought politicians know the real
reasons
behind this terrorism. They have read the interviews of Osama Bin
Laden. He
and almost every other Islamic opponent of America has put support for
Israel at the top of their top ten reasons for hating America. Bin
Laden and
countless millions in the Muslim world regard the attacks on Lebanon,
on
Iraq, on Libya, on Iran, on Afghanistan and on Sudan as a direct
result of
Israel's control over America.
They point out that the many Israeli massacres of Palestinians, the
ongoing
torture of thousands of prisoners, the use of assassination of
political
enemies, the bombing of refugee camps, and the expansive wars launched
by
Israeli's against their Arab neighbors; that all these Israeli crimes
are
completely dependent on unconditional American aid. They also see the
deaths
of the 500,000 Iraqi children, as admitted by our former Jewish
Secretary of
State, as a direct result of Jewish control of America.
The American people, who are under the bombardment of a biased
multimedia,
might not realize the Jewish control of American foreign policy, but
the
Palestinians and their allies such as Bin Laden, all understand it;
and they
hate us for it.
In fact, the same mass media that are giving out the Big Lie that the
terrorist motivation is "hate for freedom," are clearly aware of Bin
Laden's
real motivations.
I can easily prove the true motivation of bin Laden and I can prove
the
media has known the truth all along. In May of 1998 reporter John
Miller of
ABC interviewed Bin Laden. Bin Laden talks about why he seeks to
attack
America. You can find it on the ABC and the PBS web sites. Here are
excerpts
of bin Laden's own words.
"For over half a century, Muslims in Palestine have been slaughtered
and
assaulted and robbed of their honor and of their property. Their
houses have
been blasted, their crops destroyed.
"This is my message to the American people: to look for a serious
government
that looks out for their interests and does not attack other people's
lands,
or other people's honor. And my word to American journalists is not to
ask
why we did that but ask what their government has done that forced us
to
defend ourselves."
"So we tell the Americans as people, and we tell the mothers of
soldiers and
American mothers in general that if they value their lives and the
lives of
their children, to find a patriotic government that will look after
their
interests and not the interests of the Jews."
I say to them that they have put themselves at the mercy of a disloyal
government, and this is most evident in Clinton's administration. We
believe
that this administration represents Israel inside America. Take the
sensitive ministries such as the Secretary of State and the Secretary
of
Defense and the CIA, you will find that the Jews have the upper hand
in
them. They make use of America to further their plans for the world.
In the interview, bin Laden never said one word about opposing
democratic
principles, nor has he ever done so in his lifetime. So, now we know
Laden's
true motivation. He attacked us not because he "hates democracy", but
because he thinks Israel controls and uses America to attack his
people."
David Duke
(1) THE SUNDAY MAIL (2001) Sept. 16
(2) Israeli Hebrew radio, Col Yisrael Wednesday
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| Title: Re: How to terrorize terrorists and end this crap, now. |
02 Jun 2004 09:41:02 PM |
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Dear neptune3,
I don't care whether Jews are running America or not since:
1) I've already discovered from reading the Bible that God knows how
to handle Jews.
2) I've already discovered from watching TV that Jews know how to
handle Islamic Jihadists.
3) Any Jews who may be running America would like my latest plan
against terrorists.
neptune3 wrote:
On Sun, 30 May 2004 00:40:10 GMT, Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
As you well know, this crap could go on for quite a long time. And
rather than wimpering and whinning about the whole mess endlessly as
talking heads and debate societies like the UN love to do, why not
speed up the whole process and get to the end of it all so we can move
on with our lives?
The best way to stop terrorism is to remove the Jews from ruling
America.
"Knowing who did the terrorism of September 11 is important, but why
they did
it is even more important to us.
Yet, strangely, there has been little discussion in the mass media on
why
the attack occurred. Politicians and media personalities have given us
completely inadequate explanations why a couple of dozen young men
would
blow themselves up to get at us. In fact, they have told us absurd
lies to
keep Americans from understanding the real reason for the attacks.
