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10 Aug 2004 08:37:40 PM |
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How to weep with Gaia |
A whale has died on the S. American coast. He was 33 feet long and
weighed about 10 tons.
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=040810&cat=science&st=scienced84chmdg1&src=ap
Surely Mother Earth is weeping.
Jd
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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15 Aug 2004 02:29:23 PM |
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"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
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A whale has died on the S. American coast. He was 33 feet long and
weighed about 10 tons.
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=040810&cat=science&st=scienced84chmdg1&src=ap
Surely Mother Earth is weeping.
Surely you're smoking dope...
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| User: "Jd" |
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16 Aug 2004 05:28:10 PM |
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Stan de SD wrote:
"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
news:395jh0pgcjciajasu3j4nkrh5bun72u8a6@4ax.com...
A whale has died on the S. American coast. He was 33 feet long and
weighed about 10 tons.
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=040810&cat=science&st=scienced84chmdg1&src=ap
Surely Mother Earth is weeping.
Surely you're smoking dope...
No. Mocking like Elijah did at Jezebels false prophets.
Jd
1Kings 18:27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them,
and said, "Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is
pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must
be awaked".
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| User: "SReeseMe" |
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11 Aug 2004 08:38:28 PM |
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Subject: How to weep with Gaia
From: Jd
Date: 08/10/2004 9:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <395jh0pgcjciajasu3j4nkrh5bun72u8a6@4ax.com>
A whale has died on the S. American coast. He was 33 feet long and
weighed about 10 tons.
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=040810&cat=science&st=scie
nced84chmdg1&src=ap
Surely Mother Earth is weeping.
Jd
"Mother Earth is a large ball of molten rock and iron, it doesn't weep or feel.
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| User: "LetMeGoOK" |
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13 Aug 2004 12:18:55 AM |
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"Mother Earth is a large ball of molten rock and iron, it doesn't weep or
feel.
No, I would say she definately feels!
Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have
entertained angels unawares.
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| User: "Midjis" |
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11 Aug 2004 08:52:17 AM |
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Jd <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote:
A whale has died on the S. American coast. He was 33 feet long and
weighed about 10 tons.
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=040810&cat=science&st=sc
ienced84chmdg1&src=ap
Surely Mother Earth is weeping.
Why should She be? She killed it.
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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15 Aug 2004 02:29:58 PM |
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"Midjis" < @ . > wrote in message
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Jd <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote:
A whale has died on the S. American coast. He was 33 feet long and
weighed about 10 tons.
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=040810&cat=science&st=sc
ienced84chmdg1&src=ap
Surely Mother Earth is weeping.
Why should She be? She killed it.
ROTFLMAO!!! On target...
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| User: "Jd" |
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13 Aug 2004 10:20:05 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
Jd <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote:
A whale has died on the S. American coast. He was 33 feet long and
weighed about 10 tons.
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=040810&cat=science&st=sc
ienced84chmdg1&src=ap
Surely Mother Earth is weeping.
Why should She be? She killed it.
Utter blasphemy. These environmental wakos take up for Gaia by
blaming humans and all their pollution... for killing things.
And not only that, they think humans are overpopulating the earth and
devouring up all the resources at at alarming rate.... so their
pro-abortion and family planning goals are based on the notion that
the general population of the earth is too stupid and dangerous for
it's own good.
Jd
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| User: "Midjis" |
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14 Aug 2004 06:39:43 AM |
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Jd <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote:
Surely Mother Earth is weeping.
Why should She be? She killed it.
Utter blasphemy. These environmental wakos take up for Gaia by
blaming humans and all their pollution... for killing things.
And not only that, they think humans are overpopulating the earth and
devouring up all the resources at at alarming rate.... so their
pro-abortion and family planning goals are based on the notion that
the general population of the earth is too stupid and dangerous for
it's own good.
If you believe my comment was blasphemy then you have a lot to learn about
the Earth you so ostentatiously sympathise with.
But as for the rest of your post, I have absolutely no idea what argument
you are trying to make. You accuse me of blasphemy for stating that Mother
Earth, or whatever you wish to call her, kills - and then you start railing
about those who believe that humans are responsible for Earth's problems.
Which is it to be?
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Midjis
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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11 Aug 2004 02:05:15 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:37:40 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <395jh0pgcjciajasu3j4nkrh5bun72u8a6@4ax.com>):
A whale has died on the S. American coast. He was 33 feet long and
weighed about 10 tons.
