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27 Apr 2005 06:51:49 PM |
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I saw two married men kissing each other yesterday |
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost see God
smiling down upon them.
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27 Apr 2005 09:03:48 PM |
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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28 Apr 2005 06:55:55 AM |
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On 27 Apr 2005 16:51:49 -0700 in alt.atheism, the messenjah
(messenjah@mailinator.com (the messenjah)) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost see God
smiling down upon them.
Yes, I've seen this occasionally, but the main question at issue is
were they married to each other?
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| User: "Paul H." |
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27 Apr 2005 11:27:39 PM |
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"the messenjah" <messenjah@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fd54be75.0504271551.a8d161d@posting.google.com...
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost see God
smiling down upon them.
If you saw two married men kissing each other, then their wives must be
terribly upset. Maybe it wasn't God's smile you saw, but Homer Simpson's
butt-crack.
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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03 May 2005 03:16:36 PM |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:27:39 -0700, Paul H. wrote:
"the messenjah" <messenjah@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fd54be75.0504271551.a8d161d@posting.google.com...
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost see God
smiling down upon them.
If you saw two married men kissing each other, then their wives must be
terribly upset. Maybe it wasn't God's smile you saw, but Homer Simpson's
butt-crack.
You appallingly ignorant, xenophobic barbarian, have you never traveled to
a Latin country? Did you not kiss your father. A kiss means affection,
not lust. Quit projecting your dysfunctional sexual perversions onto
other people.
-- Regards, Curly
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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27 Apr 2005 07:12:32 PM |
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"the messenjah" <messenjah@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fd54be75.0504271551.a8d161d@posting.google.com...
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost see God
smiling down upon them.
I attended a gay wedding a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see any god, but I
did get to see a good friend of mine get married to a handsome looking chap,
and they both seemed very happy.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http:/www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "duke" |
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28 Apr 2005 05:58:09 PM |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:12:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"the messenjah" <messenjah@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fd54be75.0504271551.a8d161d@posting.google.com...
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost see God
smiling down upon them.
I attended a gay wedding a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see any god, but I
did get to see a good friend of mine get married to a handsome looking chap,
and they both seemed very happy.
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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28 Apr 2005 06:34:11 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:12:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"the messenjah" <messenjah@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fd54be75.0504271551.a8d161d@posting.google.com...
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost see God
smiling down upon them.
I attended a gay wedding a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see any god, but
I
did get to see a good friend of mine get married to a handsome looking
chap,
and they both seemed very happy.
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
Is that a fucking threat you piece of pig-*****?
Or are you simply too stupid to know what the word celibate means?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http:/www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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28 Apr 2005 08:19:55 PM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:12:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"the messenjah" <messenjah@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fd54be75.0504271551.a8d161d@posting.google.com...
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost see
God smiling down upon them.
I attended a gay wedding a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see any
god, but I
did get to see a good friend of mine get married to a handsome
looking chap,
and they both seemed very happy.
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
Is that a fucking threat you piece of pig-*****?
Or are you simply too stupid to know what the word celibate means?
Or is he admitting he is saving himself for marriage?
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| User: "Eris" |
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28 Apr 2005 06:43:25 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:34:11 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:12:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"the messenjah" <messenjah@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fd54be75.0504271551.a8d161d@posting.google.com...
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost see God
smiling down upon them.
I attended a gay wedding a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see any god, but
I
did get to see a good friend of mine get married to a handsome looking
chap,
and they both seemed very happy.
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
Is that a fucking threat you piece of pig-*****?
Or are you simply too stupid to know what the word celibate means?
Duke was the prize alter boy in his parish. All his clothing was held
together with a single pull string.
Her Duke, this is the Angus Dei.
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| User: "duke" |
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29 Apr 2005 12:52:40 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:34:11 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
I attended a gay wedding a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see any god, but
I
did get to see a good friend of mine get married to a handsome looking
chap,
and they both seemed very happy.
