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"Gactimus" |
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26 Jan 2005 01:53:36 PM |
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How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How will
the Democrats do better?"
Since the elections, Democrats have engaged in a frenzy of hatred and
bitterness. Consider:
1. They've demanded multiple recounts in Ohio and repeatedly claimed that
Bush "stole" the election.
2. One Democrat senator and 31 Democrat House members voted to decertify
Ohio's electoral votes and disenfranchise 62 million Bush voters.
3. John Kerry used the occasion of MLK Day to allege vote fraud in Ohio.
4. Kerry took a foreign trip and criticized US foreign policy on foreign
soil.
5. Senate Democrats have assailed - with unprecedented harshness - Bush
cabinet members at confirmation hearings. Out of spite, they delayed
the confirmation of Condi Rice so that she wouldn't be confirmed on
inaugural day.
6. Inaugural day saw puerile protests from Democrats contemptuous of
democracy.
And it's only going to get worse:
"Trying to show that they remain a force despite their reduced numbers,
Senate Democrats on Monday threatened new hurdles for President Bush's
cabinet choices and expressed deep misgivings about the planned Social
Security changes at the heart of this year's Republican agenda.
Senator Byron Dorgan of North Dakota said he was mulling whether to
try to stall consideration of Michael O. Leavitt, Mr. Bush's choice
for health secretary, unless Mr. Dorgan was guaranteed a vote on
allowing importation of cheaper prescription drugs.
In addition, a growing number of Democrats are raising issues about
the selection of Alberto R. Gonzales as attorney general, a nomination
initially headed for quick approval."
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"'The honeymoon is over and we are now in the full throes of our new
marital arrangement here,' said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois,
the Democratic whip, after he and other Democratic leaders introduced
a priority list on Monday sharply at odds with that put forward by
Republicans."
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"[Democrats] demonstrated a willingness to use procedural weapons to
make their points, even at the risk of being branded
obstructionists."
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
26 Jan 2005 02:24:51 PM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:AhNJd.4167$PB.2014@okepread01...
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How will
the Democrats do better?"
Since the elections, Democrats have engaged in a frenzy of hatred and
bitterness. Consider:
1. They've demanded multiple recounts in Ohio and repeatedly claimed that
Bush "stole" the election.
2. One Democrat senator and 31 Democrat House members voted to decertify
Ohio's electoral votes and disenfranchise 62 million Bush voters.
3. John Kerry used the occasion of MLK Day to allege vote fraud in Ohio.
4. Kerry took a foreign trip and criticized US foreign policy on foreign
soil.
5. Senate Democrats have assailed - with unprecedented harshness - Bush
cabinet members at confirmation hearings. Out of spite, they delayed
the confirmation of Condi Rice so that she wouldn't be confirmed on
inaugural day.
6. Inaugural day saw puerile protests from Democrats contemptuous of
democracy.
And it's only going to get worse:
"Trying to show that they remain a force despite their reduced numbers,
Senate Democrats on Monday threatened new hurdles for President Bush's
cabinet choices and expressed deep misgivings about the planned Social
Security changes at the heart of this year's Republican agenda.
Senator Byron Dorgan of North Dakota said he was mulling whether to
try to stall consideration of Michael O. Leavitt, Mr. Bush's choice
for health secretary, unless Mr. Dorgan was guaranteed a vote on
allowing importation of cheaper prescription drugs.
In addition, a growing number of Democrats are raising issues about
the selection of Alberto R. Gonzales as attorney general, a nomination
initially headed for quick approval."
...
"'The honeymoon is over and we are now in the full throes of our new
marital arrangement here,' said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois,
the Democratic whip, after he and other Democratic leaders introduced
a priority list on Monday sharply at odds with that put forward by
Republicans."
...
"[Democrats] demonstrated a willingness to use procedural weapons to
make their points, even at the risk of being branded
obstructionists."
The Democrat Party is now in full meltdown.
