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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"Precision"
Date:	23 Mar 2005 05:11:57 AM
Object:	Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue

"With surprising and mysterious regularity, life on Earth has flourished and
vanished in cycles of mass extinction every 62 million years, say two UC
Berkeley scientists who discovered the pattern after a painstaking computer
study of fossil records going back for more than 500 million years."
(http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/03/10/MNGFIBN6PO1.DTL&type=science)
The news article "Mass extinction comes every 62 million years, UC
physicists discover" points out an obvious and yet startling truth: the
extinction of the dominant species of intelligent life on this planet is 3
million years overdue.
The article with all its shocking statistics and the sobering realization
that we could become as extinct as the dinosaur, fails to make one important
point: our only hope for survival is extra-terrestrial intervention.
Advanced technologies of extra-terrestrial origin could preserve all life on
this planet indefinitely.
One thing is certain and that is without any intervention at all the
impending extinction of all life on this planet is statistically 3 million
years overdue. Perhaps the prescient comfort of an age old prophesy says it
best:
(1 Thessalonians 5:2-4) 2 For YOU yourselves know quite well that Jehovah's
day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they
are saying: "Peace and security!" then sudden destruction is to be instantly
upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will
by no means escape. 4 But YOU, brothers, YOU are not in darkness, so that
day should overtake YOU as it would thieves. . .
We know that modern physics doesn't preclude advanced extra-terrestrial
intelligence from access to this planet from anywhere else in the known
universe. It is only a matter of time before physics discovers laws that
could point to an INFINITELY advanced extra-terrestrial intelligence
exerting omnipotent powers over space and time that exists outside the known
universe. Such a highly advanced intelligence is known and worshipped by the
world's religions as God.
I shall not digress into a debate into which religion understands the true
nature of this vast intelligence, God. Rather I will present the question on
everyone's minds: will the intelligence that truly is God consider humanity
worthy of salvation? The dinosaurs failed. Why should we succeed? The age
old question proposed by the world's most historically controversial
religious elder some 2 millenniums ago is more relevant than ever before:
"when the Son of man arrives, will he really find the faith on the earth?"
(Luke 18:8)
The preservation of all life on Earth may depend upon the answer to that
question. Will we prove to be like the dinosaurs, simply acting on base
instinct without a higher moral and spiritual conscience and consciousness?
If so then why are we any better than the dinosaur? Why do we deserve to
live forever and for that matter, why would we want to live forever?
The depth of intelligence combined with moral and spiritual conscience and
consciousness is a unique quality to humans. Unlike the dinosaurs we not
only reach for the stars but we yearn for the very purpose of our existence
in the infinite cosmos! Our destiny is to continue to grow, mature and reach
new heights in intelligence, spirituality and a connection with God that is
a feeling that can only be described as love. Those who rise to this
challenge will live on this world until God says it is time to move on.
Because of our unbounded FAITH we can live forever. No more extinctions are
necessary for life on Earth.
For further information on the destiny of humans and this planet, I highly
recommend a thorough reading of the entire Bible. Learn the truth about
human history from its beginning to eternal future. This is one book that
has been neglected even though its timeless wisdom can only point to its
origin from the most advanced extra-terrestrial intelligence that we could
possibly imagine.
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User: "~~~ }"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	23 Mar 2005 11:15:54 AM

"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message
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| "With surprising and mysterious regularity, life on Earth has flourished
and
| vanished in cycles of mass extinction every 62 million years, say two UC
| Berkeley scientists who discovered the pattern after a painstaking
computer
| study of fossil records going back for more than 500 million years."
|
(http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/03/10/MNGFIBN6PO1.DTL&typ
e=science)
## Odd you should post this here since the JWs claim the world is no older
than 70,000 years. Did your GB get some "new light" from the spirit realm
on the subject? Remember the "One day to Jehovah is as 1000 years"
scenario?
| The news article "Mass extinction comes every 62 million years, UC
| physicists discover" points out an obvious and yet startling truth: the
| extinction of the dominant species of intelligent life on this planet is 3
| million years overdue.
|
| The article with all its shocking statistics and the sobering realization
| that we could become as extinct as the dinosaur, fails to make one
important
| point: our only hope for survival is extra-terrestrial intervention.
| Advanced technologies of extra-terrestrial origin could preserve all life
on
| this planet indefinitely.
## LOL!!! You're reading too many sci-fi mags again. :-)))
| One thing is certain and that is without any intervention at all the
| impending extinction of all life on this planet is statistically 3 million
| years overdue. Perhaps the prescient comfort of an age old prophesy says
it
| best:
========== Religious blather snipped!
--
CR....
Here you will find clinical studies proving that the Jehovah's Witnesses
exhibit rates of mental illness between four and forty times the average
for the population at large:
http://google.com/groups?selm=D3J0QI5Z38234.4565046296@anonymous.poster
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User: "Daniel Kolle"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 08:39:12 PM

