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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date: 30 Sep 2005 07:27:58 PM
Object: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence
Oh, well we can always convert that Chapel to a brothel- the
prostitutes would at least be older than the priests' victims.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050930/tc_nm/italy_advert_jesus_dc
"There's no religion any more," read a slogan for IKEA in an advert to
inform Italians, whose Church attendance is steadily falling, that its
furniture stores were open on a Sunday.
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User: "Raleigh"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 02 Oct 2005 09:02:10 PM
Interesting report.
All it means, though is that I won't buy anything else from IKEA, ever
again.
Raleigh
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User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 12:32:39 AM
"Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1128301491.711857.245690@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Interesting report.

All it means, though is that I won't buy anything else from IKEA, ever
again.

Raleigh

That's okay. I plan to buy two bookcases from them.
I'll buy one in your 'honor'.
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User: "Robi"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 05:25:06 AM
Michelle Malkin wrote:

"Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1128301491.711857.245690@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Interesting report.

All it means, though is that I won't buy anything else from IKEA, ever
again.

Raleigh

That's okay. I plan to buy two bookcases from them.
I'll buy one in your 'honor'.

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BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
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They were bothered about: "There's no religion any more," read a slogan
for IKEA in an advert to inform Italians, whose Church attendance is
steadily falling, that its furniture stores were open on a Sunday.?
That's it? seems a tad over sensitive to me.
I think all the major retailers should make a point of upsetting
Christians at least once a month. It would amuse me to see where they'd
buy their goods then.
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User: "Raleigh"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 05:37:46 AM
Robi wrote:

I think all the major retailers should >make a point of upsetting
Christians at least once a month. It >would amuse me to see where they'd
buy their goods then

You may have a point. I never heard of an atheist who refused
money, merely because it had "in God we trust" written on it. Or do
atheists not have convictions as Christians do?
Raleigh
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User: ""

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 02:14:47 PM
On 3-Oct-2005, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote:

Robi wrote:

I think all the major retailers should >make a point of upsetting
Christians at least once a month. It >would amuse me to see where they'd
buy their goods then


You may have a point. I never heard of an atheist who refused
money, merely because it had "in God we trust" written on it. Or do
atheists not have convictions as Christians do?

Atheists understand that they are fornicated (to put it politely) about
this.
If they didn'; submit to the indignity, they would starve, for one thing.
I'm a *theist* who doesn't want it on the money!!
Susan
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User: "Raleigh"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 04 Oct 2005 06:25:38 AM
Atheists understand that they are fornicated (to put it politely) about
this.
If they didn'; submit to the indignity, they would starve, for one
thing.
I'm a *theist* who doesn't want it on the money!!
Susan
Yep. Martin Luther said, "Here I stand, I can do naught else."
The atheist says, "Oh, darn--well just give me the money."
Raleigh
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User: "Liz"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 06:59:15 PM
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:14:47 GMT,
in news message
<Hqf0f.29$yN6.18@trnddc04> wrote:


On 3-Oct-2005, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote:

Robi wrote:

I think all the major retailers should >make a point of upsetting
Christians at least once a month. It >would amuse me to see where they'd
buy their goods then


You may have a point. I never heard of an atheist who refused
money, merely because it had "in God we trust" written on it. Or do
atheists not have convictions as Christians do?


Atheists understand that they are fornicated (to put it politely) about
this.
If they didn'; submit to the indignity, they would starve, for one thing.
I'm a *theist* who doesn't want it on the money!!