What a delight to watch!
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
26 Jan 2005 03:22:49 PM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:AhNJd.4167$PB.2014@okepread01...
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How will
the Democrats do better?"
Since the elections, Democrats have engaged in a frenzy of hatred and
bitterness. Consider:
1. They've demanded multiple recounts in Ohio and repeatedly claimed that
Bush "stole" the election.
false
2. One Democrat senator and 31 Democrat House members voted to decertify
Ohio's electoral votes and disenfranchise 62 million Bush voters.
true
3. John Kerry used the occasion of MLK Day to allege vote fraud in Ohio.
true
4. Kerry took a foreign trip and criticized US foreign policy on foreign
soil.
Yay!! If bush would do that, our boys could stop dying.
5. Senate Democrats have assailed - with unprecedented harshness - Bush
cabinet members at confirmation hearings. Out of spite, they delayed
the confirmation of Condi Rice so that she wouldn't be confirmed on
inaugural day.
The fact that she's a stone cold liar couldn't have anything to do with
it. lol
6. Inaugural day saw puerile protests from Democrats contemptuous of
democracy.
snore
And it's only going to get worse:
You betcher *****! 31 investigations into the Bush admin to date.
"Trying to show that they remain a force despite their reduced numbers,
Senate Democrats on Monday threatened new hurdles for President Bush's
cabinet choices and expressed deep misgivings about the planned Social
Security changes at the heart of this year's Republican agenda.
Maybe they don't like being lied to. lol
Senator Byron Dorgan of North Dakota said he was mulling whether to
try to stall consideration of Michael O. Leavitt, Mr. Bush's choice
for health secretary, unless Mr. Dorgan was guaranteed a vote on
allowing importation of cheaper prescription drugs.
Yay!!
In addition, a growing number of Democrats are raising issues about
the selection of Alberto R. Gonzales as attorney general, a nomination
initially headed for quick approval."
Yeah, the torture lawyer might actually have to recant instead of
weaseling around and not answering questions.
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"'The honeymoon is over and we are now in the full throes of our new
marital arrangement here,' said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois,
the Democratic whip, after he and other Democratic leaders introduced
a priority list on Monday sharply at odds with that put forward by
Republicans."
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"[Democrats] demonstrated a willingness to use procedural weapons to
make their points, even at the risk of being branded
obstructionists."
That's what happens when you try to railroad half the country.
So, where's the frenzy ofhatred and bitterness? Sounds like a day in
Clinton's republican congress to me, except then there'd be some 50 more
judgeships denied. lol
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27 Jan 2005 07:05:02 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How will
the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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27 Jan 2005 01:31:27 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cta3qt$mdv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
So when are those Democrats going to offer any alternative plans in Iraq?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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28 Jan 2005 05:16:57 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cta3qt$mdv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
28 Jan 2005 12:42:01 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cta3qt$mdv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
29 Jan 2005 04:09:17 AM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
I wouldn't have killed tens of thousands of people on a pretext like
Bush did.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
29 Jan 2005 07:34:53 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
I wouldn't have killed tens of thousands of people on a pretext like
Bush did.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
29 Jan 2005 07:23:23 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
I wouldn't have killed tens of thousands of people on a pretext like
Bush did.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
Fire the person who caused it.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
29 Jan 2005 11:57:30 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
I wouldn't have killed tens of thousands of people on a pretext like
Bush did.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
Fire the person who caused it.
That's it?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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30 Jan 2005 02:01:35 AM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
Fire the person who caused it.
That's it?
When people commit murder the first item on the agenda is to put them
in prison where they cannot do any more harm. Bringing the victims
back to life usually isn't an option, so people find solutions as best
they can.
If you're trying to argue that we shouldn't put people in prison
because we can't bring the victim back to life any better than can
the criminal, then I'd suggest that you should take a look at why
you're so willing to ignore such crimes.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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30 Jan 2005 06:55:07 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
Fire the person who caused it.
