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"Gactimus" |
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30 Jan 2005 05:20:44 AM |
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I Used To Be An Atheist Until I Saw The Light |
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could make
such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an atheist. It
felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to idiots, or obey
any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior. But after a while I
noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I bagged it. (Agnosticism
didn't solve anything either, but at least it left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of the
doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due. It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a strawman, and
that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make half as much sense
as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers or
briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
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| User: "dwacon" |
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30 Jan 2005 08:22:39 AM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:41fc6eac@x-privat.org...
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of the
doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due. It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a strawman, and
that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make half as much sense
as blaming the people.
Welcome to the club!
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During the Passion of the Christ
there was a NAKED BOY running around...
http://www.cafepress.com/powerpress
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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31 Jan 2005 05:14:08 PM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:41fc6eac@x-privat.org...
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could make
such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an atheist. It
felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to idiots, or obey
any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior. But after a while I
noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I bagged it. (Agnosticism
didn't solve anything either, but at least it left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of the
doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due. It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a strawman, and
that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make half as much sense
as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers or
briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
You call that realizing atheism? What a sad example.
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| User: "sanguinevikings" |
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30 Jan 2005 11:55:18 AM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:41fc6eac@x-privat.org...
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of the
doubt more often.
I give him the benefit of the doubt 24/7
And I'm still able to give idiots their due.
It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a strawman,
God *is* a strawman.
and
that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make half as much sense
as blaming the people.
I totally agree.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers or
briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
Keep thinking. Some, at least, of your thinking is along the right lines.
Here's some help:
God doesn't exist. That's why individual people are entirely responsible for
their actions. That's why nobody is to blame for tsunamis, earthquakes,
meteorites. It's also why people are to blame for famines, hurricanes,
tornadoes, floods etc. e.g. those who drive SUVs, oppose the Kyoto treaty or
even try to deny global warming.
Religion makes it easier, not harder to excuse moral turpitiude.
Religion makes it harder, not easier to define moral turpitude, and thus
achieve an intrinsically secure moral framework.
Religion makes it damn near impossible to think at all.
Repeat this mantra 100 times a day:
Recieved wisdom isn't wisdom at all.
I''m not telling you to do the above. I couldn't, could I? It's entirely up
to you whether or not you do. You should try to understand its implications
as well.
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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| Title: Re: I Used To Be An Atheist Until I Saw The Light |
30 Jan 2005 06:49:44 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> writes:
I saw the light.
I was not impressed.
Elf
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| User: "johac" |
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31 Jan 2005 06:00:50 AM |
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In article <87mzuqkb07.fsf@drizzle.com>,
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> writes:
I saw the light.
I was not impressed.
Elf
I saw the light too, but it was just another dim bulb.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "Sam" |
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31 Jan 2005 06:25:29 AM |
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johac wrote:
In article <87mzuqkb07.fsf@drizzle.com>,
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> writes:
I saw the light.
I was not impressed.
Elf
I saw the light too, but it was just another dim bulb.
i got hit by a truck when i saw the light, i've learned when you see the
light you gotta keep moving
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Sam
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| User: "johac" |
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01 Feb 2005 05:53:41 AM |
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In article <tbkLd.18576$5R.1167@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
In article <87mzuqkb07.fsf@drizzle.com>,
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> writes:
I saw the light.
I was not impressed.
Elf
I saw the light too, but it was just another dim bulb.
i got hit by a truck when i saw the light, i've learned when you see the
light you gotta keep moving
Remember that the light at the end of the tunnel is often an onrushing
train.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "" |
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30 Jan 2005 02:04:34 PM |
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Gactimus wrote:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could
make
such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an atheist.
It
felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to idiots, or
obey
any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior.
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of
the
doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due. It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a
strawman,
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not.
so you're an ego maniac and deeply disturbed delusional, big deal, now
that you've converted to theism you're still an ego maniac and a deeply
disturbed delusional, what an improvement.
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| User: "jwk" |
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02 Feb 2005 04:16:51 PM |
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Gactimus wrote:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could
make
such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an atheist.
It
felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to idiots, or
obey
any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior. But after a
while I
noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I bagged it.
