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"Lionel" |
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23 Mar 2005 08:11:53 PM |
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If Terry Schiavo was a fetus, would you have her aborted? |
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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24 Mar 2005 07:33:38 AM |
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Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
We?
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28 Mar 2005 02:11:50 PM |
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On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
jotted down:
If Terry schiavo was a duck would you have her for supper?
In Christ Jesus,
Christian
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| User: "Attila" |
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28 Mar 2005 02:48:38 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:11:50 -0700, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<b7pg415hq201vnma54aii3v3gp4sjcf6k8@4ax.com> wrote:
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
jotted down:
If Terry schiavo was a duck would you have her for supper?
In Christ Jesus,
Christian
Silly comment, but consider the source.
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28 Mar 2005 04:50:30 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:48:38 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> jotted
down:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:11:50 -0700, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<b7pg415hq201vnma54aii3v3gp4sjcf6k8@4ax.com> wrote:
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
jotted down:
If Terry schiavo was a duck would you have her for supper?
In Christ Jesus,
Christian
Silly comment, but consider the source.
Which silly comment? The one about her being a fetus? Or the one
about her being a duck?
BOTH are silly
in Christ Jesus,
Christian
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| User: "Attila" |
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28 Mar 2005 08:12:50 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:50:30 -0700, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<gg2h419bj2he42s08oipvmhglqesu0qc0s@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:48:38 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> jotted
down:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:11:50 -0700, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<b7pg415hq201vnma54aii3v3gp4sjcf6k8@4ax.com> wrote:
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
jotted down:
If Terry schiavo was a duck would you have her for supper?
In Christ Jesus,
Christian
Silly comment, but consider the source.
Which silly comment? The one about her being a fetus? Or the one
about her being a duck?
BOTH are silly
in Christ Jesus,
Christian
Your comment, but the subject is silly too.
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24 Mar 2005 03:39:13 PM |
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On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: If Terry Schiavo was a fetus, would you have her aborted? |
24 Mar 2005 06:29:03 PM |
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<garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
2) Just because a religious dogma is ancient, doesn't mean it's in
error or irrelevant. It seems to me that the Law of Gravity is pretty
old yet no one is doubting its truth or usefulness.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and
those who don't.
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| User: "" |
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25 Mar 2005 10:10:46 PM |
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
<garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
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| User: "Sam" |
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25 Mar 2005 10:28:22 PM |
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
< > wrote in message
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On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
--
Sam
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28 Mar 2005 09:04:12 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:22 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com>
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but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
What exactly are your qualifications to make such a diagnosis? Have
you examined the patient? If not, then you are totally clueless about
what is going on inside her skull. And you don't need a fully
functional brain to feel pain.
If starvation is so painless, let's use it in Iraqui prisons or Gitmo.
We could save money by executing prisoners by starvation.
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
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| User: "Nivlem" |
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28 Mar 2005 01:50:12 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:04:12 GMT,
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:22 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com>
wrote:
but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
What exactly are your qualifications to make such a diagnosis? Have
you examined the patient? If not, then you are totally clueless about
what is going on inside her skull. And you don't need a fully
functional brain to feel pain.
Have you examined the patient? No? Then you'll just have to
take the word of those who have. And those are NOT the
people insisting she isn't PVS. Hell, I suppose you could
say that you feel pain when under anaesthesia, then. The
nerve signal is still being created. Being aware of it is a
whole other thing. There's no credible evidence that Terri
Schiavo has anything left with which to be aware.
If starvation is so painless, let's use it in Iraqui prisons or Gitmo.
We could save money by executing prisoners by starvation.
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| User: "" |
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29 Mar 2005 01:31:25 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:50:12 -0800, Nivlem <mlml@svn.net> wrote:
Have you examined the patient? No? Then you'll just have to
take the word of those who have. And those are NOT the
people insisting she isn't PVS. Hell, I suppose you could
say that you feel pain when under anaesthesia, then. The
nerve signal is still being created. Being aware of it is a
whole other thing. There's no credible evidence that Terri
Schiavo has anything left with which to be aware.
Some of those who have examined her have said she is in pain and
others have said she is not. If there is any doubt - which there
obviously is - then we need to err on the side of compassion. If
Schaivo is not feeling anything, why the rush to kill her?
Gary J Sibio
garysibio@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who don't.
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| User: "Rick" |
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29 Mar 2005 01:39:36 PM |
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<garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:e05j41pla2nc7n1e2bpkamume65jaeto5v@4ax.com...
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:50:12 -0800, Nivlem <mlml@svn.net> wrote:
Have you examined the patient? No? Then you'll just have to
take the word of those who have. And those are NOT the
people insisting she isn't PVS. Hell, I suppose you could
say that you feel pain when under anaesthesia, then. The
nerve signal is still being created. Being aware of it is a
whole other thing. There's no credible evidence that Terri
Schiavo has anything left with which to be aware.