That's it?
When people commit murder the first item on the agenda is to put them
in prison where they cannot do any more harm. Bringing the victims
back to life usually isn't an option, so people find solutions as best
they can.
If you're trying to argue that we shouldn't put people in prison
because we can't bring the victim back to life any better than can
the criminal, then I'd suggest that you should take a look at why
you're so willing to ignore such crimes.
Did you even read the question?
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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28 Jan 2005 03:00:50 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:tqqKd.2394$AY3.1192@news02.roc.ny:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cta3qt$mdv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
Good luck getting a constructive answer out of him.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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28 Jan 2005 03:03:20 PM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:41fa53a2@x-privat.org...
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:tqqKd.2394$AY3.1192@news02.roc.ny:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cta3qt$mdv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
Good luck getting a constructive answer out of him.
I have been watching the thread so far, and I haven't seen anyone who is
constantly bashing Bush giving an answer. Isn't it funny how they can bash
the President but they have no answers?
The elections will be interesting, I think we will learn a great deal more
and have some better idea as to what we should do after the elections are
complete.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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29 Jan 2005 04:09:38 AM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:41fa53a2@x-privat.org...
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:tqqKd.2394$AY3.1192@news02.roc.ny:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cta3qt$mdv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
Good luck getting a constructive answer out of him.
I have been watching the thread so far, and I haven't seen anyone who is
constantly bashing Bush giving an answer.
That's because you have your head up your *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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28 Jan 2005 03:16:27 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:tqqKd.2394$AY3.1192
@news02.roc.ny:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
announce a pullout of all united states troops in, say 60-days.
through the united nations, apologize to the world and iraq and ask for the
support of the nations help iraq, notice that we will provide troops and
resources to a united nations force.
offer restitution for the horror and damage we created.
--
"That's not a forgery, stupid" moaned forger Frank Dwyer as
he tried to explain why he manufactured text and falsely
attributed it to me. <4Y8Kd.2254$Ty.1665@news02.roc.ny>
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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28 Jan 2005 03:30:42 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:Xns95EC68874D872keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:tqqKd.2394$AY3.1192@news02.roc.ny:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
announce a pullout of all united states troops in, say 60-days.
through the united nations, apologize to the world and iraq and ask for
the support of the nations help iraq, notice that we will provide troops
and resources to a united nations force.
How will a UN force be any better than an American force?
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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28 Jan 2005 03:33:20 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:41fa5aa2$1@x-privat.org:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:Xns95EC68874D872keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:tqqKd.2394$AY3.1192@news02.roc.ny:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of
thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
announce a pullout of all united states troops in, say 60-days.
through the united nations, apologize to the world and iraq and ask
for
the support of the nations help iraq, notice that we will provide
troops
and resources to a united nations force.
How will a UN force be any better than an American force?
at the very least it will kill fewer americans. it will also most likely
kill fewer iraquis.
people like you who love death probably have a hard time with those
concepts.
--
"That's not a forgery, stupid" moaned forger Frank Dwyer as
he tried to explain why he manufactured text and falsely
attributed it to me. <4Y8Kd.2254$Ty.1665@news02.roc.ny>
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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28 Jan 2005 03:49:19 PM |
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On 28 Jan 2005 15:33:20 GMT, "james g. keegan jr."
<keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:41fa5aa2$1@x-privat.org:
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in
news:Xns95EC68874D872keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:tqqKd.2394$AY3.1192@news02.roc.ny:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of
thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
announce a pullout of all united states troops in, say 60-days.
through the united nations, apologize to the world and iraq and ask
for
the support of the nations help iraq, notice that we will provide
troops
and resources to a united nations force.
How will a UN force be any better than an American force?
at the very least it will kill fewer americans. it will also most likely
kill fewer iraquis.
people like you who love death probably have a hard time with those
concepts.
Peace keepers have to be prepared to duck bullets rather take out
entire blocks and even cities in response. That just escalates things.
