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19 Mar 2006 07:43:17 AM |
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Idiot Gets $1.6 Million Grant to Prove God |
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
Budikka
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot Gets $1.6 Million Grant to Prove God |
19 Mar 2006 07:55:32 AM |
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On 19 Mar 2006 05:43:17 -0800 in alt.atheism, Budikka666
("Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
Nice work if you can get it...!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot Gets $1.6 Million Grant to Prove God |
19 Mar 2006 02:24:58 PM |
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It is a nice work until money finishes.
Leopoldo
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot Gets $1.6 Million Grant to Prove God |
19 Mar 2006 02:34:24 PM |
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wrote:
It is a nice work until money finishes.
Leopoldo
No probs. Just tell them you're on to something, but need to do a bit more
research to nail it down. They'll stump up the cash.
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Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot Gets $1.6 Million Grant to Prove God |
19 Mar 2006 08:08:10 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On 19 Mar 2006 05:43:17 -0800 in alt.atheism, Budikka666
("Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
Nice work if you can get it...!
I'm wondering if he needs a research assistant....
Budikka
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot Gets $1.6 Million Grant to Prove God |
19 Mar 2006 08:42:44 AM |
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On 19 Mar 2006 06:08:10 -0800 in alt.atheism, Budikka666
("Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Therion Ware wrote:
On 19 Mar 2006 05:43:17 -0800 in alt.atheism, Budikka666
("Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
Nice work if you can get it...!
I'm wondering if he needs a research assistant....
I understand the best chance of finding Gods is in places like the
Seychelles, Mustique, mostly in 5 star hotels.
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| User: "" |
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19 Mar 2006 10:10:53 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:42:44 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On 19 Mar 2006 06:08:10 -0800 in alt.atheism, Budikka666
("Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Therion Ware wrote:
On 19 Mar 2006 05:43:17 -0800 in alt.atheism, Budikka666
("Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
Nice work if you can get it...!
I'm wondering if he needs a research assistant....
I understand the best chance of finding Gods is in places like the
Seychelles, Mustique, mostly in 5 star hotels.
I am willing to volunteer, expenses paid of course, in his
"Effects of Continuous, Extreme Sin on the Human Body" experiment.
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot Gets $1.6 Million Grant to Prove God |
25 Mar 2006 04:30:05 AM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in news:1142775796.987598.225740
@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
Budikka
That isn't exactly correct reporting. It isn't a grant but a prize.
http://woodside.blogs.com/cosmologycuriosity/2006/03/john_barrow_win.html
" From Globe and Mail by Michael Valpy, 16 March 2006:
'Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow ... won the
2006 Templeton Prize for Progress Toward Research or Discoveries about
Spiritual Realities, the world's richest individual scholarly research
grant [i.e., $1.6-million]. Its initiator, mutual-fund investor Sir John
Templeton, specified that it be worth more than the Nobel Prize (which is
worth about $1.5-million) so the media would take it seriously ...
'His ideas and research fit to a T many theologians' underlying notions of
the new cosmology, the idea that, because the universe did not create
itself, it must have a cause separate from itself ...
'He has been a popular writer in Britain since the publication of his 1986
book, The Anthropic Cosmological Principle, co-authored with mathematician
Frank Tipler, and has lectured on cosmology at the Venice Film Festival, 10
Downing St., Windsor Castle and the Vatican.
'His most recent book is The Infinite Book: A Short Guide to the Boundless,
Timeless and Endless. His 2002 play, Infinities, was a smash hit for the
two seasons it ran at Milan's La Scala.' "
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot Gets $1.6 Million Grant to Prove God |
19 Mar 2006 08:17:27 AM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
What's idiotic about that? Looks like easy money to me.
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
Budikka
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Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Peter" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot Gets $1.6 Million Grant to Prove God |
19 Mar 2006 07:57:30 AM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
Budikka
Idiot? I don't think so. He's a fucking genius! He's got to be one of
the greatest con men in history. He doesn't need to prove anything.
He's already got the money.
excerpt:
"Dr. Barrow said in an interview yesterday he is not sure yet how he
will use the money. He also said he doesn't think the U.S.-based John
Templeton Foundation, which oversees selection of the award's annual
winner, had any particular expectations of what research he would do."
Peter
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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19 Mar 2006 08:07:33 AM |
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Peter wrote:
Budikka666 wrote:
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
Budikka
Idiot? I don't think so. He's a fucking genius! He's got to be one of
the greatest con men in history. He doesn't need to prove anything.
He's already got the money.
LoL! I think you're right!
Budikka
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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19 Mar 2006 09:09:56 AM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
url fix:
http://tinyurl.com/nbmma
Let's see....we have a mathematician who's gonna do research into
god....notice that no empirical research need be involved in this
endevor....
Too bad idiots with money don't spend more of it on science, so we
could actually learn about what's going on.
Jim
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| User: "stoney" |
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22 Mar 2006 09:13:53 AM |
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On 19 Mar 2006 07:09:56 -0800, "J Forbes" <jforbspam@fastmail.fm> wrote
in alt.atheism
Budikka666 wrote:
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
url fix:
http://tinyurl.com/nbmma
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060316.wxtheory16/BNStory/International/home
God's scientist receives supreme award
Richest grant goes to cosmologist who says religion best explains laws
of universe
MICHAEL VALPY
From Thursday's Globe and Mail
Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe.
