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"Enkidu" |
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11 Feb 2006 03:54:16 PM |
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I must be doing something right |
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they asked
their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's children's
center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell phones,
IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of extravagances that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they chose
to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
What men usually ask for when they pray to God is that two and two may not
make four.
-- Russian proverb
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: I must be doing something right |
11 Feb 2006 05:11:10 PM |
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"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97678D748664E255229@130.133.1.4...
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they asked
their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's children's
center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell phones,
IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of extravagances
that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they chose
to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
Daily beatings?
(sorry - couldn't resist ;))
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: I must be doing something right |
11 Feb 2006 05:48:30 PM |
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in
news:dslquc$nn$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:
"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97678D748664E255229@130.133.1.4...
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they
asked their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's
children's center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell
phones, IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of
extravagances that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they
chose to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from
wrong.
I must be doing something right.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
Daily beatings?
(sorry - couldn't resist ;))
Actually, that's another difference between our parenting style and the
Christian version. Our kids don't need to fear God *or* fear us. We
don't hit our kids. Violence has never seemed necessary.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from
the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so.
-Douglas Adams, from Last Chance To See
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: I must be doing something right |
11 Feb 2006 09:08:45 PM |
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"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in
news:dslquc$nn$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:
"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97678D748664E255229@130.133.1.4...
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they
asked their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's
children's center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell
phones, IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of
extravagances that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they
chose to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from
wrong.
I must be doing something right.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
Daily beatings?
(sorry - couldn't resist ;))
Actually, that's another difference between our parenting style and the
Christian version. Our kids don't need to fear God *or* fear us. We
don't hit our kids. Violence has never seemed necessary.
My husband and I are the same way. We've never even considered hitting our
daughter, much less actually done it. But, all of my nieces and nephews
that are being raised in religious households are all spanked on a regular
basis. Go figure :(
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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12 Feb 2006 07:55:40 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:08:45 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9767A0D1F4049255229@130.133.1.4...
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in
news:dslquc$nn$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:
"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97678D748664E255229@130.133.1.4...
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they
asked their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's
children's center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell
phones, IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of
extravagances that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they
chose to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from
wrong.
I must be doing something right.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
Daily beatings?
(sorry - couldn't resist ;))
Actually, that's another difference between our parenting style and the
Christian version. Our kids don't need to fear God *or* fear us. We
don't hit our kids. Violence has never seemed necessary.
My husband and I are the same way. We've never even considered hitting our
daughter, much less actually done it. But, all of my nieces and nephews
that are being raised in religious households are all spanked on a regular
basis. Go figure :(
There is small signmaking business not far from here and he is
good. To advertise his wares he puts up banners with simple sayings,
the usual nonesense that stands little scrutiny and they did little
harm. I used to make up counter sayings to them as we drove past.
Increasingly they have become more obvious Christian messages and
arrogant lectures on how to behave. At the moment the vile message
"Spare the rod and spoil the child" is proclaimed.
--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: I must be doing something right |
12 Feb 2006 08:03:06 AM |
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Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote in
news:83fuu1lva12r9bmb1375rid5ti2f9pe19e@4ax.com:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:08:45 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9767A0D1F4049255229@130.133.1.4...
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in
news:dslquc$nn$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:
"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97678D748664E255229@130.133.1.4...
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my
two daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so
they asked their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego
County's children's center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell
phones, IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of
extravagances that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves,
they chose to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has
ever prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right
from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
Daily beatings?
(sorry - couldn't resist ;))
Actually, that's another difference between our parenting style and
the Christian version. Our kids don't need to fear God *or* fear
us. We don't hit our kids. Violence has never seemed necessary.
My husband and I are the same way. We've never even considered
hitting our daughter, much less actually done it. But, all of my
nieces and nephews that are being raised in religious households are
all spanked on a regular basis. Go figure :(
There is small signmaking business not far from here and he is
good. To advertise his wares he puts up banners with simple sayings,
the usual nonesense that stands little scrutiny and they did little
harm. I used to make up counter sayings to them as we drove past.
Increasingly they have become more obvious Christian messages and
arrogant lectures on how to behave. At the moment the vile message
"Spare the rod and spoil the child" is proclaimed.
"I am right, because I'm strong enough to kick your *****." Not the
argument a deep thinker uses.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
Anyone who says God is on their side is dangerous as hell.
-- lapel button
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| User: "stoney" |
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12 Feb 2006 03:38:41 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:11:10 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97678D748664E255229@130.133.1.4...
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they asked
their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's children's
center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell phones,
IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of extravagances
that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they chose
to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
Daily beatings?
(sorry - couldn't resist ;))
And morale *still* hasn't improved..... ;)
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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12 Feb 2006 07:46:12 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:11:10 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97678D748664E255229@130.133.1.4...
