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"+Church of The Painful Truth+" |
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16 May 2004 09:12:04 PM |
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Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
16 May 2004 11:31:04 PM |
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"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood,
The flood myth was passed down from Pagan sources. If it's true,
it would disprove the bible and every religion based on the bible.
It would mean that the Pagans got it right.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
17 May 2004 09:06:54 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood,
The flood myth was passed down from Pagan sources. If it's true,
it would disprove the bible and every religion based on the bible.
It would mean that the Pagans got it right.
But only the Pagans who lived in very flood prone areas. Interestingly
enough, cultures who do not live in flood planes have no record of a
world-wide flood.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Harry K" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
17 May 2004 09:21:13 PM |
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Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message news:<40A8C8A8.B450ADB@serv.net>...
JTEM wrote:
"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood,
The flood myth was passed down from Pagan sources. If it's true,
it would disprove the bible and every religion based on the bible.
It would mean that the Pagans got it right.
But only the Pagans who lived in very flood prone areas. Interestingly
enough, cultures who do not live in flood planes have no record of a
world-wide flood.
AFAIK at least one (Egyptians) who do live in flood prone areas didn't
have a record of a world-wide flood. In fact they didn't even
mention having lived -through- the world-wide flood.
Harry K
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 08:22:00 AM |
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Harry K wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message news:<40A8C8A8.B450ADB@serv.net>...
JTEM wrote:
"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood,
The flood myth was passed down from Pagan sources. If it's true,
it would disprove the bible and every religion based on the bible.
It would mean that the Pagans got it right.
But only the Pagans who lived in very flood prone areas. Interestingly
enough, cultures who do not live in flood planes have no record of a
world-wide flood.
AFAIK at least one (Egyptians) who do live in flood prone areas didn't
have a record of a world-wide flood. In fact they didn't even
mention having lived -through- the world-wide flood.
I only said that the only place you find myths of a world wide flood are flood prone
areas. I never said that every flood prone area has a myth of a world wide flood :-)
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
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| User: "Adam Ritthaler" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
17 May 2004 01:02:10 AM |
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"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote in message
news:BiVpc.48$de6.126752@news.uswest.net...
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's
storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
--
The Atheist Fools Network
http://www.users.qwest.net/~araymond5/
"Few men are so obstinate in their atheism, that a pressing danger will
not
compel them to acknowledgment of a divine power....."
Plato
"Atheism is a disease of the soul before it becomes an error of
understanding....."
Plato
"No one ever dies an atheist....."
Plato
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American Scientific Affiliation
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Answers in Genesis
http://www.answersingenesis.org/
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http://www.ChristianAnswers.net/abr/abrhome.html
Association of Christian Astronomers International
http://www.christian-astronomers.org/
Affiliation of Christian Geologists
http://www.wheaton.edu/ACG/
Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences
http://www.ctns.org/
Christian Geology Ministry
http://www.kjvbible.org/
My favorite part of this is how they say that the jellyfish were buried by
having tons of sediment dumped on them during a global flood, yet they have
no problem with the idea that this massive avalanche of sediment didn't
destroy the ripple marks in the sand. This is another good example of
creationists picking one fact and ignoring anything that doesn't fit into
their preferred explanation.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
17 May 2004 01:44:34 AM |
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"Adam Ritthaler" <adamritthaler_@hotmail.com> wrote
My favorite part of this is how they say that the jellyfish
were buried by having tons of sediment dumped on them
during a global flood, yet they have no problem with the
idea that this massive avalanche of sediment didn't
destroy the ripple marks in the sand. This is another
good example of creationists picking one fact and
ignoring anything that doesn't fit into their preferred
explanation.
Have you ever met an honest creationist?
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| User: "+Church of The Painful Truth+" |
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17 May 2004 08:44:36 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:LL-dnQrJiKhk_TXdRVn-uQ@comcast.com...