He won the 2006 Templeton Prize for Progress Toward Research or
Discoveries about Spiritual Realities, the world's richest individual
scholarly research grant. Its initiator, mutual-fund investor Sir John
Templeton, specified that it be worth more than the Nobel Prize (which
is worth about $1.5-million) so the media would take it seriously.
Dr. Barrow, 53, author of 17 books and one play (about infinity),
believes that monotheistic religious thought about God and creation
offers a better explanation than anything else, including most science,
of how the universe works.
He is one of the leading proponents of the anthropic principle of the
universe, the dials-set-right idea -- the notion that the universe is,
in Goldilocks's words, "just right" for life on Earth. Because if it
were a little bigger or smaller, a little colder or warmer, a little
younger or older, then life wouldn't exist.
His ideas and research fit to a T many theologians' underlying notions
of the new cosmology, the idea that, because the universe did not create
itself, it must have a cause separate from itself. Or as one of them,
reading Dr. Barrow's acceptance speech for his award, said admiringly:
"I wish I'd said that."
Dr. Barrow is director of Cambridge's Millennium Mathematics Project and
Gresham professor of astronomy at London's Gresham College, the world's
oldest science professorship, founded in 1596.
He has been a popular writer in Britain since the publication of his
1986 book, The Anthropic Cosmological Principle, co-authored with
mathematician Frank Tipler, and has lectured on cosmology at the Venice
Film Festival, 10 Downing St., Windsor Castle and the Vatican.
His most recent book is The Infinite Book: A Short Guide to the
Boundless, Timeless and Endless. His 2002 play, Infinities, was a smash
hit for the two seasons it ran at Milan's La Scala.
Dr. Barrow said in an interview yesterday he is not sure yet how he will
use the money. He also said he doesn't think the U.S.-based John
Templeton Foundation, which oversees selection of the award's annual
winner, had any particular expectations of what research he would do.
The essence of his research, as he put it, is the quest for the simple
laws -- "perhaps just one law" -- that lie behind all the complexities
of the universe, "like the laws of nature that are so impressively,
beautifully symmetrical, but can have such highly irregular,
asymmetrical outcomes."
What has attracted the Templeton Foundation is his engagement with the
structure of the universe and its laws that make life possible, as well
as the multidisciplinary perspectives he has developed on the limits of
scientific explanation and the mysteries of nothingness and infinity.
"Over the past 75 years," he says, "astronomers have illuminated the
vault of the heavens in a completely unexpected way."
They have found, he says, a universe not only bigger than was once
thought, but getting bigger. They have found that life on Earth
comprises complicated atoms of carbon, nitrogen and oxygen whose nuclei
took almost 10 billion years to be formed by "stellar alchemy" before
being blasted through the universe by the explosions of dying stars.
"So you begin to understand why it is no surprise that the universe
seems so big and so old. It takes nearly 10 billion years to make the
building blocks of living complexity in the stars and, because the
universe is expanding, it must be at least 10 billion light years in
size. We could not exist in a universe that was significantly smaller.
"The vastness of the universe is often cited as evidence for the extreme
likelihood of life elsewhere. [But] while there may be life, even
conscious life, elsewhere, sheer size is not compelling. The universe
needs to be billions of light years in size just to support one lonely
outpost of life."
Dr. Barrow says that astronomy's revelations -- that a big, old, dark,
cold universe with its planets and stars and galaxies separated by vast
distances is necessary for the creation and existence of pinpricks of
life -- have "transformed the simple-minded, life-averse, meaningless
universe of the skeptical philosophers.
"It breathes new life into so many religious questions of ultimate
concern and never-ending fascination. Many of the deepest and most
engaging questions that we grapple with still about the nature of the
universe have their origins in our purely religious quest for meaning.
"We see now how it is possible for a universe that displays unending
complexity and exquisite structure to be governed by a few simple laws
that are symmetrical and intelligible, laws which govern the most
remarkable things in our universe -- populations of elementary
'particles' that are everywhere perfectly identical.
"There are some who say that just because we use our minds to appreciate
the order and complexity of the universe around us, there is nothing
more to that order than what is imposed by the human mind. That is a
serious misjudgment."
/end article
Let's see....we have a mathematician who's gonna do research into
god....notice that no empirical research need be involved in this
endevor....
Too bad idiots with money don't spend more of it on science, so we
could actually learn about what's going on.
Jim
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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19 Mar 2006 11:22:31 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Budikka666 (budikka1
@netscape.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Cambridge University cosmologist and mathematician John Barrow was
awarded $1.6-million yesterday to do research into whether God is
sitting at the control panel behind the Theory of Everything about the
universe."
http//tinyurl.com/nbmma
Befroe he can prove some god is behind everything, he'll need to
establish that there is a god. *This* oughta be fun.
Budikka
Barrow's no idiot. He knows religion pays. The idiot is the guy that
signed the check.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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