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User: "lw8112"
Date: 02 Oct 2006 12:31:49 PM
Object: I and christianity
I used to believe in God. It's true I was never terribly fervent, but I
believed he existed, was good and the ten commandments and the golden
rule were good things. Unfortunately I went from the Bible of the
Children to the real stuff. what I found was a terrible lot of old
rules and people who didn't trust in God. The patriarches ran instead
of to stand fast and trust in God. Unfortunately it seemed also that
they did right. All of them were promised the holy Land not only for
their seed without also for themselves and none of them got it. Jacob
and his son Joseph was promised to get to die in Israel and they died
both in Egypt. Besides there is the Plagues over Egypt which reminds me
of a man who binds his victim to a stool and take a whip and and use it
on the bound and the whole time says if you stand up I'm going to end.
it was in effect what God did to Egypt. Pharaoh couldn't let the jews
go because God didn't let him. Thus the Plagues was inevitablee from
the first. There is also Job. Something of the cruelest I have read and
everything is approved of God. Besides God's inability to only forbid
the angels to couple with human women, his fear for the tower of Bable
and how he exiled Adam and Eve to hinder them from to eat fruit from
the Tree of life is hardly flattering.
If it only was so I could accept it and similar problems as fables and
that the old testament isn't really a part of the Christian belief.
Even if the Christian says different My next problem was on the other
hand with the core of the belief Jesus Christus as sin offering. I
don't believe that a God who demand his own son's blood is worth to get
worshipped. Besides why does a few hours on a cross obtain forgiveness,
when many people has died worse deaths both before and after and they
weren't resurrected. Also Revelations is cruelty not only against
humanity without also against the animals. It's apparent that God
really hasn't changed.
Thus I don't know if God exists, but I can't worship him. It.s wrong to
follow such a creature. I'm sure that it will send me to hell if God
is, but I have the comfort that I probably will be joined by everyone
except maybe the cruelest of the christian. After all why would God
hold his word to them. He is supposedly omnipotent and there is nobody
who can force him. Mark well I don't know if there is a God. I have
seen no sign of it, but a omnipotent creature can surely hide himself
and God of the Bible would probably find pleasure in to judge people
to hell based on that they did spend their life thinking instead of
slavishly following the Bible.
.

User: "Bill M"

Title: Re: I and christianity 02 Oct 2006 01:33:28 PM
Another 'thinking and wise' person!
"lw8112" <torgnywickman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159792309.770257.114570@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

I used to believe in God. It's true I was never terribly fervent, but I
believed he existed, was good and the ten commandments and the golden
rule were good things. Unfortunately I went from the Bible of the
Children to the real stuff. what I found was a terrible lot of old
rules and people who didn't trust in God. The patriarches ran instead
of to stand fast and trust in God. Unfortunately it seemed also that
they did right. All of them were promised the holy Land not only for
their seed without also for themselves and none of them got it. Jacob
and his son Joseph was promised to get to die in Israel and they died
both in Egypt. Besides there is the Plagues over Egypt which reminds me
of a man who binds his victim to a stool and take a whip and and use it
on the bound and the whole time says if you stand up I'm going to end.
it was in effect what God did to Egypt. Pharaoh couldn't let the jews
go because God didn't let him. Thus the Plagues was inevitablee from
the first. There is also Job. Something of the cruelest I have read and
everything is approved of God. Besides God's inability to only forbid
the angels to couple with human women, his fear for the tower of Bable
and how he exiled Adam and Eve to hinder them from to eat fruit from
the Tree of life is hardly flattering.

If it only was so I could accept it and similar problems as fables and
that the old testament isn't really a part of the Christian belief.
Even if the Christian says different My next problem was on the other
hand with the core of the belief Jesus Christus as sin offering. I
don't believe that a God who demand his own son's blood is worth to get
worshipped. Besides why does a few hours on a cross obtain forgiveness,
when many people has died worse deaths both before and after and they
weren't resurrected. Also Revelations is cruelty not only against
humanity without also against the animals. It's apparent that God
really hasn't changed.