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-
bin/news?e=pub&dt=040810&cat=science&st=scienced8
4chmdg1&src=ap
Surely Mother Earth is weeping.
Jd
One whale's death diminishes the universe.
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| User: "Jd" |
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13 Aug 2004 10:20:06 PM |
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Gray Shockley wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:37:40 -0500, Jd wrote
(in article <395jh0pgcjciajasu3j4nkrh5bun72u8a6@4ax.com>):
A whale has died on the S. American coast. He was 33 feet long and
weighed about 10 tons.
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-
bin/news?e=pub&dt=040810&cat=science&st=scienced8
4chmdg1&src=ap
Surely Mother Earth is weeping.
Jd
One whale's death diminishes the universe.
Nope. Matter is neither created nor destroyed.
I knew all along you were a false-scientist.
Jd
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| User: "Midjis" |
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14 Aug 2004 06:43:05 AM |
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Jd <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote:
Nope. Matter is neither created nor destroyed.
I knew all along you were a false-scientist.
Matter, however, is not at issue. Life is. And while life is certainly a
product of matter and energy, it is one that is not yet fully understood,
and it is not relevant here. Gray Shockley referred to the loss of a life
- not the loss of the physical bulk of the whale.
You are too keen to score points, JD, and as a result you fail to score
them. You might wish to consider calming down and reading more carefully
before you leap.
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Midjis
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| User: "Stan Pierce" |
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14 Aug 2004 07:47:15 AM |
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"Midjis" < @ . > wrote in message
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Jd <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote:
Nope. Matter is neither created nor destroyed.
How can matter exist without it being created in the first place. How do
you * Know * .
If it wasn't created you wouldn't be here to observe whether it was created
or not.
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14 Aug 2004 10:16:47 AM |
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"Stan Pierce" <tpierce@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
How can matter exist without it being created in the first place.
How do you * Know * .
If it wasn't created you wouldn't be here to observe whether it was
created or not.
The question here is what you believe constitutes 'creation'. Are you
making the assumption that 'created' must mean deliberately constructed by
an intelligent, thinking entity?
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14 Aug 2004 10:15:04 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
"Stan Pierce" <tpierce@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
How can matter exist without it being created in the first place.
How do you * Know * .
If it wasn't created you wouldn't be here to observe whether it was
created or not.
The question here is what you believe constitutes 'creation'. Are you
making the assumption that 'created' must mean deliberately constructed by
an intelligent, thinking entity?
Of course. Darwin himself admitted that the origins of the human
eyeball did not follow the evolutionary model....
"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for
adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different
amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic
aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I
freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."—*Charles Darwin, The
Origin of Species (1909 Harvard Classics edition), p. 190.
Jd
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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16 Aug 2004 12:06:07 PM |
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In article <j7hth09f1rspd5o7rei3loic0bh9qvdbi8@4ax.com> Jd <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> writes:
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<Midjis wrote:
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<>"Stan Pierce" <tpierce@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
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<>> How can matter exist without it being created in the first place.
<>> How do you * Know * .
<>> If it wasn't created you wouldn't be here to observe whether it was
<>> created or not.
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<>The question here is what you believe constitutes 'creation'. Are you
<>making the assumption that 'created' must mean deliberately constructed by
<>an intelligent, thinking entity?
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<Of course. Darwin himself admitted that the origins of the human
<eyeball did not follow the evolutionary model....
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<"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for
<adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different
<amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic
<aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I
<freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."—*Charles Darwin, The
<Origin of Species (1909 Harvard Classics edition), p. 190.
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Now, why don't you give honesty a try, and quote what Darwin
said immediately following the above?
You know: the part you carefully snipped. The part where
describes how evolution could lead to the development
of the human eyeball.
If your point were sound, you wouldn't have to lie by
omission to support it.
-- cary
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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16 Aug 2004 12:14:39 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:06:07 +0000 in episode
<cfqphv$1kh$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu> we saw our hero
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell):
In article <j7hth09f1rspd5o7rei3loic0bh9qvdbi8@4ax.com> Jd
<Jd.wuzhere@att.net> writes: <
<Midjis wrote:
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<>"Stan Pierce" <tpierce@bigpond.net.au> wrote: <>
<>> How can matter exist without it being created in the first place. <>>
How do you * Know * .
<>> If it wasn't created you wouldn't be here to observe whether it was
<>> created or not.