We have been told that the attackers were simply crazy, cowardly men
who
committed a quote "unprovoked attack." Media and government spokesmen
repeatedly assured us that these attacks had "nothing to do with
America's
support of Israel." The official view, as expressed by the President
to the
U.S. Congress, was that the terrorists attacked us because they hate
our
freedom! Here is an excerpt of his remarks before Congress
"Americans are asking, "Why do they hate us?"
"They hate what they see right here in this chamber: a democratically
elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our
freedoms."
I am not trying to be disrespectful, but what he said is so ridiculous
that
even this intellectually challenged President cannot really believe
it. Does
Bush really think that a bunch of young men would give up their
families,
their homes, and immolate themselves in a huge ball of fire simply
because
they hate our democracy! Right on Mr. President! Next week, will we
will
hear about Islamic kamikazes crashing planes into Iceland, the oldest
enduring democracy on earth.
Mr. Bush is asking America to support a massive war over the next ten
years.
We are being asked to support a massive conflict whose huge costs
could well
bankrupt America and cause the loss of great numbers of American
lives.
Before we can make such a crucial decision, we deserve to have the
whole truth concerning this cataclysmic event.
Of course, Mr. Bush did not tell us the truth; he simply repeated the
Big
Lie put out by the American mass media.
Saying that these acts were born out of hatred for freedom is a
calculated
lie to divert us from associating this disaster with our support for
Israel.
You see, associating the attack with our Israeli policy would be bad
public
relations for Israel and the Jewish Lobby. The last thing they want is
for
the American people to realize that our unconditional support of
Israel has
directly led to this disaster.
If the American people clearly understand that fact, people might
begin to
ask a similar question to the one asked by Leslie Stahl, "Is our
support of
Israel really worth it?"
To keep people from asking that obvious question, the media made up
the Big
Lie that the men of October 11 were simply crazy, cowardly people who
hated
freedom and democracy!
The real reason for the attack
Even the date the terrorists chose for this attack shows their true
motivation.
The attack occurred on September 11. That is the anniversary of the
League
of Nations proclaiming in Palestine the British Mandate in 1922. The
date
represents the first physical step toward the implementation of the
Balfour
Declaration and the establishment of Israel.
Why has the mass media kept this important fact from the American
people?
Frankly, this fact has been suppressed because the American media are
thoroughly dominated by Jews. Many Americans suspect that Jews have
disproportionate influence in the press, but their actual power is
more than
most people imagine. If you want documented proof of their enormous
media
power, just go to my web page, www.davidduke.com and read the "Who
Runs the
Media?" chapter from my book, My Awakening. (Located at
http://www.davidduke.com/awakening/chapter19_01.html)
Just as Jewish Israel-Firsters dominate the mass media, so the Israeli
Lobby
afflicts Congress and the President. It should anger every American to
think
that the most powerful lobby in Congress is in the service of a
foreign
nation. Yet, the immense power of the Jewish Lobby is a proven fact,
and
nobody on Capitol Hill will dare defy this all-powerful lobby. Even
one of
the most powerful U.S. Senators in American history, William
Fulbright,
bluntly said on CBS's Face the Nation, that, "Israel controls the U.S.
Senate."
Recently, a Hebrew Israeli radio station, Kol Yisrael, on October 3rd
reported that during an argument in an Israeli cabinet meeting, Shimon
Peres
warned Prime Minister Ariel Sharon that unless he would heed American
requests for a cease fire with the Palestinians, he could cause
America to
turn against Israel. In a fit of anger, Sharon responded to Peres:
"Every time we do something, you tell me America will do this and will
do
that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about
American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America,
and the
Americans know it." (2)
The media bosses and the Israel-bought politicians know the real
reasons
behind this terrorism. They have read the interviews of Osama Bin
Laden. He
and almost every other Islamic opponent of America has put support for
Israel at the top of their top ten reasons for hating America. Bin
Laden and
countless millions in the Muslim world regard the attacks on Lebanon,
on
Iraq, on Libya, on Iran, on Afghanistan and on Sudan as a direct
result of
Israel's control over America.
