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"Son of man" |
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04 Feb 2004 09:30:32 PM |
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If all human beings on earth were killed |
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once again
roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
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| User: "Woden" |
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04 Feb 2004 10:22:13 PM |
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
No. Although, a different "intelligent" species might evolve. And the
earth wouldn't have to be "eternal". Assuming only humans were killed,
then it might only take a few millions of years for this to happen.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Son of man" |
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04 Feb 2004 10:29:35 PM |
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"Woden" <woden@charter.net> wrote in message
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
No. Although, a different "intelligent" species might evolve. And the
earth wouldn't have to be "eternal". Assuming only humans were killed,
then it might only take a few millions of years for this to happen.
And from what species do you suppose these new intelligent beings might
arise?
Can you name any species currently in existence which haven't already been
around longer than a few million years, which you think the new intelligent
beings might evolve from?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Woden" |
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| Title: Re: If all human beings on earth were killed |
05 Feb 2004 09:29:21 PM |
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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"Woden" <woden@charter.net> wrote in message
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would
once again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
No. Although, a different "intelligent" species might evolve. And
the earth wouldn't have to be "eternal". Assuming only humans were
killed, then it might only take a few millions of years for this to
happen.
And from what species do you suppose these new intelligent beings
might arise?
Can you name any species currently in existence which haven't already
been around longer than a few million years, which you think the new
intelligent beings might evolve from?
I don't see where the existence of a species for over a few million years
disqualifies it from further evolution. So really, any of a number of
species could develop intelligence (of some form). Other apes, ceteans,
squids or octopi, raccoons, etc. Given enough time, just about any
current species could eventually evolve into something intelligent.
Why do you put a "few million years" limit on what could evolve further?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Geoff" |
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06 Feb 2004 12:06:03 AM |
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"Woden" <woden@charter.net> wrote in message
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I don't see where the existence of a species for over a few million years
disqualifies it from further evolution. So really, any of a number of
species could develop intelligence (of some form). Other apes, ceteans,
squids or octopi, raccoons, etc. Given enough time, just about any
current species could eventually evolve into something intelligent.
The smart money would be on one of the mammals...but then again, the smart
money doesn't always come home with the new fur coat for baby.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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05 Feb 2004 11:48:12 AM |
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Woden" <woden@charter.net> wrote in message
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
No. Although, a different "intelligent" species might evolve. And the
earth wouldn't have to be "eternal". Assuming only humans were killed,
then it might only take a few millions of years for this to happen.
And from what species do you suppose these new intelligent beings might
arise?
Can you name any species currently in existence which haven't already been
around longer than a few million years, which you think the new
intelligent
beings might evolve from?
Why "which haven't already been around longer than a few million years"?
That is irrelevant.
If we ignore that irrelevant statement, then any number of species may
become "intelligent", including apes, dolphins, dogs, pigs, or something
very different and unexpected.
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Peacenik
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Feb 2004 10:41:10 AM |
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And so upon Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:48:12 +0000 didst Peacenik speak thusly:
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Woden" <woden@charter.net> wrote in message
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
No. Although, a different "intelligent" species might evolve. And the
earth wouldn't have to be "eternal". Assuming only humans were killed,
then it might only take a few millions of years for this to happen.
And from what species do you suppose these new intelligent beings might
arise?
Can you name any species currently in existence which haven't already been
around longer than a few million years, which you think the new
intelligent
beings might evolve from?
Why "which haven't already been around longer than a few million years"?
That is irrelevant.
Apparently he (she, it, they, lines of bad code, whatever) believes that
evolution means some sort of inevitable march towards "intelligence." So
anybody who's "been around" obviously should've been writing poetry and
building freeways already.
Of course there's no evidence that "intelligence" is always going to
arise. If we went extinct, there may never be another "intelligent"
(whatever that means) species.
I often wonder if life isn't fairly common in the universe but
"intelligence" quite rare. It is, after all, a very complex and
"expensive" thing that likely would be a survival advantage under only
very rare circumstances...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "Phillip Brown" |
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04 Feb 2004 10:59:55 PM |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 23:29:35 -0500, Son of man wrote:
"Woden" <woden@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9485EDCE77A6Bwodencharternet@216.168.3.44...