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they asked
their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's children's
center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell phones,
IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of extravagances
that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they chose
to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
Daily beatings?
"Spare the rod and spoil the child"?
That's the Christian philosophy which teaches might is right
and that cowards only pick on the smallest and weakest
--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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11 Feb 2006 04:57:00 PM |
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"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97678D748664E255229@130.133.1.4...
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they asked
their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's children's
center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell phones,
IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of extravagances
that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they chose
to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
It's nice to be validated, isn't it? :-)
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: I must be doing something right |
11 Feb 2006 09:06:47 PM |
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"Enkidu" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97678D748664E255229@130.133.1.4...
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they asked
their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's children's
center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell phones,
IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of extravagances
that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they chose
to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
Oh my goodness, I am moved beyond words. Here I thought I had the most
generous "golden child". I don't know how old your children are, but this
sort of thing is rare among adults, much less children. Fanstasic. This
is yet more evidence that people don't need a religion in order to be a good
person. None of my god-soaked nieces or nephews would ever consider being
this generous.
You're obviously a wonder parent :)
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "duke" |
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12 Feb 2006 04:27:43 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:06:47 -0500, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
Oh my goodness, I am moved beyond words. Here I thought I had the most
generous "golden child". I don't know how old your children are, but this
sort of thing is rare among adults, much less children.
Nope, it's extraordinarily prevalent amongst the Christian people of the world.
Fanstasic. This
is yet more evidence that people don't need a religion in order to be a good
person. None of my god-soaked nieces or nephews would ever consider being
this generous.
You don't need religion, but they are definitely responding to the call of God
to "love one another as I have loved you".
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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11 Feb 2006 05:48:17 PM |
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Enkidu wrote:
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they asked
their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's children's
center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell phones,
IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of extravagances that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they chose
to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
Congratulations. I hope I can do as well if I end up raising kids.
How old are they, if I may ask?
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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11 Feb 2006 05:51:39 PM |
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"Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1139701697.916771.65550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Enkidu wrote:
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they
asked their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's
children's center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell
phones, IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of
extravagances that most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask
for themselves, they chose to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from
wrong.
I must be doing something right.
Congratulations. I hope I can do as well if I end up raising kids.
Buy all the books they want, keep the TV off Sunday through Thursday
afternoon, and don't hit them. Works well for us.
How old are they, if I may ask?
Seven and eleven.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"The world is full of Laurel and Hardys. I saw them all the time as a boy
at my mother's hotel. There's always the dumb, dumb guy, who never has
anything bad happen to him, and the smart guy who's even dumber than the
dumb guy, only he doesn't know it."
* Oliver Hardy
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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11 Feb 2006 05:54:10 PM |
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Enkidu wrote:
"Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1139701697.916771.65550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Enkidu wrote:
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they
asked their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's
children's center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell
phones, IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of
extravagances that most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask
for themselves, they chose to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from
wrong.
I must be doing something right.
Congratulations. I hope I can do as well if I end up raising kids.
Buy all the books they want, keep the TV off Sunday through Thursday
afternoon, and don't hit them. Works well for us.
How old are they, if I may ask?
Seven and eleven.
Wow. I was expecting high school aged. Again, congratulations.
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| User: "johac" |
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12 Feb 2006 02:52:57 AM |
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In article <Xns97678D748664E255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they asked
their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's children's
center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell phones,
IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of extravagances that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they chose
to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
Congratulations! You raised two fine kids.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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12 Feb 2006 03:38:12 PM |
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On 11 Feb 2006 21:54:16 GMT, Enkidu <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they asked
their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's children's
center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell phones,
IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of extravagances that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they chose
to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
You encouraged them to be human beings. Well done!
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "duke" |
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12 Feb 2006 04:25:39 PM |
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On 11 Feb 2006 21:54:16 GMT, Enkidu <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:
After looking around, trying to come up with "birthday lists", my two
daughters decided there wasn't really anything they needed, so they asked
their friends to bring items to donate to, San Diego County's children's
center.
My daughters have everything they need, but they don't have cell phones,
IPods, video games, computers, or any of the hundreds of extravagances that
most of their peers have. Yet, rather than ask for themselves, they chose
to give to others.
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
Yes, you have them making a perfect response to the call of God. It's in their
blood.
They will make wonderful Christians women as they grow up, fighting against the
corruption and evil of abortion and the pains of the world afflicted by the
atheists and pagans.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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11 Feb 2006 07:18:17 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Enkidu
<jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> posting the following on 11 Feb 2006
21:54:16 GMT iin alt.atheism?
Neither child has ever set foot in a church. Neither child has ever
prayed. Neither child needs the fear of God to know right from wrong.
I must be doing something right.
Your girls rock like a rocking thing.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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