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29 Mar 2005 07:17:29 PM |
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I finally realize why liberals want Terri Schiavo dead |
Reading these posts and seeing liberals pathetically attempt to justify
Schiavo being starved to death, I came across a few common arguments:
"who would want to live that way"
"it's compassionate to kill her because she's supposedly a vegetable"
"let her die, with whatever dignity she has left"
"I certainly want to live that way so terri wouldn't either"
Liberals have always had a problem respecting the boundaries of others.
In particular, they think they have the right to dictate every single
detail of everyone's lives for them. That's where the whole "it takes a
village to raise a child" thing comes from. Liberals think they know
what's best for you, better than you do. And they want to make all our
important decisions for us.
That's why liberals want Terri Schiavo to die. They see Terri in her
condition, decide that they wouldn't want to live that way themselves,
and go about murdering her because they want to make the decision for
her that she's unfit to live, no matter what she herself would really
want. It's sick, but what would you expect from a group of people so
closely tied to communism and who mock the word of God?
Listen to me very carefully, liberals. You do not have the authority to
decide what standard of living is acceptable for Terri. You do not
have the authority to decide that Terri is better off dead than alive.
You do have the authority to not decide that murdering Terri by
starving her to death is more merciful than not murdering her and
allowing her to live. Ok? I know this goes against everything Hillary
Clinton, Barbara Streisand, Dianne Feinstein and your college
professors have told you, but you do not dictate other peoples lives
and tell them what to do.
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30 Mar 2005 06:22:57 AM |
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<livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote
Reading these posts and seeing liberals pathetically attempt to justify
Schiavo being starved to death, I came across a few common arguments:
1) Bush, as governor of Texas, signed the "Futile Care" law, a
law which allowed the life support to be removed from patients
like Terri Schiavo EVEN AGAINST THEIR WISHES & THE WISHES
OF THEIR FAMILY... if they couldn't afford to pay their medical
expenses.
Even as you lunatic right-wingers were thumping your chests, pretending
to be oh so concerned for Terri Schiavo, a six month old baby boy had
his breathing tube removed AGAINST HIS MOTHER'S WISHES. He
died, of course.
Terri Schiavo has been in her state for 15 years already.
2) Senate Majority leader -- and moralizing chest-thumper -- Tom
Delay, watched his own father removed from life support back in
1988. He had no problems with it back them, back when he wasn't
desperately trying to invent issues in congress.
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| User: "BOB" |
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30 Mar 2005 06:36:33 AM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in news:ScednXG99aJW3tffRVn-
gg@comcast.com:
<livingdjinn@yahoo.com> wrote
Reading these posts and seeing liberals pathetically attempt to justify
Schiavo being starved to death, I came across a few common arguments:
1) Bush, as governor of Texas, signed the "Futile Care" law, a
law which allowed the life support to be removed from patients
like Terri Schiavo EVEN AGAINST THEIR WISHES & THE WISHES
OF THEIR FAMILY... if they couldn't afford to pay their medical
expenses.
Even as you lunatic right-wingers were thumping your chests, pretending
to be oh so concerned for Terri Schiavo, a six month old baby boy had
his breathing tube removed AGAINST HIS MOTHER'S WISHES. He
died, of course.
Terri Schiavo has been in her state for 15 years already.
2) Senate Majority leader -- and moralizing chest-thumper -- Tom
Delay, watched his own father removed from life support back in
1988. He had no problems with it back them, back when he wasn't
desperately trying to invent issues in congress.
The neocon wingnuts are locked in a religious frenzy and in that state,
they tend to believe their own lies and ignore their own hypocracy.
Any chance of Terri dying a dignified death has been eliminated by that
circus of freaks protesting in Florida.
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| User: "Reunite Gondwanaland" |
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30 Mar 2005 03:20:09 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:22:57 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:
2) Senate Majority leader -- and moralizing chest-thumper -- Tom
Delay, watched his own father removed from life support back in
1988. He had no problems with it back them, back when he wasn't
desperately trying to invent issues in congress.