Most theists would use money without the motto if it were taken off.
I have come to this conclusion from the fact that very few personal
checks, on which theists can proclaim their religion affiliation
whenever and however they want, have a religious theme. I've seen a
couple checks with "God® Bless America", a occasional cross or a fish,
and some of those sappy cherubs on checks, but not one "In God® We
Trust" printed on a personal check. Now I'm not saying that there
aren't any, but the vast majority, even though Christians claim they
are the majority in the US, of personal checks are quite secular.
I would think that if this phrase was so dear to the heart of American
Christians that they would print it on every one of their monetary
instruments, but they, as a whole, do not. I am forced to believe
that Christians only want it on money because it is issued by the
government, and government endorsement of religion is more important
to them than a private declaration of belief.
I find the same apathy to saying the Pledge of Allegiance in private.
Whenever I ask someone, who fully supports the "under God®" phrase in
the Pledge as a public ceremony, when was the last time they recited
the Pledge in the privacy of their own home or jointly with their
family and friends, I get only silence.
Strange.
Liz #658 BAAWA
They all agree on what their god wants. Each theist will tell you
that what the only true god wants, and what he, himself, wants, are
exactly the same. -- Al Klein
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User: "• Ninure Saunders"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 04 Oct 2005 08:45:13 AM
In article <ieg3k11d5l825e32a6tc2o3ssumjn7aest@4ax.com>, Liz
<ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
-On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:14:47 GMT,
in news message
-<Hqf0f.29$yN6.18@trnddc04> wrote:
-
->
->On 3-Oct-2005, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote:
->
->> Robi wrote:
->>
->> >I think all the major retailers should >make a point of upsetting
->> >Christians at least once a month. It >would amuse me to see where they'd
->> >buy their goods then
->>
->> You may have a point. I never heard of an atheist who refused
->> money, merely because it had "in God we trust" written on it. Or do
->> atheists not have convictions as Christians do?
->
->Atheists understand that they are fornicated (to put it politely) about
->this.
->If they didn'; submit to the indignity, they would starve, for one thing.
->I'm a *theist* who doesn't want it on the money!!
-
-Most theists would use money without the motto if it were taken off.
-I have come to this conclusion from the fact that very few personal
-checks, on which theists can proclaim their religion affiliation
-whenever and however they want, have a religious theme. I've seen a
-couple checks with "God® Bless America", a occasional cross or a fish,
-and some of those sappy cherubs on checks, but not one "In God® We
-Trust" printed on a personal check. Now I'm not saying that there
-aren't any, but the vast majority, even though Christians claim they
-are the majority in the US, of personal checks are quite secular.
-
-I would think that if this phrase was so dear to the heart of American
-Christians that they would print it on every one of their monetary
-instruments, but they, as a whole, do not. I am forced to believe
-that Christians only want it on money because it is issued by the
-government, and government endorsement of religion is more important
-to them than a private declaration of belief.
-
-I find the same apathy to saying the Pledge of Allegiance in private.
-Whenever I ask someone, who fully supports the "under God®" phrase in
-the Pledge as a public ceremony, when was the last time they recited
-the Pledge in the privacy of their own home or jointly with their
-family and friends, I get only silence.
-
-Strange.
-
-Liz #658 BAAWA
-
-They all agree on what their god wants. Each theist will tell you
-that what the only true god wants, and what he, himself, wants, are
-exactly the same. -- Al Klein
That was excellent....
I hope you don't mind if I add this to my "Great answers" file, and
repost it as needed.
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User: "Liz"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 04 Oct 2005 10:18:38 AM
=B7 Ninure Saunders wrote:
[----]

That was excellent....

Thank you.


I hope you don't mind if I add this to my "Great answers" file, and
repost it as needed.

Not at all. You have my permission to post as needed.
Liz #658
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User: "Raleigh"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 04 Oct 2005 09:11:32 PM
Ninue Saunders wrote:
Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
So what? Jesus is Ted Kennedy's shepherd, and He knows that Ted killed
Mary Jo Kopechne. The ominiscience of Jesus enables him to know
everything, both good and bad. You'll have to find something else, if
you want to "prove" that being o.k. is a good thing. It may be, but the
above statement certainly does nothing to support it.
Raleigh
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User: ""

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 06 Oct 2005 01:03:45 AM
On 4-Oct-2005, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote:

Ninue Saunders wrote:

Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay

So what? Jesus is Ted Kennedy's shepherd, and He knows that Ted killed
Mary Jo Kopechne. The ominiscience of Jesus enables him to know
everything, both good and bad.

Which means that, if he existed in the form you think he does, then he knows
you;re total scum.
Susan
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User: "Raleigh"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 06 Oct 2005 06:38:49 AM
On 4-Oct-2005, "Raleigh" <graleigh...@cs.com> wrote:

Ninue Saunders wrote:
Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
So what? Jesus is Ted Kennedy's shepherd, and He knows that Ted killed
Mary Jo Kopechne. The ominiscience of Jesus enables him to know
everything, both good and bad.