"Adam Ritthaler" <adamritthaler_@hotmail.com> wrote
My favorite part of this is how they say that the jellyfish
were buried by having tons of sediment dumped on them
during a global flood, yet they have no problem with the
idea that this massive avalanche of sediment didn't
destroy the ripple marks in the sand. This is another
good example of creationists picking one fact and
ignoring anything that doesn't fit into their preferred
explanation.
Have you ever met an honest creationist?
WRITTEN RULES OF ATHEISM
1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical, psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive
4a. Specific example for 4.: Cry for "freedom from religion", but whenever
followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts agree, scream
"Persecution!"
5. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
5a. When caught lying, always accuse the opposition of lying rather than
be honest and admit the obvious
6. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
7. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of atheisms failure for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to yourself
8. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of no ones plans
for
the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of being a
vertabrate monkey out of the premordial slugde
9.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
10.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as right wing
propaganda)
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
12.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything because you have no moral
compass guiding you.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
17 May 2004 11:18:59 PM |
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"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote
WRITTEN RULES OF THEISM
1. Hit on something that isn't the least bit clever, than repeat it
ad nausea.
2. (See # 1, above)
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| User: "Eros" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 08:56:48 PM |
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"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote in message news:<U_dqc.517$QW6.117196@news.uswest.net>...
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:LL-dnQrJiKhk_TXdRVn-uQ@comcast.com...
"Adam Ritthaler" <adamritthaler_@hotmail.com> wrote
My favorite part of this is how they say that the jellyfish
were buried by having tons of sediment dumped on them
during a global flood, yet they have no problem with the
idea that this massive avalanche of sediment didn't
destroy the ripple marks in the sand. This is another
good example of creationists picking one fact and
ignoring anything that doesn't fit into their preferred
explanation.
Have you ever met an honest creationist?
WRITTEN RULES OF ATHEISM
1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
[snip list of popular creationist misconceptions]
WRITTEN RULES OF CREATIONISM
"There is not the slightest possibility that the *facts* of science
can contradict the Bible." -- Dr. Henry Morris (Institute for Creation
Research)
"There is no observational fact imaginable which cannot, one way or
another, be made to fit the creation model." -- Dr. Henry Morris
(Institute for Creation Research)
"No geologic difficulties, real or imagined, can be allowed to take
precedence over the clear statements and necessary inferences of
Scripture." -- Dr. Henry Morris (Institute for Creation Research)
"We do not know how the creator created, what processes He used, for
He used processes which are not now operating in the natural universe.
This is why we refer to creation as Special Creation. We cannot
discover by scientific investigation anything about the creative
processes used by the creator. (Duane Gish, Creation Life Publishers,
1979, p. 40.)
"Genesis 1-11 is the actual historical truth, regardless of any
scientific or chronologic problems thereby entailed." -- Dr. Henry M.
Morris, "Remarkable Birth, p. 82.
"...the main reason for insisting on the universal Flood as a fact of
history and as the primary vehicle for geological interpretation is
that God's Word plainly teaches it! No geologic difficulties, real or
imagined, can be allowed to take precedence over the clear statements
and necessary inferences of Scripture." [Henry Morris, Biblical
Cosmology and Modern Science, 1970, p.32-33]
"The only way we can determine the true age of the earth is for God to
tell us what it is. And since He has told us, very plainly, in the
Holy Scriptures that it is several thousand years in age, and no more,
that ought to settle all basic questions of terrestrial chronology.
For those who believe in Creation, therefore, physical processes and
evidence that indicate an immense time scale must be EXPLAINED AWAY.
Only those processes or evidence commensurate with a short (i.e. 6000
years) time scale can be accepted for use in Creationism."
[Dr. H.M. Morris, 1974, "Scientific Creationism", Public School
Edition, Creation-Life Publishers, San Diego, p.136)]
"Science has questions that may never be answered.
Creationism has answers that may never be questioned."
"Will you speak falsely for God, and speak deceitfully for him?"
Job 13:7
EROS.
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"Any theory of origins is incoherently religious." -- Kurt Palmer
http://evolutionlie.faithweb.com/palmer.html
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18 May 2004 03:14:11 AM |
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"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote in message news:<U_dqc.517$QW6.117196@news.uswest.net>...