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
Is that a fucking threat you piece of pig-*****?
Nope. I can't threaten anyone. Unless they remain celibate, they are
committing mortal sin.
Or are you simply too stupid to know what the word celibate means?
I know exactly what it stands for.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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29 Apr 2005 04:44:01 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:34:11 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
I attended a gay wedding a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see any god,
but
I
did get to see a good friend of mine get married to a handsome looking
chap,
and they both seemed very happy.
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
Is that a fucking threat you piece of pig-*****?
Nope. I can't threaten anyone. Unless they remain celibate, they are
committing mortal sin.
So what are you threatening them with "shortly"? You gonna have your thug of
a god torture them forever, fuckwad?
Or are you simply too stupid to know what the word celibate means?
I know exactly what it stands for.
It doesn't stand for anything, you fucking moron. It's a word with a
meaning.
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dloubet@io.com
http:/www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "duke" |
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30 Apr 2005 06:39:50 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:44:01 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
Is that a fucking threat you piece of pig-*****?
Nope. I can't threaten anyone. Unless they remain celibate, they are
committing mortal sin.
So what are you threatening them with "shortly"? You gonna have your thug of
a god torture them forever, fuckwad?
Shortly means when they die.
Or are you simply too stupid to know what the word celibate means?
I know exactly what it stands for.
It doesn't stand for anything, you fucking moron. It's a word with a
meaning.
And unless they practice it, they are booked to go.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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01 May 2005 09:49:44 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:44:01 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
Is that a fucking threat you piece of pig-*****?
Nope. I can't threaten anyone. Unless they remain celibate, they are
committing mortal sin.
So what are you threatening them with "shortly"? You gonna have your thug
of
a god torture them forever, fuckwad?
Shortly means when they die.
Or are you simply too stupid to know what the word celibate means?
I know exactly what it stands for.
It doesn't stand for anything, you fucking moron. It's a word with a
meaning.
And unless they practice it, they are booked to go.
Who else caved in to a tyrant to avoid the consequences? Oh yeah, your
fuckbuddy Ratzinger did, didn't he? Became a nazi to avoid the consequences
of not being a nazi, as I recall. You shitstains are all about avoiding
responsibility, aren't you.
When you meet the Pope, don't forget to tongue his ring.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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01 May 2005 06:09:01 PM |
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On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:49:44 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
And unless they practice it, they are booked to go.
Who else caved in to a tyrant to avoid the consequences? Oh yeah, your
fuckbuddy Ratzinger did, didn't he? Became a nazi to avoid the consequences
of not being a nazi, as I recall. You shitstains are all about avoiding
responsibility, aren't you.
He wasn't a nazi.
When you meet the Pope, don't forget to tongue his ring.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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01 May 2005 07:21:10 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 1 May 2005 09:49:44 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
And unless they practice it, they are booked to go.
Who else caved in to a tyrant to avoid the consequences? Oh yeah, your
fuckbuddy Ratzinger did, didn't he? Became a nazi to avoid the
consequences
of not being a nazi, as I recall. You shitstains are all about avoiding
responsibility, aren't you.
He wasn't a nazi.
He joined a nazi organization to avoid the consequences if he didn't. Other
kids, with more integrity, suffered the consequences that Ratzinger dodged.
You're all about avoiding responsibility.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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03 May 2005 05:20:17 AM |
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On Sun, 1 May 2005 19:21:10 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
He wasn't a nazi.
He joined a nazi organization to avoid the consequences if he didn't. Other
kids, with more integrity, suffered the consequences that Ratzinger dodged.
It was a Hitler youth group. He grew up and checked out.
You're all about avoiding responsibility.
You're all about finding fault with others but not yourself.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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03 May 2005 10:35:57 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 1 May 2005 19:21:10 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
He wasn't a nazi.
He joined a nazi organization to avoid the consequences if he didn't.
Other
kids, with more integrity, suffered the consequences that Ratzinger
dodged.
It was a Hitler youth group. He grew up and checked out.