(Agnosticism
didn't solve anything either, but at least it left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of
the
doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due. It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a
strawman, and
that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make half as much
sense
as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear
boxers or
briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
You weren't an atheist; you were an idiot. Still are.
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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30 Jan 2005 02:19:01 PM |
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Gactimus wrote:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could make
such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an atheist. It
felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to idiots, or obey
any rules.
Wow, what an immoral (or at least amoral) person you must be.
And I felt really wise and self-superior. But after a while I
noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I bagged it. (Agnosticism
didn't solve anything either, but at least it left options open.)
What exactly did you expect it to "solve"?
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser.
If this is the wiser version of you, I dread to think
what you must have been like before.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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30 Jan 2005 11:51:26 PM |
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In article <41fc6eac@x-privat.org>, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net>
wrote:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could make
such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an atheist. It
felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to idiots, or obey
any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior. But after a while I
noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I bagged it. (Agnosticism
didn't solve anything either, but at least it left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of the
doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due. It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a strawman, and
that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make half as much sense
as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers or
briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
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Were you an atheist or a theist on Dec. 12, 2004 when you wrote this:
"Admit it, women, sex never felt like sex until he beat the *****
out of you and forced his ***** into every hole in your body."
- Gactimus
See:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Admit+it,+women,+sex+never+fel
t+lik
earle
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| User: "Kang" |
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31 Jan 2005 12:29:55 AM |
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Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote in
news:earle.jones-804DC0.15512630012005@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
In article <41fc6eac@x-privat.org>, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net>
wrote:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could
make such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an
atheist. It felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to
idiots, or obey any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior.
But after a while I noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I
bagged it. (Agnosticism didn't solve anything either, but at least it
left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of
the doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due.
It's dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a
strawman, and that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make
half as much sense as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers
or briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
Were you an atheist or a theist on Dec. 12, 2004 when you wrote this:
"Admit it, women, sex never felt like sex until he beat the *****
out of you and forced his ***** into every hole in your body."
According to Google, Gactimus has never written that.
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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31 Jan 2005 01:43:27 AM |
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In article <41fd7c03@x-privat.org>, Kang <kang@cnn.com> wrote:
Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote in
news:earle.jones-804DC0.15512630012005@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
In article <41fc6eac@x-privat.org>, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net>
wrote:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could
make such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an
atheist. It felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to
idiots, or obey any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior.
But after a while I noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I
bagged it. (Agnosticism didn't solve anything either, but at least it
left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of
the doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due.
It's dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a
strawman, and that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make
half as much sense as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers
or briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
Were you an atheist or a theist on Dec. 12, 2004 when you wrote this:
"Admit it, women, sex never felt like sex until he beat the *****
out of you and forced his ***** into every hole in your body."
According to Google, Gactimus has never written that.
*
According to Google:
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Christian NeoCon Gactimus: Women "Liked" Being Raped
All 7 messages in topic - view as tree
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****
Dec 12 2004, 5:30 pm show options
"Admit it, women, sex never felt like sex until he beat the *****
out of you and forced his ***** into every hole in
your body."
- Gactimus aka Xomicron aka Snubis [1]
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Admit+it,+women,+sex+never+felt+lik
....
Also according to Google:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=gactimus++xomicron
This site lists 50 or 60 references to the juvenile obscene postings
of Gactimus -- also known as Xomicron and some other pseudonyms.
earle
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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30 Jan 2005 05:23:38 AM |
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On 29 Jan 2005, Gactimus dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could
make such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an
atheist. It felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to
idiots, or obey any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior.
But after a while I noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I
bagged it. (Agnosticism didn't solve anything either, but at least it
left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of
the doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due.
It's dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a
strawman, and that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make
half as much sense as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers
or briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
So you're a True Scotsman now?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you
wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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30 Jan 2005 07:52:57 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:23:38 -0600, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers
or briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
So you're a True Scotsman now?
It depends, does he play the pipes/like haggis?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Iain" |
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31 Jan 2005 04:25:48 PM |
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Ironically, only 5% of Scots are practicing Christians.
~Iain
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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31 Jan 2005 06:59:15 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:52:57 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> said in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:23:38 -0600, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers
or briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
So you're a True Scotsman now?
