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"J Young" |
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18 Mar 2007 03:55:44 PM |
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Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
That this barbaric procedure of intentionally murdering a scientifically
created baby is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=23417
MELBOURNE, Australia (Catholic Online) - The creation and then destruction
of human life for scientific research is "always unethical," said an
Australian archbishop, decrying legislative moves to legalize cloning of
human embryos.
In a March 13 statement made just before an evening introduction of
Australian state legislation to change the Infertility Treatment Act,
Archbishop Denis Hart of Melbourne called for the government to resist
strongly any efforts to allow therapeutic cloning and to urge a vigorous
debate on the issue.
The bill introduced by the Victoria state parliament of Catholic Premier
Steve Bracks in parliament aims to allow the creation of embryos for the
purpose of harvesting stem cells by bringing the state in line with recent
changes to Australian federal law. Victoria is the nation's first state to
introduce the measure, after a similar bill was passed through federal
Parliament last December.
A conscience vote will be scheduled for April.
Under the proposed legislation, researchers would be allowed to clone human
embryos for medical research through somatic cell nuclear transfer, commonly
known as therapeutic cloning. But researchers would not be allowed to merge
an egg with sperm to create an embryo. The embryo, after the harvesting is
completed, is then destroyed.
"A very serious ethical debate would need to be conducted in the community,"
the archbishop said, noting that "there are issues of enormous importance at
stake here."
"To allow human embroyos to be deliberately created and then destroyed for
scientfic research is always unethical," he stressed.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Catholicism "always unethical" |
19 Mar 2007 12:02:50 AM |
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In article <1174251469_12957@sp6iad.superfeed.net>,
says...
That this barbaric procedure
Yes and that procedure is known as Roman Catholicism. It lobotomizes
people like JYoung, who didn't have much going for them to begin with.
But now they're totally worthless wastoid christdroids.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 04:08:58 PM |
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In article <1174251469_12957@sp6iad.superfeed.net>,
says...
That this barbaric procedure of intentionally murdering
It's clearly redundant to speak of "intentionally murdering".
Murder(verb): "Kill intentionally and with premeditation"
a scientifically
created baby
It's not a baby, but a several day old blastocyst, you stupid *****.
is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
If god doesn't like it them tell him to bring his almighty ***** down here
and stop us, biatch. Until then, God (and you) can kiss my skinny, white
*****.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Carlos Ivo" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 04:23:10 PM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.206758588f25aab8989eaa@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <1174251469_12957@sp6iad.superfeed.net>,
says...
That this barbaric procedure of intentionally murdering
It's clearly redundant to speak of "intentionally murdering".
Murder(verb): "Kill intentionally and with premeditation"
a scientifically
created baby
It's not a baby, but a several day old blastocyst, you stupid *****.
is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
If god doesn't like it them tell him to bring his almighty ***** down here
and stop us, biatch. Until then, God (and you) can kiss my skinny, white
*****.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
Quote
"That this barbaric procedure of intentionally murdering|"
End.
Not as barbaric as the Inquisition was during the dark ages.
Not you nor any Christian should not be talking about "barbaric acts".
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 04:33:34 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:08:58 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's not a baby, but a several day old blastocyst, you stupid *****.
Now, now quib. you of all people should be careful with those big words. Even
one such as you that possesses minimal intellectual capacity knows that the baby
will not become a dog.
is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
If god doesn't like it them tell him to bring his almighty ***** down here
and stop us, biatch. Until then, God (and you) can kiss my skinny, white
*****.
God will take care of you in his own time.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 04:50:46 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ttbrv2hcjdtfc81j3io29dt5ep9jao40b2@4ax.com...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:08:58 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It's not a baby, but a several day old blastocyst, you stupid *****.
Now, now quib. you of all people should be careful with those big words.
Even
one such as you that possesses minimal intellectual capacity knows that
the baby
will not become a dog.
is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
If god doesn't like it them tell him to bring his almighty ***** down here
and stop us, biatch. Until then, God (and you) can kiss my skinny, white
*****.
God will take care of you in his own time.
OMG...we are so scared of your sky fairy. He can't get retribution now
(omnipotent ain't what it used to be), so he has to wait until we're worm
food. Fucking impressive.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 07:42:21 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ttbrv2hcjdtfc81j3io29dt5ep9jao40b2@4ax.com...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:08:58 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It's not a baby, but a several day old blastocyst, you stupid *****.
Now, now quib. you of all people should be careful with those big words.
Even
one such as you that possesses minimal intellectual capacity knows that
the baby
will not become a dog.
And that Puke will never become even slightly intelligent.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 05:34:40 PM |
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In article <ttbrv2hcjdtfc81j3io29dt5ep9jao40b2@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:08:58 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's not a baby, but a several day old blastocyst, you stupid *****.
Now, now quib. you of all people should be careful with those big words.
I know they confuse you, you fucking moron.
Even
one such as you that possesses minimal intellectual capacity knows that the baby
will not become a dog.
It will if it's a dog embryo, you stupid *****. But let apply
your illogic to the real world. If a stack of bricks could be put
together into a house then you're saying that we have to consider the
stack of bricks to be the same as an actual, fully-constructed house.
is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
If god doesn't like it them tell him to bring his almighty ***** down here
and stop us, biatch. Until then, God (and you) can kiss my skinny, white
*****.
God will take care of you in his own time.
Tell the ***** to hurry. It's been 2000 years. He had his chance. He
lost.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 04:41:54 PM |
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On 18 Mrz., 22:33, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:08:58 -0700, quibbler <quibbler...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's not a baby, but a several day old blastocyst, you stupid *****.