Thus I don't know if God exists, but I can't worship him. It.s wrong to
follow such a creature. I'm sure that it will send me to hell if God
is, but I have the comfort that I probably will be joined by everyone
except maybe the cruelest of the christian. After all why would God
hold his word to them. He is supposedly omnipotent and there is nobody
who can force him. Mark well I don't know if there is a God. I have
seen no sign of it, but a omnipotent creature can surely hide himself
and God of the Bible would probably find pleasure in to judge people
to hell based on that they did spend their life thinking instead of
slavishly following the Bible.

.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: I and christianity 07 Oct 2006 10:20:27 PM
On 2 Oct 2006 05:31:49 -0700, "lw8112" <torgnywickman@hotmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism

I used to believe in God. It's true I was never terribly fervent, but I
believed he existed, was good and the ten commandments and the golden
rule were good things. Unfortunately I went from the Bible of the
Children to the real stuff.

Yes.

what I found was a terrible lot of old
rules and people who didn't trust in God. The patriarches ran instead
of to stand fast and trust in God. Unfortunately it seemed also that
they did right. All of them were promised the holy Land not only for
their seed without also for themselves and none of them got it. Jacob
and his son Joseph was promised to get to die in Israel and they died
both in Egypt. Besides there is the Plagues over Egypt which reminds me
of a man who binds his victim to a stool and take a whip and and use it
on the bound and the whole time says if you stand up I'm going to end.
it was in effect what God did to Egypt. Pharaoh couldn't let the jews
go because God didn't let him. Thus the Plagues was inevitablee from
the first. There is also Job. Something of the cruelest I have read and
everything is approved of God. Besides God's inability to only forbid
the angels to couple with human women, his fear for the tower of Bable
and how he exiled Adam and Eve to hinder them from to eat fruit from
the Tree of life is hardly flattering.

Nothing about the Christian Daemon Deities are flattering.

If it only was so I could accept it and similar problems as fables and
that the old testament isn't really a part of the Christian belief.
Even if the Christian says different My next problem was on the other
hand with the core of the belief Jesus Christus as sin offering.

'Jesus' was a hefty sinner and a hypocrite, but that didn't count
against him.

I
don't believe that a God who demand his own son's blood is worth to get
worshipped. Besides why does a few hours on a cross obtain forgiveness,
when many people has died worse deaths both before and after and they
weren't resurrected. Also Revelations is cruelty not only against
humanity without also against the animals. It's apparent that God
really hasn't changed.

Why should it?

Thus I don't know if God exists, but I can't worship him. It.s wrong to
follow such a creature. I'm sure that it will send me to hell if God
is, but I have the comfort that I probably will be joined by everyone
except maybe the cruelest of the christian. After all why would God
hold his word to them. He is supposedly omnipotent and there is nobody
who can force him. Mark well I don't know if there is a God. I have
seen no sign of it, but a omnipotent creature can surely hide himself
and God of the Bible would probably find pleasure in to judge people
to hell based on that they did spend their life thinking instead of
slavishly following the Bible.

God doesn't exist. Welcome to the zoo.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Greywolf"

Title: Re: I and christianity 08 Oct 2006 12:51:54 AM
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:ps9gi2hq48pcf8d19kt4cs4k4qqq9b21io@4ax.com...

On 2 Oct 2006 05:31:49 -0700, "lw8112" <torgnywickman@hotmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism

I used to believe in God. It's true I was never terribly fervent, but I
believed he existed, was good and the ten commandments and the golden
rule were good things. Unfortunately I went from the Bible of the
Children to the real stuff.


Yes.

what I found was a terrible lot of old
rules and people who didn't trust in God. The patriarches ran instead
of to stand fast and trust in God. Unfortunately it seemed also that
they did right. All of them were promised the holy Land not only for
their seed without also for themselves and none of them got it. Jacob
and his son Joseph was promised to get to die in Israel and they died
both in Egypt. Besides there is the Plagues over Egypt which reminds me
of a man who binds his victim to a stool and take a whip and and use it
on the bound and the whole time says if you stand up I'm going to end.
it was in effect what God did to Egypt. Pharaoh couldn't let the jews
go because God didn't let him. Thus the Plagues was inevitablee from
the first. There is also Job. Something of the cruelest I have read and
everything is approved of God. Besides God's inability to only forbid
the angels to couple with human women, his fear for the tower of Bable
and how he exiled Adam and Eve to hinder them from to eat fruit from
the Tree of life is hardly flattering.