They point out that the many Israeli massacres of Palestinians, the
ongoing
torture of thousands of prisoners, the use of assassination of
political
enemies, the bombing of refugee camps, and the expansive wars launched
by
Israeli's against their Arab neighbors; that all these Israeli crimes
are
completely dependent on unconditional American aid. They also see the
deaths
of the 500,000 Iraqi children, as admitted by our former Jewish
Secretary of
State, as a direct result of Jewish control of America.
The American people, who are under the bombardment of a biased
multimedia,
might not realize the Jewish control of American foreign policy, but
the
Palestinians and their allies such as Bin Laden, all understand it;
and they
hate us for it.
In fact, the same mass media that are giving out the Big Lie that the
terrorist motivation is "hate for freedom," are clearly aware of Bin
Laden's
real motivations.
I can easily prove the true motivation of bin Laden and I can prove
the
media has known the truth all along. In May of 1998 reporter John
Miller of
ABC interviewed Bin Laden. Bin Laden talks about why he seeks to
attack
America. You can find it on the ABC and the PBS web sites. Here are
excerpts
of bin Laden's own words.
"For over half a century, Muslims in Palestine have been slaughtered
and
assaulted and robbed of their honor and of their property. Their
houses have
been blasted, their crops destroyed.
"This is my message to the American people: to look for a serious
government
that looks out for their interests and does not attack other people's
lands,
or other people's honor. And my word to American journalists is not to
ask
why we did that but ask what their government has done that forced us
to
defend ourselves."
"So we tell the Americans as people, and we tell the mothers of
soldiers and
American mothers in general that if they value their lives and the
lives of
their children, to find a patriotic government that will look after
their
interests and not the interests of the Jews."
I say to them that they have put themselves at the mercy of a disloyal
government, and this is most evident in Clinton's administration. We
believe
that this administration represents Israel inside America. Take the
sensitive ministries such as the Secretary of State and the Secretary
of
Defense and the CIA, you will find that the Jews have the upper hand
in
them. They make use of America to further their plans for the world.
In the interview, bin Laden never said one word about opposing
democratic
principles, nor has he ever done so in his lifetime. So, now we know
Laden's
true motivation. He attacked us not because he "hates democracy", but
because he thinks Israel controls and uses America to attack his
people."
David Duke
(1) THE SUNDAY MAIL (2001) Sept. 16
(2) Israeli Hebrew radio, Col Yisrael Wednesday
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03 Jun 2004 05:37:08 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 02:41:02 GMT, Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Dear neptune3,
I don't care whether Jews are running America or not since:
1) I've already discovered from reading the Bible that God knows how
to handle Jews.
Jews claim to be the people of the Old Testament (the Israelites)
because they have the Jewish religion. This proves nothing. People
change their religion. The Edomites and the Khazars became Jewish but
they are not Israelites by race:
Encyclopedia Americana 1956
"HYRCANUS...John....a Jewish high priest...he next overcame the
Idumaeans and obliged them to submit to Judaism."
"Idumaean" is Greek for Edomite. The Edomites became Jews in 100
BC and are known as Jews today.
And the New Jewish Encyclopedia, edited by David Bridger, PH.D in
association with Samual Wolk, Rabbi, J.S.D, copyright 1962, Published
by Behrman House, inc.,1261 Broadway, New York 1, N.Y., Library of
Congress Catalog Card Number: 62-17079, says on page 266:
"Bulan, the pagan ruler of the Khazars, in his desire to embrace the
'true religion' had summoned representatives of Christian, Moslem, and
Jewish faiths to expound their views on the superiority of their
respective religions. Bulan thus became convinced of the truth of the
Jewish faith, and he, as well as many of his noblemen, embraced
Judaism, which later spread widely among the common people of the
Khazar kingdom."