Which means that, if he existed in the form you think he does, then he
knows
you;re total scum.
Susan
Works for me just as well as gays.
I should go in the bumper sticker apologetics business.
The Lord's my Shepherd, and he knows I'm gay.
The Lord's my Shepherd, and he knows I drive drunk with my mistress in
the car.
The Lord's my Shepherd, and he knows I like to insult people I think
are dumber
than I am.
The Lord's my Shepherd, and he knows I'm a mass murderer.
The Lord's my Shepherd, and he knows I'm an abortionist.
The Lord's my Shepherd, and he knows I'm a pedophile.
The Lord's my Shepherd, and he knows I abuse my children.
I had trouble with the last one--The Lord's my Shepherd, and he knows
I'm an atheist.
The message of the Good News is that all human beings are scum,
but God loves them anyway. However, loving someone does not
automatically imply that one gives blanket approval to everything they
do.
Raleigh
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User: "Raleigh"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 04 Oct 2005 06:32:00 AM
Liz wrote:
I find the same apathy to saying the Pledge of Allegiance in private.
Whenever I ask someone, who fully supports the "under God=AE" phrase in
the Pledge as a public ceremony, when was the last time they recited
the Pledge in the privacy of their own home or jointly with their
family and friends, I get only silence.
Strange.
It's the same for atheists. They apparently "know" that there is no
god the same way that a Prohibitionist "knows" that alcohol should not
be served. Just as the prohibitionist is not content merely to keep
alcohol out of his own home, but wants the government to ban it. The
prohibitionist would be satisfied if citizens could legally consume
only liguor they produced themselves at home; the atheist wants
religion turned into the same kind of private (very private) affair.
Raleigh
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User: ""

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 06 Oct 2005 01:02:59 AM
On 4-Oct-2005, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote:

Liz wrote:

I find the same apathy to saying the Pledge of Allegiance in private.
Whenever I ask someone, who fully supports the "under God®" phrase in
the Pledge as a public ceremony, when was the last time they recited
the Pledge in the privacy of their own home or jointly with their
family and friends, I get only silence.
Strange.


It's the same for atheists.

Really?
Atheists only say the pledge in public, too?
I suppose if they feel they are *forced* to - why on eatrth would they
say it privately when it's so offensive to them the way it is now?
They apparently "know" that there is no

god the same way that a Prohibitionist "knows" that alcohol should not
be served.

Huhwhat?
Just as the prohibitionist is not content merely to keep

alcohol out of his own home, but wants the government to ban it.

Oh, I see why you went off on a weird little strawman tangent.
[snip rest of crap]
Susan
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User: "Liz"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 04 Oct 2005 07:00:22 AM
On 4 Oct 2005 04:32:00 -0700, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> in news
message <1128425520.764182.326740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:

Liz wrote:

I find the same apathy to saying the Pledge of Allegiance in private.
Whenever I ask someone, who fully supports the "under God®" phrase in
the Pledge as a public ceremony, when was the last time they recited
the Pledge in the privacy of their own home or jointly with their
family and friends, I get only silence.
Strange.


It's the same for atheists. They apparently "know" that there is no
god the same way that a Prohibitionist "knows" that alcohol should not
be served. Just as the prohibitionist is not content merely to keep
alcohol out of his own home, but wants the government to ban it.

No, the lack of government endorsement of religion would suffice. I
know of no atheist who advocates the ban of religion. In fact, most
atheists would fight for your freedom to believe in any deity of your
choice as long you do not insist that the government support your
belief with religious mottos and laws. Most atheists fervently
approve of freedom of religion and conscience because without it we
would probably still be roasting over open fires for heresy. Or maybe
we would merely be branded or have holes pierced in our tongues for
blasphemy as they did to Quakers and others who weren't the "right
kind" in Massachusetts colony.

The
prohibitionist would be satisfied if citizens could legally consume
only liguor they produced themselves at home; the atheist wants
religion turned into the same kind of private (very private) affair.

You can dance in the streets naked for all I care if that is what your
religion tells you to do (as long as you have a parade permit, of
course). It is when you expect the government to sponsor your dancing
naked in the streets with taxpayer's money, printing "dance in the
streets naked" on currency, and requiring an oath to contain words the
words "one nation, dancing in the streets naked" that I draw the line.
It is government endorsement, not your religious beliefs. Always has
been despite the Christian extremist's tendency to cry persecution.
As I mentioned in the part of my post you snipped, very few Christians
actually participate in those activities that they insist that the
rest of us must accept.
When was the last time you, personally, said the Pledge around the
dinner table at home? Do you have "In God® We Trust" imprinted on
your personal checks? If not, why not?
Liz #658 BAAWA
Religion may in most of its forms be defined as the
belief that the gods are on the side of the government.
-- Bertrand Russell
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 04 Oct 2005 06:50:21 AM
On 4 Oct 2005 04:32:00 -0700, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote:

Liz wrote:

I find the same apathy to saying the Pledge of Allegiance in private.
Whenever I ask someone, who fully supports the "under God®" phrase in
the Pledge as a public ceremony, when was the last time they recited
the Pledge in the privacy of their own home or jointly with their
family and friends, I get only silence.
Strange.