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
No. Although, a different "intelligent" species might evolve. And the
earth wouldn't have to be "eternal". Assuming only humans were killed,
then it might only take a few millions of years for this to happen.
And from what species do you suppose these new intelligent beings might
arise?
Can you name any species currently in existence which haven't already been
around longer than a few million years, which you think the new intelligent
beings might evolve from?
It would depend on whether or not a particular species came under
environmental pressure where increased 'intelligence' enhanced
reproductive success. I would look at 'generalist' species as candidates
- some primates are fairly obvious choices, but I would probably also
consider bears, for example.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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phillip brown
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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04 Feb 2004 11:56:30 PM |
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:29:35 -0500, "Son of man"
<bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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And from what species do you suppose these new intelligent beings might
arise?
Can you name any species currently in existence which haven't already been
around longer than a few million years, which you think the new intelligent
beings might evolve from?
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Why the artificial qualifications?
Why "which haven't already been around longer than a few million
years"??
I'm interested to understand your reasoning.
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| User: "Alex" |
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05 Feb 2004 07:10:22 AM |
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 16:26:30 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
Why the artificial qualifications?
Why "which haven't already been around longer than a few million
years"??
I'm interested to understand your reasoning.
My guess is that he's assuming that if it's been around for that long
(in its current form), there's no way that creature will evolve to be
the next ultimate intelligence on Earth.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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05 Feb 2004 08:22:25 AM |
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And so upon Thu, 05 Feb 2004 04:22:13 +0000 didst Woden speak thusly:
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
No. Although, a different "intelligent" species might evolve. And the
earth wouldn't have to be "eternal". Assuming only humans were killed,
then it might only take a few millions of years for this to happen.
My money's on the raccoons.
I mean, unless we nuke ourselves. Then it's roaches...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "G" |
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05 Feb 2004 08:52:56 AM |
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
And so upon Thu, 05 Feb 2004 04:22:13 +0000 didst Woden speak thusly:
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
No. Although, a different "intelligent" species might evolve. And the
earth wouldn't have to be "eternal". Assuming only humans were killed,
then it might only take a few millions of years for this to happen.
My money's on the raccoons.
I mean, unless we nuke ourselves. Then it's roaches...
As the great prophet Douglas Adams has predicted, it will be the mice.
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Eternal Lands: www.eternal-lands.com
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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05 Feb 2004 12:05:24 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:52:56 +0100, a stranger
called by some G <G@aa.false.address> came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
And so upon Thu, 05 Feb 2004 04:22:13 +0000 didst Woden speak thusly:
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
No. Although, a different "intelligent" species might evolve. And the
earth wouldn't have to be "eternal". Assuming only humans were killed,
then it might only take a few millions of years for this to happen.
My money's on the raccoons.
I mean, unless we nuke ourselves. Then it's roaches...
As the great prophet Douglas Adams has predicted, it will be the mice.
Considering that all the mammals on Earth weren't much bigger than
mice 65 million years ago, who knows? But raccoons have a head start,
opposable thumbs, binocular vision, good brain mass.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Son of man" |
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04 Feb 2004 09:32:15 PM |
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again
roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
If the answer is 'no' would the implication be that the first human beings
were created?
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| User: "Woden" |
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04 Feb 2004 10:23:12 PM |
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:OKiUb.4475$Rl4.3386@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again
roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
If the answer is 'no' would the implication be that the first human
beings were created?
How to you come up with this implication? There is nothing to indicate
that the first humans were created.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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05 Feb 2004 12:03:37 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:32:15 -0500, a stranger
called by some "Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
If the answer is 'no' would the implication be that the first human beings
were created?
Where do you get this stuff?
If we all died tomorrow, there might someday arise a new sapient
species, but it wouldn't be human. (I'd bet on the raccoons, myself.)
It would take millions of years for this to happen.
We are the products of evolution, and our intelligence is a favorable
adaptation to our early environment.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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05 Feb 2004 12:46:01 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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If we all died tomorrow, there might someday arise a new sapient
species, but it wouldn't be human. (I'd bet on the raccoons, myself.)