The Edomites and the Khazars became Jews and the real Israelites
changed their religion and became Christians.
Christ said in Mathew 15:24 "I am not sent but unto the lost
sheep of the house of Israel."
He came for the chosen race and sheep are a symbol for the chosen
race, but this is what He said to the Jews:
John 10:26+27 "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as
I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they
follow me"
This means the real Israelites converted to Christianity. This
explains why Europe became known as Christendom.
The Israelites were direct descendants of Adam, who was the
first White man. The Hebrew word "adam" describes a White man. We are
not the color white like milk. We are a light skinned race and the
light skin allows blood, the color red to show in the cheeks. This is
the definition of the word "adam" in Strong's Concordance:
"to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy:- be
(dyed, made) red (ruddy)."
This can only be describing a White man. Look at people today
and see which ones have rosy red cheeks. They are light skinned White
people. The Israelites were White.
The Bible says David was ruddy. This is the definition of the
Hebrew word "ruddy":
"reddish (of the hair or of the complexion):-red, ruddy."
David had rosy cheeks (or red hair) and did not look like a
typical Jew.
The Bible says the Israelites would be a blessing to the world.
It is the White race that invented all the great things and advanced
civilization on the earth.
The Bible tells us that the Jews are imposters.
Revelation 2:9 "I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews,
and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
Many verses tell us that Jews are our enemies. Here is one
example:
John 7:1 "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee; for he would
not walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him."
The Jews have been expelled from every Christian nation in
Europe at one time or another. Many people know that they are enemies
of White civilization. But not everyone knows the reason. It is
because they are not the chosen race and they hate those who really
are the chosen race.
2) I've already discovered from watching TV that Jews know how to
handle Islamic Jihadists.
Imagine if Iraqi-American supporters of Saddam Hussein had control of
the
American media. Suppose they controlled the national television
networks and
were a majority of the owners, producers, and writers of television
entertainment and news. TV is an irresistible power that reaches into
every
American home - the primary source by which most Americans learn about
the
world. Consider the dangers of that enormous power dominated by a
tightly
knit, Iraqi, Muslim minority that supported the Hussein regime.
If the non-television media were still free, they undoubtedly would
treat
Iraqi media domination as a great danger to America. Every non-Iraqi
source
of media would proclaim that such control threatens our freedoms.
Congress
would likely draft legislation to break up the Iraqi stranglehold on
television. Patriots would remind Americans that if we were not free
to
obtain unbiased news, documentaries, and programming, democracy could
not
work. The power of TV controlled by one point of view would erode the
foundation of all our freedoms: the freedom of speech. Pundits would
be
outraged that non-Americans, people with allegiance to a foreign
power, had
control over the American mind.
Taking the analogy further, imagine if the rest of the media were also
in
Iraqi hands. Suppose that the three major news magazines, Time,
Newsweek,
and U.S. News and World Report were run by Iraqis, that the three most
influential American newspapers, The New York Times, The Wall Street
Journal, and The Washington Post - as well as a majority of the
remaining
major newspapers and magazines - were controlled by Iraqis. Imagine
that
Muslim Iraqis dominated the Hollywood movie industry as well as book
publishing and even book distribution. Picture the Iraqis as also
holding
immense wealth in business and banking, as thoroughly entrenched in
entertainment and Hollywood, academia, the judiciary, and the
government. On
top of all this, suppose that supporters of Saddam Hussein had the
most
powerful lobby in Washington and were responsible for the bulk of the
fundraising of both the Democratic and Republican parties. Suppose a
dedicated Iraqi was head of the National Security Council at the White
House. Would such a situation be dangerous for America?