Nothing about the Christian Daemon Deities are flattering.

If it only was so I could accept it and similar problems as fables and
that the old testament isn't really a part of the Christian belief.
Even if the Christian says different My next problem was on the other
hand with the core of the belief Jesus Christus as sin offering.


'Jesus' was a hefty sinner and a hypocrite, but that didn't count
against him.


I
don't believe that a God who demand his own son's blood is worth to get
worshipped. Besides why does a few hours on a cross obtain forgiveness,
when many people has died worse deaths both before and after and they
weren't resurrected. Also Revelations is cruelty not only against
humanity without also against the animals. It's apparent that God
really hasn't changed.


Why should it?

Thus I don't know if God exists, but I can't worship him. It.s wrong to
follow such a creature. I'm sure that it will send me to hell if God
is, but I have the comfort that I probably will be joined by everyone
except maybe the cruelest of the christian. After all why would God
hold his word to them. He is supposedly omnipotent and there is nobody
who can force him. Mark well I don't know if there is a God. I have
seen no sign of it, but a omnipotent creature can surely hide himself
and God of the Bible would probably find pleasure in to judge people
to hell based on that they did spend their life thinking instead of
slavishly following the Bible.


God doesn't exist. Welcome to the zoo.


--

The story of Job was one of the disgusting aspects of the whole Jesus/God
'thing' that did it for me. We have a 'God' who permits the horrible
suffering of a totally devout and faithful Job -- including the murder of
his sons and daughters -- just to win a 'bet' with the personification of
evil whom the *Almighty* created and allowed to live. (In fact, go
unpunished.) Pretty damn disgusting -- even though it *is* all fiction. What
a 'God' the Jesus people worship and adore, eh'?
Greywolf
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: I and christianity 09 Oct 2006 05:52:17 PM
On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 19:51:54 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:ps9gi2hq48pcf8d19kt4cs4k4qqq9b21io@4ax.com...

On 2 Oct 2006 05:31:49 -0700, "lw8112" <torgnywickman@hotmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism

[]

Thus I don't know if God exists, but I can't worship him. It.s wrong to
follow such a creature. I'm sure that it will send me to hell if God
is, but I have the comfort that I probably will be joined by everyone
except maybe the cruelest of the christian. After all why would God
hold his word to them. He is supposedly omnipotent and there is nobody
who can force him. Mark well I don't know if there is a God. I have
seen no sign of it, but a omnipotent creature can surely hide himself
and God of the Bible would probably find pleasure in to judge people
to hell based on that they did spend their life thinking instead of
slavishly following the Bible.


God doesn't exist. Welcome to the zoo.


--

The story of Job was one of the disgusting aspects of the whole Jesus/God
'thing' that did it for me. We have a 'God' who permits the horrible
suffering of a totally devout and faithful Job -- including the murder of
his sons and daughters -- just to win a 'bet' with the personification of
evil whom the *Almighty* created and allowed to live. (In fact, go
unpunished.) Pretty damn disgusting -- even though it *is* all fiction. What
a 'God' the Jesus people worship and adore, eh'?

Only via stark raving terror. The common Christian utterance of
"God-fearing" demonstrates that.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.



User: "bk"

Title: Re: I and christianity 04 Oct 2006 02:20:22 AM
lw8112 wrote:

I used to believe in God. It's true I was never terribly fervent, but I
believed he existed, was good and the ten commandments and the golden
rule were good things. Unfortunately I went from the Bible of the
Children to the real stuff. what I found was a terrible lot of old
rules and people who didn't trust in God. The patriarches ran instead
of to stand fast and trust in God. Unfortunately it seemed also that
they did right. All of them were promised the holy Land not only for
their seed without also for themselves and none of them got it. Jacob
and his son Joseph was promised to get to die in Israel and they died
both in Egypt. Besides there is the Plagues over Egypt which reminds me
of a man who binds his victim to a stool and take a whip and and use it
on the bound and the whole time says if you stand up I'm going to end.
it was in effect what God did to Egypt. Pharaoh couldn't let the jews
go because God didn't let him. Thus the Plagues was inevitablee from
the first. There is also Job. Something of the cruelest I have read and
everything is approved of God. Besides God's inability to only forbid
the angels to couple with human women, his fear for the tower of Bable
and how he exiled Adam and Eve to hinder them from to eat fruit from
the Tree of life is hardly flattering.