It would take millions of years for this to happen.
I don't want us to all die tomorrow. I want a large group of fundies, who
can't reproduce to survive and watch each other die off one by one (in
comfort and luxury)
That's the only way they will know that they were wrong.
(Never mind they would find it in the bible and make it the second coming.)
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| User: "Son of man" |
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05 Feb 2004 12:33:39 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:7715209g92bt4vd7ck2dmjjebdthuon9k8@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:32:15 -0500, a stranger
called by some "Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
If the answer is 'no' would the implication be that the first human
beings
were created?
Where do you get this stuff?
If we all died tomorrow, there might someday arise a new sapient
species, but it wouldn't be human. (I'd bet on the raccoons, myself.)
It would take millions of years for this to happen.
So is the assumption, then, that while human beings exist, racoons (or
whatever) will never evolve into the new intelligent species? My question
basically boils down to, why hasn't any other species evolved into
intelligence as human beings have?
We are the products of evolution, and our intelligence is a favorable
adaptation to our early environment.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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05 Feb 2004 06:09:41 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:33:39 -0500, a stranger
called by some "Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:7715209g92bt4vd7ck2dmjjebdthuon9k8@4ax.com...
If we all died tomorrow, there might someday arise a new sapient
species, but it wouldn't be human. (I'd bet on the raccoons, myself.)
It would take millions of years for this to happen.
So is the assumption, then, that while human beings exist, racoons (or
whatever) will never evolve into the new intelligent species? My question
basically boils down to, why hasn't any other species evolved into
intelligence as human beings have?
How do you know there hasn't been other intelligent races, or ones
co-existing now? Dolphins and whales have complex languages, and show
problem-solving abilities. I've had the great pleasure of sitting
down with Koko, one of the gorillas who was taught American Sign
Language, and have a conversation. There's an intelligence there, but
one different there.
The dinosaurs existed for over 100 million years.. there might have
been an intelligent species in there at the very end. What artifacts
could survive 65 million years? Maybe they never got past their
neolithic period.
Or, it could be that H. sapiens is the first species to put all the
pieces together, and have the cranial capacity to develop a
technological culture.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Alex" |
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05 Feb 2004 05:02:10 PM |
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:33:39 -0500, "Son of man"
<bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:7715209g92bt4vd7ck2dmjjebdthuon9k8@4ax.com...
If we all died tomorrow, there might someday arise a new sapient
species, but it wouldn't be human. (I'd bet on the raccoons, myself.)
It would take millions of years for this to happen.
So is the assumption, then, that while human beings exist, racoons (or
whatever) will never evolve into the new intelligent species? My question
basically boils down to, why hasn't any other species evolved into
intelligence as human beings have?
Maybe some are on their way - but you're going to have to wait a few
years before they can be recognized as such.
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| User: "satyr" |
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05 Feb 2004 10:58:18 PM |
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:33:39 -0500, "Son of man"
<bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:7715209g92bt4vd7ck2dmjjebdthuon9k8@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:32:15 -0500, a stranger
called by some "Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
If the answer is 'no' would the implication be that the first human
beings
were created?
Where do you get this stuff?
If we all died tomorrow, there might someday arise a new sapient
species, but it wouldn't be human. (I'd bet on the raccoons, myself.)
It would take millions of years for this to happen.
So is the assumption, then, that while human beings exist, racoons (or
whatever) will never evolve into the new intelligent species? My question
basically boils down to, why hasn't any other species evolved into
intelligence as human beings have?
Define "evolve into intelligence." Chimps are pretty smart, do they
qualify?
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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04 Feb 2004 10:49:25 PM |
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:32:15 -0500, "Son of man"
<bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again
roam the earth?
No.
Assuming the earth were eternal?
Life is possible on earth for a finite time - in one or two Billion
years time earth with be hostile to all life.
So I don't assume that the earth is eternal.
(The earth is remarkable for having such a long period where it is
hospitable to life.)
If the answer is 'no' would the implication be that the first human beings
were created?
