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"johac" |
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25 Jan 2008 02:11:45 AM |
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Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
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Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then engaged in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?" Huckabee, who has called abortion a "holocaust,"
then issued a dire warning:
" ... I pray that no father ever stands over the shoulder of his
own daughter and after her witnessing the decline and the fall of a
great nation, writes, and sees her write these words, "why didn't
somebody do something?" You see, I believe the reason we're here is
because we are the somebodies. And we're to do the something and if we
don't, who will? And if we don't act now, when will it happen, and will
it be too late? You leave this conference with this haunting question,
and pray that no one would ever ask of you or of me, why didn't somebody
do something."
You read that right. Huckabee thinks if the "seculars" are allowed to
rule America, our country could suffer the same fate as Nazi Germany. A
resounding insult all around from this "Christian leader."
This post is excerpted from The FundamentaList, Sarah Posner's weekly
countdown of the top news from the religious right at The American
Prospect Online.
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http://tinyurl.com/39e7wz
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John #1782
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| User: "Kenny McCormack" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
25 Jan 2008 03:50:41 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
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Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then engaged in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
26 Jan 2008 02:30:14 AM |
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(Kenny McCormack) wrote:
=A0I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but the point he was
making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what
happens when everybody stands around and expects
someone else to do something".
You're being generous.
He clearly thinks America is no different than Nazi Germany,
and unless the sheep elect him all the secularists & atheists
are going to keep America just like Nazi Germany.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
26 Jan 2008 01:40:37 AM |
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In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
(Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then engaged in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
26 Jan 2008 03:00:01 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then engaged in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
27 Jan 2008 01:31:02 AM |
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In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then engaged in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you have?
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
27 Jan 2008 01:39:54 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then engaged in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you have?
A contortionist Jesus?
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
27 Jan 2008 11:26:28 PM |
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In article <d9dop35f75vhohf3gdhqv1d7ar2r2a1aps@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then engaged
in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are
Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you have?
A contortionist Jesus?
Pretzel Christ!
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
28 Jan 2008 12:45:04 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:26:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d9dop35f75vhohf3gdhqv1d7ar2r2a1aps@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then engaged
in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are
Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you have?
A contortionist Jesus?
Pretzel Christ!
Praise Mayonnaise!
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
28 Jan 2008 11:39:45 PM |
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In article <0fuqp3t4bcqfqd45lv6g7f9lnb0v5kgefe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:26:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d9dop35f75vhohf3gdhqv1d7ar2r2a1aps@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in
an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany.
He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ"
and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding
"do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers
to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then
engaged
in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust
Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but
the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the
Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do
something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are
Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those
that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and
those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you have?
A contortionist Jesus?
Pretzel Christ!
Praise Mayonnaise!
On pretzels? Heretic!
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
29 Jan 2008 12:45:51 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:39:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <0fuqp3t4bcqfqd45lv6g7f9lnb0v5kgefe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:26:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d9dop35f75vhohf3gdhqv1d7ar2r2a1aps@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in
an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany.
He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ"
and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding
"do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers
to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then
engaged
in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust
Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but
the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the
Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do
something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are
Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those
that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and
those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you have?
A contortionist Jesus?
Pretzel Christ!
Praise Mayonnaise!
On pretzels? Heretic!
That comment is just not Kosher.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
29 Jan 2008 11:28:29 PM |
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In article <dritp35grujk9qgpbvtvntdeh7vds96t74@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:39:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <0fuqp3t4bcqfqd45lv6g7f9lnb0v5kgefe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:26:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d9dop35f75vhohf3gdhqv1d7ar2r2a1aps@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which
in
an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi
Germany.
He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to
Christ"
and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future,"
adding
"do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the
unbelievers
to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then
engaged
in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust
Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why
didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy,
but
the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the
Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do
something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars
are
Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state
of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those
that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and
those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on
lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by
force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you have?
A contortionist Jesus?
Pretzel Christ!
Praise Mayonnaise!
On pretzels? Heretic!
That comment is just not Kosher.