Some of those who have examined her have said she is in pain and
others have said she is not. If there is any doubt - which there
obviously is - then we need to err on the side of compassion. If
Schaivo is not feeling anything, why the rush to kill her?
First of all, 15 years of a living death does not constitute a "rush".
Second, Michael Schiavo has requested an autopsy after Terri dies.
I think he did this to silence the mountain of misinformation which
has been disseminated by the pro-suffering side of this debate.
Terri's cerebral cortex is gone. Nothing is there except spinal fluid.
She died in February 1990.
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| User: "CB" |
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28 Mar 2005 10:38:36 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:04:12 GMT, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:22 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com>
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but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
What exactly are your qualifications to make such a diagnosis? Have
you examined the patient? If not, then you are totally clueless about
what is going on inside her skull. And you don't need a fully
functional brain to feel pain.
If starvation is so painless, let's use it in Iraqui prisons or Gitmo.
We could save money by executing prisoners by starvation.
I think you might have something there.
It is amazing that certain soldiers can go to prison for making terror
suspects parade around naked but it would be OK to starve them to death.
And just think of all those people iin the world that are starving.
Pull out all the missionaries and those that are trying to feed them. In a
couple weeks they will all fall into a peacful sleep and we won't have to
worry about them anymore. In fact, according to greer and felos, they will
probably be thankful.
Gary J Sibio
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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| User: "CB" |
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26 Mar 2005 05:34:52 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:22 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com> wrote:
garysibio@earthlink.net wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
<garysibio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
Her brain is not completely gone.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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| User: "Don - - - - - ---" |
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26 Mar 2005 11:30:27 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:34:52 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:22 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com> wrote:
but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
Her brain is not completely gone.
CB, you never went to high school, did ya??
"You are so slick, you swim and your clothes don't even get wet."
---Old Spanish saying...
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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28 Mar 2005 12:19:05 AM |
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Don wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:34:52 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:22 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com> wrote:
but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
Her brain is not completely gone.
CB, you never went to high school, did ya??
From what I can gather, he's Home Skooled, certainly not very bright
..... or a very clever Loki
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "CB" |
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27 Mar 2005 08:20:07 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 05:30:27 GMT, Don <- - - - - --- somebody@worldwide.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:34:52 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:22 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com> wrote:
but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
Her brain is not completely gone.
CB, you never went to high school, did ya??
Have you ever been brain dead?
Did you recover?
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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27 Mar 2005 08:09:54 PM |
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in article v7gd41t9hpbkum7nmq06b5eaqmacrr904e@4ax.com, CB at
country2000@hotmail.com wrote on 3/27/05 9:20 AM:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 05:30:27 GMT, Don <- - - - - --- somebody@worldwide.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:34:52 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:22 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com> wrote:
but without a brain to process them there is no cognition, only
involuntary reflex at the most
Her brain is not completely gone.
CB, you never went to high school, did ya??
Have you ever been brain dead?
Did you recover?
You seem to function pretty well....
Paul
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26 Mar 2005 05:57:58 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<uvm9411mu4g2ctnrnvkpoad8o95bq0q4t5@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
The existence of a nervous system is not in and of itself proof pain
can be felt.
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| User: "rafe bustin" |
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26 Mar 2005 07:15:32 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain.
Sounds like most Republicans I know of.
rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
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| User: "CB" |
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26 Mar 2005 09:32:05 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:15:32 -0500, rafe bustin <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain.
Sounds like most Republicans I know of.
And you sound just like a few morons I know.
BTW, you lost the election.
Get over it.
rafe b.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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| User: "CB" |
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26 Mar 2005 09:31:15 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<uvm9411mu4g2ctnrnvkpoad8o95bq0q4t5@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
So just starve them tom death, right?
The existence of a nervous system is not in and of itself proof pain
can be felt.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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27 Mar 2005 05:32:21 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:31:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<l7ac415m6t7c1s0f07f0tp98hmh9qn25lt@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<uvm9411mu4g2ctnrnvkpoad8o95bq0q4t5@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
So just starve them tom death, right?
What part of "can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise
normal" is beyond your understanding? They are not on any kind of
life support and can articulate their wishes. And lead a mostly
normal life.
The existence of a nervous system is not in and of itself proof pain
can be felt.
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27 Mar 2005 08:21:12 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:32:21 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:31:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<l7ac415m6t7c1s0f07f0tp98hmh9qn25lt@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<uvm9411mu4g2ctnrnvkpoad8o95bq0q4t5@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
So just starve them tom death, right?
What part of "can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise
normal" is beyond your understanding? They are not on any kind of
life support and can articulate their wishes. And lead a mostly
normal life.
A lot of people cannot walk around anfd function in society.
I guess you think they all should be murdered.