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:11:57 -0800, "Precision" <precision@Usenet.com>
thought hard and said:
<snip>
BUT, we have existed only for six-thousand years!
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 17 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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User: "Precision"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	25 Mar 2005 06:10:52 PM

"Daniel Kolle" <Daniel.Kolle@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:11:57 -0800, "Precision" <precision@Usenet.com>
thought hard and said:

<snip>

BUT, we have existed only for six-thousand years!

You're referring to human life on this planet, I gather?
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User: "Sam"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	25 Mar 2005 06:43:36 PM

Precision wrote:

"Daniel Kolle" <Daniel.Kolle@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:11:57 -0800, "Precision" <precision@Usenet.com>
thought hard and said:

<snip>

BUT, we have existed only for six-thousand years!

You're referring to human life on this planet, I gather?

sounds like the reference is to the jewish calendar
--
Sam
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User: "satyr"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	23 Mar 2005 07:23:39 PM

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:11:57 -0800, "Precision" <precision@Usenet.com>
wrote:

Will we prove to be like the dinosaurs, simply acting on base
instinct without a higher moral and spiritual conscience and consciousness?
If so then why are we any better than the dinosaur? Why do we deserve to
live forever and for that matter, why would we want to live forever?

So... you're saying that if the dinosaurs had found Jesus they
wouldn't have gone extinct?
Maybe they did find Jesus and they all got raptured.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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User: "Vic Sagerquist"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	23 Mar 2005 01:24:04 PM

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
<snip>
Well, this started out interesting, but quickly fell apart as it lead to
this:

For further information on the destiny of humans and this planet, I
highly recommend a thorough reading of the entire Bible. Learn the
truth about human history from its beginning to eternal future. This
is one book that has been neglected even though its timeless wisdom
can only point to its origin from the most advanced extra-terrestrial
intelligence that we could possibly imagine.

Gobbledygook. The bible is a book of fables and mythology. Granted it
does contain some historical characters, but it is mixed with a teeming
pile of magical garbage that has no bearing on modern society. However, I
hope a lot of people take your advice and read the bible thoroughly. The
bible is one of the greatest reasons to deconvert to atheism ever.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.

User: "Precision"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	23 Mar 2005 04:32:48 PM

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962273EC93EE1vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:

<snip>

Well, this started out interesting, but quickly fell apart as it lead to
this:

I respectfully reply that you are completely mistaken. The Bible is a
blueprint for eternal life. Those whose lives it has changed will attest to
that fact. However, the Bible contains truths that you might find
unpalatable. We fear what we do not understand. Nonetheless I strongly
disagree that the Bible is "one of the greatest reasons to reconvert to
atheism ever." I know, because reading the Bible raised my awareness of
greater realities in space and time, gave me the sure knowledge that this
life is the beginning of a remarkable journey that will last many
eternities, and "converted" me from atheism to the truth that God does
exist.
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User: "~~~ }"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	23 Mar 2005 05:25:59 PM

"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message
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I respectfully reply that you are completely mistaken. The Bible is a
blueprint for eternal life.

## Yawn.....
Those whose lives it has changed will attest to

that fact.

## Yep, just ask all the people who joined the Watchtower/JWs and lost their
family's, their spouses, their children... and more.
However, the Bible contains truths that you might find

unpalatable.

## yeah, like your Jehovah slaughtering 43 children for teasing an old man,
he had his pet humans perform the first act of genocide on earth.... truly
an unpalatable god.
We fear what we do not understand.
## Speak for yourself.
Nonetheless I strongly

disagree that the Bible is "one of the greatest reasons to reconvert to
atheism ever."

## It is - when you read it from front to back and not just hand-picked
scripture.
I know, because reading the Bible raised my awareness of

greater realities in space and time,

## Really?
gave me the sure knowledge that this

life is the beginning of a remarkable journey that will last many
eternities, and "converted" me from atheism to the truth that God does
exist.