It's the same for atheists. They apparently "know" that there is no
god the same way that a Prohibitionist "knows" that alcohol should not
be served. Just as the prohibitionist is not content merely to keep
alcohol out of his own home, but wants the government to ban it. The
prohibitionist would be satisfied if citizens could legally consume
only liguor they produced themselves at home; the atheist wants
religion turned into the same kind of private (very private) affair.

Why do you about atheists, to our faces?
Is it really so hard to grasp that in the real world there are
hundreds of different religions? And that yours is just one of them?
That the world does not revolve around it as you arrogantly imagine?
Or that nobody would give a flying ***** about it if you weren't so
in-your-face? Or if you didn't lie about those outside it?

Raleigh

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User: "Liz"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 06:31:44 AM
On 3 Oct 2005 03:37:46 -0700, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> in news
message <1128335866.353178.259150@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> wrote:

Robi wrote:

I think all the major retailers should >make a point of upsetting
Christians at least once a month. It >would amuse me to see where they'd
buy their goods then


You may have a point. I never heard of an atheist who refused
money, merely because it had "in God we trust" written on it. Or do
atheists not have convictions as Christians do?

Certainly atheists have convictions, but I have none about imaginary
beings. The US could print "in leprechauns we trust" on the money and
I would consider it equally as stupid and risible. However, the money
would spend the same.
You don't seem to realize that while Christians *must believe in Jesus
in order to get their "reward" and avoid an eternity in Hell®, there
is nothing in atheism to believe; there is nothing in atheism to
betray; there is no one to appease.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Religion may in most of its forms be defined as the
belief that the gods are on the side of the government.
-- Bertrand Russell
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User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 05:55:30 PM
In that is the same in many different religions, that ye always leave
out of your "equations" no doubt due to your prejudices and bigotry.
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:sg42k1h8dl858vnrtqdpudub82isdkeiqd@4ax.com...
:
: You don't seem to realize that while Christians *must believe in Jesus
: in order to get their "reward" and avoid an eternity in Hell®, there
: is nothing in atheism to believe; there is nothing in atheism to
: betray; there is no one to appease.
:
:
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User: "Liz"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 06:45:09 PM
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:55:30 -0400, "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> in news message
<fDi0f.141$tV1.23@bignews1.bellsouth.net> wrote:

In that is the same in many different religions, that ye always leave
out of your "equations" no doubt due to your prejudices and bigotry.

Since I was replying to a comment specifically about Christians, which
you conveniently snipped, in a thread titled about Christians, my
comment about Christians was on topic and not due to any prejudices.
I didn't offer any equations. You can usually recognize equations by
the use of an =.
I disagree that many different religions *must believe in Jesus in
order do get their "reward" and avoid and eternity in Hell®. Would
you please present your case naming the other religions that have
specific dogma, or are you just sniping?


"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:sg42k1h8dl858vnrtqdpudub82isdkeiqd@4ax.com...
:
: You don't seem to realize that while Christians *must believe in Jesus
: in order to get their "reward" and avoid an eternity in Hell®, there
: is nothing in atheism to believe; there is nothing in atheism to
: betray; there is no one to appease.

Liz #658 BAAWA
You can define anything you want, any way you want. Defining it as such
is not the same as offering real world evidence to support your
assertion. -- Woden
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User: "Mimi Cohen"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 09:39:56 PM
Liz wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:55:30 -0400, "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton"
<riain@zion.org.il> in news message
<fDi0f.141$tV1.23@bignews1.bellsouth.net> wrote:


In that is the same in many different religions, that ye always leave
out of your "equations" no doubt due to your prejudices and bigotry.



Since I was replying to a comment specifically about Christians, which
you conveniently snipped, in a thread titled about Christians, my
comment about Christians was on topic and not due to any prejudices.

I read his statement to be that he was using the generic "you" and not
you personally. I could be wrong, I have been before and undoubtedly
will again at some point. :)
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User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 10:03:26 PM
Yes, I was, but she doesn't care about, she is just all about bashing
all theists, regardless of their actual beliefs.
"Mimi Cohen" <imnot@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3Yl0f.981$gj1.432@fed1read05...
:
: I read his statement to be that he was using the generic "you" and not
: you personally. I could be wrong, I have been before and undoubtedly
: will again at some point. :)
.
User: ""

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 06 Oct 2005 01:05:23 AM
On 3-Oct-2005, "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote:

Yes, I was, but she doesn't care about, she is just all about bashing
all theists, regardless of their actual beliefs.