If it only was so I could accept it and similar problems as fables and
that the old testament isn't really a part of the Christian belief.
Even if the Christian says different My next problem was on the other
hand with the core of the belief Jesus Christus as sin offering. I
don't believe that a God who demand his own son's blood is worth to get
worshipped. Besides why does a few hours on a cross obtain forgiveness,
when many people has died worse deaths both before and after and they
weren't resurrected. Also Revelations is cruelty not only against
humanity without also against the animals. It's apparent that God
really hasn't changed.

Thus I don't know if God exists, but I can't worship him. It.s wrong to
follow such a creature. I'm sure that it will send me to hell if God
is, but I have the comfort that I probably will be joined by everyone
except maybe the cruelest of the christian. After all why would God
hold his word to them. He is supposedly omnipotent and there is nobody
who can force him. Mark well I don't know if there is a God. I have
seen no sign of it, but a omnipotent creature can surely hide himself
and God of the Bible would probably find pleasure in to judge people
to hell based on that they did spend their life thinking instead of
slavishly following the Bible.

It's weird. I had fundie tendencies before discovering what was
actually in the bible. It had to all be true, or else what was the
point? If it is open to non-literal interpretation, then how can you
know what is really real? Some passages just don't make sense even if
interpreted in an allegorical sense.
bk
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: I and christianity 07 Oct 2006 10:27:26 PM
On 3 Oct 2006 19:20:22 -0700, "bk" <backandforthhope@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism


lw8112 wrote:

I used to believe in God.

[]

Thus I don't know if God exists, but I can't worship him. It.s wrong to
follow such a creature. I'm sure that it will send me to hell if God
is, but I have the comfort that I probably will be joined by everyone
except maybe the cruelest of the christian. After all why would God
hold his word to them. He is supposedly omnipotent and there is nobody
who can force him. Mark well I don't know if there is a God. I have
seen no sign of it, but a omnipotent creature can surely hide himself
and God of the Bible would probably find pleasure in to judge people
to hell based on that they did spend their life thinking instead of
slavishly following the Bible.


It's weird. I had fundie tendencies before discovering what was
actually in the bible. It had to all be true, or else what was the
point?

It's much much worse. What was the point if it all *was* true?

If it is open to non-literal interpretation, then how can you
know what is really real?

Exactly.

Some passages just don't make sense even if
interpreted in an allegorical sense.

Since none of it makes sense in the first place....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "bk"

Title: Re: I and christianity 09 Oct 2006 11:27:51 PM
stoney wrote:

On 3 Oct 2006 19:20:22 -0700, "bk" <backandforthhope@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

[]


It's weird. I had fundie tendencies before discovering what was
actually in the bible. It had to all be true, or else what was the
point?


It's much much worse. What was the point if it all *was* true?

Then we are reading 2 + 2 = 5, but there is some other realm that makes
this a true equation. Oh, and there was an empty tomb.

If it is open to non-literal interpretation, then how can you
know what is really real?


Exactly.

Some passages just don't make sense even if
interpreted in an allegorical sense.


Since none of it makes sense in the first place....

It isn't supposed to. We are supposed to ask the christers to interpret
it for us.
--
midrash, n ~ the precursor to a major viral infection.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: I and christianity 10 Oct 2006 10:47:53 PM
On 9 Oct 2006 16:27:51 -0700, "bk" <backandforthhope@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism


stoney wrote:

On 3 Oct 2006 19:20:22 -0700, "bk" <backandforthhope@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

[]


It's weird. I had fundie tendencies before discovering what was
actually in the bible. It had to all be true, or else what was the
point?


It's much much worse. What was the point if it all *was* true?