And then filed suit against the people identified as being responsible
for his father's condition, although I don't know if this was actually
a malpractice suit or not and googling isn't helping.
Mary
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Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer
miliff@qnet.com or
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| User: "JTEM" |
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30 Mar 2005 06:03:20 PM |
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"Reunite Gondwanaland" <reunite.gondwana@gmail.com> wrote
2) Senate Majority leader -- and moralizing chest-thumper -- Tom
Delay, watched his own father removed from life support back in
1988. He had no problems with it back them, back when he wasn't
desperately trying to invent issues in congress.
And then filed suit against the people identified as being responsible
for his father's condition, although I don't know if this was actually
a malpractice suit or not and googling isn't helping.
Apparently his dad was the victim of an on-the-job accident.
That's why "Trial Lawyers" went before "Activist judges" with
a "nuisance suit," immorally sending "Liability insurance" rates
through the roof.
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| User: "Boron Elgar" |
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30 Mar 2005 06:46:40 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:03:20 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Reunite Gondwanaland" <reunite.gondwana@gmail.com> wrote
2) Senate Majority leader -- and moralizing chest-thumper -- Tom
Delay, watched his own father removed from life support back in
1988. He had no problems with it back them, back when he wasn't
desperately trying to invent issues in congress.
And then filed suit against the people identified as being responsible
for his father's condition, although I don't know if this was actually
a malpractice suit or not and googling isn't helping.
Apparently his dad was the victim of an on-the-job accident.
Apparently his dad built a tram on the family property & when he rode
it, it tossed him brain-first into a tree.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-delay27mar27,1,1747897.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
That's why "Trial Lawyers" went before "Activist judges" with
a "nuisance suit," immorally sending "Liability insurance" rates
through the roof.
"Hey, look what I can do!"
Boron
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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30 Mar 2005 03:48:17 PM |
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In article <mqgl415kn5udbs56cq1pi782fnundiudml@4ax.com>, Reunite
Gondwanaland <reunite.gondwana@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:22:57 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:
2) Senate Majority leader -- and moralizing chest-thumper -- Tom
Delay, watched his own father removed from life support back in
1988. He had no problems with it back them, back when he wasn't
desperately trying to invent issues in congress.
And then filed suit against the people identified as being responsible
for his father's condition, although I don't know if this was actually
a malpractice suit or not and googling isn't helping.
Mary
It WAS malpractice (actually, "wrongful death" and negligence, which is
the same thing.) They also claimed product liability and much more.
Tom Delay and his family pretty much pulled out all the stops on this
lawsuit.
Now he wants to limit the ability of others to sue. Republicans are
such hypocrites....
<http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-delay27mar27,1,174
7897.story?ctrack=1&cset=true>
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30 Mar 2005 02:04:16 PM |
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<snip>
I thought it was because that, now that they have her dried out body on a
morphine drip, they could buy the body from her husband and grind her up
and freeze her to add a bit of Schiavo to the ole morning coffee for a
quick fix.
GregoryD
-- not too sure about that, but it's as plausible as all the other
theories
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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29 Mar 2005 08:25:34 PM |
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*snip*
It's sick, but what would you expect from a group of people so
closely tied to communism and who mock the word of God?
Listen to me very carefully, liberals.
*snip*
You're an idiot. But aren't there plenty of people who are both liberal and
christian? Go invest in a dictionary and a logic course.
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| User: "Nico Demusopelous" |
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02 Apr 2005 07:26:34 PM |
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wrote:
Reading these posts and seeing liberals pathetically
attempt to justify Schiavo being starved to death,
What makes you think "liberals" wanted Terri Shiavo to die? Because a
couple people you perceieve to be "liberals" seemed to? Do you think
the Shiavo case falls easily into the silly box of liberal vs
conservative? Or do you think such issues extend beyond the black and
white world of fox news? There were plenty of people who could be
termed "liberal" who wanted the tube reinstated. So take this nonsense
somewhere else, or at least redefine your terms.