The existence of a nervous system is not in and of itself proof pain
can be felt.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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27 Mar 2005 11:12:38 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:21:12 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<39gd4198rs47vqmnlkfrncdqemaejbr538@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:32:21 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:31:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
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<l7ac415m6t7c1s0f07f0tp98hmh9qn25lt@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<uvm9411mu4g2ctnrnvkpoad8o95bq0q4t5@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
< > wrote in message
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On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
So just starve them tom death, right?
What part of "can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise
normal" is beyond your understanding? They are not on any kind of
life support and can articulate their wishes. And lead a mostly
normal life.
A lot of people cannot walk around anfd function in society.
I guess you think they all should be murdered.
Perhaps you should at least try to stay on the subject, which is pain
and not walking around and functioning. Or is that too much of an
effort for you?
BTW, no legal act can be murder.
The existence of a nervous system is not in and of itself proof pain
can be felt.
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| User: "CB" |
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27 Mar 2005 02:19:56 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:12:38 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:21:12 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<39gd4198rs47vqmnlkfrncdqemaejbr538@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:32:21 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:31:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<l7ac415m6t7c1s0f07f0tp98hmh9qn25lt@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<uvm9411mu4g2ctnrnvkpoad8o95bq0q4t5@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
So just starve them tom death, right?
What part of "can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise
normal" is beyond your understanding? They are not on any kind of
life support and can articulate their wishes. And lead a mostly
normal life.
A lot of people cannot walk around anfd function in society.
I guess you think they all should be murdered.
Perhaps you should at least try to stay on the subject, which is pain
and not walking around and functioning. Or is that too much of an
effort for you?
BTW, no legal act can be murder.
It is legalized homicide.
The existence of a nervous system is not in and of itself proof pain
can be felt.
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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28 Mar 2005 12:31:06 AM |
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CB wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
So just starve them tom death, right?
What part of "can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise
normal" is beyond your understanding? They are not on any kind of
life support and can articulate their wishes. And lead a mostly
normal life.
A lot of people cannot walk around anfd function in society.
I guess you think they all should be murdered.
Perhaps you should at least try to stay on the subject, which is pain
and not walking around and functioning. Or is that too much of an
effort for you?
BTW, no legal act can be murder.
It is legalized homicide.
It's exactly what George Dubya signed into law while Governor of Texas,
and Tom DeLay allowed to happen to his father .... the sanctimonious
Hypocrites ....
but you knew that didn't you CB ? you're SOOO smart ......
Besides, she's already dead, moron ...... only the fleshy bits have been
preserved .....
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: If Terry Schiavo was a fetus, would you have her aborted? |
27 Mar 2005 03:22:14 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:19:56 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<ia5e41p4q2asbpedkp551td228tb841onk@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:12:38 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:21:12 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<39gd4198rs47vqmnlkfrncdqemaejbr538@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:32:21 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:31:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<l7ac415m6t7c1s0f07f0tp98hmh9qn25lt@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<uvm9411mu4g2ctnrnvkpoad8o95bq0q4t5@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
So just starve them tom death, right?
What part of "can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise
normal" is beyond your understanding? They are not on any kind of
life support and can articulate their wishes. And lead a mostly
normal life.
A lot of people cannot walk around anfd function in society.
I guess you think they all should be murdered.
Perhaps you should at least try to stay on the subject, which is pain
and not walking around and functioning. Or is that too much of an
effort for you?
BTW, no legal act can be murder.
It is legalized homicide.
But still not murder.
The existence of a nervous system is not in and of itself proof pain
can be felt.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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27 Mar 2005 08:10:31 PM |
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in article 39gd4198rs47vqmnlkfrncdqemaejbr538@4ax.com, CB at
country2000@hotmail.com wrote on 3/27/05 9:21 AM:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:32:21 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:31:15 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<l7ac415m6t7c1s0f07f0tp98hmh9qn25lt@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:58 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:10:46 GMT, in
alt.abortion with message-id
<uvm9411mu4g2ctnrnvkpoad8o95bq0q4t5@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:29:03 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:vbc641lsit36vvmd8vd2vlvjai892e3d64@4ax.com...
On 23 Mar 2005 18:11:53 -0800, (Lionel)
wrote:
Why do we let people be born into lives of pain merely for the sake of
ancient religious dogma?
1) Her pain is due to the fact that she is being starved to death.
No one is home to experience the pain. There is only a non-aware
body with a live nervous system.
If the nervous system is active, then she can feel pain. Pain
receptors are part of the nervous system.
It is a provable fact that there is a medical condition where people
can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise normal yet
cannot feel any pain. This, of course, is very dangerous for the
individual involved.
So just starve them tom death, right?
What part of "can walk around, function in society, and are otherwise
normal" is beyond your understanding? They are not on any kind of
life support and can articulate their wishes. And lead a mostly
normal life.
A lot of people cannot walk around anfd function in society.
And all you can do is walk around....
Paul
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