## Right, you went from a normal person to a superstitious fearful wimp
serving the WTS/GB all because you read the bible...
--
CR.....
Here you will find clinical studies proving that the Jehovah's Witnesses
exhibit rates of mental illness between four and forty times the average
for the population at large:
http://google.com/groups?selm=D3J0QI5Z38234.4565046296@anonymous.poster
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User: "William T. Goat"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 12:06:04 AM

Precision wrote:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962273EC93EE1vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted,

whirled,

then shouted:

<snip>

Well, this started out interesting, but quickly fell apart as it

lead to

this:

For further information on the destiny of humans and this planet,

highly recommend a thorough reading of the entire Bible. Learn the
truth about human history from its beginning to eternal future.

This

is one book that has been neglected even though its timeless

wisdom

can only point to its origin from the most advanced

extra-terrestrial

intelligence that we could possibly imagine.

Gobbledygook. The bible is a book of fables and mythology.

Granted it

does contain some historical characters, but it is mixed with a

teeming

pile of magical garbage that has no bearing on modern society.

However, I

hope a lot of people take your advice and read the bible

thoroughly. The

bible is one of the greatest reasons to deconvert to atheism ever.

I respectfully reply that you are completely mistaken. The Bible is a
blueprint for eternal life. Those whose lives it has changed will

attest to

that fact. However, the Bible contains truths that you might find
unpalatable. We fear what we do not understand. Nonetheless I

strongly

disagree that the Bible is "one of the greatest reasons to reconvert

atheism ever." I know, because reading the Bible raised my awareness

greater realities in space and time, gave me the sure knowledge that

this

life is the beginning of a remarkable journey that will last many
eternities, and "converted" me from atheism to the truth that God

does

exist.

The Bible also says that dragons, unicorns, and satyrs exist. Do you
believe that dragons, unicorns, and satyrs exist? Are they "truths"?
Isaiah 43:20 The beasts of the field shall honor me, the dragons and
the ostriches: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in
the desert, to give to drink to my people, my chosen.
Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the
bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and
their dust made fat with fatness.
Isaiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their
houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there,
and satyrs shall dance there.
--Billy
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User: "L Perez"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 12:37:45 AM

"William T. Goat" <ericvonl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1111644364.423123.236660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Precision wrote:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962273EC93EE1vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted,

whirled,

then shouted:

<snip>

Well, this started out interesting, but quickly fell apart as it

lead to

this:

For further information on the destiny of humans and this planet,

highly recommend a thorough reading of the entire Bible. Learn the
truth about human history from its beginning to eternal future.

This

is one book that has been neglected even though its timeless

wisdom

can only point to its origin from the most advanced

extra-terrestrial

intelligence that we could possibly imagine.

Gobbledygook. The bible is a book of fables and mythology.

Granted it

does contain some historical characters, but it is mixed with a

teeming

pile of magical garbage that has no bearing on modern society.

However, I

hope a lot of people take your advice and read the bible

thoroughly. The

bible is one of the greatest reasons to deconvert to atheism ever.

I respectfully reply that you are completely mistaken. The Bible is a

blueprint for eternal life. Those whose lives it has changed will

attest to

that fact. However, the Bible contains truths that you might find
unpalatable. We fear what we do not understand. Nonetheless I

strongly

disagree that the Bible is "one of the greatest reasons to reconvert

atheism ever." I know, because reading the Bible raised my awareness

greater realities in space and time, gave me the sure knowledge that

this

life is the beginning of a remarkable journey that will last many
eternities, and "converted" me from atheism to the truth that God

does

exist.

The Bible also says that dragons, unicorns, and satyrs exist.

no it doesn't

Isaiah 43:20 The beasts of the field shall honor me, the dragons

nope... modern translator/historians render that 'Jackals'

Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns

nope... modern translator/historians render that 'wild Oxen'

Isaiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their
houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there,
and satyrs

nope... modern translator/historians render that 'wild Goats'
but if you insist on using translations that were rendered centuries before
our modern knowledge of translation that has come from archaeological finds
then perhaps you will also be entertaining us with the antiquated use of
'thee' and 'thou' in your posts 'on the morrow'
.

User: "Precision"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 01:52:10 AM

"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"William T. Goat" <ericvonl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1111644364.423123.236660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Precision wrote:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962273EC93EE1vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted,

whirled,

then shouted:

<snip>

Well, this started out interesting, but quickly fell apart as it

lead to

this:

For further information on the destiny of humans and this planet,

highly recommend a thorough reading of the entire Bible. Learn the
truth about human history from its beginning to eternal future.