If Americans awoke one morning and found Arabic names scrawled all
over
their TV and movie credits, on their magazine and newspaper mastheads
and in
the pages of their books, millions would say, "We've been taken over!"
Viewers would suspect the motives of everything they see on television
and
read in newspapers, magazines, and books. They would be especially
wary of
information about issues related to Iraqis, Saddam Hussein, Islam, and
the
Middle East conflict. In very short order, many Americans would cry
out in
the fashion of Howard Beale: "I am mad as hell, and I am not going to
take
it anymore!"
http://theunjustmedia.com/Media/Who%20Runs%20the%20Media.htm
http://theunjustmedia.com/Homepage%20Media.htm
http://www.adl.org/anti_semitism_arab/
3) Any Jews who may be running America would like my latest plan
against terrorists.
Terrorism is caused by Jews running America.
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.altermedia.info/ www.nsm88.com
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03 Jun 2004 05:53:20 PM |
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In article <f9f1cec4c03b71d99629fab64f67d860@news.secureusenet.com> neptune3 <nptn3@hotmail.com> writes:
<On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 02:41:02 GMT, Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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<>Dear neptune3,
{...}
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< The Jews have been expelled from every Christian nation in
<Europe at one time or another. Many people know that they are enemies
<of White civilization. But not everyone knows the reason. It is
<because they are not the chosen race and they hate those who really
<are the chosen race.
And yet none of these countries any longer have such a policy. Why do
you suppose this is?
-- cary
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| User: "neptune3" |
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03 Jun 2004 08:29:59 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 22:53:20 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
And yet none of these countries any longer have such a policy. Why do
you suppose this is?
TV and movies. The Jews couldn't brainwash people as effectively
before TV and movies.
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.altermedia.info/ www.nsm88.com
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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03 Jun 2004 12:06:29 AM |
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On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:41:02 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <4ckub0lej7afj7nhs27k61lc0g1skvfob7@4ax.com>):
Dear neptune3,
I don't care whether Jews are running America or not since:
1) I've already discovered from reading the Bible that God knows how
to handle Jews.
2) I've already discovered from watching TV that Jews know how to
handle Islamic Jihadists.
3) Any Jews who may be running America would like my latest plan
against terrorists.
Remember, if you walk a mile in another person's shoes, you are
not only a mile from the other person but you have her/his shoes.
++ Gray //
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| User: "Jd" |
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03 Jun 2004 07:39:56 PM |
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Gray Shockley wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:41:02 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <4ckub0lej7afj7nhs27k61lc0g1skvfob7@4ax.com>):
Dear neptune3,
I don't care whether Jews are running America or not since:
1) I've already discovered from reading the Bible that God knows how
to handle Jews.
2) I've already discovered from watching TV that Jews know how to
handle Islamic Jihadists.
3) Any Jews who may be running America would like my latest plan
against terrorists.
Remember, if you walk a mile in another person's shoes, you are
not only a mile from the other person but you have her/his shoes.
++ Gray //
Unless he/she is walking beside me wearing my shoes.
Jd
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03 Jun 2004 10:18:22 PM |
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In article <4o01c0pievn22a0hlhu8legsaj1vlrupdc@4ax.com> Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<Gray Shockley wrote:
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<>On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:41:02 -0500, Jd wrote
<>(in article <4ckub0lej7afj7nhs27k61lc0g1skvfob7@4ax.com>):
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<>> Dear neptune3,
<>>
<>> I don't care whether Jews are running America or not since:
<>>
<>> 1) I've already discovered from reading the Bible that God knows how
<>> to handle Jews.
<>>
<>> 2) I've already discovered from watching TV that Jews know how to
<>> handle Islamic Jihadists.
<>>
<>> 3) Any Jews who may be running America would like my latest plan
<>> against terrorists.
<>
<>
<>Remember, if you walk a mile in another person's shoes, you are
<>not only a mile from the other person but you have her/his shoes.
<>
<> ++ Gray //
<
<Unless he/she is walking beside me wearing my shoes.
