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21 Mar 2007 01:14:16 PM |
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Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex |
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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21 Mar 2007 02:01:29 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:vct203h7q6m339gv1egi1d3m8m0g1scj18@4ax.com...
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
There are no words. How fucking barbaric :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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01 Apr 2007 02:05:56 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:01:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:vct203h7q6m339gv1egi1d3m8m0g1scj18@4ax.com...
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
[]
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
There are no words. How fucking barbaric :(
That's Abrahamic theism for you. A 23 year old lady who's now and
forever in a nightmare of darkness. :\
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "" |
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21 Mar 2007 12:17:10 PM |
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On Mar 21, 1:14 pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Yeah. It's called "Islam".
-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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21 Mar 2007 12:57:15 PM |
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<panamfloyd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174497430.879939.294240@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 21, 1:14 pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Yeah. It's called "Islam".
No *****.
I've got the lawyers fuckin' "extenuating circumstances" right here...
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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21 Mar 2007 02:03:46 PM |
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On Mar 21, 12:57 pm, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com> wrote:
<panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174497430.879939.294240@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 21, 1:14 pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Yeah. It's called "Islam".
No *****.
I've got the lawyers fuckin' "extenuating circumstances" right here...
I think the thing that makes me the angriest is that there is a good-
sized portion of the world where men do things like this-and are
*never* punished. As much as I dislike Christianity, I have to admit
that it's been de-clawed in much of the world. Islam, on the other
hand has not been domesticated one itty-bitty bit.
I have to laugh sometimes...when the subject of Islam is raised, I
sound just like Fred. I really, really, hate that religion.
-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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21 Mar 2007 02:43:38 PM |
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On Mar 21, 12:03 pm, wrote:
On Mar 21, 12:57 pm, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com> wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1174497430.879939.294240@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 21, 1:14 pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Yeah. It's called "Islam".
No *****.
I've got the lawyers fuckin' "extenuating circumstances" right here...
I think the thing that makes me the angriest is that there is a good-
sized portion of the world where men do things like this-and are
*never* punished. As much as I dislike Christianity, I have to admit
that it's been de-clawed in much of the world. Islam, on the other
hand has not been domesticated one itty-bitty bit.
I have to laugh sometimes...when the subject of Islam is raised, I
sound just like Fred. I really, really, hate that religion.
Yo tambien.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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21 Mar 2007 02:42:48 PM |
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On Mar 21, 3:03?pm, wrote:
On Mar 21, 12:57 pm, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com> wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1174497430.879939.294240@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 21, 1:14 pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Yeah. It's called "Islam".
No *****.
I've got the lawyers fuckin' "extenuating circumstances" right here...
I think the thing that makes me the angriest is that there is a good-
sized portion of the world where men do things like this-and are
*never* punished. As much as I dislike Christianity, I have to admit
that it's been de-clawed in much of the world. Islam, on the other
hand has not been domesticated one itty-bitty bit.
I have to laugh sometimes...when the subject of Islam is raised, I
sound just like Fred. I really, really, hate that religion.
-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!- Hide quoted text -
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Maybe she'll be willing to have sex with him now that she can't see.
I'm sorry.
That was very rude. And insensitive. And inappropriate.
Lana (who is really working on being a better person.)
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21 Mar 2007 03:42:31 PM |
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<LanaXZR@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1174506168.708691.10320@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 21, 3:03?pm, wrote:
On Mar 21, 12:57 pm, "Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com> wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1174497430.879939.294240@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 21, 1:14 pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern
French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was
permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally
arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture
and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling
the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from
ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were
extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from
southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's
action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Yeah. It's called "Islam".
No *****.
I've got the lawyers fuckin' "extenuating circumstances" right here...
I think the thing that makes me the angriest is that there is a good-
sized portion of the world where men do things like this-and are
*never* punished. As much as I dislike Christianity, I have to admit
that it's been de-clawed in much of the world. Islam, on the other
hand has not been domesticated one itty-bitty bit.