This

is one book that has been neglected even though its timeless

wisdom

can only point to its origin from the most advanced

extra-terrestrial

intelligence that we could possibly imagine.

Gobbledygook. The bible is a book of fables and mythology.

Granted it

does contain some historical characters, but it is mixed with a

teeming

pile of magical garbage that has no bearing on modern society.

However, I

hope a lot of people take your advice and read the bible

thoroughly. The

bible is one of the greatest reasons to deconvert to atheism ever.

I respectfully reply that you are completely mistaken. The Bible is a

blueprint for eternal life. Those whose lives it has changed will

attest to

that fact. However, the Bible contains truths that you might find
unpalatable. We fear what we do not understand. Nonetheless I

strongly

disagree that the Bible is "one of the greatest reasons to reconvert

atheism ever." I know, because reading the Bible raised my awareness

greater realities in space and time, gave me the sure knowledge that

this

life is the beginning of a remarkable journey that will last many
eternities, and "converted" me from atheism to the truth that God

does

exist.

The Bible also says that dragons, unicorns, and satyrs exist.

no it doesn't

Isaiah 43:20 The beasts of the field shall honor me, the dragons

nope... modern translator/historians render that 'Jackals'

Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns

nope... modern translator/historians render that 'wild Oxen'

Isaiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their
houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there,
and satyrs

nope... modern translator/historians render that 'wild Goats'

but if you insist on using translations that were rendered centuries
before our modern knowledge of translation that has come from
archaeological finds then perhaps you will also be entertaining us with
the antiquated use of 'thee' and 'thou' in your posts 'on the morrow'

Thanks for clarifying those words!
I addressed his point from another perspective. Rather than argue the words,
I tried to make the point that words are meaningless in the context of
modern times. "Unicorns" we know them through myth and legend could be far
different than a creature with a horn that once was believed to have existed
before it was made extinct by merchants who slaughtered it for its horn
(just as elephants are slaughtered for their tusks). The same is true of
"Dragons." These mythical creatures could have indeed existed as a form of
dinosaur (flying like the Pterodactyl) and breathed fire (which scientists
have shown is not out of the realm of biological possibility for ancient
creatures). Of course when we take into account modern translations then we
are further humbled.
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User: "0}}}}}{ ~~~"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 03:03:35 AM

"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message
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I addressed his point from another perspective. Rather than argue the

words,

I tried to make the point that words are meaningless in the context of
modern times. "Unicorns" we know them through myth and legend could be far
different than a creature with a horn that once was believed to have

existed

before it was made extinct by merchants who slaughtered it for its horn
(just as elephants are slaughtered for their tusks). .

===========
And next you'll tell us the stick didn't really turn into a snake, the
donkey didn't really speak, the virgin Mary didn't really get magically
pregnant without a man...etc, etc..... it's all a misunderstanding - right?
CR....
Fine words from a JW on ARJ-W:
"Boydette" <bdetrs@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:12700-424209AF-43@storefull-3217.bay.webtv.net...
I have said time and again that I am NOT a JW yet everytime I use a
profane word you blame it on them...you are a profane individual just by
your existence Carol...OH and BTW go ***** YOURSELF....LOLOLOLOLO
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User: "Vic Sagerquist"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 09:26:12 AM

on 24 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, <0}}}}}>{ ~~~ dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:

"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message
news:42426f77$1_2@127.0.0.1...

I addressed his point from another perspective. Rather than argue the

words,

I tried to make the point that words are meaningless in the context
of modern times. "Unicorns" we know them through myth and legend
could be far different than a creature with a horn that once was
believed to have

existed

before it was made extinct by merchants who slaughtered it for its
horn (just as elephants are slaughtered for their tusks). .

Which, of course, leads to a metaphorical resurrection and return of
jeebus....
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.

User: "Vic Sagerquist"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 09:24:16 AM

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, L Perez dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:

"William T. Goat" <ericvonl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1111644364.423123.236660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Precision wrote:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962273EC93EE1vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted,

whirled,

then shouted:

<snip>

Well, this started out interesting, but quickly fell apart as it

lead to

this:

For further information on the destiny of humans and this planet,

highly recommend a thorough reading of the entire Bible. Learn
the truth about human history from its beginning to eternal
future.