They also have to respect local culture, mores, feelings etc.
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| User: "XpatriotgamesX" |
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28 Jan 2005 08:43:28 PM |
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Subject: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look
From: "james g. keegan jr."
Date: 1/28/2005 7:16 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <Xns95EC68874D872keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4>
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:tqqKd.2394$AY3.1192
@news02.roc.ny:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
announce a pullout of all united states troops in, say 60-days.
through the united nations, apologize to the world and iraq and ask for the
support of the nations help iraq, notice that we will provide troops and
resources to a united nations force.
offer restitution for the horror and damage we created.
LOL. Ah, never mind.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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28 Jan 2005 03:46:42 PM |
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On 28 Jan 2005 15:16:27 GMT, "james g. keegan jr."
<keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in news:tqqKd.2394$AY3.1192
@news02.roc.ny:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Lessee, they didn't lie to America in order to kill tens of thousands
of innocent people while spending $300,000,000,000 of taxpayer's
money.
Given the current situation in Iraq, as it is, what would you do?
announce a pullout of all united states troops in, say 60-days.
through the united nations, apologize to the world and iraq and ask for the
support of the nations help iraq, notice that we will provide troops and
resources to a united nations force.
And let the UN or the other nations handle it.
Don't supply US troops, because they don't know how to act as
peace-keepers. All they know is taking sides and overwhelming
response.
offer restitution for the horror and damage we created.
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27 Jan 2005 11:11:24 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:41f8ed2f@x-privat.org:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cta3qt$mdv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
So when are those Democrats going to offer any alternative plans in Iraq?
as soon as kerry takes the oath of office as commander-in-chief. who better
to get bush out of the horrible mess he made than a war hero?
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"That's not a forgery, stupid" moaned forger Frank Dwyer as
he tried to explain why he manufactured text and falsely
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
28 Jan 2005 12:59:13 AM |
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:41f8ed2f@x-privat.org:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cta3qt$mdv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How
will the Democrats do better?"
You decided to embrass yourself some more?
How could Democrats do any worse would be a better question.
They like to show us almost every day.
So when are those Democrats going to offer any alternative plans in Iraq?
as soon as kerry takes the oath of office as commander-in-chief. who better
to get bush out of the horrible mess he made than a war hero?
Would Kerry have hired one as a consultant?
Other than whine, evade, and create a sig showing the mental capacity of
a 5 year old, what would you do to solve the Iraq situation?
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
28 Jan 2005 01:09:38 AM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:B7gKd.2337$%N1.1505@news02.roc.ny:
Other than whine, evade,
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"That's not a forgery, stupid" moaned forger Frank Dwyer as
he tried to explain why he manufactured text and falsely
attributed it to me. <4Y8Kd.2254$Ty.1665@news02.roc.ny>
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
28 Jan 2005 12:45:26 PM |
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james g. keegan jr. wrote a sig that a 14 year old called immature:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:B7gKd.2337$%N1.1505@news02.roc.ny:
Other than whine, evade, and create a sig showing the mental capacity of a 5 year old, what would you do to solve the Iraq situation?
So you have no ideas... what a surprise.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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28 Jan 2005 03:17:30 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in
news:GtqKd.2396$AY3.611@news02.roc.ny:
So you have no ideas... what a surprise.
you're lying, but that's an improvement over forgery. keep up tghe good
work.
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"That's not a forgery, stupid" moaned forger Frank Dwyer as
he tried to explain why he manufactured text and falsely
attributed it to me. <4Y8Kd.2254$Ty.1665@news02.roc.ny>
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| User: "Dennis" |
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
26 Jan 2005 02:29:18 PM |
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Nothing Republicans would not have done if things were reversed.
Gactimus wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How will
the Democrats do better?"
Since the elections, Democrats have engaged in a frenzy of hatred and
bitterness. Consider:
1. They've demanded multiple recounts in Ohio and repeatedly claimed that
Bush "stole" the election.