Soft pretzels with mustard.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
30 Jan 2008 12:56:09 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9FF6E3.21282929012008@news.giganews.com...
In article <dritp35grujk9qgpbvtvntdeh7vds96t74@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:39:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <0fuqp3t4bcqfqd45lv6g7f9lnb0v5kgefe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:26:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d9dop35f75vhohf3gdhqv1d7ar2r2a1aps@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article
<jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night,
which
in
an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi
Germany.
He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to
Christ"
and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future,"
adding
"do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the
unbelievers
to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He
then
engaged
in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli
Holocaust
Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why
didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially,
"Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the
guy,
but
the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like)
the
Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what
happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do
something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the
seculars
are
Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the
state
of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling
Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least
those
that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of
"seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee
and
those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like
Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on
lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept
in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by
force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just
take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you
have?
A contortionist Jesus?
Pretzel Christ!
Praise Mayonnaise!
On pretzels? Heretic!
That comment is just not Kosher.
Soft pretzels with mustard.
Philadelphia votes YUM!
--
John #1782
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
30 Jan 2008 01:37:43 AM |
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In article <9f-dncoVfNwcgj3anZ2dnUVZ_oOnnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9FF6E3.21282929012008@news.giganews.com...
In article <dritp35grujk9qgpbvtvntdeh7vds96t74@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:39:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <0fuqp3t4bcqfqd45lv6g7f9lnb0v5kgefe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:26:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d9dop35f75vhohf3gdhqv1d7ar2r2a1aps@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article
<jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night,
which
in
an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi
Germany.
He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to
Christ"
and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future,"
adding
"do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the
unbelievers
to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He
then
engaged
in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli
Holocaust
Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why
didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially,
"Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the
guy,
but
the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like)
the
Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what
happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do
something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the
seculars
are
Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the
state
of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling
Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least
those
that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of
"seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee
and
those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like
Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on
lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept
in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by
force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just
take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you
have?
A contortionist Jesus?
Pretzel Christ!
Praise Mayonnaise!
On pretzels? Heretic!
That comment is just not Kosher.
Soft pretzels with mustard.
Philadelphia votes YUM!
New York too. I wish I could find a decent pretzel in San Diego.
--
John #1782
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
30 Jan 2008 12:45:03 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:28:29 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <dritp35grujk9qgpbvtvntdeh7vds96t74@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:39:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <0fuqp3t4bcqfqd45lv6g7f9lnb0v5kgefe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:26:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d9dop35f75vhohf3gdhqv1d7ar2r2a1aps@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which
in
an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi
Germany.
He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to
Christ"
and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future,"
adding
"do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the
unbelievers
to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then
engaged
in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust
Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why
didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy,
but
the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the
Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do
something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars
are
Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state
of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those
that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and
those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on
lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by
force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you have?
A contortionist Jesus?
Pretzel Christ!
Praise Mayonnaise!
On pretzels? Heretic!
That comment is just not Kosher.
Soft pretzels with mustard.
Alright, already!
Vot is it wid you Goys?
Pretzels, schmetzels.
Jesus vas a Jew, you are knovink, already?
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
30 Jan 2008 01:38:41 AM |
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In article <8370q3h97sp1fiaefiqul7vcc9th12s7f5@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:28:29 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <dritp35grujk9qgpbvtvntdeh7vds96t74@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:39:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <0fuqp3t4bcqfqd45lv6g7f9lnb0v5kgefe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:26:28 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d9dop35f75vhohf3gdhqv1d7ar2r2a1aps@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article
<jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night,
which
in
an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi
Germany.
He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to
Christ"
and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future,"
adding
"do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the
unbelievers
to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then
engaged
in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust
Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why
didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially,
"Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy,
but
the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the
Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what
happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do
something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars
are
Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the
state
of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling
Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least
those
that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of
"seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee
and
those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like
Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on
lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept
in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by
force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just
take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you
have?
A contortionist Jesus?
Pretzel Christ!
Praise Mayonnaise!
On pretzels? Heretic!
That comment is just not Kosher.