WRITTEN RULES OF ATHEISM
1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
You are quite correct
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
Bit of a hypothetical, 'cos I've never been wrong. See 1.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
Pot! Kettle! Shove it.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical, psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive
You started it
4a. Specific example for 4.: Cry for "freedom from religion", but whenever
followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts agree, scream
"Persecution!"
Followers of other faiths want freedom from religion too? I'm all for
it!
5. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
<blink>
5a. When caught lying, always accuse the opposition of lying rather than
be honest and admit the obvious
I have never lied in a newsgroup. I achieve this by sticking to
insubstantial guff.
6. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
The dog did it
7. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of atheisms failure for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to yourself
See 2
8. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of no ones plans
for the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of being a
vertabrate monkey out of the premordial slugde
Sludge -> monkey. I think you may have missed a couple of steps out
there. A course in evolution might help clear up your
misunderstanding. Actually, it would take about 20 minutes but you
have to be prepared to listen.
9.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
If I can think of anything to be humble about, I'll give it a shot.
10.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as right wing
propaganda)
Give me some hard facts and I'll take a view on 'em
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
Blast! Bang goes my "God either exists or he doesn't" hypothesis.
12.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything because you have no moral
compass guiding you.
Correct. Just off to commit a few murders in the name of atheism.
Toodle-oo!
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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18 May 2004 09:10:31 AM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 3:14:11 -0500, allan m wrote
(in message <507dfd68.0405180021.58bfa132@posting.google.com>):
Snip
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
Blast! Bang goes my "God either exists or he doesn't" hypothesis.
Schrodinger's God!
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"Nothing can stand up to atheistic critical examination. You guys are the
proctologists of Religion." - angelicusrex
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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18 May 2004 10:06:19 AM |
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"Harry F. Leopold" wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 3:14:11 -0500, allan m wrote
(in message <507dfd68.0405180021.58bfa132@posting.google.com>):
Snip
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
Blast! Bang goes my "God either exists or he doesn't" hypothesis.
Schrodinger's God!
And a box that is, apparently, unopenable.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 08:33:54 PM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 10:06:19 -0500, Gregory Gadow wrote
(in article <40AA281F.677374B5@serv.net>):
Subject: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils!
From: Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
Date: Today 10:06
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, talk.origins
"Harry F. Leopold" wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 3:14:11 -0500, allan m wrote
(in message <507dfd68.0405180021.58bfa132@posting.google.com>):
Snip
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
Blast! Bang goes my "God either exists or he doesn't" hypothesis.
Schrodinger's God!
And a box that is, apparently, unopenable.
Absolutely! Within the box Schrodinger's God is both dead and alive.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"The space time you are trying to reach has been disconnected..." Stony
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19 May 2004 08:12:44 AM |
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"Harry F. Leopold" wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 10:06:19 -0500, Gregory Gadow wrote
(in article <40AA281F.677374B5@serv.net>):
Subject: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils!
From: Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
Date: Today 10:06
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, talk.origins
"Harry F. Leopold" wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 3:14:11 -0500, allan m wrote
(in message <507dfd68.0405180021.58bfa132@posting.google.com>):
Snip
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
Blast! Bang goes my "God either exists or he doesn't" hypothesis.
Schrodinger's God!
And a box that is, apparently, unopenable.
Absolutely! Within the box Schrodinger's God is both dead and alive.
<fundy logic='so-called'>
As long as the box remains unopened, God both exists and does not exist. If the
box remains closed, theists can assert that God exists. Any attept to
rationally prove that existence must be vigorously rejected, as the attempt
might cause God's quantum state to collapse in to non-existence, which would
make the theists feel silly.
</fundy>
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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19 May 2004 10:50:02 AM |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 08:12:44 -0500, Gregory Gadow wrote
(in article <40AB5F09.EA03941@serv.net>):
Subject: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils!
From: Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
Date: Today 8:12
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, talk.origins
"Harry F. Leopold" wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 10:06:19 -0500, Gregory Gadow wrote
(in article <40AA281F.677374B5@serv.net>):
Subject: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils!