I have to laugh sometimes...when the subject of Islam is raised, I
sound just like Fred. I really, really, hate that religion.
-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Maybe she'll be willing to have sex with him now that she can't see.
I'm sorry.
That was very rude. And insensitive. And inappropriate.
Lana (who is really working on being a better person.)
Have you considered that accuracy is important? Rudeness is not only ok if
you're addressing a Klansman or nazi, it's positively required! It's ok to
be rude, you just have to make sure you're being rude to the correct people.
;-)
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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21 Mar 2007 05:31:04 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:14:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Well...alrighty then.
That clears things up a bit.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Frontal lobotomy appears to be in order.
Nurse!!!
atheist@home#1554
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22 Mar 2007 10:03:34 AM |
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<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:h9c3035pm3avkvic6m63at50t508kdsmli@4ax.com...
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:14:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Well...alrighty then.
That clears things up a bit.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Frontal lobotomy appears to be in order.
Frontal lobotomy? How about castration? Done slowly. Without anesthesia.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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22 Mar 2007 01:36:00 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:03:34 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:h9c3035pm3avkvic6m63at50t508kdsmli@4ax.com...
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:14:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Well...alrighty then.
That clears things up a bit.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Frontal lobotomy appears to be in order.
Frontal lobotomy? How about castration? Done slowly. Without anesthesia.
Yeah, I like that better.
What an evil ***** he is.
atheist@home#1554
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22 Mar 2007 03:55:19 PM |
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<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:5si50392gnbeijf978qp0shvmgrup0vsv8@4ax.com...
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:03:34 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:h9c3035pm3avkvic6m63at50t508kdsmli@4ax.com...
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:14:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Well...alrighty then.
That clears things up a bit.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Frontal lobotomy appears to be in order.
Frontal lobotomy? How about castration? Done slowly. Without anesthesia.
Yeah, I like that better.
What an evil ***** he is.
Well, not a ***** (ahem, I am one myself), but definitely evil.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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01 Apr 2007 02:11:00 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:31:04 -0500, wrote in
alt.atheism
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:14:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex
Article from: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes
following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French
city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently
blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested
and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and
barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30
years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the
defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever
returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating
circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he
said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern
Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Well...alrighty then.
That clears things up a bit.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action
"appeared to stem from a mental illness."
Frontal lobotomy appears to be in order.
Nurse!!!
How about vivisection?
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21 Mar 2007 04:54:59 PM |
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stoney wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
<snip sad report>
Wanted to post this already, but it fits here. And to say it up front:
I'm not happy. Not at all. This is something I could never have
imagined. Not in 2007, not by a FEMALE judge, not in Germany.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,473017,00.html
JUSTIFYING MARITAL VIOLENCE
A German Judge Cites Koran in Divorce Case
By Veit Medick and Anna Reimann
He beat her and threatened her with murder. But because husband and wife
were both from Morocco, a German divorce court judge saw no cause for
alarm. It's a religion thing, she argued.
The case seems simply too strange to be true. A 26-year-old mother of
two wanted to free herself from what had become a miserable and abusive
marriage. The police had even been called to their apartment to separate
the two -- both of Moroccan origin -- after her husband got violent in
May 2006. The husband was forced to move out, but the terror continued:
Even after they separated, the spurned husband threatened to kill his wife.
A quick divorce seemed to be the only solution -- the 26-year-old was
unwilling to wait the year between separation and divorce mandated by
German law. She hoped that as soon as they were no longer married, her
husband would leave her alone. Her lawyer, Barbara Becker-Rojczyk agreed
and she filed for immediate divorce with a Frankfurt court last October.
They both felt that the domestic violence and death threats easily
fulfilled the "hardship" criteria necessary for such an accelerated split.
