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"Elroy Willis" |
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21 Aug 2003 09:15:50 AM |
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Hurricane Names |
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
21 Aug 2003 10:03:14 AM |
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Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
Isis
Phoebe
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
21 Aug 2003 09:49:23 AM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
Not to my knowledge. For what it's worth, here are the lists through
2008:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml
From elsewhere on the site (http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/B1.html)
Subject: B1) Why are tropical cyclones named?
Tropical cyclones are named to provide ease of communication between
forecasters and the general public regarding forecasts, watches, and
warnings. Since the storms can often last a week or longer and that more
than one can be occurring in the same basin at the same time, names can
reduce the confusion about what storm is being described. According to
Dunn and Miller (1960), the first use of a proper name for a tropical
cyclone was by an Australian forecaster early in this century. He gave
tropical cyclone names "after political figures whom he disliked. By
properly naming a hurricane, the weatherman could publicly describe a
politician (who perhaps was not too generous with weather-bureau
appropriations) as 'causing great distress' or 'wandering aimlessly
about the Pacific.'" (Perhaps this should be brought back into use ;-)
During World War II, tropical cyclones were informally given women's
names by US Army Air Corp and Navy meteorologists (after their
girlfriends or wives) who were monitoring and forecasting tropical
cyclones over the Pacific. From 1950 to 1952, tropical cyclones of the
North Atlantic Ocean were identified by the phonetic alphabet
(Able-Baker-Charlie-etc.), but in 1953 the US Weather Bureau switched to
women's names. In 1979, the WMO and the US National Weather Service
(NWS) switched to a list of names that also included men's names.
The Northeast Pacific basin tropical cyclones were named using women's
names starting in 1959 for storms near Hawaii and in 1960 for the
remainder of the Northeast Pacific basin. In 1978, both men's and
women's names were utilized.
The Northwest Pacific basin tropical cyclones were given women's names
officially starting in 1945 and men's names were also included beginning
in 1979. Beginning on 1 January 2000, tropical cyclones in the Northwest
Pacific basin are being named from a new and very different list of
names. The new names are Asian names and were contributed by all the
nations and territories that are members of the WMO's Typhoon Committee.
These newly selected names have two major differences from the rest of
the world's tropical cyclone name rosters. One, the names by and large
are not personal names. There are a few men's and women's names, but the
majority are names of flowers, animals, birds, trees, or even foods,
etc, while some are descriptive adjectives. Secondly, the names will not
be allotted in alphabetical order, but are arranged by contributing
nation with the countries being alphabetized.
The North Indian Ocean region tropical cyclones are not named.
The Southwest Indian Ocean tropical cyclones were first named during the
1960/1961 season.
The Australian and South Pacific region (east of 90E, south of the
equator) started giving women's names to the storms in 1964 and both
men's and women's names in 1974/1975.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
21 Aug 2003 01:26:56 PM |
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Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism
There are a few men's and women's names, but the majority are
names of flowers, animals, birds, trees, or even foods,
Foods? Now there's a fun playground for storm names...
Tropical storm "Whopper" ravaged the east coast today, sending 100
foot tidal waves into Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina shores.
Hurricane "Big Mac" took the lives of dozens of gulf coast residents
today as it sent torrential rains into Texas and Louisiana.
Not that storms are anything to laugh about, but you have to admit
that just naming them after men and women is a bit boring if not
confining. I like the food idea... Not sure about the flower idea...
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
21 Aug 2003 02:12:59 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism
There are a few men's and women's names, but the majority are
names of flowers, animals, birds, trees, or even foods,
Foods? Now there's a fun playground for storm names...
Tropical storm "Whopper" ravaged the east coast today, sending 100
foot tidal waves into Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina shores.
Hurricane "Big Mac" took the lives of dozens of gulf coast residents
today as it sent torrential rains into Texas and Louisiana.
Not that storms are anything to laugh about, but you have to admit
that just naming them after men and women is a bit boring if not
confining. I like the food idea... Not sure about the flower idea...
Eh, you're quoting me quoting someone else :-P
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
21 Aug 2003 02:47:16 PM |
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Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism
There are a few men's and women's names, but the majority are
names of flowers, animals, birds, trees, or even foods,
Foods? Now there's a fun playground for storm names...
Tropical storm "Whopper" ravaged the east coast today, sending 100
foot tidal waves into Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina shores.
Hurricane "Big Mac" took the lives of dozens of gulf coast residents
today as it sent torrential rains into Texas and Louisiana.
Not that storms are anything to laugh about, but you have to admit
that just naming them after men and women is a bit boring if not
downright confining. I like the food idea... Not sure about the flower
idea...
Hurricane Daffodil or Sunflower doesn't work for me. A Hurricane
Rose on the other hand...
Eh, you're quoting me quoting someone else :-P
Sorry. I thought it was you. You gotta admit the food name idea
has all kinds of good possibilities, though, don't you? :-)
Tropical Storm "Wendy" just doesn't have the power appeal of
a Whopper or Big Mac storm, don't you think?