He deserted when it was obvious to everyone they were going to lose.
You're all about avoiding responsibility.
You're all about finding fault with others but not yourself.
I have plenty of faults.
So since you didn't refute my point, are you agreeing that you're all about
avoiding responsibility?
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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03 May 2005 05:52:00 PM |
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On Tue, 3 May 2005 10:35:57 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
It was a Hitler youth group. He grew up and checked out.
He deserted when it was obvious to everyone they were going to lose.
Really. He was born is 1927 (2005AD - 78 years), which means he was 13 if he
joined the hitler youth when the war started, say 1940. I'm sure the Hitler
youth were "drafting" before 13. So he joined as a preteen. Not exactly an
adult. When the war ended say in 1945, and he deserted as a soldier at that
age, he was at most 17.
When you were 17, you were still playing with your dolls.
You're all about avoiding responsibility.
You're all about finding fault with others but not yourself.
I have plenty of faults.
So since you didn't refute my point, are you agreeing that you're all about
avoiding responsibility?
Don't be so stupid.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Azrael" |
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29 Apr 2005 12:33:56 AM |
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:58:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:12:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"the messenjah" <messenjah@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fd54be75.0504271551.a8d161d@posting.google.com...
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost see God
smiling down upon them.
I attended a gay wedding a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see any god, but I
did get to see a good friend of mine get married to a handsome looking chap,
and they both seemed very happy.
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
How exactly does celibacy equate to happiness, I must have missed
that? Do all happy married couples remain celibate? I could understand
(well almost) a monogamous couple remaining happy (I do know a few
couples that are swingers and they seem very happy), but not a
celibate couple. Why get married if you are not going to consummate
the marriage?
Azrael
There was no "before" the beginning of our universe, because once upon a time there was no time.
John D. Barrow
Question: If I get im my spaceship and fly to the very edge of the universe what do I see out the front window?
Question #2 if I ever meet Stephen Hawkings "What is the most mass a black hole can obsorb and what happens after it reaches that point and trys to absorb more matter?
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29 Apr 2005 03:36:14 AM |
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Azrael wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:58:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:12:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"the messenjah" <messenjah@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fd54be75.0504271551.a8d161d@posting.google.com...
It was incredibly beautiful and touching. I have never seen so
two
individuals completely in love with each other. I could almost
see God
smiling down upon them.
I attended a gay wedding a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see any
god, but I
did get to see a good friend of mine get married to a handsome
looking chap,
and they both seemed very happy.
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
How exactly does celibacy equate to happiness, I must have missed
that? Do all happy married couples remain celibate?
I think it's an AIDS rant.
~Iain
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29 Apr 2005 12:55:59 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 05:33:56 GMT, Azrael <god@my.computer.palace.com> wrote:
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
How exactly does celibacy equate to happiness, I must have missed
that? Do all happy married couples remain celibate?
Practicing homosexuality is a mortal sin. Unless they remain celibate in their
"civil contract", they're booked to go.
I could understand
(well almost) a monogamous couple remaining happy (I do know a few
couples that are swingers and they seem very happy), but not a
celibate couple. Why get married if you are not going to consummate
the marriage?
There is no such thing as a gay marriage. There is only a civil contract.
Marriage is a gift from God and involves one man and one woman.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Azrael" |
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30 Apr 2005 01:29:22 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:55:59 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 05:33:56 GMT, Azrael <god@my.computer.palace.com> wrote:
They won't be shortly unless they remain celibate.
How exactly does celibacy equate to happiness, I must have missed
that? Do all happy married couples remain celibate?
Practicing homosexuality is a mortal sin. Unless they remain celibate in their
"civil contract", they're booked to go.
Mortal sin is different than sin how? Apparently the don't buy into
your fairy tale. Booked to go? Where on a cruise? Civil
Contract=Marriage=Union of two people
I could understand
(well almost) a monogamous couple remaining happy (I do know a few
couples that are swingers and they seem very happy), but not a
celibate couple. Why get married if you are not going to consummate
the marriage?