<
Actually, that's a pretty good reply...
-- cary
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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03 Jun 2004 11:41:41 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 22:18:22 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <c9oplu$1jl$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):
In article <4o01c0pievn22a0hlhu8legsaj1vlrupdc@4ax.com> Jd
<Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<Gray Shockley wrote:
<
<>On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:41:02 -0500, Jd wrote
<>(in article <4ckub0lej7afj7nhs27k61lc0g1skvfob7@4ax.com>):
<>
<>> Dear neptune3,
<>>
<>> I don't care whether Jews are running America or not since:
<>>
<>> 1) I've already discovered from reading the Bible that God knows how
<>> to handle Jews.
<>>
<>> 2) I've already discovered from watching TV that Jews know how to
<>> handle Islamic Jihadists.
<>>
<>> 3) Any Jews who may be running America would like my latest plan
<>> against terrorists.
<>
<>
<>Remember, if you walk a mile in another person's shoes, you are
<>not only a mile from the other person but you have her/his shoes.
<>
<> ++ Gray //
<
<Unless he/she is walking beside me wearing my shoes.
<
Actually, that's a pretty good reply...
-- cary
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Subject: An inspirational allegory
To: All
From:
Date: 7/2/94 2:18:31 AM
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Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Path: uunet!world!pie
From: (Carl Muckenhoupt)
Subject: An inspirational allegory
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 07:18:31 GMT
I dreamed that I was walking down the beach with the Goddess.
And I looked back and saw footprints in the sand.
But sometimes there were two pairs of footprints, and sometimes
there was only one. And the times when there was only one pair
of footprints, those were my times of greatest trouble.
So I asked the Goddess, "Why, in my greatest need, did you
abandon me?"
She replied, "I never left you. Those were the times when we
both hopped on one foot." And lo, I was really embarassed for
bothering Her with such a stupid question.
Carl Muckenhoupt, without honorary
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* Origin: Usenet:The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
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07 Jun 2004 11:27:50 PM |
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Gray Shockley wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 22:18:22 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <c9oplu$1jl$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):
In article <4o01c0pievn22a0hlhu8legsaj1vlrupdc@4ax.com> Jd
<Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<Gray Shockley wrote:
<
<>On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:41:02 -0500, Jd wrote
<>(in article <4ckub0lej7afj7nhs27k61lc0g1skvfob7@4ax.com>):
<>
<>> Dear neptune3,
<>>
<>> I don't care whether Jews are running America or not since:
<>>
<>> 1) I've already discovered from reading the Bible that God knows how
<>> to handle Jews.
<>>
<>> 2) I've already discovered from watching TV that Jews know how to
<>> handle Islamic Jihadists.
<>>
<>> 3) Any Jews who may be running America would like my latest plan
<>> against terrorists.
<>
<>
<>Remember, if you walk a mile in another person's shoes, you are
<>not only a mile from the other person but you have her/his shoes.
<>
<> ++ Gray //
<
<Unless he/she is walking beside me wearing my shoes.
<
Actually, that's a pretty good reply...
-- cary
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Subject: An inspirational allegory
To: All
From:
Date: 7/2/94 2:18:31 AM
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Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Path: uunet!world!pie
From: (Carl Muckenhoupt)
Subject: An inspirational allegory
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 07:18:31 GMT
I dreamed that I was walking down the beach with the Goddess.
And I looked back and saw footprints in the sand.
But sometimes there were two pairs of footprints, and sometimes
there was only one. And the times when there was only one pair
of footprints, those were my times of greatest trouble.
So I asked the Goddess, "Why, in my greatest need, did you
abandon me?"
She replied, "I never left you. Those were the times when we
both hopped on one foot." And lo, I was really embarassed for
bothering Her with such a stupid question.
Carl Muckenhoupt, without honorary
Lies. There is no such thing as a "goddess".
