Religions > Atheism > I'll Forgive You, But Only If You Acknowledge Me As Your GOD!
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30 Jul 2005 10:22:38 PM |
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I'll Forgive You, But Only If You Acknowledge Me As Your GOD! |
Imagine if everyone behaved like Jebus.
Wife: "Honey, I'm sorry I burned a hole in your shirt while I
was ironing it."
Husband: "That's okay sweetie. Just acknowledge me as your Lord and
Savior who died for your sins and was resurrected and now reigns at the
right hand of the Almighty and we'll call it even."
Wife: "How about you lay off the booze before I have to get a divorce.
And why don't you iron your own shirts next time."
Husband: "Thou Harlot of Babylon, I will smite thee..."
<thunk> (Wife konks husband in head with iron)
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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31 Jul 2005 07:31:05 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:22:38 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Imagine if everyone behaved like Jebus.
Wife: "Honey, I'm sorry I burned a hole in your shirt while I
was ironing it."
Husband: "That's okay sweetie. Just acknowledge me as your Lord and
Savior who died for your sins and was resurrected and now reigns at the
right hand of the Almighty and we'll call it even."
Wife: "How about you lay off the booze before I have to get a divorce.
And why don't you iron your own shirts next time."
Husband: "Thou Harlot of Babylon, I will smite thee..."
<thunk> (Wife konks husband in head with iron)
You can't be faulted for thinking that you just described Christ, quib. You
don't have the common sense God gave a doorknob.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: I'll Forgive You, But Only If You Acknowledge Me As Your GOD! |
31 Jul 2005 07:54:11 AM |
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In article <92hpe1ld09sfn1ntgn6avq6q5sucmladoe@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:22:38 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Imagine if everyone behaved like Jebus.
Wife: "Honey, I'm sorry I burned a hole in your shirt while I
was ironing it."
Husband: "That's okay sweetie. Just acknowledge me as your Lord and
Savior who died for your sins and was resurrected and now reigns at the
right hand of the Almighty and we'll call it even."
Wife: "How about you lay off the booze before I have to get a divorce.
And why don't you iron your own shirts next time."
Husband: "Thou Harlot of Babylon, I will smite thee..."
<thunk> (Wife konks husband in head with iron)
You can't be faulted for thinking that you just described Christ, quib.
That's because my description was accurate, you drooling idiot.
You
don't have the common sense God gave a doorknob.
No, I have the real common sense of the most brilliant of human beings,
whereas your level of mental ability is more like that of a non-sentient
door knob. There is no god and he never gave common sense to
"doorknobs", you jackass. That's apparently why you utterly lack common
sense.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: I'll Forgive You, But Only If You Acknowledge Me As Your GOD! |
31 Jul 2005 03:00:51 PM |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 06:54:11 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can't be faulted for thinking that you just described Christ, quib.
That's because my description was accurate, you drooling idiot.
True, but not of Christ because you have no idea who Christ is.
You
don't have the common sense God gave a doorknob.
No, I have the real common sense of the most brilliant of human beings,
whereas your level of mental ability is more like that of a non-sentient
door knob.
Then why do you talk back to me?
There is no god and he never gave common sense to
"doorknobs", you jackass. That's apparently why you utterly lack common
sense.
See what I mean!
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "quibbler" |
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31 Jul 2005 09:28:47 PM |
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In article <49bqe1dtpu8fms7i47sea9enpdqb13rec0@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 06:54:11 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can't be faulted for thinking that you just described Christ, quib.
That's because my description was accurate, you drooling idiot.
True, but not of Christ
LOL! Then the "True" part you appear to be admitting to is that you're
a "drooling idiot".
because you have no idea who Christ is.
I know exactly what your Christ is and I flushed him down the toilet
with the rest of the fecal matter purveyed by xianity.
You
don't have the common sense God gave a doorknob.
No, I have the real common sense of the most brilliant of human beings,
whereas your level of mental ability is more like that of a non-sentient
door knob.
Then why do you talk back to me?
Granted, even you admit that it's not worth me wasting my time on you,
but I still occasionally find some entertainment value in smacking you
around so easily.
There is no god and he never gave common sense to
"doorknobs", you jackass. That's apparently why you utterly lack common
sense.
See what I mean!
I see that your commentary is devoid of significant meaning.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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01 Aug 2005 05:30:09 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:28:47 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can't be faulted for thinking that you just described Christ, quib.
That's because my description was accurate, you drooling idiot.