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
21 Aug 2003 03:12:21 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism
You gotta admit the food name idea
has all kinds of good possibilities, though, don't you? :-)
Tropical Storm "Wendy" just doesn't have the power appeal of
a Whopper or Big Mac storm, don't you think?
Yeah, but the names are all coming from Asian countries, so "Big Mac" isn't all
that likely. However.... You should have seen the mess left by Sushi!
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
21 Aug 2003 03:46:28 PM |
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Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism
You gotta admit the food name idea has all kinds of good possibilities,
though, don't you? :-)
Tropical Storm "Wendy" just doesn't have the power appeal of
a Whopper or Big Mac storm, don't you think?
Yeah, but the names are all coming from Asian countries, so "Big Mac"
isn't all that likely. However.... You should have seen the mess left by Sushi!
Raw fish everywhere, stinking and rotting after the sun came out no
doubt.
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Phillip Brown" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
21 Aug 2003 11:34:29 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:26:56 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism
There are a few men's and women's names, but the majority are
names of flowers, animals, birds, trees, or even foods,
Foods? Now there's a fun playground for storm names...
Tropical storm "Whopper" ravaged the east coast today, sending 100
foot tidal waves into Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina shores.
Hurricane "Big Mac" took the lives of dozens of gulf coast residents
today as it sent torrential rains into Texas and Louisiana.
Not that storms are anything to laugh about, but you have to admit
that just naming them after men and women is a bit boring if not
confining. I like the food idea... Not sure about the flower idea...
Today's hurricane is proudly sponsored by......
phillip brown
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
22 Aug 2003 08:18:18 AM |
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Phillip Brown wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:26:56 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism
There are a few men's and women's names, but the majority are
names of flowers, animals, birds, trees, or even foods,
Foods? Now there's a fun playground for storm names...
Tropical storm "Whopper" ravaged the east coast today, sending 100
foot tidal waves into Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina shores.
Hurricane "Big Mac" took the lives of dozens of gulf coast residents
today as it sent torrential rains into Texas and Louisiana.
Not that storms are anything to laugh about, but you have to admit
that just naming them after men and women is a bit boring if not
confining. I like the food idea... Not sure about the flower idea...
Today's hurricane is proudly sponsored by......
phillip brown
I await the day when corporate sponsors and special interest groups start
buying the naming rights to tropical storms. How much I would like to
see....
"Phillip Morris kill 30 people today, and caused damage estimated at 3.1
million. The governor has called a state of emergency...."
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
21 Aug 2003 05:36:39 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:15:50 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
wrote:
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
http://www.fema.gov/kids/hunames.htm
"For hundreds of year, hurricanes in the West Indies were named
after the particular saint's day on which the hurricane
occurred."
There may be a few gods among them. Some Christian 'saints' have
been exposed as pagan saints, heros or gods - sometimes with a
slight change in spelling. IIRC, one saint was actually traced
back to Gautama the Buddha!
I haven't seen a list of those historic names, but the above web
site has lists of currently available names, as well as a list of
'retired' names have been used for particularly damaging
hurricanes; these names are not reused for at least 10 years.
Such a large number of Christian names - some of them must surely
be named after Gods. Somewhere on the web must be a dictionary
giving the meaning of Christian names. I spotted the following:
Isis an Egyptian Goddess.
There is Cesar, possibly derived from Julius Ceaser who was
declared to be a God by the Roman senate :)
Tara ... I think she is a Hindu Goddess.
Marilyn, a very well known Goddess :)
Kansan might be disappointed to see that Heidi is missing.
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Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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21 Aug 2003 01:36:43 PM |
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Walking on Glass wrote in alt.atheism
And it came to pass that Elroy Willis did write in alt.atheism
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
Current and future names here. At a quick glance I spotted an "Isis", but I
spotted a "Fanny" also!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml
I wonder why major tornadoes aren't given names? Maybe there's just
too many of 'em to keep track of.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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21 Aug 2003 03:37:51 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Walking on Glass wrote in alt.atheism
And it came to pass that Elroy Willis did write in alt.atheism
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
Current and future names here. At a quick glance I spotted an "Isis", but I
spotted a "Fanny" also!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml
I wonder why major tornadoes aren't given names? Maybe there's just
too many of 'em to keep track of.
They don't last long enough.
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
21 Aug 2003 04:44:51 PM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Walking on Glass wrote in alt.atheism
And it came to pass that Elroy Willis did write in alt.atheism
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
Current and future names here. At a quick glance I spotted an "Isis", but I
spotted a "Fanny" also!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml
I wonder why major tornadoes aren't given names? Maybe there's just
too many of 'em to keep track of.
They don't last long enough.