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<>The question here is what you believe constitutes 'creation'. Are you
<>making the assumption that 'created' must mean deliberately constructed
by <>an intelligent, thinking entity?
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<Of course. Darwin himself admitted that the origins of the human <eyeball
did not follow the evolutionary model.... <
<"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for
<adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different
<amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic
<aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I <freely
confess, absurd in the highest degree."—*Charles Darwin, The <Origin of
Species (1909 Harvard Classics edition), p. 190. <
Now, why don't you give honesty a try, and quote what Darwin said
immediately following the above?
Well, first of all, I doubt he knows it's been dishonestly taken out of
context. That would require actually reading books and other horrible
stuff like, you know, learning something...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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16 Aug 2004 12:50:30 PM |
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In article <U4SdnbSdB7fgdr3cRVn-sA@megapath.net> "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> writes:
<On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:06:07 +0000 in episode
<<cfqphv$1kh$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu> we saw our hero
<cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell):
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<> In article <j7hth09f1rspd5o7rei3loic0bh9qvdbi8@4ax.com> Jd
<> <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> writes: <
<> <Midjis wrote:
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<> <>"Stan Pierce" <tpierce@bigpond.net.au> wrote: <>
<> <>> How can matter exist without it being created in the first place. <>>
<> How do you * Know * .
<> <>> If it wasn't created you wouldn't be here to observe whether it was
<> <>> created or not.
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<> <>The question here is what you believe constitutes 'creation'. Are you
<> <>making the assumption that 'created' must mean deliberately constructed
<> by <>an intelligent, thinking entity?
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<> <Of course. Darwin himself admitted that the origins of the human <eyeball
<> did not follow the evolutionary model.... <
<> <"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for
<> <adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different
<> <amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic
<> <aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I <freely
<> confess, absurd in the highest degree."—*Charles Darwin, The <Origin of
<> Species (1909 Harvard Classics edition), p. 190. <
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<> Now, why don't you give honesty a try, and quote what Darwin said
<> immediately following the above?
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<Well, first of all, I doubt he knows it's been dishonestly taken out of
<context. That would require actually reading books and other horrible
<stuff like, you know, learning something...
My thought too -- the first time he did this, quite some time back.
But he's been corrected on this one before. He just doesn't care.
-- cary
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15 Aug 2004 04:46:12 AM |
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Jd <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote:
Of course. Darwin himself admitted that the origins of the human
eyeball did not follow the evolutionary model....
"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for
adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different
amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic
aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I
freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."-*Charles Darwin, The
Origin of Species (1909 Harvard Classics edition), p. 190.
Gray's existing response to this makes a very important point if we are
going to focus on eyes (no pun intended): if the eye is evidence of the
skill of God, then our situation is grim indeed. If we have to rely on
humans to correct the inept work of God then Creation has a problem. In
general, taking the complexity of the workings of the human body as
evidence of deliberate Creation is unsafe, since the human body does keep
on going wrong. It is a bag of failures: leaks, twists, blockages,
breaks, errors, deficiences - and these are evidence of your all-
powerful, all-knowing Creator's handiwork?
But aside from that point, your quote, taken as it stands, does not say
what you seem to think it says. "Darwin himself admitted that the
origins of the human eyeball did not follow the evolutionary model", you
say - and then you quote a passage in which Darwin simply says it seems
absurd to believe that the eye was formed by natural selection. And to
someone who was not used to the idea - such as Darwin - it might well.
Read the passage again, carefully. Do you understand the difference
between what he said and what you said he said? My hopes are not high.
Think. Do you honestly believe Darwin would have spent years studying
biology, formulated a hypothesis on the idea of natural selection,
written a book about it, and then announced that it was nonsense because
actually God Did It?
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Midjis
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| User: "James Powell" |
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15 Aug 2004 07:57:32 AM |
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"Midjis" < @ . > wrote in message
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Jd <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote:
Of course. Darwin himself admitted that the origins of the human
eyeball did not follow the evolutionary model....
"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for
adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different
amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic
aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I
freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."-*Charles Darwin, The
Origin of Species (1909 Harvard Classics edition), p. 190.
As usual, this misses the follow-up:
"Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex
eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its
possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so
slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainly the case; and
if any variation or modification in the organ be ever useful to an animal
under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a
perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though
insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real. "
Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species
(http://www.literature.org/authors/darwin-charles/the-origin-of-species/chap
ter-06.html)
The gradations have been shown to exist.