True, but not of Christ
LOL! Then the "True" part you appear to be admitting to is that you're
a "drooling idiot".
You're sniffing too much glue, quib.
because you have no idea who Christ is.
I know exactly what your Christ is and I flushed him down the toilet
with the rest of the fecal matter purveyed by xianity.
So why do you hate Christ so much, quib? Everything he did, he did for your
benefit.
No, I have the real common sense of the most brilliant of human beings,
whereas your level of mental ability is more like that of a non-sentient
door knob.
Then why do you talk back to me?
Granted, even you admit that it's not worth me wasting my time on you,
but I still occasionally find some entertainment value in smacking you
around so easily.
You're not mature enough to do that, quib.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: I'll Forgive You, But Only If You Acknowledge Me As Your GOD! |
01 Aug 2005 10:03:43 AM |
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In article <h4ure1dejhob0ec269iv17vlm4ur7am1ga@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:28:47 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can't be faulted for thinking that you just described Christ, quib.
That's because my description was accurate, you drooling idiot.
True, but not of Christ
LOL! Then the "True" part you appear to be admitting to is that you're
a "drooling idiot".
You're sniffing too much glue, quib.
You're projecting, you idiot cathaholic. Why don't you stop guzzling
the sacramental wine.
because you have no idea who Christ is.
I know exactly what your Christ is and I flushed him down the toilet
with the rest of the fecal matter purveyed by xianity.
So why do you hate Christ so much, quib? Everything he did, he did for your
benefit.
"Christ" is a complete fable and it is not even the name of any one
particular character. It's just a misrepresentation of crazy jewish
messianic nonsense. As far as the jesus character, there's no
indication that he actually did anything of substance for anybody.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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01 Aug 2005 06:11:29 PM |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:03:43 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <h4ure1dejhob0ec269iv17vlm4ur7am1ga@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:28:47 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can't be faulted for thinking that you just described Christ, quib.
That's because my description was accurate, you drooling idiot.
True, but not of Christ
LOL! Then the "True" part you appear to be admitting to is that you're
a "drooling idiot".
You're sniffing too much glue, quib.
You're projecting, you idiot cathaholic. Why don't you stop guzzling
the sacramental wine.
Haahaahaahaahaa. Quib, you are a blithering idiot.
because you have no idea who Christ is.
I know exactly what your Christ is and I flushed him down the toilet
with the rest of the fecal matter purveyed by xianity.
So why do you hate Christ so much, quib? Everything he did, he did for your
benefit.
"Christ" is a complete fable and it is not even the name of any one
particular character.
But why would anyone believe you? You can't support such a wild idea. The
point is that nobody does believe you.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: I'll Forgive You, But Only If You Acknowledge Me As Your GOD! |
01 Aug 2005 06:51:51 PM |
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In article <utate1trjb1jkg6io9dhq0qdoe3ge7p60t@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
You're projecting, you idiot cathaholic. Why don't you stop guzzling
the sacramental wine.
Haahaahaahaahaa. Quib, you are a blithering idiot.
You're obviously a nasty drunk, who has be looking in the mirror too
long and projecting your own idiocy and other shortcomings upon others.
because you have no idea who Christ is.
I know exactly what your Christ is and I flushed him down the toilet
with the rest of the fecal matter purveyed by xianity.
So why do you hate Christ so much, quib? Everything he did, he did for your
benefit.
"Christ" is a complete fable and it is not even the name of any one
particular character.
But why would anyone believe you? You can't support such a wild idea. The
point is that nobody does believe you.
You can't demonstrate that your pathetic Jesus myth is anything but a
poorly written fable.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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02 Aug 2005 05:34:41 AM |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 17:51:51 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can't demonstrate that your pathetic Jesus myth is anything but a
poorly written fable.
Sure I can - he walked out of the tomb, and that was witnessed.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: I'll Forgive You, But Only If You Acknowledge Me As Your GOD! |
02 Aug 2005 10:01:07 AM |
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In article <11jue15v5a1n5g58789d1abug7jqbs13lu@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 17:51:51 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can't demonstrate that your pathetic Jesus myth is anything but a
poorly written fable.
Sure I can - he walked out of the tomb, and that was witnessed.
It will be entertaining for you to state specifically who "witnessed"
the actual event of Jesus walking out of the tomb. However, the
fictional gospel accounts are no more an eye witness account than the
"Seven Dwarves" are eye witnesses to Snow White.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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02 Aug 2005 06:05:37 PM |
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:01:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sure I can - he walked out of the tomb, and that was witnessed.
