Religions > Atheism > If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a bad guy", what do you say?
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"Uncle Buck" |
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31 Oct 2005 06:16:25 PM |
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If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a bad guy", what do you say? |
I read from time to time about white supremacy movements and people who still
adore/worship/admire folks like Adolf Hitler. I don't know any personally and
have never met one, but I am a little curious just how one might answer a
comment like what's in the subject - someone defending Hitler as a champion of
white supremacy, or perhaps defending him in some other way. What material is
out there for responding to these people? What material is there that is most
effective for refuting allegations that either the holocaust never happened, or
that it "wasn't that bad"? I can read any number of web sites explaining what
happened, but I assume such historical revisionists would just say they are
lies. What material would be most effective for using against arguments such as
those that kind of people are likely to use?
Just curious. Thanks as always for your time.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a bad guy", what do you say? |
31 Oct 2005 06:45:11 PM |
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"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote
I read from time to time about white supremacy movements and
people who still adore/worship/admire folks like Adolf Hitler.
I don't know any personally and have never met one, but I am
a little curious just how one might answer a comment like what's
in the subject - someone defending Hitler as a champion of
white supremacy, or perhaps defending him in some other way.
Hmmm...
What material is out there for responding to these people? What
material is there that is most effective for refuting allegations that
either the holocaust never happened, or that it "wasn't that bad"?
Ken McVey was so good at it that (if memory serves) he received
a grant for his efforts. And, of course, a google groups search would
reveal that he's so good at countering the NAZIs that they often run
smear campaigns against him -- posting usenet articles accusing him
of everything from rape to child molesting:
http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/
Whatever the case, he's a man that's EXTREMELY experienced
in dealing with "Historical Revisionists," and in particular the
"historical revisionists" one is most likely to encounter on the
internet.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a bad guy", what do you say? |
31 Oct 2005 09:56:53 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote
I read from time to time about white supremacy movements and
people who still adore/worship/admire folks like Adolf Hitler.
I don't know any personally and have never met one, but I am
a little curious just how one might answer a comment like what's
in the subject - someone defending Hitler as a champion of
white supremacy, or perhaps defending him in some other way.
Hmmm...
What material is out there for responding to these people? What
material is there that is most effective for refuting allegations
that either the holocaust never happened, or that it "wasn't that
bad"?
Ken McVey was so good at it that (if memory serves) he received
a grant for his efforts. And, of course, a google groups search
would reveal that he's so good at countering the NAZIs that they
often run smear campaigns against him -- posting usenet articles
accusing him of everything from rape to child molesting:
http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/
Whatever the case, he's a man that's EXTREMELY experienced
in dealing with "Historical Revisionists," and in particular the
"historical revisionists" one is most likely to encounter on the
internet.
There were a number of people that have expertise
in debunking Holocaust denial monkeys, a number
of them testified in the David Irving trial.
It would be nice to have a bibliography and a list of
better websites about this.
--
The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a bad guy", what do you say? |
03 Nov 2005 01:42:08 PM |
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In article <oncdm1dnnbhhlhqet0f73i9bom67toeb7u@4ax.com>, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
I read from time to time about white supremacy movements and people who still
adore/worship/admire folks like Adolf Hitler. I don't know any personally and
have never met one, but I am a little curious just how one might answer a
comment like what's in the subject - someone defending Hitler as a champion of
white supremacy, or perhaps defending him in some other way. What material is
out there for responding to these people? What material is there that is most
effective for refuting allegations that either the holocaust never happened,
or
that it "wasn't that bad"? I can read any number of web sites explaining what
happened, but I assume such historical revisionists would just say they are
lies. What material would be most effective for using against arguments such
as
those that kind of people are likely to use?
Just curious. Thanks as always for your time.
All contemporary reports indicate that Adolf Hitler was kind to
children and animals and gallant with women. He knew which fork to use,
patronized the arts, and bathed regularly. He was, additionally, an
accomplished conversationalist with considerable wit and personal
charm. He was a vegetarian in an age when it was certainly not popular,
loved chocolate, dancing, fine cars, nature and French wine. For all we
know he also liked sunsets and walks in the rain. (The Pina Colada,
alas, hadn't been invented yet.)