That's one reason I suppose. I noticed that hurricane names are
'retired for good' if they caused a certain amount of damage while
they were active. I've lived in tornado country most of my life, but
can't think of any tornado names, even though some big ones hit close
to where I've lived and killed bunches of people. Gotta try to
remember 'em by the year and month instead of by some name,
just like we remember other monumental things.
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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21 Aug 2003 04:59:52 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Walking on Glass wrote in alt.atheism
And it came to pass that Elroy Willis did write in alt.atheism
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
Current and future names here. At a quick glance I spotted an "Isis", but I
spotted a "Fanny" also!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml
I wonder why major tornadoes aren't given names? Maybe there's just
too many of 'em to keep track of.
They don't last long enough.
That's one reason I suppose. I noticed that hurricane names are
'retired for good' if they caused a certain amount of damage while
they were active. I've lived in tornado country most of my life, but
can't think of any tornado names, even though some big ones hit close
to where I've lived and killed bunches of people. Gotta try to
remember 'em by the year and month instead of by some name,
just like we remember other monumental things.
I've seen a few waterspouts but they usually only last a few minutes and
maybe blow some debris and mud around if they come ashore. One managed
to bust up a sailboat regatta. I'm sure the sailors had a few names for
it. :-)
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Harry Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
23 Aug 2003 09:13:25 AM |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:36:43 -0500, Elroy Willis wrote
(in message <v34akvoqv0jq2ufpf3ftam44lh7ioa10ii@4ax.com>):
From: Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Walking on Glass wrote in alt.atheism
And it came to pass that Elroy Willis did write in alt.atheism
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
Current and future names here. At a quick glance I spotted an "Isis", but
I
spotted a "Fanny" also!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml
I wonder why major tornadoes aren't given names? Maybe there's just
too many of 'em to keep track of.
In regard to my comment about tornados not lasting more than an hour, I must
state that there was at least one that lasted three and a half hours, in 1925
March 18th, the Tri-State tornado, which killed more than 600 people in three
states. The path-length was two hundred and nineteen miles, staying on the
ground the entire time.
As far as I know this was the only tornado that was this long-lived, it was
an F-5 on the Fuji scale.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
"I think that's a reason why so many of the Christian posters fail to respond
to questions or comments in their own threads. They're dropping God bombs,
and they can't chance being hit by the shrapnel." - Marvin
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
23 Aug 2003 10:21:10 AM |
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Harry Leopold <hleopold@cox.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote
From: Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Walking on Glass wrote in alt.atheism
And it came to pass that Elroy Willis did write in alt.atheism
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
Current and future names here. At a quick glance I spotted an "Isis", but
I spotted a "Fanny" also!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml
I wonder why major tornadoes aren't given names? Maybe there's just
too many of 'em to keep track of.
In regard to my comment about tornados not lasting more than an hour, I must
state that there was at least one that lasted three and a half hours, in 1925
March 18th, the Tri-State tornado, which killed more than 600 people in three
states. The path-length was two hundred and nineteen miles, staying on the
ground the entire time.
As far as I know this was the only tornado that was this long-lived, it was
an F-5 on the Fuji scale.
I should've read this post of yours first.. I mentioned the same
tornado in my last post.
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Harry Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
23 Aug 2003 08:51:56 AM |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:36:43 -0500, Elroy Willis wrote
(in message <v34akvoqv0jq2ufpf3ftam44lh7ioa10ii@4ax.com>):
From: Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Walking on Glass wrote in alt.atheism
And it came to pass that Elroy Willis did write in alt.atheism
Can anybody think of any hurricanes which were named with some
god name? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Any Atlas or Apollo or Aphrodite or Athena hurricanes or storms?
Current and future names here. At a quick glance I spotted an "Isis", but
I spotted a "Fanny" also!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml
I wonder why major tornadoes aren't given names? Maybe there's just
too many of 'em to keep track of.
They just don't last long enough, by the time you got around to naming one it
would be long gone. (Does anyone know if there has ever been a tornado that
has lasted as long as an hour?)
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
"The line separating painfully bad analogies from weirdly good ones is as
thin as a soup made from the shadow of a chicken that was starved to death."
- Alydar2
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Hurricane Names |
23 Aug 2003 10:19:09 AM |
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Harry Leopold <hleopold@cox.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
I wonder why major tornadoes aren't given names? Maybe there's just
too many of 'em to keep track of.
They just don't last long enough, by the time you got around to naming
one it would be long gone. (Does anyone know if there has ever been a
tornado that has lasted as long as an hour?)
I'm not sure about a whole hour, but several that I've read about last
as long as fifteen minutes or so.
This from:
http://www.jsonline.com/weather/wtmj/longtornados.stm
"One of those was the Tri-State tornado in March of 1925, the
country's most deadly tornado ever recorded. The track was 219 miles
long from Missouri through southern Illinois and into Indiana, with a
path width of up to a mile at times. This mammoth tornado tore up the
countryside in three states, leaving around 800 fatalities behind."
I'd imagine that it took more than an hour to move across three
states.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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