It depends, does he play the pipes/like haggis?
He eats his porridge with sugar - isn't that good enough?
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"To assume the existence of an unperceivable being ... does not facilitate understanding
the orderliness we find in the perceivable world."
- Letter to an Iowa student who asked, What is God? July, 1953; Einstein Archive 59-085
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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31 Jan 2005 04:18:21 PM |
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on 30 Jan 2005 in alt.atheism, Al Klein dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:52:57 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> said in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:23:38 -0600, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers
or briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
So you're a True Scotsman now?
It depends, does he play the pipes/like haggis?
He eats his porridge with sugar - isn't that good enough?
Isn't that like cooking instant grits in Alabama?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are the kind of
people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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31 Jan 2005 10:32:16 PM |
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On 30 Jan 2005 06:20:44 +0100, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> thought
hard and said:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could make
such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an atheist. It
felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to idiots, or obey
any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior. But after a while I
noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I bagged it. (Agnosticism
didn't solve anything either, but at least it left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of the
doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due. It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a strawman, and
that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make half as much sense
as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers or
briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
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-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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31 Jan 2005 10:45:50 PM |
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Daniel Kolle wrote:
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to b=ADe an
atheist.
That's because the screed that Gactimus wrote is the same standard
piece of tired screed that the theists were selling 45 years ago when I
was a churchgoer. They never seem to get new material, nor even check
to see if any of its claims are at all accurate. It's a set piece.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herder
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| User: "Sam" |
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01 Feb 2005 02:40:12 AM |
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Daniel Kolle wrote:
On 30 Jan 2005 06:20:44 +0100, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> thought
hard and said:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God could make
such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an atheist. It
felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to idiots, or obey
any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior. But after a while I
noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I bagged it. (Agnosticism
didn't solve anything either, but at least it left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of the
doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due. It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a strawman, and
that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make half as much sense
as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear boxers or
briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
sometimes they take the blue pill
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Sam
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| User: "" |
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02 Feb 2005 11:59:37 PM |
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Daniel Kolle wrote:
On 30 Jan 2005 06:20:44 +0100, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> thought
hard and said:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God
could make
such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an
atheist. It
felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to idiots, or
obey
any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior. But after a
while I
noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I bagged it.
(Agnosticism
didn't solve anything either, but at least it left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of
the
doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due. It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a
strawman, and
that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make half as much
sense
as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear
boxers or
briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr
Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
And every one of these "used to bes" think it's all about not having to
follow rules, or being "mad at God". How sad; how embarrassing; how
very stupid.
Fundies are congenitally incapable of seeing another person's
viewpoint. This leads to laughable testimonials like this one,
plagiarized by Gactimus.
Kermit
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| User: "" |
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03 Feb 2005 12:02:38 AM |
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Daniel Kolle wrote:
On 30 Jan 2005 06:20:44 +0100, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> thought
hard and said:
When I was a kid, I couldn't understand how a wise and just God
could make
such a sodding world full of sodding people. So I became an
atheist. It
felt great. I no longer felt any pressure to be civil to idiots, or
obey
any rules. And I felt really wise and self-superior. But after a
while I
noticed it wasn't really solving anything, so I bagged it.
(Agnosticism
didn't solve anything either, but at least it left options open.)
Now I'm older, and a bit wiser. I'm able to give God the benefit of
the
doubt more often. And I'm still able to give idiots their due. It's
dawned on me that the God I initially rejected was in part a
strawman, and
that blaming God for how crummy people were didn't make half as much
sense
as blaming the people.
But I was really an atheist, and now I'm not. And I don't wear
boxers or
briefs under my kilt. But I think He'll forgive me.
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr
Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
And every one of these "used to bes" think it's all about not having to
follow rules, or being "mad at God". How sad; how embarrassing; how
very stupid.
Fundies are congenitally incapable of seeing another person's
viewpoint. This leads to laughable testimonials like this one,
plagiarized by Gactimus.
Kermit
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: I Used To Be An Atheist Until I Saw The Light |
01 Feb 2005 02:32:17 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:32:16 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
Since everyone is an atheist at birth, yes.