Jd (let me talk to your wife)
Isaiah 45:5 "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no
God beside me....."
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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08 Jun 2004 12:11:39 AM |
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On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 23:27:50 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <g7tbc0l5p2lacnl5m5lmtif83ascusre8o@4ax.com>):
Gray Shockley wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 22:18:22 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <c9oplu$1jl$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):
In article <4o01c0pievn22a0hlhu8legsaj1vlrupdc@4ax.com> Jd
<Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> writes:
<Gray Shockley wrote:
<
<>On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:41:02 -0500, Jd wrote
<>(in article <4ckub0lej7afj7nhs27k61lc0g1skvfob7@4ax.com>):
<>
<>> Dear neptune3,
<>>
<>> I don't care whether Jews are running America or not since:
<>>
<>> 1) I've already discovered from reading the Bible that God knows how
<>> to handle Jews.
<>>
<>> 2) I've already discovered from watching TV that Jews know how to
<>> handle Islamic Jihadists.
<>>
<>> 3) Any Jews who may be running America would like my latest plan
<>> against terrorists.
<>
<>
<>Remember, if you walk a mile in another person's shoes, you are
<>not only a mile from the other person but you have her/his shoes.
<>
<> ++ Gray //
<
<Unless he/she is walking beside me wearing my shoes.
<
Actually, that's a pretty good reply...
-- cary
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Subject: An inspirational allegory
To: All
From:
Date: 7/2/94 2:18:31 AM
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Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Path: uunet!world!pie
From: (Carl Muckenhoupt)
Subject: An inspirational allegory
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 07:18:31 GMT
I dreamed that I was walking down the beach with the Goddess.
And I looked back and saw footprints in the sand.
But sometimes there were two pairs of footprints, and sometimes
there was only one. And the times when there was only one pair
of footprints, those were my times of greatest trouble.
So I asked the Goddess, "Why, in my greatest need, did you
abandon me?"
She replied, "I never left you. Those were the times when we
both hopped on one foot." And lo, I was really embarassed for
bothering Her with such a stupid question.
Carl Muckenhoupt, without honorary
Lies. There is no such thing as a "goddess".
Jd (let me talk to your wife)
Sure; go right ahead.
Gray Shockley
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For every complex problem there is an answer
that is clear, simple, and wrong. - H. L. Mencken
Isaiah 45:5 "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no
God beside me....."
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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03 Jun 2004 09:53:40 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 19:39:56 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <4o01c0pievn22a0hlhu8legsaj1vlrupdc@4ax.com>):
Gray Shockley wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:41:02 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <4ckub0lej7afj7nhs27k61lc0g1skvfob7@4ax.com>):
Dear neptune3,
I don't care whether Jews are running America or not since:
1) I've already discovered from reading the Bible that God knows how
to handle Jews.
2) I've already discovered from watching TV that Jews know how to
handle Islamic Jihadists.
3) Any Jews who may be running America would like my latest plan
against terrorists.
Remember, if you walk a mile in another person's shoes, you are
not only a mile from the other person but you have her/his shoes.
++ Gray //
Unless he/she is walking beside me wearing my shoes.
Jd
Ah, but JD; remember when you were promoting people pulling
themselves up by their bootstraps and they had no shoes?
Gray Shockley
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29 May 2004 09:15:01 PM |
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On Sun, 30 May 2004 00:40:10 GMT, Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
As you well know, this crap could go on for quite a long time. And
rather than wimpering and whinning about the whole mess endlessly as
talking heads and debate societies like the UN love to do, why not
speed up the whole process and get to the end of it all so we can move
on with our lives?
Here's how and it's really quite simple. One step.
1) Give the terrorists the option of partaking in an honest to God
"Holy War" by the following proclaimation of Congress....
"We the People of the United States of America do hereby proclaim
that with 48 hours of any next strike by Islamic terrorists upon the
free people of America, on American soil, that the Dome of the Rock on
the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the entire c | |