Soft pretzels with mustard.
Alright, already!
Vot is it wid you Goys?
Pretzels, schmetzels.
Jesus vas a Jew, you are knovink, already?
If he existed, I'll bet he would have liked pretzels too. :-)
--
John #1782
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| User: "Don Martin" |
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27 Jan 2008 06:36:33 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:09:54 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <nhtlp3prg4hbh4q5js1cp2k0rnv6dd1uk6@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fncbdg$n56$1@news.xmission.com>,
gazelle@xmission.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012008@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then engaged in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do something".
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are Nazis.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
I don't know. I read it the other way. He is saying that the state of
the country is due to the "seculars" the country is resembling Nazi
Germany. What he fails to see is that the freedoms, at least those that
we still enjoy, are due in large part to the actions of "seculars",
Jefferson, Madison, and Washington come to mind, and Huckabee and those
who support him want to turn the country into a Nazi like Christian
theocracy.
Does he not wish to turn it into a mad-house, full of impossible
contradictions with regard to reality?
You, not a long way from Nazi Germany.
Only on the other side of the dividing line.
The comparisons are all too real. Huckabee wants a system based on lies,
insane ideologies, and perverted science, with it's citizens kept in
check by fear, terror, and brainwashing, and imposing it's will by force
on other societies around the world. It's not too different. Just take
their cross, bent the four arms and right angles and what do you have?
A contortionist Jesus?
If he hasn't had the practice, that's gotta hoit.
aa #2278 If you can't be a dirty old man, what is the point of being an old man?
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
26 Jan 2008 09:23:02 AM |
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On Jan 25, 1:50=A0am, (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:
In article <jhachmann-A2841B.00114525012...@news.giganews.com>,
johac =A0<jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
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Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner =A0 Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
we expect the seculars [sic] to do it? Do we expect the unbelievers to
lead us, and if so, how will they lead us and where?" He then engaged in
an extended description of his visit to the Israeli Holocaust Memorial
Yad Vashem with his 11- year-old daughter, who asked, "why didn't
somebody do something?"
Um, I don't really think this assertion (essentially, "Godwin"ing
Huckabee) is fair/true. =A0I'm certainly no defender of the guy, but the
point he was making was not that "the seculars" are (like) the Nazis.
Rather, he was trying to generalize the idea of "See what happens
when everybody stands around and expects someone else to do something".
I assume Huckabee means that the seculars/unbelievers are the ones
performing the abortions. The ones who aren't doing anything would be
the believers. He compared this to what happened when everyone stood
by while the Nazis murdered the Jews. Not only is he comparing America
to Nazi Germany, he is comparing the secular/unbelievers to the Nazis
themselves.
Nowhere in the article did I see Huck saying that the seculars are Nazis.
Read it again. He was referring to his visit to the Israeli Holocaust
Memorial Yad Vashem. Ironically, his solution to the problem sounds a
lot like a typical totalitarian (fascist, communist, theocracy)
solution: "He first implored the audience to renew their "commitment
to Christ" and "to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its
future..." In other words, give up your body and mind to the state.
It's a slippery slope; eventually you'll be executed for thought
crimes.
This concept/idea comes up in every area of life.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
25 Jan 2008 04:09:15 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
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Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
In a way, he is quite correct.
Think about it, and the Bush connection,
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
26 Jan 2008 01:33:37 AM |
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In article <t8djp3lmt5dhnimi39ic2i16mu8rmlgm8g@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
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Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
In a way, he is quite correct.
Think about it, and the Bush connection,
Yep. With what is going down in the US today, we are getting very close,
if we're not there already.
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John #1782
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
26 Jan 2008 04:48:29 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-D04416.23333725012008@news.giganews.com...
In article <t8djp3lmt5dhnimi39ic2i16mu8rmlgm8g@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
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Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
In a way, he is quite correct.
Think about it, and the Bush connection,
Yep. With what is going down in the US today, we are getting very close,
if we're not there already.