There is no such thing as a gay marriage. There is only a civil contract.
Marriage is a gift from God and involves one man and one woman.
No marriage is just the union of two people.Whether you married by
Father Stevens in the local parish or by Judge Green in the town hall
you are a considered married and have the same rights and
responsibilities.
Azrael
There was no "before" the beginning of our universe, because once upon a time there was no time.
John D. Barrow
Question: If I get im my spaceship and fly to the very edge of the universe what do I see out the front window?
Question #2 if I ever meet Stephen Hawkings "What is the most mass a black hole can obsorb and what happens after it reaches that point and trys to absorb more matter?
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30 Apr 2005 06:49:14 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:29:22 GMT, Azrael <god@my.computer.palace.com> wrote:
Practicing homosexuality is a mortal sin. Unless they remain celibate in their
"civil contract", they're booked to go.
Mortal sin is different than sin how? Apparently the don't buy into
your fairy tale.
Mortal sin means destruction of a relationship with God. So it doesn't matter
if they buy in or not. God does not run a democracy.
Booked to go? Where on a cruise? Civil
Contract=Marriage=Union of two people
Nope. Marriage is a spiritual union between one man and one woman. The civil
contract is nothing more than a license issued by local authorities to establish
legal rights of the parties.
There is no such thing as a gay marriage. There is only a civil contract.
Marriage is a gift from God and involves one man and one woman.
No marriage is just the union of two people.Whether you married by
Father Stevens in the local parish or by Judge Green in the town hall
you are a considered married and have the same rights and
responsibilities.
Nope. Marriage is a joining of one man and one woman. Father Stevens and Judge
Green are only witnesses. Both say "do you xxx take this yyy...." One, the
civil contract, is issued by civil authorities (Judge Green).
The civil license in both cases does have the same rights and responsibilities
in civil issues only. However, the true joining is in the sight of God, and
that is the marriage. God calls homosexuality a despicable act and is not
condoned.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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03 May 2005 03:43:15 AM |
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In article <3lr671h6a5qhb1l9aqhomg16t61nab1lsk@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net (duke) wrote:
God does not run a democracy.
So can he expect invasion by the US c/o GWB anytime soon to have one set
up?
that is the marriage. God calls homosexuality a despicable act and is
not condoned.
Ditto eating shellfish. Also, to be strictly correct, God said no such
thing, men said it based on what they allege was divine revelation from
God.
Iain
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04 May 2005 05:16:33 AM |
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 08:43:15 GMT, (Iain Laskey)
wrote:
God does not run a democracy.
So can he expect invasion by the US c/o GWB anytime soon to have one set
up?
that is the marriage. God calls homosexuality a despicable act and is
not condoned.
Ditto eating shellfish. Also, to be strictly correct, God said no such
thing, men said it based on what they allege was divine revelation from
God.
I don't know whether to laugh at you, or just your ignorant words.
duke
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Pope Paul VI
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01 May 2005 03:23:51 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:49:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:29:22 GMT, Azrael <god@my.computer.palace.com> wrote:
Practicing homosexuality is a mortal sin. Unless they remain celibate in their
"civil contract", they're booked to go.
Mortal sin is different than sin how? Apparently the don't buy into
your fairy tale.
Mortal sin means destruction of a relationship with God. So it doesn't matter
if they buy in or not. God does not run a democracy.
You still didn't explain how mortal sin was different then normal sin.
Apparently the don't follow your god so the fact that he is a
tyrannical despot is beside the point
Booked to go? Where on a cruise? Civil
Contract=Marriage=Union of two people
Nope. Marriage is a spiritual union between one man and one woman. The civil
contract is nothing more than a license issued by local authorities to establish
legal rights of the parties.
Ok so then those married by Father Stevens don't have the same legal
rights as those by local authorities, that's good to know for future
reference in the court systems, thanks for the information
There is no such thing as a gay marriage. There is only a civil contract.