In January, though, a letter arrived from the judge adjudicating the
case. The judge rejected the application for a speedy divorce by
referring to a passage in the Koran that some have controversially
interpreted to mean that a husband can beat his wife. It's a supposed
right which is the subject of intense debate among Muslim scholars and
clerics alike."The exercise of the right to castigate does not fulfill
the hardship criteria as defined by Paragraph 1565 (of German federal
law)," the daily Frankfurter Rundschau quoted the judge's letter as
saying. It must be taken into account, the judge argued, that both man
and wife have Moroccan backgrounds.
"The husband can beat his wife"
"The right to castigate means for me: the husband can beat his wife,"
Becker-Rojczyk said, interpreting the judge's verdict.
In an interview with SPIEGEL ONLINE, Becker-Rojczyk said the judge
indicated to her that it makes no sense to insist on an accelerated
divorce. The judge's advice? Wait for the year-long waiting period to
elapse.
The lawyer and her client were shocked. Immediately, they filed a claim
alleging that the judge should have recused herself due to a conflict of
interest. They felt that, because of the point of view presented by the
judge, she was unable to reach an objective verdict. In the reply sent
to Becker-Rojczyk, the judge expressly referred to a Koran verse -- or
sura -- which indicates that a man's honor is injured when his wife
behaves in an unchaste manner. "Apparently the judge deems it unchaste
when my client adapts a Western lifestyle," Becker-Rojczyk said.
On Tuesday evening, Becker-Rojczyk expressed amazement that the judge
was still on the bench, given that the controversial verdict was handed
down weeks ago. Becker-Rojczyk had elected to go public with the case to
attract attention to the judge's conduct. It seems to have worked. On
Wednesday, after the Tuesday evening publication of the story on SPIEGEL
ONLINE, the attorney received a fax from the Frankfurt court granting
the conflict of interest claim and excusing the judge from the case.
[[I'll add something here, based on other reports in German: The request
to remove this judge from that case was filed on January 24. The court
did nothing for almost two month, and everything within two days after
the story was published. No activist judges there, apparently.]]
Still, it is unlikely that the case will be heard again before the
mandated year of separation expires in May. But the judge who heard the
case may have to face further consequences for her decision. On
Wednesday, numerous politicians in Berlin voiced their horror at the
verdict -- and demanded disciplinary action against the judge.
Further investigation
"In my opinion, this is a case of extreme violation of the rule of law
that can't be solved with a mere conflict of interest ruling," Social
Democrat parliamentarian Dieter Wiefelspütz told SPIEGEL ONLINE. "There
have to be further consequences. This is a case for judicial supervision
-- this case needs to be further investigated."
The deputy floor leader for the Christian Democrats, Wolfgang Bosbach,
agreed. "This is a sad example of how the conception of the law from
another legal and cultural environment is taken as the basis for our own
notion of law," he said on Wednesday.
This isn't the first time that German courts have used cultural
background to inform their verdicts. Christa Stolle of the women's
rights organization Terre des Femmes said that in cases of marital
violence, there have been a number of cases where the perpetrator's
culture of origin has been considered as a mitigating circumstance --
although such verdicts have become seldom in recent years.
But there remains quite a bit of work to do. "In my work educating
sexist and short-sighted Muslim men," asked Michaela Sulaika Kaiser of
the Network for Muslim Women, "do I now have to convince German courts
that women are also people on the same level with men and that they,
like any other human, have the right to be protected from physical and
psychological violence?"
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01 Apr 2007 02:10:35 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:54:59 -0400, "j.m. #1491" <j.m.1491@gmx.net>
wrote in alt.atheism
stoney wrote:
http://www.news.com.au//story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html
<snip sad report>
Wanted to post this already, but it fits here. And to say it up front:
I'm not happy. Not at all. This is something I could never have
imagined. Not in 2007, not by a FEMALE judge, not in Germany.
I agree. I'm shocked speechless. Tenets of a superstition do not
override national law.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,473017,00.html
JUSTIFYING MARITAL VIOLENCE
A German Judge Cites Koran in Divorce Case
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
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at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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