James Powell
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16 Aug 2004 05:28:09 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
Jd <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote:
Of course. Darwin himself admitted that the origins of the human
eyeball did not follow the evolutionary model....
"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for
adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different
amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic
aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I
freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."-*Charles Darwin, The
Origin of Species (1909 Harvard Classics edition), p. 190.
Gray's existing response to this makes a very important point if we are
going to focus on eyes (no pun intended): if the eye is evidence of the
skill of God, then our situation is grim indeed. If we have to rely on
humans to correct the inept work of God then Creation has a problem. In
general, taking the complexity of the workings of the human body as
evidence of deliberate Creation is unsafe, since the human body does keep
on going wrong. It is a bag of failures: leaks, twists, blockages,
breaks, errors, deficiences - and these are evidence of your all-
powerful, all-knowing Creator's handiwork?
But aside from that point, your quote, taken as it stands, does not say
what you seem to think it says. "Darwin himself admitted that the
origins of the human eyeball did not follow the evolutionary model", you
say - and then you quote a passage in which Darwin simply says it seems
absurd to believe that the eye was formed by natural selection. And to
someone who was not used to the idea - such as Darwin - it might well.
Read the passage again, carefully. Do you understand the difference
between what he said and what you said he said? My hopes are not high.
Think. Do you honestly believe Darwin would have spent years studying
biology, formulated a hypothesis on the idea of natural selection,
written a book about it, and then announced that it was nonsense because
actually God Did It?
His conflict arose out of the fact that he was at one time a devout
Christian, but around the time of the Beagle voyage he became am
X-christian. Some say he was involved in witchcraft somewhere in South
America.
"It is not commonly known that *Charles Darwin, while a naturalist
aboard the Beagle, was initiated into witchcraft in South America by
nationals. During horseback travels into the interior, he took part in
their ceremonies and, as a result, something happened to him. Upon his
return to England, although his health was strangely weakened, he
spent the rest of his life working on theories to destroy faith in the
Creator."
http://evolution-facts.org/c01a.htm#Top
Jd
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20 Aug 2004 07:47:29 PM |
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"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
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His conflict arose out of the fact that he was at one time a devout
Christian, but around the time of the Beagle voyage he became am
X-christian. Some say he was involved in witchcraft somewhere in South
America.
"It is not commonly known that *Charles Darwin, while a naturalist
aboard the Beagle, was initiated into witchcraft in South America by
nationals. During horseback travels into the interior, he took part in
their ceremonies and, as a result, something happened to him. Upon his
return to England, although his health was strangely weakened, he
spent the rest of his life working on theories to destroy faith in the
Creator."
http://evolution-facts.org/c01a.htm#Top
Jd
Somebody want to resurrect the thread where this particular quote was shown
to be a complete fabrication by the retrieval of the actual book?
Really, Jd, get a grip on reality!
James Powell
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20 Aug 2004 07:49:45 PM |
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"James Powell" <james@example.com> wrote in message
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"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
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His conflict arose out of the fact that he was at one time a devout
Christian, but around the time of the Beagle voyage he became am
X-christian. Some say he was involved in witchcraft somewhere in South
America.
"It is not commonly known that *Charles Darwin, while a naturalist
aboard the Beagle, was initiated into witchcraft in South America by
nationals. During horseback travels into the interior, he took part in
their ceremonies and, as a result, something happened to him. Upon his
return to England, although his health was strangely weakened, he
spent the rest of his life working on theories to destroy faith in the
Creator."
http://evolution-facts.org/c01a.htm#Top
Jd
Somebody want to resurrect the thread where this particular quote was
shown
to be a complete fabrication by the retrieval of the actual book?
Really, Jd, get a grip on reality!
James Powell
Never mind.
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24 Aug 2004 06:52:30 PM |
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James Powell wrote:
"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
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His conflict arose out of the fact that he was at one time a devout
Christian, but around the time of the Beagle voyage he became am
X-christian. Some say he was involved in witchcraft somewhere in South
America.
"It is not commonly known that *Charles Darwin, while a naturalist
aboard the Beagle, was initiated into witchcraft in South America by
nationals. During horseback travels into the interior, he took part in
their ceremonies and, as a result, something happened to him. Upon his
return to England, although his health was strangely weakened, he
spent the rest of his life working on theories to destroy faith in the
Creator."
http://evolution-facts.org/c01a.htm#Top
Jd
Somebody want to resurrect the thread where this particular quote was shown
to be a complete fabrication by the retrieval of the actual book?