Marriage is a gift from God and involves one man and one woman.
No marriage is just the union of two people.Whether you married by
Father Stevens in the local parish or by Judge Green in the town hall
you are a considered married and have the same rights and
responsibilities.
Nope. Marriage is a joining of one man and one woman. Father Stevens and Judge
Green are only witnesses. Both say "do you xxx take this yyy...." One, the
civil contract, is issued by civil authorities (Judge Green).
No marriage is just the union of two people, if you think otherwise
you are mistaken. No Father Stevens and Judge Green are not the
witnesses, they are the officials there must be two other witnesses.
The civil license in both cases does have the same rights and responsibilities
in civil issues only. However, the true joining is in the sight of God, and
that is the marriage.
No marriage is just the union of two people, if you think otherwise
you are mistaken
God calls homosexuality a despicable act and is not condoned.
Only in your small bigoted mind, unless of course you have some
writings of god that he feels this way, mind you they must be by god,
preferable notarized
Azrael
There was no "before" the beginning of our universe, because once upon a time there was no time.
John D. Barrow
Question: If I get im my spaceship and fly to the very edge of the universe what do I see out the front window?
Question #2 if I ever meet Stephen Hawkings "What is the most mass a black hole can obsorb and what happens after it reaches that point and trys to absorb more matter?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: I saw two married men kissing each other yesterday |
01 May 2005 08:05:21 AM |
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On Sun, 01 May 2005 08:23:51 GMT, Azrael <god@my.computer.palace.com> wrote:
Mortal sin means destruction of a relationship with God. So it doesn't matter
if they buy in or not. God does not run a democracy.
You still didn't explain how mortal sin was different then normal sin.
Sin is sin. There's mortal (serious) sin and venial (less serious) sin. One
flat out destroys your relationship with God, and the other is of a much less
serious nature.
Apparently the don't follow your god so the fact that he is a
tyrannical despot is beside the point
Oh, he isn't.
Nope. Marriage is a spiritual union between one man and one woman. The civil
contract is nothing more than a license issued by local authorities to establish
legal rights of the parties.
Ok so then those married by Father Stevens don't have the same legal
rights as those by local authorities, that's good to know for future
reference in the court systems, thanks for the information
Wrong again. Every marriage performed by Father Stevens is concluded afterwards
by the signing of a civil contract.
Civil law mandates the civil contract.
Nope. Marriage is a joining of one man and one woman. Father Stevens and Judge
Green are only witnesses. Both say "do you xxx take this yyy...." One, the
civil contract, is issued by civil authorities (Judge Green).
No marriage is just the union of two people, if you think otherwise
you are mistaken. No Father Stevens and Judge Green are not the
witnesses, they are the officials there must be two other witnesses.
Sorry, Father Stevens and the judge are witnesses only as evidenced by the words
"do you TAKE.....".
The civil license in both cases does have the same rights and responsibilities
in civil issues only. However, the true joining is in the sight of God, and
that is the marriage.
No marriage is just the union of two people, if you think otherwise
you are mistaken
Not only is it a union of 2 people, it's only between one man and one woman.
God calls homosexuality a despicable act and is not condoned.
Only in your small bigoted mind, unless of course you have some
writings of god that he feels this way, mind you they must be by god,
preferable notarized
It's in the bible.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Azrael" |
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| Title: Re: I saw two married men kissing each other yesterday |
02 May 2005 03:07:27 AM |
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On Sun, 01 May 2005 08:05:21 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 01 May 2005 08:23:51 GMT, Azrael <god@my.computer.palace.com> wrote:
Mortal sin means destruction of a relationship with God. So it doesn't matter
if they buy in or not. God does not run a democracy.
You still didn't explain how mortal sin was different then normal sin.
Sin is sin. There's mortal (serious) sin and venial (less serious) sin. One
flat out destroys your relationship with God, and the other is of a much less
serious nature.
Apparently the don't follow your god so the fact that he is a
tyrannical despot is beside the point
Oh, he isn't.