So, yeah, I suppose a case could be made that Hitler was your basic
all-around Aryan nice guy whe developed an unfortunate bad rep because
of one or two unlikable qualities.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Piranha tank missionaries" |
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| Title: Re: If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a bad guy", what do you say? |
31 Oct 2005 06:26:39 PM |
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It started with a If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was
"such a bad guy", what do you say?.
Who (other than Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com>) would have
guessed it would end like:
What material is
out there for responding to these people?
AK45s, hand grenades, maybe even the odd second hand tank.
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Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a bad guy", what do you say? |
03 Nov 2005 12:59:45 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:16:25 -0500, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
I read from time to time about white supremacy movements and people who still
adore/worship/admire folks like Adolf Hitler. I don't know any personally and
have never met one, but I am a little curious just how one might answer a
comment like what's in the subject - someone defending Hitler as a champion of
white supremacy, or perhaps defending him in some other way. What material is
out there for responding to these people? What material is there that is most
effective for refuting allegations that either the holocaust never happened, or
that it "wasn't that bad"? I can read any number of web sites explaining what
happened, but I assume such historical revisionists would just say they are
lies. What material would be most effective for using against arguments such as
those that kind of people are likely to use?
Doesn't matter, reason doesn't enter their universe.
Just curious. Thanks as always for your time.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "none toor\@none" |
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| Title: Re: If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a badguy", what do you say? |
31 Oct 2005 09:41:59 PM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
I read from time to time about white supremacy movements and people who still
adore/worship/admire folks like Adolf Hitler. I don't know any personally and
have never met one, but I am a little curious just how one might answer a
comment like what's in the subject - someone defending Hitler as a champion of
white supremacy, or perhaps defending him in some other way. What material is
out there for responding to these people? What material is there that is most
effective for refuting allegations that either the holocaust never happened, or
that it "wasn't that bad"? I can read any number of web sites explaining what
happened, but I assume such historical revisionists would just say they are
lies. What material would be most effective for using against arguments such as
those that kind of people are likely to use?
Just curious. Thanks as always for your time.
History books are written by the victors.
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| User: "L.Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a bad guy", what do you say? |
03 Nov 2005 04:57:40 PM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
I read from time to time about white supremacy movements and people who still
adore/worship/admire folks like Adolf Hitler. I don't know any personally and
have never met one, but I am a little curious just how one might answer a
comment like what's in the subject - someone defending Hitler as a champion of
white supremacy, or perhaps defending him in some other way. What material is
out there for responding to these people? What material is there that is most
effective for refuting allegations that either the holocaust never happened, or
that it "wasn't that bad"? I can read any number of web sites explaining what
happened, but I assume such historical revisionists would just say they are
lies. What material would be most effective for using against arguments such as
those that kind of people are likely to use?
Just curious. Thanks as always for your time.
If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a bad guy", what
do you say?
How about something like: 'Not any worse than you I suppose."
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| User: "old guy? Heck!" |
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| Title: Re: If someone tells you they don't think Hitler was "such a bad guy", what do you say? |
03 Nov 2005 01:57:16 PM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
I read from time to time about white supremacy movements and people who still
adore/worship/admire folks like Adolf Hitler. I don't know any personally and
have never met one, but I am a little curious just how one might answer a
comment like what's in the subject - someone defending Hitler as a champion of
white supremacy, or perhaps defending him in some other way. What material is
out there for responding to these people? What material is there that is most
effective for refuting allegations that either the holocaust never happened, or
that it "wasn't that bad"? I can read any number of web sites explaining what
happened, but I assume such historical revisionists would just say they are
lies. What material would be most effective for using against arguments such as
those that kind of people are likely to use?
Just curious. Thanks as always for your time.
Refer them to the poster known as "david ford." There is a reasonable
chance he will bore them to death, thus solving the problem.
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