This

is one book that has been neglected even though its timeless

wisdom

can only point to its origin from the most advanced

extra-terrestrial

intelligence that we could possibly imagine.

Gobbledygook. The bible is a book of fables and mythology.

Granted it

does contain some historical characters, but it is mixed with a

teeming

pile of magical garbage that has no bearing on modern society.

However, I

hope a lot of people take your advice and read the bible

thoroughly. The

bible is one of the greatest reasons to deconvert to atheism ever.

I respectfully reply that you are completely mistaken. The Bible is
a

blueprint for eternal life. Those whose lives it has changed will

attest to

that fact. However, the Bible contains truths that you might find
unpalatable. We fear what we do not understand. Nonetheless I

strongly

disagree that the Bible is "one of the greatest reasons to reconvert

atheism ever." I know, because reading the Bible raised my awareness

greater realities in space and time, gave me the sure knowledge that

this

life is the beginning of a remarkable journey that will last many
eternities, and "converted" me from atheism to the truth that God

does

exist.

The Bible also says that dragons, unicorns, and satyrs exist.

no it doesn't

Why did you snip the part where he provides the evidence right out of your
own holy book, you dishonest liar.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.

User: "L Perez"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 01:03:33 PM

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96234B45FE614vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, L Perez dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:

"William T. Goat" <ericvonl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1111644364.423123.236660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Precision wrote:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962273EC93EE1vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted,

whirled,

then shouted:

<snip>

Well, this started out interesting, but quickly fell apart as it

lead to

this:

For further information on the destiny of humans and this planet,

highly recommend a thorough reading of the entire Bible. Learn
the truth about human history from its beginning to eternal
future.

This

is one book that has been neglected even though its timeless

wisdom

can only point to its origin from the most advanced

extra-terrestrial

intelligence that we could possibly imagine.

Gobbledygook. The bible is a book of fables and mythology.

Granted it

does contain some historical characters, but it is mixed with a

teeming

pile of magical garbage that has no bearing on modern society.

However, I

hope a lot of people take your advice and read the bible

thoroughly. The

bible is one of the greatest reasons to deconvert to atheism ever.

I respectfully reply that you are completely mistaken. The Bible is
a

blueprint for eternal life. Those whose lives it has changed will

attest to

that fact. However, the Bible contains truths that you might find
unpalatable. We fear what we do not understand. Nonetheless I

strongly

disagree that the Bible is "one of the greatest reasons to reconvert

atheism ever." I know, because reading the Bible raised my awareness

greater realities in space and time, gave me the sure knowledge that

this

life is the beginning of a remarkable journey that will last many
eternities, and "converted" me from atheism to the truth that God

does

exist.

The Bible also says that dragons, unicorns, and satyrs exist.

no it doesn't

Why did you snip the part where he provides the evidence right out of your
own holy book, you dishonest liar.

KOOK!
re-read my reply
.

User: "Precision"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 01:47:02 AM

"William T. Goat" <ericvonl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Precision wrote:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted,

whirled,

then shouted:

<snip>

Well, this started out interesting, but quickly fell apart as it

lead to

this:

For further information on the destiny of humans and this planet,

highly recommend a thorough reading of the entire Bible. Learn the
truth about human history from its beginning to eternal future.

This

is one book that has been neglected even though its timeless

wisdom

can only point to its origin from the most advanced

extra-terrestrial

intelligence that we could possibly imagine.

Gobbledygook. The bible is a book of fables and mythology.

Granted it

does contain some historical characters, but it is mixed with a

teeming

pile of magical garbage that has no bearing on modern society.

However, I

hope a lot of people take your advice and read the bible

thoroughly. The

bible is one of the greatest reasons to deconvert to atheism ever.

I respectfully reply that you are completely mistaken. The Bible is a

blueprint for eternal life. Those whose lives it has changed will

attest to

that fact. However, the Bible contains truths that you might find
unpalatable. We fear what we do not understand. Nonetheless I

strongly

disagree that the Bible is "one of the greatest reasons to reconvert

atheism ever." I know, because reading the Bible raised my awareness

greater realities in space and time, gave me the sure knowledge that

this

life is the beginning of a remarkable journey that will last many
eternities, and "converted" me from atheism to the truth that God

does

exist.