Then we are reading 2 + 2 = 5, but there is some other realm that makes
this a true equation. Oh, and there was an empty tomb.

You misunderstood. Let me try again. Let's say there is an omniscient,
omnipotent, and omnipresent whatsit. What would be the point of it
doing anything, much less create incompetant and useless beings?

If it is open to non-literal interpretation, then how can you
know what is really real?


Exactly.

Some passages just don't make sense even if
interpreted in an allegorical sense.


Since none of it makes sense in the first place....

It isn't supposed to. We are supposed to ask the christers to interpret
it for us.

They give myraid answers and daemonize/kill others who don't agree with
them. Further, you've got a shitload of cowardly, pig ignorant, and
lying ***** people who can't think their way out of a wet paper sack
that's open at two ends with neon exit arrows. We're supposed to ask
these know nothings? I'd be leary about asking them for directions to
the WC!
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: I and christianity 11 Oct 2006 05:25:21 AM
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:47:53 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

You misunderstood. Let me try again. Let's say there is an omniscient,
omnipotent, and omnipresent whatsit. What would be the point of it
doing anything, much less create incompetant and useless beings?

Omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe? (Meaning it's outside
the universe?) Atemporal, so it couldn't "do" anything. "Doing"
takes an interval,
Not that religion us SUPPOSED to make any sense.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can
solve them."
-Isaac Asimov
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
.
User: "thomas p."

Title: Re: I and christianity 13 Oct 2006 10:52:42 AM
Al Klein wrote:

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:47:53 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

You misunderstood. Let me try again. Let's say there is an omniscient,
omnipotent, and omnipresent whatsit. What would be the point of it
doing anything, much less create incompetant and useless beings?


Omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe? (Meaning it's outside
the universe?) Atemporal, so it couldn't "do" anything. "Doing"
takes an interval,

Not that religion us SUPPOSED to make any sense.

Being senseless is a basic requirement. Theists, however, use the word
"mysterious", but it means the same thing.
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: I and christianity 13 Oct 2006 02:18:01 PM
On 13 Oct 2006 03:52:42 -0700, "thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk>
wrote:

Being senseless is a basic requirement. Theists, however, use the word
"mysterious"

Or "we aren't meant to know", or "no man can know the mind of our god
(but this is what he wants you to do)".

but it means the same thing.

Yup.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Nothing in biology makes sense without evolution."
- Theodosuis Dobzhansky
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: I and christianity 11 Oct 2006 11:00:17 PM
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:25:21 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:47:53 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

You misunderstood. Let me try again. Let's say there is an omniscient,
omnipotent, and omnipresent whatsit. What would be the point of it
doing anything, much less create incompetant and useless beings?


Omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe? (Meaning it's outside
the universe?) Atemporal, so it couldn't "do" anything. "Doing"
takes an interval,

I know. I was working within the fictional framework to make a point.

Not that religion is SUPPOSED to make any sense.

It doesn't.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.


User: "bk"

Title: Re: I and christianity 14 Oct 2006 04:14:39 AM
stoney wrote:

On 9 Oct 2006 16:27:51 -0700, "bk" <backandforthhope@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism


stoney wrote:

On 3 Oct 2006 19:20:22 -0700, "bk" <backandforthhope@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

[]


It's weird. I had fundie tendencies before discovering what was
actually in the bible. It had to all be true, or else what was the
point?


It's much much worse. What was the point if it all *was* true?


Then we are reading 2 + 2 = 5, but there is some other realm that makes
this a true equation. Oh, and there was an empty tomb.


You misunderstood. Let me try again. Let's say there is an omniscient,
omnipotent, and omnipresent whatsit. What would be the point of it
doing anything, much less create incompetant and useless beings?

The only point it would seem is if there is a dandy surprise for these
beings, they find unconditional love and happiness on the "other" side.
No exceptions, no fear or threats of "hell."

If it is open to non-literal interpretation, then how can you
know what is really real?


Exactly.

Some passages just don't make sense even if
interpreted in an allegorical sense.


Since none of it makes sense in the first place....


It isn't supposed to. We are supposed to ask the christers to interpret
it for us.