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| User: "" |
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29 Mar 2005 07:39:07 PM |
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wrote:
Reading these posts and seeing liberals pathetically attempt to
justify
Schiavo being starved to death, I came across a few common arguments:
"who would want to live that way"
"it's compassionate to kill her because she's supposedly a vegetable"
"let her die, with whatever dignity she has left"
"I certainly want to live that way so terri wouldn't either"
Liberals have always had a problem respecting the boundaries of
others.
In particular, they think they have the right to dictate every single
detail of everyone's lives for them. That's where the whole "it takes
a
village to raise a child" thing comes from. Liberals think they know
what's best for you, better than you do. And they want to make all
our
important decisions for us.
That's why liberals want Terri Schiavo to die. They see Terri in her
condition, decide that they wouldn't want to live that way
themselves,
and go about murdering her because they want to make the decision for
her that she's unfit to live, no matter what she herself would really
want. It's sick, but what would you expect from a group of people so
closely tied to communism and who mock the word of God?
Listen to me very carefully, liberals. You do not have the authority
to
decide what standard of living is acceptable for Terri. You do not
have the authority to decide that Terri is better off dead than
alive.
You do have the authority to not decide that murdering Terri by
starving her to death is more merciful than not murdering her and
allowing her to live. Ok? I know this goes against everything Hillary
Clinton, Barbara Streisand, Dianne Feinstein and your college
professors have told you, but you do not dictate other peoples lives
and tell them what to do.
Damn those college professors! First they teach me science, now this!
Let's get this straight. Two courts and several more judges have found
that Terry indicated when she was whole that she wouldn't want to live
like this, and you disregard her wishes? Michael was her chosen
husband, but you don't want to accept her wish that he have the power
of attorney when the time comes? As a conservative, you insist that the
Feds should have routine jurisdiction over state laws? You like
activist judges to overrule legal decisions by inferring principles
from the constitution that aren't there? You want politicians to
interfere with private lives? You disdain law and order?
'Sfunny how the neocons always accuse liberals of interfering with
private lives when the neocons are in the process of bullying other
people into doing something.
And poor Terry died 15 years ago. She could never again fear anything,
hope for anything, remember anything, or even see anything. Nobody's
home. The only ones suffering are her blood kin, who can't let go, and
her husband (and his new family), who has an obligation to her still.
Kermit
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| User: "Mr. Neil" |
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29 Mar 2005 08:49:32 PM |
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Precisely.
I don't understand why there are people who think that since Terri's
body is still alive therefore her consciousness, and therefore her
personhood, must still exist. Sorry, but that's not how it works.
Terri Schiavo, the person, is ALREADY dead.
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| User: "towelie" |
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30 Mar 2005 02:55:15 AM |
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TV's Mr. Neil wrote:
Precisely.
I don't understand why there are people who think that since Terri's
body is still alive therefore her consciousness, and therefore her
personhood, must still exist. Sorry, but that's not how it works.
Terri Schiavo, the person, is ALREADY dead.
Because most of those who think this are just as brain-dead as she is.
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Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "George Dance" |
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31 Mar 2005 02:51:08 AM |
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wrote:
Reading these posts and seeing liberals pathetically attempt to
justify
Schiavo being starved to death, I came across a few common arguments:
"who would want to live that way"
"it's compassionate to kill her because she's supposedly a vegetable"
"let her die, with whatever dignity she has left"
"I certainly want to live that way so terri wouldn't either"
Those all sound like liberal arguments. I guess you haven't read any
libertarian arguments.
Liberals have always had a problem respecting the boundaries of
others.
In particular, they think they have the right to dictate every single
detail of everyone's lives for them. That's where the whole "it takes
a
village to raise a child" thing comes from. Liberals think they know
what's best for you, better than you do. And they want to make all
our
important decisions for us.
Well, let's agree that this is wrong. Terri, like anyone else, should
make her own decisions. So let's agree on that - no one should try to
make her decisions for her. No one should keep her from eating on her
own, or try to feed her without her express agreement. Agreed?