I get the feeling that a significant minority of a.a.'ers get punchdrunk
or just plain over-irritated by all the misisonizing they get & tend to
lash out at *any* theist they happen to come across in Usenet.
I try to give them some slack; they've earned it in the field of fire :-)
Susan




"Mimi Cohen" <imnot@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3Yl0f.981$gj1.432@fed1read05...
:
: I read his statement to be that he was using the generic "you" and not
: you personally. I could be wrong, I have been before and undoubtedly
: will again at some point. :)

.





User: "Raleigh"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 04 Oct 2005 06:19:22 AM
Liz wrote:
You don't seem to realize that while Christians *must believe in Jesus
in order to get their "reward" and avoid an eternity in Hell=AE, there
is nothing in atheism to believe; there is nothing in atheism to
betray; there is no one to appease.
Actually, in atheism, the atheist is his own little god. Everyone
else must appease him by removing all references to any other deity
from money, pledges, civil arenas, etc.
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
Raleigh
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 04 Oct 2005 06:22:15 AM
On 4 Oct 2005 04:19:22 -0700, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote:

Liz wrote:

You don't seem to realize that while Christians *must believe in Jesus
in order to get their "reward" and avoid an eternity in Hell®, there
is nothing in atheism to believe; there is nothing in atheism to
betray; there is no one to appease.

Actually, in atheism, the atheist is his own little god. Everyone

A liar and an idiot: atheists don't have gods.

else must appease him by removing all references to any other deity
from money, pledges, civil arenas, etc.

Liar.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Why are so many of you Christans so in-your-face nasty with your lies
and stupidity?

Raleigh

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User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 07:47:25 AM
On 3 Oct 2005 03:37:46 -0700, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote:

Robi wrote:

I think all the major retailers should >make a point of upsetting
Christians at least once a month. It >would amuse me to see where they'd
buy their goods then


You may have a point. I never heard of an atheist who refused
money, merely because it had "in God we trust" written on it. Or do
atheists not have convictions as Christians do?

Raleigh

Why? How many convictions have you had?
Or did the judge let you off, just because you were a fellow deludee?
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User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 02 Oct 2005 09:26:08 PM
Makes me want to go and buy everything IKEA has to offer!
"Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1128301491.711857.245690@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: Interesting report.
:
: All it means, though is that I won't buy anything else from IKEA, ever
: again.
:
: Raleigh
:
.
User: ""

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 04:03:22 AM
On 2-Oct-2005, "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote:

Makes me want to go and buy everything IKEA has to offer!

I think the whole thing is a hoax, because thereis no way Ikea would
insult such a huge customer base.
Susan


"Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1128301491.711857.245690@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: Interesting report.
:
: All it means, though is that I won't buy anything else from IKEA, ever
: again.

.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 04:33:22 AM
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:03:22 GMT in alt.atheism,

(
) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism


On 2-Oct-2005, "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote:

Makes me want to go and buy everything IKEA has to offer!

I think the whole thing is a hoax, because thereis no way Ikea would
insult such a huge customer base.

While your faith is commendable, one might consider that in the UK at
least, the Ikea's busiest day is a Sunday.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 02:13:26 PM
On 3-Oct-2005, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:03:22 GMT in alt.atheism,


(
) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism




On 2-Oct-2005, "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote:

Makes me want to go and buy everything IKEA has to offer!

I think the whole thing is a hoax, because thereis no way Ikea would
insult such a huge customer base.


While your faith is commendable,

Has nothing to do with me!!
one might consider that in the UK at

least, the Ikea's busiest day is a Sunday.

Sure, but the idea that they would say "There is no more religion,
come shop here" sounds ridiculously far-fetched.
Susan
.




User: "Liz"

Title: Re: IKEA Taunts Christians in Italy As They Fade in Influence 03 Oct 2005 06:49:31 AM
On 2 Oct 2005 19:02:10 -0700, "Raleigh" <graleigh345@cs.com> in news
message <1128301491.711857.245690@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:

Interesting report.

All it means, though is that I won't buy anything else from IKEA, ever
again.

Did you ever buy anything from Ikea before you read the report?
Liz #658 BAAWA
We may have lost our moral compass but we still have our chaste
sextant, our modest flashlight, our ethical pen knife, and our
virtuous canteen. -- jwkinraleigh
.



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