There was a recent special called "Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real" on the
Animal Planet Channel the other night that demonstrated scientifically
through the use of hypothesis that Dragons. These fascinating creatures have
been in folklore of every civilization throughout human history, and
scientists were interviewed who hypothesized that these creatures survived
the dinosaur extinction by living underwater (i.e., Chinese history
indicates their Dragons came from the sea). These creatures, far from
mythical, very in actuality very likely to have existed and could breath
fire through the use of a second lung, nitrogen created by natural stomach
bacterium, and other mechanics that the documentary proved are not out of
the realm of biological possibility.
Just because these creatures became extinct as mankind encroached upon their
environment does NOT mean their existence can be swept under the carpet.

Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the
bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and

Again, the colorful metaphorical way of describing nature's beautiful
creatures of old seems to place them in the minds of modern humans as having
been myth and flights of fanciful imaginations, when in fact creatures with
exotic horns could have indeed existed (that is, until poachers caused their
extinction as elephants today are in danger of becoming extinct for their
ivory).

their dust made fat with fatness.

Isaiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their
houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there,
and satyrs shall dance there.

Especially in modern times, references to mythical creatures believed to
have been half-human such as satyrs is controversial (especially due to the
sexual undertones of some of these myths). However, the REAL creatures these
names reference are likely far from the modern myths post extinction of
these creatures. Nobody would believe the Komodo Dragons existed except that
they are alive and well on an island today. If they were believed extinct
and someone took of photo of one of these exotic creatures on that island,
it would likely be first received by a skeptical media and world as a hoax.
Many people are afraid to believe in anything that is beyond the mundane,
the predictable, and the believable. In essence they are unable to cope with
the degree of bazaar "strangeness" in the universe that lies just beyond the
edge of the "forest" and having one's eyes unveiled to the unvarnished TRUTH
would literally cause some to have nervous breakdowns. You might say that
before the naked truth is revealed a slow "strip tease" must first ensue...
and we are living in a time in history when the truth is doing that exotic
dance before a disbelieving world of people who are emerging from a
spiritual dark age.
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User: "Virgil"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 02:55:13 AM

In article <42426e43$1_5@127.0.0.1>, "Precision" <precision@Usenet.com>
wrote:

For someone who calls himself "Precision", you are not being very
precise.
The special on dragons spoke of dragons producing HYDROGEN by means of
interstinal bacteria, much as cattle produce methane, not NITROGEN.
HYDROGEN, being considerably lighter than air was alleged to be helpful
in allowing these creatures to fly and being highly combustible, was
alleged to be the source of their ability to breathe fire.
Since NITROGEN is neither lighter than air (which is mostly nitrogen
already) nor easily combustible (or air would burn spontaneously), both
the physics and chemistry for nitrogen are wrong.
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User: "cactus"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 02:08:24 PM

Precision wrote:
<snip>

There was a recent special called "Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real" on the
Animal Planet Channel the other night that demonstrated scientifically
through the use of hypothesis that Dragons. These fascinating creatures have
been in folklore of every civilization throughout human history, and
scientists were interviewed who hypothesized that these creatures survived
the dinosaur extinction by living underwater (i.e., Chinese history
indicates their Dragons came from the sea). These creatures, far from
mythical, very in actuality very likely to have existed and could breath
fire through the use of a second lung, nitrogen created by natural stomach
bacterium, and other mechanics that the documentary proved are not out of
the realm of biological possibility.

Just because these creatures became extinct as mankind encroached upon their
environment does NOT mean their existence can be swept under the carpet.

Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the
bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and

My translation (Davka) has "satyrs" in Isaiah 13:21. No dragons or
unicorns elsewhere, however. Interesting.

Especially in modern times, references to mythical creatures believed to
have been half-human such as satyrs is controversial (especially due to the
sexual undertones of some of these myths). However, the REAL creatures these
names reference are likely far from the modern myths post extinction of
these creatures. Nobody would believe the Komodo Dragons existed except that
they are alive and well on an island today. If they were believed extinct
and someone took of photo of one of these exotic creatures on that island,
it would likely be first received by a skeptical media and world as a hoax.

Many people are afraid to believe in anything that is beyond the mundane,
the predictable, and the believable. In essence they are unable to cope with
the degree of bazaar "strangeness" in the universe that lies just beyond the
edge of the "forest" and having one's eyes unveiled to the unvarnished TRUTH
would literally cause some to have nervous breakdowns. You might say that
before the naked truth is revealed a slow "strip tease" must first ensue...
and we are living in a time in history when the truth is doing that exotic
dance before a disbelieving world of people who are emerging from a
spiritual dark age.