That's why liberals want Terri Schiavo to die. They see Terri in her
condition, decide that they wouldn't want to live that way
themselves,
and go about murdering her because they want to make the decision for
her that she's unfit to live, no matter what she herself would really
want.
Agreed; let her make the decision. If she asks for food, give (or
sell) her what she wants; if she doesn't ask for food, don't try to
stuff any down her throat. Sounds like a plan to me.
It's sick, but what would you expect from a group of people so
closely tied to communism and who mock the word of God?
Listen to me very carefully, liberals. You do not have the authority
to
decide what standard of living is acceptable for Terri.
Admittedly; it's up to Terri. What does she say? Nothing? Then, we
should do nothing for her.
You do not
have the authority to decide that Terri is better off dead than
alive.
Agreed; only Terri can decide that.
You do have the authority to not decide that murdering Terri by
starving her to death is more merciful than not murdering her and
allowing her to live.
Agreed as well; we have the authority to 'not decide' anything. So
let's do that: There's a person lying in a hospice who can't
communicate in any way. By your principle (which I'm agreeing with),
one can't do anything to her or for her without knowing what she wants.
Obviously one cannot feed her, until knowing whether she wants to be
fed in this state or not; right?
Ok? I know this goes against everything Hillary
Clinton, Barbara Streisand, Dianne Feinstein and your college
professors have told you, but you do not dictate other peoples lives
and tell them what to do.
Great; whatever Terri wants is what should be done in this case.
That's easy agreement on a principle; which leaves only the problem of
finding out what she wants. So: How do you find out?
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| User: "CQMMAN" |
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29 Mar 2005 07:21:24 PM |
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wrote:
Reading these posts and seeing liberals pathetically attempt to
justify Schiavo being starved to death, I came across a few common
arguments:
Sounds fair.
Why doesn't everyone just leave her alone and not interfere in her life. Oh
wait, that is what they are trying to do! It is her parents who want to keep
her alive artifically.
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Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first
prize in the lottery of life" -Cecil Rhodes
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones. Psalms 137:9.
Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces.
Malachi 2:3.
"He who rises up to kill us, we will pre-empt it and kill him first,"
- Ariel Sharon 8th May 2002
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| User: "Agent777" |
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29 Mar 2005 10:04:01 PM |
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"CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ato5lF67cpg9U1@individual.net...
Why doesn't everyone just leave her alone and not interfere in her life.
Oh
wait, that is what they are trying to do! It is her parents who want to
keep
her alive artifically.
Yea, and what's with all this using the "jaws of life" to cut unconcious
people of of cars. And these little incubators for premature babies, what a
waste of money.
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| User: "Rob Browning" |
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29 Mar 2005 11:43:35 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:04:01 -0500, "Agent777" <Agent777@n0-n0-na.net>
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"CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ato5lF67cpg9U1@individual.net...
Why doesn't everyone just leave her alone and not interfere in her life.
Oh
wait, that is what they are trying to do! It is her parents who want to
keep
her alive artifically.
Yea, and what's with all this using the "jaws of life" to cut unconcious
people of of cars. And these little incubators for premature babies, what a
waste of money.
Unconscious people and premature babies (depending on how severe the
accident/prematurity is, of course) have a chance to have a decent
life. Terri does not.
Rob
ploovTeHSPaeMBLoKuR@charter.net
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Owner of 2501 Netstalker Points awarded by Corwin of Amber, mainly
because Atma's just too damn attractive to get away from.
Gave 7499 Netstalker Points to Cypher because there's no such thing as
a good day on AGFF without JT bashing!
Owner of David Watson, rec.arts.anime.misc
"If you are anything like me you feel very passionately about the
Terri Schiavo issue. You are passionately sick of hearing about it.
You passionately want her to just fucking die already. You are
passionately embarrassed by all of the people pretending a 15 year
coma is something you can recover from. You passionately want to feed
barbed wire up Tom DeLay's rectum. All of these things are natural
things to feel at this point in the debacle."
