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28 Jan 2007 09:46:18 AM |
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Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
28 Jan 2007 10:12:26 PM |
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"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:u5hpr2duu52fnmostnjbdugu1juk1qaoje@4ax.com...
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human technology
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capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
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If you took all the fisionable material from all the world's nuclear
reactors and reprocessing plants and built a bomb with it, that would give
you a mighty big bang. Several thousand megatons is my guess. The resulting
fallout would kill off most, if not all, of the world's animal population
(including the human animals). I understand that cockroaches are one of the
few (only?) species that would withstand such destruction.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
30 Jan 2007 01:42:50 AM |
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In article <u5hpr2duu52fnmostnjbdugu1juk1qaoje@4ax.com>,
UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com says...
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
My guess would be the possible future ability to slightly shift the path
of a meteorite while still years from a near pass by earth into a direct
hit.
If a giant mass extinction event meteorite can be deflected from an
earth collusion course then a smaller city or region destroying
meteorite, about the size of the 1908 Russian meteorite, can be
deflected towards an earth target providing the time zone lines up. Such
an impact would be many times greater than the most powerful h-bomb
blasts. But the energy expended in deflection initially would be small
in comparison; the meteorite making use of gravity assisted kinetic
energy. This is the second reason the Pentagon is interested in tracking
and deflecting meteorites.
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you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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| User: "Jim Hawkins" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
30 Jan 2007 09:40:13 AM |
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"Meteorite Debris" <epicurus.both@YOUR_SHOES.net.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.20299b002d81c59698968b@news.ade.connect.com.au...
In article <u5hpr2duu52fnmostnjbdugu1juk1qaoje@4ax.com>,
UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com says...
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human
technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have
it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
My guess would be the possible future ability to slightly shift the path
of a meteorite while still years from a near pass by earth into a direct
hit.
If a giant mass extinction event meteorite can be deflected from an
earth collusion course then a smaller city or region destroying
meteorite, about the size of the 1908 Russian meteorite, can be
deflected towards an earth target providing the time zone lines up. Such
an impact would be many times greater than the most powerful h-bomb
blasts. But the energy expended in deflection initially would be small
in comparison; the meteorite making use of gravity assisted kinetic
energy. This is the second reason the Pentagon is interested in tracking
and deflecting meteorites.
If this can be done with sufficient accuracy to guarantee hitting a
particular city then the Pentagon is on to something, but I doubt we have
the technology - yet.
But just think of the consequences of three of them landing on Mecca,
Jerusalem and the Vatican by er.. mistake ! Oh well, we can dream!
Jim Hawkins
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make
you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
28 Jan 2007 03:41:18 PM |
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On Jan 28, 3:46 pm, Uncle Clover <UncleClo...@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
Like, THIS big man...
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and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "Boxington Headmaker" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
28 Jan 2007 03:57:14 PM |
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"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170020478.233379.116360@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 28, 3:46 pm, Uncle Clover <UncleClo...@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human
technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have
it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
Like, THIS big man...
Nah, that's nothing, me and the boys were down by the lake, letting off the
odd WMD while having a beer, and my mate Dave let off one T. H. I. S. big.
Box
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
28 Jan 2007 08:51:58 PM |
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On Jan 29, 2:46 am, Uncle Clover <UncleClo...@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
The Hydrogen-bomb (fusion bomb) can be made almost arbitarily large.
(you have a primary fission bomb as a "trigger" which ignites a fusion
bomb - you can, in theory, just keep adding fusion stages to get an
even bigger bomb...)
10 - 50 Mega-Tonne bombs have been tested.
It is hard to imagine a target for which anything above a dozen
Megatons is of "practical" milatary use - although the propaganda
value of the biggest bomb played a role in the cold war.
Mark.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
28 Jan 2007 10:52:22 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:46:18 -0500, Uncle Clover wrote in message
<u5hpr2duu52fnmostnjbdugu1juk1qaoje@4ax.com>:
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
IIRC nuclear weapons can be built arbitrarily large. The largest
weapon ever detonated yielded 50MT (1961). Militarily, *really* big
bombs are useless, though they might be useful in a political sense if
you can persuade the other side you really will use them if attacked.
--
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage.
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www.eac-nudis.com = Evil Atheist Conspiracy NNTP / Usenet Distributed Intelligence System...
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
28 Jan 2007 10:59:45 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:52:22 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:46:18 -0500, Uncle Clover wrote in message
<u5hpr2duu52fnmostnjbdugu1juk1qaoje@4ax.com>:
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
IIRC nuclear weapons can be built arbitrarily large. The largest
weapon ever detonated yielded 50MT (1961). Militarily, *really* big
bombs are useless, though they might be useful in a political sense if
you can persuade the other side you really will use them if attacked.
Actually no. The soviet delivery systems didn't have as good guidance,
so they went for larger megatonnage so they didn't need to be so
accurate.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
28 Jan 2007 11:42:08 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:59:45 -0500, Christopher A.Lee wrote in message
<2hlpr218cs1g7h3j39ioj9e5o9cccvoenq@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:52:22 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:46:18 -0500, Uncle Clover wrote in message
<u5hpr2duu52fnmostnjbdugu1juk1qaoje@4ax.com>:
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
IIRC nuclear weapons can be built arbitrarily large. The largest
weapon ever detonated yielded 50MT (1961). Militarily, *really* big
bombs are useless, though they might be useful in a political sense if
you can persuade the other side you really will use them if attacked.
Actually no. The soviet delivery systems didn't have as good guidance,
so they went for larger megatonnage so they didn't need to be so
accurate.
