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Religions > Atheism |
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"quibbler" |
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18 Feb 2006 12:27:24 AM |
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If Jesus Died For Us ... Then Why Are There Cemetaries? |
I saw an oversized, moronic bumpersticker today that said, "Jesus died
for you". Of course it's a lie. There was no jesus and even if there
had been, he couldn't die for anyone else, especially those not even born
yet. The presuppositional stance of Christianity is flawed. Sin and
death are wrongly presumed to be fungible commodities which might be done
by one person and paid for by another like some sort of supernatural
swapmeet. If Jesus died for anything it was for the selfish gain of the
priestly scribes who invented the fictional character in the first place,
only to kill him off eventually in a bid for perpetual sympathy and the
establishment of a cult of guilt. I don't need your two-thousand year
old guilt trip called christ-insanity. Wrongdoing is not something that
washes away with magic water and one cannot accept blame for deeds which
one did not commit. I mean, honestly, what kind of god needs a patsy to
punish, in place of those who justly deserve it. I sure am glad that
Yahweh isn't a real father, because his idea of parenting seems to be to
spank the ***** out of billy for something that mikey did. Even if Mikey
is grateful that Billy, rather than himself, got his ***** beat and
worshipped billy for it, this would not change the fact that Mikey was
the one who deserve punishment and justice was not serve by punishing an
innocent person.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: If Jesus Died For Us ... Then Why Are There Cemetaries? |
18 Feb 2006 07:47:19 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:27:24 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
I saw an oversized, moronic bumpersticker today that said, "Jesus died
for you". Of course it's a lie.
Why?
There was no jesus and even if there
had been, he couldn't die for anyone else, especially those not even born
yet.
Why would anybody believe you?
The presuppositional stance of Christianity is flawed. Sin and
death are wrongly presumed to be fungible commodities which might be done
by one person and paid for by another like some sort of supernatural
swapmeet.
You have your "presuppositional" stance wrong.
If Jesus died for anything it was for the selfish gain of the
priestly scribes who invented the fictional character in the first place,
only to kill him off eventually in a bid for perpetual sympathy and the
establishment of a cult of guilt. I don't need your two-thousand year
old guilt trip called christ-insanity. Wrongdoing is not something that
washes away with magic water and one cannot accept blame for deeds which
one did not commit. I mean, honestly, what kind of god needs a patsy to
punish, in place of those who justly deserve it. I sure am glad that
Yahweh isn't a real father, because his idea of parenting seems to be to
spank the ***** out of billy for something that mikey did. Even if Mikey
is grateful that Billy, rather than himself, got his ***** beat and
worshipped billy for it, this would not change the fact that Mikey was
the one who deserve punishment and justice was not serve by punishing an
innocent person.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Panama Floyd" |
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| Title: AQOTM Nomination was-Re: If Jesus Died For Us ... Then Why Are There Cemetaries? |
18 Feb 2006 12:40:47 AM |
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quibbler wrote:
I saw an oversized, moronic bumpersticker today that said, "Jesus died
for you". Of course it's a lie. There was no jesus and even if there
had been, he couldn't die for anyone else, especially those not even born
yet. The presuppositional stance of Christianity is flawed. Sin and
death are wrongly presumed to be fungible commodities which might be done
by one person and paid for by another like some sort of supernatural
swapmeet. If Jesus died for anything it was for the selfish gain of the
priestly scribes who invented the fictional character in the first place,
only to kill him off eventually in a bid for perpetual sympathy and the
establishment of a cult of guilt. I don't need your two-thousand year
old guilt trip called christ-insanity. Wrongdoing is not something that
washes away with magic water and one cannot accept blame for deeds which
one did not commit. I mean, honestly, what kind of god needs a patsy to
punish, in place of those who justly deserve it.
nominated portion begins:
I sure am glad that
Yahweh isn't a real father, because his idea of parenting seems to be to
spank the ***** out of billy for something that mikey did.
nominated portion ends.
snip, but the rest of it was good too, Quib.
Short, but powerfully obvious. I'll probably steal it for conversations
IRL. Seconds?
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "Robert Schneider" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM Nomination was-Re: If Jesus Died For Us ... Then Why Are There Cemetaries? |
18 Feb 2006 01:36:55 AM |
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"Panama Floyd" <panamaflyd@aol.com> wrote in
news:1140244847.910400.315180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
quibbler wrote:
I saw an oversized, moronic bumpersticker today that said, "Jesus
died for you". Of course it's a lie. There was no jesus and even if
there had been, he couldn't die for anyone else, especially those not
even born yet. The presuppositional stance of Christianity is flawed.
Sin and death are wrongly presumed to be fungible commodities which
might be done by one person and paid for by another like some sort of
supernatural swapmeet. If Jesus died for anything it was for the
selfish gain of the priestly scribes who invented the fictional
character in the first place, only to kill him off eventually in a
bid for perpetual sympathy and the establishment of a cult of guilt.
I don't need your two-thousand year old guilt trip called
christ-insanity. Wrongdoing is not something that washes away with
magic water and one cannot accept blame for deeds which one did not
commit. I mean, honestly, what kind of god needs a patsy to punish,
in place of those who justly deserve it.
nominated portion begins:
I sure am glad that
Yahweh isn't a real father, because his idea of parenting seems to be
to spank the ***** out of billy for something that mikey did.
nominated portion ends.
snip, but the rest of it was good too, Quib.
Short, but powerfully obvious. I'll probably steal it for
conversations IRL. Seconds?
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
Sure. Seconded.
AA #2149
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM Nomination was-Re: If Jesus Died For Us ... Then Why Are There Cemetaries? |
20 Feb 2006 02:58:44 AM |
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In article <r8AJf.667$5M6.48@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Robert Schneider <notme@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Panama Floyd" <panamaflyd@aol.com> wrote in
news:1140244847.910400.315180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
quibbler wrote:
I saw an oversized, moronic bumpersticker today that said, "Jesus
died for you". Of course it's a lie. There was no jesus and even if
there had been, he couldn't die for anyone else, especially those not
even born yet. The presuppositional stance of Christianity is flawed.
Sin and death are wrongly presumed to be fungible commodities which
might be done by one person and paid for by another like some sort of
supernatural swapmeet. If Jesus died for anything it was for the
selfish gain of the priestly scribes who invented the fictional
character in the first place, only to kill him off eventually in a
bid for perpetual sympathy and the establishment of a cult of guilt.
I don't need your two-thousand year old guilt trip called
christ-insanity. Wrongdoing is not something that washes away with
magic water and one cannot accept blame for deeds which one did not
commit. I mean, honestly, what kind of god needs a patsy to punish,
in place of those who justly deserve it.
nominated portion begins:
I sure am glad that
Yahweh isn't a real father, because his idea of parenting seems to be
to spank the ***** out of billy for something that mikey did.
nominated portion ends.
snip, but the rest of it was good too, Quib.
Short, but powerfully obvious. I'll probably steal it for
conversations IRL. Seconds?
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
Sure. Seconded.
AA #2149
Recorded.
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