--Zack Parsons, Something Awful 3-25-05
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| User: "DarkSheer" |
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30 Mar 2005 10:10:11 PM |
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Rob Browning wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:04:01 -0500, "Agent777" <Agent777@n0-n0-na.net>
wrote:
"CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ato5lF67cpg9U1@individual.net...
Why doesn't everyone just leave her alone and not interfere in her
life. Oh wait, that is what they are trying to do! It is her
parents who want to keep her alive artifically.
Yea, and what's with all this using the "jaws of life" to cut
unconcious people of of cars. And these little incubators for
premature babies, what a waste of money.
Unconscious people and premature babies (depending on how severe the
accident/prematurity is, of course) have a chance to have a decent
life. Terri does not.
Rob
ploovTeHSPaeMBLoKuR@charter.net
Who knows. Maybe if she was given ANY rehab whatsoever maybe she could
learn to speak again. There are so many different accounts of the whole
thing. I heard from one program that her husband pulled her out of every
single rehab program she was ever in. And his first words to the nurse
after he got to the hospital after finding out she had a tract infection was
"is the ***** dead yet". Makes me wonder what we aren't hearing. The
leading specialist in the world on Terri's condition said that there is a
chance she could learn to do normal things given the proper rehab.
Ryan
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| User: "Martin" |
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29 Mar 2005 09:11:52 PM |
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wrote:
Reading these posts and seeing liberals pathetically attempt to justify
Schiavo being starved to death,
there are very, very few liberals in the USA, I don't believe 'they'
(TINT) have the power you invest in them
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| User: "Tink" |
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29 Mar 2005 07:59:33 PM |
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wrote:
Reading these posts and seeing liberals pathetically attempt to justify
Schiavo being starved to death, I came across a few common arguments:
"who would want to live that way"
"it's compassionate to kill her because she's supposedly a vegetable"
"let her die, with whatever dignity she has left"
"I certainly want to live that way so terri wouldn't either"
Liberals have always had a problem respecting the boundaries of others.
Oh, you DIDN'T just say that did you? You are the ones who are not
respecting boundaries here. Specifically, you are ot respecting the
legal boundary of the family unit of the Schiavos.
In particular, they think they have the right to dictate every single
detail of everyone's lives for them.
As opposed to the wholesale intervention by fundamentalist religions
we witness in this case.
That's where the whole "it takes a
village to raise a child" thing comes from. Liberals think they know
what's best for you, better than you do. And they want to make all our
important decisions for us.
No, we want the families to make decisions for their own. Not churches
making arbitrary decisions in matters that are none of their business.
That's why liberals want Terri Schiavo to die. They see Terri in her
condition, decide that they wouldn't want to live that way themselves,
and go about murdering her because they want to make the decision for
her that she's unfit to live, no matter what she herself would really
want. It's sick, but what would you expect from a group of people so
closely tied to communism and who mock the word of God?
Oh yeah, I forgot, the liberal/communist connection. Tell me, just
where in the manifesto does it dictate intervention in family medical
matters?
Listen to me very carefully, liberals. You do not have the authority to
decide what standard of living is acceptable for Terri.
Neither do you. You, your church, your preacher and your carpet bagging
politicians have no authority to tell anyone else what to do.
You do not
have the authority to decide that Terri is better off dead than alive.
Nope, that's her husbands job.
You do have the authority to not decide that murdering Terri by
starving her to death is more merciful than not murdering her and
allowing her to live. Ok? I know this goes against everything Hillary
Clinton, Barbara Streisand, Dianne Feinstein and your college
professors have told you, but you do not dictate other peoples lives
and tell them what to do.
Really, Hillary, Barbara and Diane have weighed in on this? Do tell.
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Skydivers don't knock on death's door; they ring the bell and run
away... It really pisses him off.
The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS# 8808
EAC Chairman, Division of Skydiving and Sushi consumption.
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| User: "Dave" |
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02 Apr 2005 05:46:44 AM |
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[...]