From: Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
Date: Today 10:06
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, talk.origins
"Harry F. Leopold" wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 3:14:11 -0500, allan m wrote
(in message <507dfd68.0405180021.58bfa132@posting.google.com>):
Snip
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
Blast! Bang goes my "God either exists or he doesn't" hypothesis.
Schrodinger's God!
And a box that is, apparently, unopenable.
Absolutely! Within the box Schrodinger's God is both dead and alive.
<fundy logic='so-called'>
As long as the box remains unopened, God both exists and does not exist. If
the
box remains closed, theists can assert that God exists. Any attept to
rationally prove that existence must be vigorously rejected, as the attempt
might cause God's quantum state to collapse in to non-existence, which would
make the theists feel silly.
</fundy>
--
And thus God would disappear in a puff of logic.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"Nothing can stand up to atheistic critical examination. You guys are the
proctologists of Religion." - angelicusrex
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18 May 2004 08:19:46 PM |
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Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004 3:14:11 -0500, allan m wrote
(in message <507dfd68.0405180021.58bfa132@posting.google.com>):
Snip
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
Blast! Bang goes my "God either exists or he doesn't" hypothesis.
Schrodinger's God!
He doesn't exist until someone believes in him. Yep...
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Dr John S. Wilkins, www.wilkins.id.au
"I never meet anyone who is not perplexed what to do with their
children" --Charles Darwin to Syms Covington, February 22, 1857
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17 May 2004 08:11:26 PM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 06:44:34 +0000 (UTC), "JTEM"
<gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Adam Ritthaler" <adamritthaler_@hotmail.com> wrote
My favorite part of this is how they say that the jellyfish
were buried by having tons of sediment dumped on them
during a global flood, yet they have no problem with the
idea that this massive avalanche of sediment didn't
destroy the ripple marks in the sand. This is another
good example of creationists picking one fact and
ignoring anything that doesn't fit into their preferred
explanation.
Have you ever met an honest creationist?
None at all in this news group.
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18 May 2004 08:43:35 PM |
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"Adam Ritthaler" <adamritthaler_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10aglofmopr1l4d@corp.supernews.com...
"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote in message
news:BiVpc.48$de6.126752@news.uswest.net...
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's
storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
--
The Atheist Fools Network
http://www.users.qwest.net/~araymond5/
"Few men are so obstinate in their atheism, that a pressing danger will
not
compel them to acknowledgment of a divine power....."
Plato
"Atheism is a disease of the soul before it becomes an error of
understanding....."
Plato
"No one ever dies an atheist....."
Plato
_____________________________
Access Research Network
http://www.arn.org/
American Scientific Affiliation
http://www.asa3.org/
Answers in Genesis
http://www.answersingenesis.org/
Associates for Biblical Research
http://www.ChristianAnswers.net/abr/abrhome.html
Association of Christian Astronomers International
http://www.christian-astronomers.org/
Affiliation of Christian Geologists
http://www.wheaton.edu/ACG/
Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences
http://www.ctns.org/
Christian Geology Ministry
http://www.kjvbible.org/
My favorite part of this is how they say that the jellyfish were buried by
having tons of sediment dumped on them during a global flood, yet they
have
no problem with the idea that this massive avalanche of sediment didn't
destroy the ripple marks in the sand. This is another good example of
creationists picking one fact and ignoring anything that doesn't fit into
their preferred explanation.
WRITTEN RULES OF ATHEISM
1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical, psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive
4a. Specific example for 4.: Cry for "freedom from religion", but whenever
followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts agree, scream
"Persecution!"
5. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
5a. When caught lying, always accuse the opposition of lying rather than
be honest and admit the obvious
6. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
7. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of atheisms failure for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to yourself
8. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of no ones plans
for
the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of being a
vertabrate monkey out of the premordial slugde
9.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
10.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as right wing
propaganda)
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
12.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything because you have no moral
compass guiding you.
