"Joseph H" <joseph@humanisation.org> wrote in message
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Humanisation, as we all know now, rests on 5 easy propositions:
1: Human beings have been endowed by nature with the wherewithall to
organise themselves intelligently.
Edgar Svendsen replied:
There is no evidence for this. It's true that humans can organize
small
groups to a limited degree but there is no example I know of where any
such
group behaved intellegently under all circumstances for any length of
time.
Joseph H now responds:
Masses of evidence, Edgar. Rome, Egypt, Peru, China, your own
city....Look out the window, man! Mine is not a scientific statement;
it is a fairly modest observation about human capability. We can
organisae ourselves...clearly we can.
2: The initial expression of this capability was compromised by error
and by the trauma attendant on our colonisation of the planet -
migration, conquest, subjugation...
There is no proof that any limitation of human's ability to organize
intelligently was compromised by the trauma you mention. It may have
been
compromised by some other factor; or it may have never been all that
efficient.
"Proof" "Evidence"...you're so legal! "Compromised", meaning hindered,
restricted, hampered. I would suggest that the course of human history
saw many events and trends that hampered our natural expression:
migration, starvation, oppression, enslavment, ignorance, enfocred
"belief" etc etc.
3: Now that much of this trauma is past we should expect that
humanity will finally move towards an intelligent and knowing mastery
of the globe.
There is no evidence that the trauma (if any) is past; in fact reading
the
news suggests that the trauma, if indeed it is the causative factor,
is
still in full swing. Humanity may indeed move as you say but a much
stronger argument is needed to establish that this is the moment when
that
movement begins. The more likely scenario, IMHO, is that it will begin
at
some time in the moderately distant future.
More "evidence" required. And - again - there is plenty of it. I never
suggested that all suffering etc is gone. But much, if not most, of
the institutionalised stuff is past. Most of the empires are gone;
democracy is spreading; ignorance is far less of a force et etc. Of
course there is still suffering - and there will always be. It's a
question of degree.
4: Instead, a strident individualism blocks perception of any such
possibility.
5: To trancend this individualism a new vision of human potential is
required.
Again a stronger argument is needed to establish that a new vision is
what
is needed for that transcendence rather then, say, new abilities or
new
technology.
Yes, new abilities and new technology will also be needed. But,
definitely, we need a new holistic vision of human capacity to replace
past religious visions and to supplant current materialistic mindsets.
Without such a vision we lack direction. Whether Humanisation is the
vision required is another matter.
Thanks for very useful posting.
Joseph H
www.humanisation.org
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