They give myraid answers and daemonize/kill others who don't agree with
them. Further, you've got a shitload of cowardly, pig ignorant, and
lying ***** people who can't think their way out of a wet paper sack
that's open at two ends with neon exit arrows. We're supposed to ask
these know nothings? I'd be leary about asking them for directions to
the WC!

Well they've got half their minds closed off, "anything that goes
against" and that's that. and i've personally known some about as
stupid, can't think their way out of it even if they wanted to.
--
midrash, n: precursor to a major viral infection
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: I and christianity 14 Oct 2006 04:48:01 PM
On 13 Oct 2006 21:14:39 -0700, "bk" <backandforthhope@yahoo.com> wrote
in alt.atheism


stoney wrote:

On 9 Oct 2006 16:27:51 -0700, "bk" <backandforthhope@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism


stoney wrote:

On 3 Oct 2006 19:20:22 -0700, "bk" <backandforthhope@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

[]


It's weird. I had fundie tendencies before discovering what was
actually in the bible. It had to all be true, or else what was the
point?


It's much much worse. What was the point if it all *was* true?


Then we are reading 2 + 2 = 5, but there is some other realm that makes
this a true equation. Oh, and there was an empty tomb.


You misunderstood. Let me try again. Let's say there is an omniscient,
omnipotent, and omnipresent whatsit. What would be the point of it
doing anything, much less create incompetant and useless beings?

The only point it would seem is if there is a dandy surprise for these
beings, they find unconditional love and happiness on the "other" side.
No exceptions, no fear or threats of "hell."

That there's no point is the point.

If it is open to non-literal interpretation, then how can you
know what is really real?


Exactly.

Some passages just don't make sense even if
interpreted in an allegorical sense.


Since none of it makes sense in the first place....


It isn't supposed to. We are supposed to ask the christers to interpret
it for us.


They give myraid answers and daemonize/kill others who don't agree with
them. Further, you've got a shitload of cowardly, pig ignorant, and
lying ***** people who can't think their way out of a wet paper sack
that's open at two ends with neon exit arrows. We're supposed to ask
these know nothings? I'd be leary about asking them for directions to
the WC!

Well they've got half their minds closed off, "anything that goes
against" and that's that. and i've personally known some about as
stupid, can't think their way out of it even if they wanted to.

IMO, their minds are closed based on sheer terror at their 'loving' god.
Their own words betray them.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.



User: "thomas p."

Title: Re: I and christianity 13 Oct 2006 10:49:22 AM
bk wrote:

stoney wrote:

On 3 Oct 2006 19:20:22 -0700, "bk" <backandforthhope@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

[]


It's weird. I had fundie tendencies before discovering what was
actually in the bible. It had to all be true, or else what was the
point?


It's much much worse. What was the point if it all *was* true?


Then we are reading 2 + 2 = 5, but there is some other realm that makes
this a true equation. Oh, and there was an empty tomb.

Yes, and the palace that appeared overnight proves that Aladdin really
had a magic lamp.
snip
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: I and christianity 13 Oct 2006 08:30:34 PM
On 13 Oct 2006 03:49:22 -0700, "thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk>
wrote:

bk wrote:

Oh, and there was an empty tomb.

Yes, and the palace that appeared overnight proves that Aladdin really
had a magic lamp.

And the lack of Jove's footprints in Rome prove that he exists too.
--
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"Given that you exist and that you are aware of your situation and
surroundings, you will find yourself in a place which has conditions
exactly suitable to your being there. If the environment was
hostile or incompatible in some important way then you would not be
there in the first place. Therefore the suitability and seeming
perfection of your universe cannot be taken as evidence of anything
more than your existence in it."
- Edward Warren, "The naturalistic fallacy"
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User: "thomas p."

Title: Re: I and christianity 16 Oct 2006 10:26:54 AM
Al Klein wrote:

On 13 Oct 2006 03:49:22 -0700, "thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk>
wrote:

bk wrote:


Oh, and there was an empty tomb.


Yes, and the palace that appeared overnight proves that Aladdin really
had a magic lamp.


And the lack of Jove's footprints in Rome prove that he exists too.

Well of course, only a supernatural being would leave no footprints -
and still they do not believe!
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