Really, Jd, get a grip on reality!
James Powell
Well, in all honesty I haven'y checked that website in quite a while
to see if it's still up. But that doesn't invalidate my archives does
it?
Jd
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29 Aug 2004 07:37:20 AM |
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"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
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James Powell wrote:
"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
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His conflict arose out of the fact that he was at one time a devout
Christian, but around the time of the Beagle voyage he became am
X-christian. Some say he was involved in witchcraft somewhere in South
America.
"It is not commonly known that *Charles Darwin, while a naturalist
aboard the Beagle, was initiated into witchcraft in South America by
nationals. During horseback travels into the interior, he took part in
their ceremonies and, as a result, something happened to him. Upon his
return to England, although his health was strangely weakened, he
spent the rest of his life working on theories to destroy faith in the
Creator."
http://evolution-facts.org/c01a.htm#Top
Jd
Somebody want to resurrect the thread where this particular quote was
shown
to be a complete fabrication by the retrieval of the actual book?
Really, Jd, get a grip on reality!
James Powell
Well, in all honesty I haven'y checked that website in quite a while
to see if it's still up. But that doesn't invalidate my archives does
it?
Jd
Yes. The quote is bogus. It has been shown as bogus. The site is wrong and
so are your "archives".
James Powell
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29 Aug 2004 11:45:44 AM |
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"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in a message:
His conflict arose out of the fact that he was at one time a devout
Christian, but around the time of the Beagle voyage he became am
X-christian. Some say he was involved in witchcraft somewhere in South
America.
"It is not commonly known that *Charles Darwin, while a naturalist
aboard the Beagle, was initiated into witchcraft in South America by
nationals. During horseback travels into the interior, he took part in
their ceremonies and, as a result, something happened to him. Upon his
return to England, although his health was strangely weakened, he
spent the rest of his life working on theories to destroy faith in the
Creator."
http://evolution-facts.org/c01a.htm#Top
Well, in all honesty I haven'y checked that website in quite a while
to see if it's still up. But that doesn't invalidate my archives does
it?
Jd
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 07:37:20 -0500, James Powell wrote:
Yes. The quote is bogus. It has been shown as bogus. The site is wrong and
so are your "archives".
James Powell
Oh, please! Not "bogus" but, rather, "not properly recorded in this
space-time continuum but possible in a parallel universe".
To wit:
1. It is one of the funniest and silliest "quotations" on the Internet
and
2. As aforementioned, it is on the Internet and, therefore, is true.
I bet you can't rationally argue with logic such as that!
Gray Shockley
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Don't Change Horsemen in
the Middle of an Apocalypse.
- Mrs. Betty Bowers
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29 Aug 2004 05:15:50 PM |
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Gray Shockley wrote:
"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in a message:
His conflict arose out of the fact that he was at one time a devout
Christian, but around the time of the Beagle voyage he became am
X-christian. Some say he was involved in witchcraft somewhere in South
America.
"It is not commonly known that *Charles Darwin, while a naturalist
aboard the Beagle, was initiated into witchcraft in South America by
nationals. During horseback travels into the interior, he took part in
their ceremonies and, as a result, something happened to him. Upon his
return to England, although his health was strangely weakened, he
spent the rest of his life working on theories to destroy faith in the
Creator."
http://evolution-facts.org/c01a.htm#Top
Well, in all honesty I haven'y checked that website in quite a while
to see if it's still up. But that doesn't invalidate my archives does
it?
Jd
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 07:37:20 -0500, James Powell wrote:
Yes. The quote is bogus. It has been shown as bogus. The site is wrong and
so are your "archives".
James Powell
Oh, please! Not "bogus" but, rather, "not properly recorded in this
space-time continuum but possible in a parallel universe".
To wit:
1. It is one of the funniest and silliest "quotations" on the Internet
and
2. As aforementioned, it is on the Internet and, therefore, is true.
I bet you can't rationally argue with logic such as that!
Gray Shockley
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Don't Change Horsemen in
the Middle of an Apocalypse.
- Mrs. Betty Bowers
Sure I can. And having recently acquired 26 search engines I could
make a very good case.
Jd
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29 Aug 2004 07:24:42 PM |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:15:50 -0500, Jd wrote:
Gray Shockley
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Don't Change Horsemen in
the Middle of an Apocalypse.