No.
That would be an example of a non-sequituer.
Another example would be :
"I bought Kippers for breakfast today therefore it will not rain"
The sentence fragment before the "therefore" has no relation (or at
least no obvious or readily apparent relation) to the sentence
fragment that follows it.
Non sequitur - literally "it does not follow"
Mark.
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Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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05 Feb 2004 10:52:31 PM |
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:32:15 -0500, "Son of man"
<bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:bJiUb.4473$Rl4.788@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again
roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
If the answer is 'no' would the implication be that the first human beings
were created?
If I melt a snowflake, do you suppose there would ever be another
exactly like it? If the answer is no, would the implication be that
the first snowflake was created?
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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05 Feb 2004 11:34:44 AM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Son of man:
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again
roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
If the answer is 'no' would the implication be that the first human beings
were created?
Something would roam the earth again, and it would probably be immune to
radiation, hydrocarbons, and AIDS. It would not necessarily be exactly
like humans. Ever heard of Chaos Theory?
Use history as a model. Imagine a dinosaur asking his friends the same
question.
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The wise man says it to the world.
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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| Title: Re: If all human beings on earth were killed |
05 Feb 2004 10:29:12 AM |
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:30:32 -0500 in alt.atheism
"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once again
roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
I think that if any cats survived, they would work their butts
off for a few million years trying to speed up evolution till
dogs or dolphins or apes evolved to thee point of being able to
pamper them.
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Martin Thomas
Official "Teddy Bear" Atheist
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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05 Feb 2004 09:50:36 PM |
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:30:32 -0500 the ET form known as Son of
man<bcozier@bellsouth.net> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once again
roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
No. Humans are a kind of primate ape and gone is gone. Something else
might evolve that was human like in its' abilities and might even
superficially look human. But it would not be human.
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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| Title: Re: If all human beings on earth were killed |
05 Feb 2004 03:19:35 PM |
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:30:32 -0500, "Son of man"
<bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once again
roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
Nope. Something else would evolve to take our place.
That might not be a bad thing either.
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| User: "Son of man" |
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05 Feb 2004 04:44:47 PM |
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"Brian Henderson" <BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:30:32 -0500, "Son of man"
<bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again
roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
Nope. Something else would evolve to take our place.
That might not be a bad thing either.
Why hasn't anything else of similar intelligence evolved yet besides humans?
Simply because humans exist?
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| User: "John Baker" |
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05 Feb 2004 08:37:53 PM |
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"Son of man" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Brian Henderson" <BrianL.Henderson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:30:32 -0500, "Son of man"
<bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once
again
roam the earth? Assuming the earth were eternal?
Nope. Something else would evolve to take our place.
That might not be a bad thing either.
Why hasn't anything else of similar intelligence evolved yet besides
humans?
Simply because humans exist?
There are other life forms of similar (though not equal) intelligence.
Gorillas, chimps and bonobos all rank very close to or above the lower
limits of human intelligence, and dolphins, elephants and parrots are also
veritable Einsteins of the animal world. All display a very advanced
reasoning ability in standard animal intelligence tests, although admittedly
not at the level of a normal human. But in any case, intelligence isn't a
requirement for success. The most successful multicellular life forms on the
planet in terms of both number of known species and number of individuals
are insects.
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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| Title: Re: If all human beings on earth were killed |
06 Feb 2004 12:11:11 PM |
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 17:44:47 -0500, "Son of man"
<bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Why hasn't anything else of similar intelligence evolved yet besides humans?
Simply because humans exist?
There are plenty of extremely intelligent animals on this planet.
They might not build houses and computers, but to assume that they
must is just anthropomorphizing them.
Humans also tend to shoot first and not ask questions. We've had a
huge negative impact on animal species worldwide, particularly the
largest and most intelligent.
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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| Title: Re: If all human beings on earth were killed |
05 Feb 2004 01:04:28 PM |
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Son of man wrote:
Do you think there will ever come a time when human beings would once again
roam the earth?
Please define what you mean by "human being".
Assuming the earth were eternal?
Why assume something that is almost certainly false?
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Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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