Nope. Marriage is a spiritual union between one man and one woman. The civil
contract is nothing more than a license issued by local authorities to establish
legal rights of the parties.
Ok so then those married by Father Stevens don't have the same legal
rights as those by local authorities, that's good to know for future
reference in the court systems, thanks for the information
Wrong again. Every marriage performed by Father Stevens is concluded afterwards
by the signing of a civil contract.
Civil law mandates the civil contract.
So then it is civil law that thus grants the married couple their
rights, Like I said it's good to know and thus states that marriage is
a civil affair, for if Father Stevens were to forget to have the
couple sign the document then they would not be married.
Nope. Marriage is a joining of one man and one woman. Father Stevens and Judge
Green are only witnesses. Both say "do you xxx take this yyy...." One, the
civil contract, is issued by civil authorities (Judge Green).
No marriage is just the union of two people, if you think otherwise
you are mistaken. No Father Stevens and Judge Green are not the
witnesses, they are the officials there must be two other witnesses.
Sorry, Father Stevens and the judge are witnesses only as evidenced by the words
"do you TAKE.....".
No they are the officiators there are two others who provide the
witness portion, I used to work in the clerks office I have seen many
marriage certificates
The civil license in both cases does have the same rights and responsibilities
in civil issues only. However, the true joining is in the sight of God, and
that is the marriage.
No marriage is just the union of two people, if you think otherwise
you are mistaken
Not only is it a union of 2 people, it's only between one man and one woman.
No marriage is a civil thing and can be changed by the civil
authorities as they see fit, if it became popular they could amend it
so that you could marry a dog if they wanted to.
God calls homosexuality a despicable act and is not condoned.
Only in your small bigoted mind, unless of course you have some
writings of god that he feels this way, mind you they must be by god,
preferable notarized
It's in the bible.
God wrote exactly zero words that are in the bible, the entire book
was written by those in the employ of the church.
Azrael
There was no "before" the beginning of our universe, because once upon a time there was no time.
John D. Barrow
Question: If I get im my spaceship and fly to the very edge of the universe what do I see out the front window?
Question #2 if I ever meet Stephen Hawkings "What is the most mass a black hole can obsorb and what happens after it reaches that point and trys to absorb more matter?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: I saw two married men kissing each other yesterday |
03 May 2005 05:27:33 AM |
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 08:07:27 GMT, Azrael <god@my.computer.palace.com> wrote:
Wrong again. Every marriage performed by Father Stevens is concluded afterwards
by the signing of a civil contract.
Civil law mandates the civil contract.
So then it is civil law that thus grants the married couple their
rights,
Their *civil rights*. Dual liability for debt, ownership of the house, etc.
Like I said it's good to know and thus states that marriage is
a civil affair, for if Father Stevens were to forget to have the
couple sign the document then they would not be married.
Sure they would, because the marriage is the God part, not the civil contract.
The civil contract is a United States, et al, requirement.
Nope. Marriage is a joining of one man and one woman. Father Stevens and Judge
Green are only witnesses. Both say "do you xxx take this yyy...." One, the
civil contract, is issued by civil authorities (Judge Green).
No marriage is just the union of two people, if you think otherwise
you are mistaken. No Father Stevens and Judge Green are not the
witnesses, they are the officials there must be two other witnesses.
Sorry, Father Stevens and the judge are witnesses only as evidenced by the words
"do you TAKE.....".
No they are the officiators there are two others who provide the
witness portion, I used to work in the clerks office I have seen many
marriage certificates
Right - it's a civil law document for legal disposition of the couple's civil
responsibilities.
Not only is it a union of 2 people, it's only between one man and one woman.
No marriage is a civil thing and can be changed by the civil
authorities as they see fit, if it became popular they could amend it
so that you could marry a dog if they wanted to.
That's the sad possibility following 2 queers signing a civil contract.
God calls homosexuality a despicable act and is not condoned.