Liberals have always had a problem respecting the boundaries
of others. In particular, they think they have the right to
dictate every single detail of everyone's lives for them.
[...]
How about their own lives? Terri Schiavo made her wishes clear well
before the incident that turned her into a vegetable. Doesn't that fact
get through your thick apelike skull you stupid crossposting troll?
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| User: "jwk" |
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30 Mar 2005 02:23:25 PM |
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wrote:
[snip BS]
Listen to me very carefully, liberals. You do not have the authority
to
decide what standard of living is acceptable for Terri. You do not
have the authority to decide that Terri is better off dead than
alive.
You do have the authority to not decide that murdering Terri by
starving her to death is more merciful than not murdering her and
allowing her to live. Ok?
Neither do you jack. Do you understand that? It isn't your place to
decide either. You arch-conservatives alwasy forget that.
jwk
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| User: "minnehaha" |
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29 Mar 2005 07:43:25 PM |
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Listen to me very carefully, liberals. You do not have the authority to
decide what standard of living is acceptable for Terri.
No but the courts have decided, so that's that. It's the conservatives
constantly trying to override the courts and find ways around the judicial
decision that has been repeated over and over again.
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| User: "" |
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30 Mar 2005 06:42:34 PM |
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minnehaha wrote:
Listen to me very carefully, liberals. You do not have the
authority to
decide what standard of living is acceptable for Terri.
No but the courts have decided, so that's that. It's the
conservatives
constantly trying to override the courts and find ways around the
judicial
decision that has been repeated over and over again.
Courts don't have the right to sentence an innocent woman to execution
by starvation either.
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30 Mar 2005 07:14:52 PM |
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<imagenierubmylamp@hotmail.com> wrote
Courts don't have the right to sentence an innocent
woman to execution by starvation either.
According to Bush & Tom Delay, not only do the courts
have that "Right," but the hospitals can do it without the
courts.
Tom Delay's own father died in 1988, after they pulled
the plug on him. No courts.
Bush, as governor of Texas, signed the "Futile Care"
law, mandating the ripping out of life support on
patients like Terri Schiavo, if they couldn't pay for
their treatment. Even as Bush was pretending to be
oh so concerned about Terri Schiavo, a six month
old baby boy was killed in Texas -- AGAINST THE
WISHES OF HIS MOTHER -- using Bush's law.
In fact, the mother of the baby went to court trying
to keep her baby alive, but there's was nothing they
could do. The Hospital was only following the law
(Bush's "Futile Care" law), so it was totally legal
to kill the baby against the mother's wishes.
Please stop believing what your gods in Washington
are telling you. Please. For your own sake, please
wake up.
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| User: "lab~rat" |
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30 Mar 2005 08:03:23 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:14:52 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
puked:
<imagenierubmylamp@hotmail.com> wrote
Courts don't have the right to sentence an innocent
woman to execution by starvation either.
According to Bush & Tom Delay, not only do the courts
have that "Right," but the hospitals can do it without the
courts.
Tom Delay's own father died in 1988, after they pulled
the plug on him. No courts.
Bush, as governor of Texas, signed the "Futile Care"
law, mandating the ripping out of life support on
patients like Terri Schiavo, if they couldn't pay for
their treatment. Even as Bush was pretending to be
oh so concerned about Terri Schiavo, a six month
old baby boy was killed in Texas -- AGAINST THE
WISHES OF HIS MOTHER -- using Bush's law.
Evidently there is money to keep Terri alive. If I didn't have enough
money to feed myself and was starving to death, would it be the
government's responsibility to see that I'm fed?
--
lab~rat >:-)
The less you care, the more it doesn't matter.
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| User: "Wavy G" |
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30 Mar 2005 08:27:12 PM |
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Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they say
can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "lab~rat" run.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:14:52 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
puked:
<imagenierubmylamp@hotmail.com> wrote
Courts don't have the right to sentence an innocent
woman to execution by starvation either.
According to Bush & Tom Delay, not only do the courts
have that "Right," but the hospitals can do it without the
courts.