--
John #1782
Here's some food for thought:
Scenario: The economy really hits the skids. Huckabee or an independent with
the same mind-set becomes President. People lose their jobs and homes in
droves. What does the Jesus-lovin', God adorin' President do? Why throw
loads of government money at religious right evangelical churches as part of
an 'emergency', faith-based, initiative to, in turn, help tend to the needs
of those now destitute Americans with the assurance it is 'God' and that
'Son' of his, 'God' who are the ones *really* looking out for their well
being. And in appreciation of and for this 'loving God's' generosity and
'blessings' the government *really* ratchets up the need for 'God's people'
to fill the most important posts throughout the country so that more
Americans can 'enjoy' the 'love' the Almighty (and that 'Son' of his, 'God')
has for them.
Makes *me* want to just rip off my clothes and run into the woods and love
Jesus, I'll tell ya!
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhre . . . uh . . . President!
Greywolf
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
27 Jan 2008 01:42:46 AM |
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In article <13pm40623h94q80@news.supernews.com>,
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-D04416.23333725012008@news.giganews.com...
In article <t8djp3lmt5dhnimi39ic2i16mu8rmlgm8g@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
In a way, he is quite correct.
Think about it, and the Bush connection,
Yep. With what is going down in the US today, we are getting very close,
if we're not there already.
--
John #1782
Here's some food for thought:
Scenario: The economy really hits the skids. Huckabee or an independent with
the same mind-set becomes President. People lose their jobs and homes in
droves. What does the Jesus-lovin', God adorin' President do? Why throw
loads of government money at religious right evangelical churches as part of
an 'emergency', faith-based, initiative to, in turn, help tend to the needs
of those now destitute Americans with the assurance it is 'God' and that
'Son' of his, 'God' who are the ones *really* looking out for their well
being. And in appreciation of and for this 'loving God's' generosity and
'blessings' the government *really* ratchets up the need for 'God's people'
to fill the most important posts throughout the country so that more
Americans can 'enjoy' the 'love' the Almighty (and that 'Son' of his, 'God')
has for them.
Yep. And I'm sure that there will be a new Department of Religion
Cabinet position and the DOJ will change its name to Bureau for the
Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice.
Makes *me* want to just rip off my clothes and run into the woods and love
Jesus, I'll tell ya!
We won't have to wory about going to hell. We'll be living in it.
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhre . . . uh . . . President!
Heil Huckabee does sound sort of dumb. He'll have to change his name
just like a certain Mr. Schickelgruber did.
Greywolf
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John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
26 Jan 2008 05:02:36 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:48:29 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-D04416.23333725012008@news.giganews.com...
In article <t8djp3lmt5dhnimi39ic2i16mu8rmlgm8g@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
In a way, he is quite correct.
Think about it, and the Bush connection,
Yep. With what is going down in the US today, we are getting very close,
if we're not there already.
--
John #1782
Here's some food for thought:
Scenario: The economy really hits the skids. Huckabee or an independent with
the same mind-set becomes President. People lose their jobs and homes in
droves. What does the Jesus-lovin', God adorin' President do? Why throw
loads of government money at religious right evangelical churches as part of
an 'emergency', faith-based, initiative to, in turn, help tend to the needs
of those now destitute Americans with the assurance it is 'God' and that
'Son' of his, 'God' who are the ones *really* looking out for their well
being. And in appreciation of and for this 'loving God's' generosity and
'blessings' the government *really* ratchets up the need for 'God's people'
to fill the most important posts throughout the country so that more
Americans can 'enjoy' the 'love' the Almighty (and that 'Son' of his, 'God')
has for them.
Makes *me* want to just rip off my clothes and run into the woods and love
Jesus, I'll tell ya!
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhre . . . uh . . . President!
Greywolf
"Pray" for the Omega Man.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
26 Jan 2008 03:01:16 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:33:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <t8djp3lmt5dhnimi39ic2i16mu8rmlgm8g@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
In a way, he is quite correct.
Think about it, and the Bush connection,
Yep. With what is going down in the US today, we are getting very close,
if we're not there already.
Roll on Hillary!