Only in your small bigoted mind, unless of course you have some
writings of god that he feels this way, mind you they must be by god,
preferable notarized
It's in the bible.
God wrote exactly zero words that are in the bible, the entire book
was written by those in the employ of the church.
What church?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Azrael" |
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| Title: Re: I saw two married men kissing each other yesterday |
03 May 2005 04:02:16 PM |
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 05:27:33 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 02 May 2005 08:07:27 GMT, Azrael <god@my.computer.palace.com> wrote:
Wrong again. Every marriage performed by Father Stevens is concluded afterwards
by the signing of a civil contract.
Civil law mandates the civil contract.
So then it is civil law that thus grants the married couple their
rights,
Their *civil rights*. Dual liability for debt, ownership of the house, etc.
Like I said it's good to know and thus states that marriage is
a civil affair, for if Father Stevens were to forget to have the
couple sign the document then they would not be married.
Sure they would, because the marriage is the God part, not the civil contract.
The civil contract is a United States, et al, requirement.
Well there were marriages in the soviet union and other eastern bloc
countries,marriage exists in India, China and there is little to no
god in those places.
If Father Stevens performs the ceremony the couple is considered a
married couple.
If Judge Green performs the ceremony the couple is considered a
married couple
In some places if a couple lives together for a certain numbers of
years they have what is considered a common law marriage and they are
considered a married couple
All three of these groups have the same rights and responsibilities,
you are just trying to define marriage to fit your own definition
Nope. Marriage is a joining of one man and one woman. Father Stevens and Judge
Green are only witnesses. Both say "do you xxx take this yyy...." One, the
civil contract, is issued by civil authorities (Judge Green).
No marriage is just the union of two people, if you think otherwise
you are mistaken. No Father Stevens and Judge Green are not the
witnesses, they are the officials there must be two other witnesses.
Sorry, Father Stevens and the judge are witnesses only as evidenced by the words
"do you TAKE.....".
No they are the officiators there are two others who provide the
witness portion, I used to work in the clerks office I have seen many
marriage certificates
Right - it's a civil law document for legal disposition of the couple's civil
responsibilities.
Not only is it a union of 2 people, it's only between one man and one woman.
No marriage is a civil thing and can be changed by the civil
authorities as they see fit, if it became popular they could amend it
so that you could marry a dog if they wanted to.
That's the sad possibility following 2 queers signing a civil contract.
God calls homosexuality a despicable act and is not condoned.
Only in your small bigoted mind, unless of course you have some
writings of god that he feels this way, mind you they must be by god,
preferable notarized
It's in the bible.
God wrote exactly zero words that are in the bible, the entire book
was written by those in the employ of the church.
What church?
Well since we are talking about the bible I would have to say the
christian church (churches of Rome,Eastern Orthodoxy,Greek Orthodoxy),
if you want to get nick-picky you could claim that the old testament
was already written before the rest of the bible, then the priests of
Judaism and the temple of Solomon would be the ones I'm talking about.
How ever we do know from which cultures and religions vast tracts of
the old testament comes from so listing all the churches/temples would
be more than just a little time consuming.
Azrael
The thiest/diest defense:
1)I believe in god, ergo god exists
2)I believe in god, ergo I know what god wills, wants, the path to god, etc.
3)I believe in god, ergo I am right/correct
4)You don't agree with me, you are wrong (see 1,2,and/or 3 above)
5)You dont' beleive as I do then you are wrong (see 1,2,and/or 3 above)
6)You want proof of god? (see 1,2,and/or 3 above)
7)You have evidence god does not exist (see 1,2,and/or 3 above)
8)If you don't believe as I do you are wrong (see 1,2,and/or 3 above)
There was no "before" the beginning of our universe, because once upon a time there was no time.
John D. Barrow
Question #1: If I get im my spaceship and fly to the very edge of the universe what do I see out the front window?
Question #2: What is the most mass/matter that a black hole can obsorb and what happens after it reaches that point and trys to absorb more matter?
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