That's why religions exist: to provide order and predictability to a
chaotic, dynamic and stochastic universe. I worry about the well-being
of the biblical literalists who impose so much order that anything out
of their ordinary causes great distress, fulminations and gnashing of teeth.

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User: "Jeff Dee"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 11:46:34 AM

Precision wrote:

There was a recent special called "Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real" on the
Animal Planet Channel the other night that demonstrated scientifically
through the use of hypothesis that Dragons. These fascinating creatures have
been in folklore of every civilization throughout human history, and
scientists were interviewed who hypothesized that these creatures survived
the dinosaur extinction by living underwater (i.e., Chinese history
indicates their Dragons came from the sea). These creatures, far from
mythical, very in actuality very likely to have existed and could breath
fire through the use of a second lung, nitrogen created by natural stomach
bacterium, and other mechanics that the documentary proved are not out of
the realm of biological possibility.

Just because these creatures became extinct as mankind encroached upon their
environment does NOT mean their existence can be swept under the carpet.

Jesus H. Christ! Can you not tell the difference between fantasy and
reality?
Dude, I work in the field of fantasy role-playing games. Part of my job
is to come up with rationalizations to make fantasy creatures, magic,
and gods seem plausible. So I'm begging you, speaking as a professional,
for the sake of your own sanity, to take my word for it:
*Making up plausible sounding rationalizations something does not make
that thing real*.
(snip)

Many people are afraid to believe in anything that is beyond the mundane,
the predictable, and the believable.

They're not "afraid", man. They simply *know better*. Though I suppose
you could say that they're "afraid of being stupid", which is a
reasonable fear if there ever was one.

In essence they are unable to cope with
the degree of bazaar "strangeness" in the universe that lies just beyond the
edge of the "forest"

Now you're lying about me, and I won't have it. As I said, my *job* has
me hip-deep in bizarre fantasy (and science fiction) strangeness. I have
no difficulty coping with it whatsoever. I just know better than to
confuse fantasy with reality.

and having one's eyes unveiled to the unvarnished TRUTH
would literally cause some to have nervous breakdowns.

If you think you can show me "the unvarnished TRUTH", go ahead. Make my day.
Or is this claim that it would hurt my brain just an excuse so you don't
have to lay it on the line? Put up or shut up, I say.

You might say that
before the naked truth is revealed a slow "strip tease" must first ensue...
and we are living in a time in history when the truth is doing that exotic
dance before a disbelieving world of people who are emerging from a
spiritual dark age.

Apparently, emerging from a "spiritual dark age" is the same thing as
moving toward an *actual* Dark Age.
No, thank you.
-Jeff Dee
.

User: "Vic Sagerquist"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	24 Mar 2005 09:28:09 AM

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:

There was a recent special called "Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real" on
the Animal Planet Channel the other night that demonstrated
scientifically through the use of hypothesis that Dragons. These
fascinating creatures have been in folklore of every civilization
throughout human history, and scientists were interviewed who
hypothesized that these creatures survived the dinosaur extinction by
living underwater (i.e., Chinese history indicates their Dragons came
from the sea). These creatures, far from mythical, very in actuality
very likely to have existed and could breath fire through the use of a
second lung, nitrogen created by natural stomach bacterium, and other
mechanics that the documentary proved are not out of the realm of
biological possibility.

Just because these creatures became extinct as mankind encroached upon
their environment does NOT mean their existence can be swept under the
carpet.

Uh-huh. Let me guess where this is going. Even though nobody has
discovered fossil evidence of living dragons, there is no reason to believe
they don't exist. Am I close?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.

User: "Precision"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	25 Mar 2005 06:03:39 PM

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:

There was a recent special called "Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real" on
the Animal Planet Channel the other night that demonstrated
scientifically through the use of hypothesis that Dragons. These
fascinating creatures have been in folklore of every civilization
throughout human history, and scientists were interviewed who
hypothesized that these creatures survived the dinosaur extinction by
living underwater (i.e., Chinese history indicates their Dragons came
from the sea). These creatures, far from mythical, very in actuality
very likely to have existed and could breath fire through the use of a
second lung, nitrogen created by natural stomach bacterium, and other
mechanics that the documentary proved are not out of the realm of
biological possibility.

Just because these creatures became extinct as mankind encroached upon
their environment does NOT mean their existence can be swept under the
carpet.