Tom Delay's own father died in 1988, after they pulled
the plug on him. No courts.
Bush, as governor of Texas, signed the "Futile Care"
law, mandating the ripping out of life support on
patients like Terri Schiavo, if they couldn't pay for
their treatment. Even as Bush was pretending to be
oh so concerned about Terri Schiavo, a six month
old baby boy was killed in Texas -- AGAINST THE
WISHES OF HIS MOTHER -- using Bush's law.
Evidently there is money to keep Terri alive. If I didn't have enough
money to feed myself and was starving to death, would it be the
government's responsibility to see that I'm fed?
Yes, it's called "welfare," dingie.
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| User: "lab~rat" |
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30 Mar 2005 08:36:37 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:27:12 GMT, Wavy G <Wavyg@Imsexy.com> puked:
Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they say
can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "lab~rat" run.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:14:52 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
puked:
<imagenierubmylamp@hotmail.com> wrote
Courts don't have the right to sentence an innocent
woman to execution by starvation either.
According to Bush & Tom Delay, not only do the courts
have that "Right," but the hospitals can do it without the
courts.
Tom Delay's own father died in 1988, after they pulled
the plug on him. No courts.
Bush, as governor of Texas, signed the "Futile Care"
law, mandating the ripping out of life support on
patients like Terri Schiavo, if they couldn't pay for
their treatment. Even as Bush was pretending to be
oh so concerned about Terri Schiavo, a six month
old baby boy was killed in Texas -- AGAINST THE
WISHES OF HIS MOTHER -- using Bush's law.
Evidently there is money to keep Terri alive. If I didn't have enough
money to feed myself and was starving to death, would it be the
government's responsibility to see that I'm fed?
Yes, it's called "welfare," dingie.
Shh, you're screwing up my chess game, goddammit.
--
lab~rat >:-)
The less you care, the more it doesn't matter.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: I finally realize why liberals want Terri Schiavo dead |
31 Mar 2005 05:22:52 AM |
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Wavy G <Wavyg@Imsexy.com> wrote:
Evidently there is money to keep Terri alive. If I didn't have enough
money to feed myself and was starving to death, would it be the
government's responsibility to see that I'm fed?
Yes, it's called "welfare," dingie.
Note that welfare is limited to a lifetime maximum five years of benefits.
After that you're on your own.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Wavy G" |
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31 Mar 2005 04:11:27 PM |
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Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they say
can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "Ray Fischer" run.
Wavy G <Wavyg@Imsexy.com> wrote:
Evidently there is money to keep Terri alive. If I didn't have enough
money to feed myself and was starving to death, would it be the
government's responsibility to see that I'm fed?
Yes, it's called "welfare," dingie.
Note that welfare is limited to a lifetime maximum five years of benefits.
After that you're on your own.
Oh, I see. "You're on your own." That's a perfectly rational thing to
say to say to Terri Schiavo.
"Sorry, Terri. We can only help you a little, just to get you back on
your feet again, but after that you're going to have to come out of that
coma and get a job."
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| User: "lab~rat" |
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| Title: Re: I finally realize why liberals want Terri Schiavo dead |
31 Mar 2005 04:47:55 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:11:27 GMT, Wavy G <Wavyg@Imsexy.com> puked:
Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they say
can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "Ray Fischer" run.
Wavy G <Wavyg@Imsexy.com> wrote:
Evidently there is money to keep Terri alive. If I didn't have enough
money to feed myself and was starving to death, would it be the
government's responsibility to see that I'm fed?
Yes, it's called "welfare," dingie.
Note that welfare is limited to a lifetime maximum five years of benefits.
After that you're on your own.
Oh, I see. "You're on your own." That's a perfectly rational thing to
say to say to Terri Schiavo.
"Sorry, Terri. We can only help you a little, just to get you back on
your feet again, but after that you're going to have to come out of that
coma and get a job."
Maybe they could charge the religious nuts a few bucks to file by her
bed and say a prayer...
--
lab~rat >:-)
The less you care, the more it doesn't matter.
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