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| User: "Lawrence Seib" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 11:09:04 AM |
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"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote in message news:<BiVpc.48$de6.126752@news.uswest.net>...
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
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understanding....."
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"No one ever dies an atheist....."
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- Abraham Lincoln, American president (1809-1865).
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my profession. I could never give assent
to the long, complicated statements of
Christian dogma."
-Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist
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the objects of his creation, whose purposes are
modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who
is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither
can I believe that the individual survives the
death of his body, although feeble souls harbo
r such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism."
-Aldous Huxley, author "Roots"
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and often horrible fooleries of magic and
religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous
folly. It is the price he has to pay for
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"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible.
Early in life, I absenteed myself from
Christian assemblies." "Lighthouses are more
helpful then churches."
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then forget about it. An agnostic is somebody
who doesn't believe in something until there is
evidence for it, so I'm agnostic."
-Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer
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causes whereby a man may oppress his neighbor,
no matter how unjustly. ... Hence they have
had no trouble in finding men who would preach
the damnability and heresy of the new doctrine
from the very pulpit."
-Helen Keller, American lecturer
"There is so much in the bible against which
every insinct of my being rebels, so much so
that I regret the necessity which has compelled
me to read it through from beginning to end.
I do not think that the knowledge I have
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me for the unpleasant details it has forced
upon my attention."
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| User: "VoiceOfReason" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 08:43:37 PM |
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"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote in message news:<BiVpc.48$de6.126752@news.uswest.net>...
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
Too funny! So an anti-evolution web site determines through their
"expert detailed analysis" that the paleontologists were wrong. And
what was their politically correct answer? Why, The Worldwide Flood,
of course.
Of course, The Worldwide Flood, while a nice story, is a physical
impossibility, but why quibble over details, eh?
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| User: "Eros" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 12:11:16 AM |
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"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote in message news:<BiVpc.48$de6.126752@news.uswest.net>...
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
What always amuses me is how creationists always blame a supernatural
flood for things that are far more simply and easily explained by
natural events. Haven't they ever heard of tsunamis?
EROS.
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"...the main reason for insisting on the universal Flood as a fact of
history and as the primary vehicle for geological interpretation is
that God's Word plainly teaches it! No geologic difficulties, real or
imagined, can be allowed to take precedence over the clear statements
and necessary inferences of Scripture." [Henry Morris, Biblical
Cosmology and Modern Science, 1970, p.32-33]
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| User: "Hank" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 01:53:11 PM |
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Eros wrote:
"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote in message news:<BiVpc.48$de6.126752@news.uswest.net>...
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
What always amuses me is how creationists always blame a supernatural
flood for things that are far more simply and easily explained by
natural events. Haven't they ever heard of tsunamis?
Tsunamis aren't in the Bible, therefore they CAN'T be TRUE events!
Hallefrigginluia!
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Assimilate a pitiful little species like you? I think not! - Q of Borg
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| User: "Eros" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 08:48:35 PM |
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Hank <Hank@Company.com> wrote in message news:<40AA5A5C.3CAC1C8F@Company.com>...
Eros wrote:
"+Church of The Painful Truth+" <Atheistsare@fools.com> wrote in message news:<BiVpc.48$de6.126752@news.uswest.net>...
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
What always amuses me is how creationists always blame a supernatural
flood for things that are far more simply and easily explained by
natural events. Haven't they ever heard of tsunamis?
Tsunamis aren't in the Bible, therefore they CAN'T be TRUE events!
Hallefrigginluia!
Oops, never thought of that... dohhhhhhh!
EROS.
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"There is no observational fact imaginable which cannot, one way or
another, be made to fit the creation model." -- Dr. Henry Morris
(Institute for Creation Research)
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| User: "Dick C" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
17 May 2004 07:51:15 AM |
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+Church of The Painful Truth+ wrote in talk.origins
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
So the flood was 500,000,000 years ago?
--
***** #1349
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
~Benjamin Franklin
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email:
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| User: "Sara Brum" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
17 May 2004 08:07:56 AM |
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"***** C" <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns94EC3CBCF2355dickcrcomcastnet@216.196.97.136...