It's true the Russians traded yield for accuracy, but by "really" big
weapons I was thinking 100MT and up. IIRC the largest Russian weapon
actually deployed was around 25MT,
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"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage.
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www.eac-nudis.com = Evil Atheist Conspiracy NNTP / Usenet Distributed Intelligence System...
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
28 Jan 2007 06:23:32 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:59:45 -0500, Christopher A.Lee wrote in message
<2hlpr218cs1g7h3j39ioj9e5o9cccvoenq@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:52:22 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:46:18 -0500, Uncle Clover wrote in message
<u5hpr2duu52fnmostnjbdugu1juk1qaoje@4ax.com>:
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human techno=
logy it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we hav=
e it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
IIRC nuclear weapons can be built arbitrarily large. The largest
weapon ever detonated yielded 50MT (1961). Militarily, *really* big
bombs are useless, though they might be useful in a political sense if
you can persuade the other side you really will use them if attacked.
Actually no. The soviet delivery systems didn't have as good guidance,
so they went for larger megatonnage so they didn't need to be so
accurate.
It's true the Russians traded yield for accuracy, but by "really" big
weapons I was thinking 100MT and up. IIRC the largest Russian weapon
actually deployed was around 25MT,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
Tsar Bomba (Russian: =D0=A6=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=8C-=D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=B1=D0=
=B0, literally "Tsar-bomb") is the Western=20
name for the largest, most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated.=20
Developed by the Soviet Union, the bomb of about 50 megatons was=20
codenamed Ivan by its developers.
The bomb was tested on October 30, 1961, in Novaya Zemlya, an island=20
in the Arctic Sea. The device was scaled down from its original design=20
of 100 megatons to reduce the resulting nuclear fallout.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
29 Jan 2007 12:16:16 AM |
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On 28 Jan 2007 16:23:32 -0800, "JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com>
wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:59:45 -0500, Christopher A.Lee wrote in message
<2hlpr218cs1g7h3j39ioj9e5o9cccvoenq@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:52:22 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:46:18 -0500, Uncle Clover wrote in message
<u5hpr2duu52fnmostnjbdugu1juk1qaoje@4ax.com>:
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
IIRC nuclear weapons can be built arbitrarily large. The largest
weapon ever detonated yielded 50MT (1961). Militarily, *really* big
bombs are useless, though they might be useful in a political sense if
you can persuade the other side you really will use them if attacked.
Actually no. The soviet delivery systems didn't have as good guidance,
so they went for larger megatonnage so they didn't need to be so
accurate.
It's true the Russians traded yield for accuracy, but by "really" big
weapons I was thinking 100MT and up. IIRC the largest Russian weapon
actually deployed was around 25MT,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
Tsar Bomba (Russian: ????-?????, literally "Tsar-bomb") is the Western
name for the largest, most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated.
Developed by the Soviet Union, the bomb of about 50 megatons was
codenamed Ivan by its developers.
The bomb was tested on October 30, 1961, in Novaya Zemlya, an island
in the Arctic Sea. The device was scaled down from its original design
of 100 megatons to reduce the resulting nuclear fallout.
Yes, but was it ever deployed operationally? I mean the damn thing
weighed 27 tonnes, and required a specially modified bomber to carry
it.
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"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage.
http://www.city-of-dis.com/p_q.asp?I1=69597&I2=69121
The begining...
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| User: "JessHC" |
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29 Jan 2007 07:31:06 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On 28 Jan 2007 16:23:32 -0800, "JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com>
wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:59:45 -0500, Christopher A.Lee wrote in message
<2hlpr218cs1g7h3j39ioj9e5o9cccvoenq@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:52:22 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:46:18 -0500, Uncle Clover wrote in message
<u5hpr2duu52fnmostnjbdugu1juk1qaoje@4ax.com>:
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human technology it
capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been built, but we have it
within our means to build it, how big would the explosion be?
IIRC nuclear weapons can be built arbitrarily large. The largest
weapon ever detonated yielded 50MT (1961). Militarily, *really* big
bombs are useless, though they might be useful in a political sense if
you can persuade the other side you really will use them if attacked.
Actually no. The soviet delivery systems didn't have as good guidance,
so they went for larger megatonnage so they didn't need to be so
accurate.
It's true the Russians traded yield for accuracy, but by "really" big
weapons I was thinking 100MT and up. IIRC the largest Russian weapon
actually deployed was around 25MT,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
Tsar Bomba (Russian: ????-?????, literally "Tsar-bomb") is the Western
name for the largest, most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated.
Developed by the Soviet Union, the bomb of about 50 megatons was
codenamed Ivan by its developers.
The bomb was tested on October 30, 1961, in Novaya Zemlya, an island
in the Arctic Sea. The device was scaled down from its original design
of 100 megatons to reduce the resulting nuclear fallout.
Yes, but was it ever deployed operationally? I mean the damn thing
weighed 27 tonnes, and required a specially modified bomber to carry
it.
No, I don't think it was, for the reasons you mention. Apparently
there was also a problem of drift; they used a parachute to slow the
descent, to give the bomber time to get to safety.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's largest explosion would be...? |
28 Jan 2007 06:02:02 PM |
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Uncle Clover <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:u5hpr2duu52fnmostnjbdugu1juk1qaoje@4ax.com:
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What is the most powerful, far-reaching explosion current human
technology it capable of creating? Even if the device hasn't been
built, but we have it within our means to build it, how big would the
explosion be? --
According to the episode of Space: 1999 I just watched, it was the
explosion that blew the moon out of orbit and sent 300-plus people on a
voyage out of our solar system. =D
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Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS. Why?
--They consider themselves shepherds.
--They consider the rest of us sheep.
--Shepherds ***** sheep.
--Therefore AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS.
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