--
"Damn. Looks like all of usenet agrees that you don't have the logical
faculties to prove the statement 'dogshit is not peanut butter' if we
gave you a jar of each and a box of crackers" - John Hattan to Tichy
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: I Used To Be An Atheist Until I Saw The Light |
02 Feb 2005 12:43:51 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:32:17 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
thought hard and said:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:32:16 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
Since everyone is an atheist at birth, yes.
Technically, yes.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "Sam R" |
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| Title: Re: I Used To Be An Atheist Until I Saw The Light |
02 Feb 2005 10:12:14 AM |
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"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uh8001laa9iflop9j4osgg10j89qhnjlbu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:32:17 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
thought hard and said:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:32:16 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
Since everyone is an atheist at birth, yes.
Technically, yes.
Actually, no. At birth you can only be an agnostic. I doubt you pop in to
the world holding a belief in no god.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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02 Feb 2005 01:36:40 PM |
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"Sam R" <mynameissamandimanalcoholic@cowjam.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ctq93n$k9t$2@news.freedom2surf.net...
"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uh8001laa9iflop9j4osgg10j89qhnjlbu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:32:17 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
thought hard and said:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:32:16 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
Since everyone is an atheist at birth, yes.
Technically, yes.
Actually, no. At birth you can only be an agnostic. I doubt you pop in
to the world holding a belief in no god.
Obviously you don't know what atheism is.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: I Used To Be An Atheist Until I Saw The Light |
02 Feb 2005 11:24:54 PM |
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:12:14 -0000, "Sam R"
<mynameissamandimanalcoholic@cowjam.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uh8001laa9iflop9j4osgg10j89qhnjlbu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:32:17 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
thought hard and said:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:32:16 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
Since everyone is an atheist at birth, yes.
Technically, yes.
Actually, no. At birth you can only be an agnostic. I doubt you pop in to
the world holding a belief in no god.
You pop into the world not believing in any god - an atheist. I doubt
you pop into the world determined to not make statements for which you
have no evidence - an agnostic.
So at birth, people are atheist, with no stance on gnosticism at all -
neither gnostic atheist nor agnostic atheist.
(And some pop into the world not understanding language any better
than they will decades later.)
--
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit
priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies
about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and
have always been an atheist."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945,
responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein
to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic
magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: I Used To Be An Atheist Until I Saw The Light |
08 Feb 2005 10:35:23 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:24:54 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:12:14 -0000, "Sam R"
<mynameissamandimanalcoholic@cowjam.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uh8001laa9iflop9j4osgg10j89qhnjlbu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:32:17 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
thought hard and said:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:32:16 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
Since everyone is an atheist at birth, yes.
Technically, yes.
Actually, no. At birth you can only be an agnostic. I doubt you pop in to
the world holding a belief in no god.
You pop into the world not believing in any god - an atheist. I doubt
you pop into the world determined to not make statements for which you
have no evidence - an agnostic.
So at birth, people are atheist, with no stance on gnosticism at all -
neither gnostic atheist nor agnostic atheist.
(And some pop into the world not understanding language any better
than they will decades later.)
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| User: "TCS" |
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| Title: Re: I Used To Be An Atheist Until I Saw The Light |
02 Feb 2005 11:37:34 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:24:54 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:12:14 -0000, "Sam R"
<mynameissamandimanalcoholic@cowjam.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uh8001laa9iflop9j4osgg10j89qhnjlbu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:32:17 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
thought hard and said:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:32:16 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
Every Christian Fundie (and every troll, it seems) used to be an
atheist.
Since everyone is an atheist at birth, yes.
Technically, yes.
Actually, no. At birth you can only be an agnostic. I doubt you pop in to
the world holding a belief in no god.
You pop into the world not believing in any god - an atheist. I doubt
you pop into the world determined to not make statements for which you
have no evidence - an agnostic.
So at birth, people are atheist, with no stance on gnosticism at all -
neither gnostic atheist nor agnostic atheist.
I've a Siamese cat that I'm sure popped into the world as a theist. He was
sure that he was the lord and master of the universe. The sooner everyone
else acknowledges this simple fact, the sooner there'll be peace.
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