+Church of The Painful Truth+ wrote in talk.origins
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's
storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
So the flood was 500,000,000 years ago?
Remember, we're dealing with people who believe man coexisted with
dinosaurs.
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| User: "VoiceOfReason" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
17 May 2004 07:15:42 PM |
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"Sara Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com> wrote in message news:<2grs6nF63n48U1@uni-berlin.de>...
"***** C" <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns94EC3CBCF2355dickcrcomcastnet@216.196.97.136...
+Church of The Painful Truth+ wrote in talk.origins
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's
storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
So the flood was 500,000,000 years ago?
Remember, we're dealing with people who believe man coexisted with
dinosaurs.
*Gasp* You mean we didn't?!?! ;-)
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| User: "Mike Dworetsky" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 04:04:29 PM |
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"VoiceOfReason" <papa_fox57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6c4d0eab.0405171622.28d9ce4f@posting.google.com...
"Sara Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com> wrote in message
news:<2grs6nF63n48U1@uni-berlin.de>...
"***** C" <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns94EC3CBCF2355dickcrcomcastnet@216.196.97.136...
+Church of The Painful Truth+ wrote in talk.origins
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr
Hagadorn's
storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
So the flood was 500,000,000 years ago?
Remember, we're dealing with people who believe man coexisted with
dinosaurs.
*Gasp* You mean we didn't?!?! ;-)
Sure, didn't you see that Raquel Welch film, _1,000,000 Years BC_ or
something, with the little fur bikini? Plenty of dinosaurs to worry about.
And those paleolithic babes, why, they didn't call the men Erectus for
nothing.
SF films are excellent objective evidence, aren't they? What's that you
say? They aren't? Well, if you are going to go all scientific on us...
--
Mike Dworetsky
(Remove "pants" spamblock to send e-mail)
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| User: "Seamus Ma Cleriec" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 08:29:49 PM |
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(VoiceOfReason) wrote in message news:<6c4d0eab.0405171622.28d9ce4f@posting.google.com>...
"Sara Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com> wrote in message news:<2grs6nF63n48U1@uni-berlin.de>...
"***** C" <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns94EC3CBCF2355dickcrcomcastnet@216.196.97.136...
+Church of The Painful Truth+ wrote in talk.origins
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's
storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
So the flood was 500,000,000 years ago?
Remember, we're dealing with people who believe man coexisted with
dinosaurs.
*Gasp* You mean we didn't?!?! ;-)
Haven't you ever watched the Flintstones ?
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| User: "Ken Shaw" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
17 May 2004 11:52:54 PM |
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VoiceOfReason wrote:
"Sara Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com> wrote in message news:<2grs6nF63n48U1@uni-berlin.de>...
"***** C" <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns94EC3CBCF2355dickcrcomcastnet@216.196.97.136...
+Church of The Painful Truth+ wrote in talk.origins
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's
storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
So the flood was 500,000,000 years ago?
Remember, we're dealing with people who believe man coexisted with
dinosaurs.
*Gasp* You mean we didn't?!?! ;-)
Actually we presently coexist with dinosaurs.
Ken
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Hundreds of jellyfish fossils! |
18 May 2004 12:45:14 AM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 04:52:54 +0000 (UTC) in alt.atheism, Ken Shaw
(Ken Shaw <none.of@your.biz>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
VoiceOfReason wrote:
"Sara Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com> wrote in message news:<2grs6nF63n48U1@uni-berlin.de>...
"***** C" <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns94EC3CBCF2355dickcrcomcastnet@216.196.97.136...
+Church of The Painful Truth+ wrote in talk.origins
So, the evidence fits with the biblical Flood, not with Dr Hagadorn's
storm
tide.As one science commentator said of stranded jellyfish:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/fossils.asp
So the flood was 500,000,000 years ago?
Remember, we're dealing with people who believe man coexisted with
dinosaurs.
*Gasp* You mean we didn't?!?! ;-)
Actually we presently coexist with dinosaurs.
And you can see them at the AiG conference in West Virginia.
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