Uh-huh. Let me guess where this is going. Even though nobody has
discovered fossil evidence of living dragons, there is no reason to
believe
they don't exist. Am I close?

Then am I to assume that anything NOT discovered to this point cannot
possibly exist........ because nobody has yet discovered its fossil
evidence?
I'm not taking a position on the existence of Dragons, but other "mythical"
life in past lore and thought to be fantasy (like the Komodo Dragon that
lives in its own habitat on a single island) turned out to be real. Whether
or not that proves true with Dragons as well - be it fossil evidence or
finding living an breathing ones in some isolated area of the world -
remains to be seen. I refuse to speculate either way. I just thought the
documentary on the Animal Channel made a compelling case that such a future
find is *possible* albeit admittedly incredible at this moment in history.
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User: "Vic Sagerquist"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	25 Mar 2005 07:11:13 PM

On 25 Mar 2005, Precision dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96234BEE5B4C4vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:

There was a recent special called "Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real" on
the Animal Planet Channel the other night that demonstrated
scientifically through the use of hypothesis that Dragons. These
fascinating creatures have been in folklore of every civilization
throughout human history, and scientists were interviewed who
hypothesized that these creatures survived the dinosaur extinction
by living underwater (i.e., Chinese history indicates their Dragons
came from the sea). These creatures, far from mythical, very in
actuality very likely to have existed and could breath fire through
the use of a second lung, nitrogen created by natural stomach
bacterium, and other mechanics that the documentary proved are not
out of the realm of biological possibility.

Just because these creatures became extinct as mankind encroached
upon their environment does NOT mean their existence can be swept
under the carpet.

Uh-huh. Let me guess where this is going. Even though nobody has
discovered fossil evidence of living dragons, there is no reason to
believe
they don't exist. Am I close?

Then am I to assume that anything NOT discovered to this point cannot
possibly exist........ because nobody has yet discovered its fossil
evidence?

<I'd call that a bull's eye.> By that logic you could make up anything
you want, and assert it exists because you cannot be disproven. Dragons
are mythology, obviously so. Giant flying mammals that breathe fire.
I'll believe that whopper when we have evidence.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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User: "L Perez"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	25 Mar 2005 11:05:45 PM

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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On 25 Mar 2005, Precision dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96234BEE5B4C4vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Precision dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:

There was a recent special called "Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real" on
the Animal Planet Channel the other night that demonstrated
scientifically through the use of hypothesis that Dragons. These
fascinating creatures have been in folklore of every civilization
throughout human history, and scientists were interviewed who
hypothesized that these creatures survived the dinosaur extinction
by living underwater (i.e., Chinese history indicates their Dragons
came from the sea). These creatures, far from mythical, very in
actuality very likely to have existed and could breath fire through
the use of a second lung, nitrogen created by natural stomach
bacterium, and other mechanics that the documentary proved are not
out of the realm of biological possibility.

Just because these creatures became extinct as mankind encroached
upon their environment does NOT mean their existence can be swept
under the carpet.

Uh-huh. Let me guess where this is going. Even though nobody has
discovered fossil evidence of living dragons, there is no reason to
believe
they don't exist. Am I close?

Then am I to assume that anything NOT discovered to this point cannot
possibly exist........ because nobody has yet discovered its fossil
evidence?

<I'd call that a bull's eye.> By that logic you could make up anything
you want,

heh... kinda like digging up bones of extinct species of apes and claiming
they are somehow human ancestors
.

User: *"~..~"*
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million - WTS rags	26 Mar 2005 12:54:09 AM

"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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<I'd call that a bull's eye.> By that logic you could make up anything
you want,

heh... kinda like digging up bones of extinct species of apes and claiming
they are somehow human ancestors

==========================
And you have the proof they were NOT human ancestors, but apes? Or are you
again parroting what you read in the Watchtower magazines, written by unpaid
H.S. drop-outs? You do realize that these unpaid drop-outs do all their
research on the Creationist websites don't you?
--
CR.......
L Perez bleated: BEWARE! there are people on this newsgroup who are only
here to slander and
lie about Jehovah's Witnesses. They do not offer any alternative
organization...
Note: No other organization can even come close to the WTS' record of six,
false-alarm end-of-the world predictions in the 20th century.
(Credit to RLM)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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User: "Precision"
Title: Re: Human Extinction 3 Million Years Overdue	26 Mar 2005 03:49:47 AM