2. One Democrat senator and 31 Democrat House members voted to decertify
Ohio's electoral votes and disenfranchise 62 million Bush voters.
3. John Kerry used the occasion of MLK Day to allege vote fraud in Ohio.
4. Kerry took a foreign trip and criticized US foreign policy on foreign
soil.
5. Senate Democrats have assailed - with unprecedented harshness - Bush
cabinet members at confirmation hearings. Out of spite, they delayed
the confirmation of Condi Rice so that she wouldn't be confirmed on
inaugural day.
6. Inaugural day saw puerile protests from Democrats contemptuous of
democracy.
And it's only going to get worse:
"Trying to show that they remain a force despite their reduced numbers,
Senate Democrats on Monday threatened new hurdles for President Bush's
cabinet choices and expressed deep misgivings about the planned Social
Security changes at the heart of this year's Republican agenda.
Senator Byron Dorgan of North Dakota said he was mulling whether to
try to stall consideration of Michael O. Leavitt, Mr. Bush's choice
for health secretary, unless Mr. Dorgan was guaranteed a vote on
allowing importation of cheaper prescription drugs.
In addition, a growing number of Democrats are raising issues about
the selection of Alberto R. Gonzales as attorney general, a nomination
initially headed for quick approval."
...
"'The honeymoon is over and we are now in the full throes of our new
marital arrangement here,' said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois,
the Democratic whip, after he and other Democratic leaders introduced
a priority list on Monday sharply at odds with that put forward by
Republicans."
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"[Democrats] demonstrated a willingness to use procedural weapons to
make their points, even at the risk of being branded
obstructionists."
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: How will the Democrats do better -- Another look |
26 Jan 2005 03:23:25 PM |
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"Dennis" <den942@bright.net> wrote in message
news:41F7A93E.3090606@bright.net...
Nothing Republicans would not have done if things were reversed.
Nothing they didn't do 8 years ago.
Gactimus wrote:
This is a followup to my thread "Enough with the Bush Bashing -- How will
the Democrats do better?"
Since the elections, Democrats have engaged in a frenzy of hatred and
bitterness. Consider: 1. They've demanded multiple recounts in Ohio and
repeatedly claimed that
Bush "stole" the election. 2. One Democrat senator and 31 Democrat House
members voted to decertify
Ohio's electoral votes and disenfranchise 62 million Bush voters. 3.
John Kerry used the occasion of MLK Day to allege vote fraud in Ohio.
4. Kerry took a foreign trip and criticized US foreign policy on foreign
soil. 5. Senate Democrats have assailed - with unprecedented
harshness - Bush
cabinet members at confirmation hearings. Out of spite, they delayed
the confirmation of Condi Rice so that she wouldn't be confirmed on
inaugural day. 6. Inaugural day saw puerile protests from Democrats
contemptuous of
democracy. And it's only going to get worse:
"Trying to show that they remain a force despite their reduced
numbers,
Senate Democrats on Monday threatened new hurdles for President
Bush's
cabinet choices and expressed deep misgivings about the planned
Social
Security changes at the heart of this year's Republican agenda.
Senator Byron Dorgan of North Dakota said he was mulling whether to
try to stall consideration of Michael O. Leavitt, Mr. Bush's choice
for health secretary, unless Mr. Dorgan was guaranteed a vote on
allowing importation of cheaper prescription drugs. In addition, a
growing number of Democrats are raising issues about
the selection of Alberto R. Gonzales as attorney general, a
nomination
initially headed for quick approval."
...
"'The honeymoon is over and we are now in the full throes of our new
marital arrangement here,' said Senator Richard J. Durbin of
Illinois,
the Democratic whip, after he and other Democratic leaders introduced
a priority list on Monday sharply at odds with that put forward by
Republicans."
...
"[Democrats] demonstrated a willingness to use procedural weapons to
make their points, even at the risk of being branded
obstructionists."
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