Ooops. She is just as bad a Nazi.
Hush my mouth.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
27 Jan 2008 01:49:59 AM |
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In article <kltlp31ahs0h8jvv2chu9065j0ed65uqei@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:33:37 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <t8djp3lmt5dhnimi39ic2i16mu8rmlgm8g@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
In a way, he is quite correct.
Think about it, and the Bush connection,
Yep. With what is going down in the US today, we are getting very close,
if we're not there already.
Roll on Hillary!
Ooops. She is just as bad a Nazi.
Hush my mouth.
I think anyone running would be be better than the Huckster. Well, maybe
not Giuliani . He's a thug, but at least he's not a religious nut.
--
John #1782
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
25 Jan 2008 07:06:32 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
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Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
Good comparison. Unfortunately, Huckabee has it exactly wrong. America
is like it is because it *isn't* like Nazi Germany and what Huckabee wants
is for america to become a christian natian like Nazi Germany.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
26 Jan 2008 01:31:59 AM |
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In article <slrnfpjnmo.ddc.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
Good comparison. Unfortunately, Huckabee has it exactly wrong. America
is like it is because it *isn't* like Nazi Germany and what Huckabee wants
is for america to become a christian natian like Nazi Germany.
Exactly. Some of his buddies and big supporters are Dominionists, who
want nothing less than to turn America into the Christian version of
Iran. No doubt the Christofascists will replace the swastika with the
Latin cross on their armbands and flag.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
26 Jan 2008 03:02:04 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:31:59 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <slrnfpjnmo.ddc.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
Good comparison. Unfortunately, Huckabee has it exactly wrong. America
is like it is because it *isn't* like Nazi Germany and what Huckabee wants
is for america to become a christian natian like Nazi Germany.
Exactly. Some of his buddies and big supporters are Dominionists, who
want nothing less than to turn America into the Christian version of
Iran. No doubt the Christofascists will replace the swastika with the
Latin cross on their armbands and flag.
The KKK should put a contract on him for stealing their schtick!
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany |
27 Jan 2008 01:51:14 AM |
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In article <antlp35cp2l0idu62jr5crgs2us5817dvm@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:31:59 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <slrnfpjnmo.ddc.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
---
Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
Good comparison. Unfortunately, Huckabee has it exactly wrong. America
is like it is because it *isn't* like Nazi Germany and what Huckabee wants
is for america to become a christian natian like Nazi Germany.
Exactly. Some of his buddies and big supporters are Dominionists, who
want nothing less than to turn America into the Christian version of
Iran. No doubt the Christofascists will replace the swastika with the
Latin cross on their armbands and flag.
The KKK should put a contract on him for stealing their schtick!
Or at least make him wear a sheet if he's going to act like them.
--
John #1782
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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26 Jan 2008 08:21:58 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:32:04 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:31:59 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <slrnfpjnmo.ddc.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0800, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
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Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project Monday night, which in an
unprecedented move was live streamed on the American Family
Association's Web site, Huckabee compared America to Nazi Germany. He
first implored the audience to renew their "commitment to Christ" and
"to our nation, to its heritage, as well as to its future," adding "do
Good comparison. Unfortunately, Huckabee has it exactly wrong. America
is like it is because it *isn't* like Nazi Germany and what Huckabee wants
is for america to become a christian natian like Nazi Germany.
Exactly. Some of his buddies and big supporters are Dominionists, who
want nothing less than to turn America into the Christian version of
Iran. No doubt the Christofascists will replace the swastika with the
Latin cross on their armbands and flag.
The KKK should put a contract on him for stealing their schtick!
Maybe huckabee could help the KKK freshen up their schtick and get some
new groups of people to wage terrorism upon. s/negroes/arabs+homosexuals.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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27 Jan 2008 08:33:34 AM |
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On Jan 25, 2:11 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As if we didn't know already that Huckabee was a nutcase.
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Huckabee Compares America to Nazi Germany
By Sarah Posner Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:40:44 PM EST
In a speech to the Florida Renewal Project | |