- Mrs. Betty Bowers
Sure I can. And having recently acquired 26 search engines I could
make a very good case.
Jd
Yeah, I've eliminated most of mine also. I now use google for the great
majority of my searches because it's so simple to close down or open up
a very specific subject.
Gray Shockley
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grayshockley@gmail.com
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| User: "Jd" |
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01 Sep 2004 10:49:41 PM |
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Gray Shockley wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:15:50 -0500, Jd wrote:
Gray Shockley
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Don't Change Horsemen in
the Middle of an Apocalypse.
- Mrs. Betty Bowers
Sure I can. And having recently acquired 26 search engines I could
make a very good case.
Jd
Yeah, I've eliminated most of mine also. I now use google for the great
majority of my searches because it's so simple to close down or open up
a very specific subject.
Gray Shockley
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grayshockley@gmail.com
You've yet to get a google bar I see. I can pick from 26 or so bars
(including several google europe bars). Unfortunately, I don't have
the time I'd like to have to mess with that stuff. But it's nice to
have just in case.
Jd
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29 Aug 2004 12:06:31 PM |
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James Powell wrote:
"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
news:2orni0hnh2ilkm048miavnmia3k67vk29p@4ax.com...
James Powell wrote:
"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
news:p7e2i052c7hkaeflb2s8us541uhdq0cjbh@4ax.com...
His conflict arose out of the fact that he was at one time a devout
Christian, but around the time of the Beagle voyage he became am
X-christian. Some say he was involved in witchcraft somewhere in South
America.
"It is not commonly known that *Charles Darwin, while a naturalist
aboard the Beagle, was initiated into witchcraft in South America by
nationals. During horseback travels into the interior, he took part in
their ceremonies and, as a result, something happened to him. Upon his
return to England, although his health was strangely weakened, he
spent the rest of his life working on theories to destroy faith in the
Creator."
http://evolution-facts.org/c01a.htm#Top
Jd
Somebody want to resurrect the thread where this particular quote was
shown
to be a complete fabrication by the retrieval of the actual book?
Really, Jd, get a grip on reality!
James Powell
Well, in all honesty I haven'y checked that website in quite a while
to see if it's still up. But that doesn't invalidate my archives does
it?
Jd
Yes. The quote is bogus. It has been shown as bogus. The site is wrong and
so are your "archives".
James Powell
I disagree. Darwin was infected by demonic forces. He fell from the
Christian faith and professed such in his own words.
Whether you want to call it witchcraft or demonic forces, the results
are the same. And you guys who are scientifically orientated should
not worry about such things since it's beyond your scope to delve into
such matters.
Jd
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29 Aug 2004 12:21:04 PM |
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"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
news:uea4j01br29dd69mnhg2n0luk8t252io6o@4ax.com...
James Powell wrote:
"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
news:2orni0hnh2ilkm048miavnmia3k67vk29p@4ax.com...
James Powell wrote:
"Jd" <Jd.wuzhere@att.net> wrote in message
news:p7e2i052c7hkaeflb2s8us541uhdq0cjbh@4ax.com...
His conflict arose out of the fact that he was at one time a devout
Christian, but around the time of the Beagle voyage he became am
X-christian. Some say he was involved in witchcraft somewhere in
South
America.
"It is not commonly known that *Charles Darwin, while a naturalist
aboard the Beagle, was initiated into witchcraft in South America by
nationals. During horseback travels into the interior, he took part
in
their ceremonies and, as a result, something happened to him. Upon
his
return to England, although his health was strangely weakened, he
spent the rest of his life working on theories to destroy faith in
the
Creator."
http://evolution-facts.org/c01a.htm#Top
Jd
Somebody want to resurrect the thread where this particular quote was
shown
to be a complete fabrication by the retrieval of the actual book?
Really, Jd, get a grip on reality!
James Powell
Well, in all honesty I haven'y checked that website in quite a while
to see if it's still up. But that doesn't invalidate my archives does
it?
Jd
Yes. The quote is bogus. It has been shown as bogus. The site is wrong
and
so are your "archives".
James Powell
I disagree. Darwin was infected by demonic forces. He fell from the
Christian faith and professed such in his own words.
Whether you want to call it witchcraft or demonic forces, the results
are the same. And you guys who are scientifically orientated should
not worry about such things since it's beyond your scope to delve into
such matters.
Jd
Wombat.
Your response is irrelevant to any sane discussion.
James Powell
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