Now, now quib. you of all people should be careful with those big words. Even
one such as you that possesses minimal intellectual capacity knows that the baby
will not become a dog.
Does it hurt to be *that* stupid?
Can't you read? It isn't a baby, moron...
is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
If god doesn't like it them tell him to bring his almighty ***** down here
and stop us, biatch. Until then, God (and you) can kiss my skinny, white
*****.
God will take care of you in his own time.
1- there is no god
2- meanwhile, we take care of you... enjoy!
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| User: "Attila" |
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18 Mar 2007 05:22:01 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:33:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<ttbrv2hcjdtfc81j3io29dt5ep9jao40b2@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:08:58 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's not a baby, but a several day old blastocyst, you stupid *****.
Now, now quib. you of all people should be careful with those big words. Even
one such as you that possesses minimal intellectual capacity knows that the baby
will not become a dog.
No baby exists prior to live birth.
is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
If god doesn't like it them tell him to bring his almighty ***** down here
and stop us, biatch. Until then, God (and you) can kiss my skinny, white
*****.
God will take care of you in his own time.
Prove any god exists.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
19 Mar 2007 04:09:04 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:08:58 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's not a baby, but a several day old blastocyst, you stupid *****.
Now, now quib. you of all people should be careful with those big words. Even
one such as you that possesses minimal intellectual capacity knows that the baby
will not become a dog.
is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
If god doesn't like it them tell him to bring his almighty ***** down here
and stop us, biatch. Until then, God (and you) can kiss my skinny, white
*****.
God will take care of you in his own time.
ROFL
2007 years is an awfully poignant indicator that your god thingy ain't even there!
Bob
"The idea of God implies the abdication of human reason and justice; it is
the most decisive negation of human liberty and necessarily ends in the
enslavement of mankind both in theory and practice. He who desires to
worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter but bravely
renounce his liberty and humanity."
[Mikhail Bakunin]
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 08:10:16 PM |
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in article ttbrv2hcjdtfc81j3io29dt5ep9jao40b2@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 3/18/07 5:33 PM:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:08:58 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's not a baby, but a several day old blastocyst, you stupid *****.
Now, now quib. you of all people should be careful with those big words. Even
one such as you that possesses minimal intellectual capacity knows that the
baby
will not become a dog.
is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
If god doesn't like it them tell him to bring his almighty ***** down here
and stop us, biatch. Until then, God (and you) can kiss my skinny, white
*****.
God will take care of you in his own time.
Says a man for whom God is STILL taking His sweet time to care
for...
Paul
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 04:31:53 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
That this barbaric procedure of intentionally murdering a scientifically
More hatred and lies from a fascist.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
19 Mar 2007 04:05:03 AM |
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J Young wrote:
That this barbaric procedure of intentionally murdering a scientifically
created baby is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
Religious bigots coughed up similar arguments about the first heart transplant and
before that the use of chloroform to perform pain free operations. Forgetting
conveniently, of course, those human fetus that are so grossly deformed the parents
never get to see it [about one in every 400,000 births] that your god created, or are
these monstrosities simply an aberration of the evolutionary process that causes so
many similar natural abnormalities in the animal kingdom, such as J. Young ?
I know where I would put my money !
Bob Young
From the bright side of the family
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=23417
MELBOURNE, Australia (Catholic Online) - The creation and then destruction
of human life for scientific research is "always unethical," said an
Australian archbishop, decrying legislative moves to legalize cloning of
human embryos.
In a March 13 statement made just before an evening introduction of
Australian state legislation to change the Infertility Treatment Act,
Archbishop Denis Hart of Melbourne called for the government to resist
strongly any efforts to allow therapeutic cloning and to urge a vigorous
debate on the issue.
The bill introduced by the Victoria state parliament of Catholic Premier
Steve Bracks in parliament aims to allow the creation of embryos for the
purpose of harvesting stem cells by bringing the state in line with recent
changes to Australian federal law. Victoria is the nation's first state to
introduce the measure, after a similar bill was passed through federal
Parliament last December.
A conscience vote will be scheduled for April.
Under the proposed legislation, researchers would be allowed to clone human
embryos for medical research through somatic cell nuclear transfer, commonly
known as therapeutic cloning. But researchers would not be allowed to merge
an egg with sperm to create an embryo. The embryo, after the harvesting is
completed, is then destroyed.
"A very serious ethical debate would need to be conducted in the community,"
the archbishop said, noting that "there are issues of enormous importance at
stake here."
"To allow human embroyos to be deliberately created and then destroyed for
scientfic research is always unethical," he stressed.
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| User: "Andres64" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 04:40:34 PM |
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On Mar 18, 4:55 pm, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
That this barbaric procedure of intentionally murdering a scientifically
created baby is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=23417
....snip...
You do realize that your god kills 2,000,000 "children" every year in
the US alone through miscarriage, don't you?
"Each year there are approximately 4 million births in the U.S."
http://www.susps.org/overview/birthrates.html
"One out of every three women age 18-45 has experienced a reproductive
loss. Women experiencing miscarriage often receive no explanation for
the cause of their miscarriage."
http://www.sdfertility.com/miscarriage.htm
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Human cloning is 'always unethical,' |
18 Mar 2007 08:07:38 PM |
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in article 1174251469_12957@sp6iad.superfeed.net, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 3/18/07 4:55 PM:
That this barbaric procedure of intentionally murdering a scientifically
created baby is being discussed, is in itself revolting. Abrogate human
cloning experiments now and forever.
And what do you pretend God will do for you now and forever in
return?
Paul
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