It will be entertaining for you to state specifically who "witnessed"
the actual event of Jesus walking out of the tomb. However, the
fictional gospel accounts are no more an eye witness account than the
"Seven Dwarves" are eye witnesses to Snow White.
Say quib, can you state beyond doubt that George Washington is proven to have
signed the Declaration of Independence, or was it really his farm foreman or
someone else signing for him? How about Samuel Adams?
I'll wait for your answer.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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02 Aug 2005 06:15:23 PM |
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In article <vsuve1lkhgu3hrc5hubrgeg87s56umnu2a@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:01:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sure I can - he walked out of the tomb, and that was witnessed.
It will be entertaining for you to state specifically who "witnessed"
the actual event of Jesus walking out of the tomb. However, the
fictional gospel accounts are no more an eye witness account than the
"Seven Dwarves" are eye witnesses to Snow White.
Say quib, can you state beyond doubt that George Washington is proven to have
signed the Declaration of Independence, or was it really his farm foreman or
someone else signing for him?
Gee, I can pretty much state that neither did George Washington sign the
Declaration of Independence, nor did anyone else sign his name to it.
Got history?
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02 Aug 2005 10:30:18 PM |
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In article <dcouqb$7ad$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu says...
Gee, I can pretty much state that neither did George Washington sign the
Declaration of Independence, nor did anyone else sign his name to it.
Dukkke just can't stop making an ***** of himself. What's next, puke-boy
thinking that Washington really did admit to chopping down that cherry
tree and really did chuck a silver dollar across the Potomac?
Got history?
Dukkke's got senility, but that's about all.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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03 Aug 2005 08:23:45 PM |
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:30:18 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Gee, I can pretty much state that neither did George Washington sign the
Declaration of Independence, nor did anyone else sign his name to it.
Dukkke just can't stop making an ***** of himself. What's next, puke-boy
thinking that Washington really did admit to chopping down that cherry
tree and really did chuck a silver dollar across the Potomac?
You ducked the issue of the DofI, quib. I'm not surprised.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: I'll Forgive You, But Only If You Acknowledge Me As Your GOD! |
03 Aug 2005 10:39:48 PM |
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In article <mfr2f11cqip66hpk3simgbp1mj89tf5j0d@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:30:18 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Gee, I can pretty much state that neither did George Washington sign the
Declaration of Independence, nor did anyone else sign his name to it.
Dukkke just can't stop making an ***** of himself. What's next, puke-boy
thinking that Washington really did admit to chopping down that cherry
tree and really did chuck a silver dollar across the Potomac?
You ducked the issue of the DofI, quib. I'm not surprised.
Actually, I just correctly mocked your massive idiocy.
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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02 Aug 2005 10:28:16 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:05:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:01:07 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sure I can - he walked out of the tomb, and that was witnessed.
It will be entertaining for you to state specifically who "witnessed"
the actual event of Jesus walking out of the tomb. However, the
fictional gospel accounts are no more an eye witness account than the
"Seven Dwarves" are eye witnesses to Snow White.
Say quib, can you state beyond doubt that George Washington is proven to have
signed the Declaration of Independence, or was it really his farm foreman or
someone else signing for him? How about Samuel Adams?
Uh, Earl? Washington didn't sign the Declaration. Don't know *****
about history either, I see.
We have many examples of Samuel Adams' writing. Letters, diaries,
preofessional correspondance. We can compare the signatures.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "duke" |
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03 Aug 2005 08:27:22 PM |
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 03:28:16 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Say quib, can you state beyond doubt that George Washington is proven to have
signed the Declaration of Independence, or was it really his farm foreman or
someone else signing for him? How about Samuel Adams?
Uh, Earl? Washington didn't sign the Declaration. Don't know *****
about history either, I see.
Uh, berry, where did I say he did?
We have many examples of Samuel Adams' writing. Letters, diaries,
preofessional correspondance. We can compare the signatures.
But it would take a handwriting expert to compare, and which are his real
signatures and which are not, if any? That's my point exactly.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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02 Aug 2005 08:01:06 AM |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 05:34:41 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 17:51:51 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can't demonstrate that your pathetic Jesus myth is anything but a
poorly written fable.
Sure I can - he walked out of the tomb, and that was witnessed.
By whom, exactly?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: I'll Forgive You, But Only If You Acknowledge Me As Your GOD! |
02 Aug 2005 06:02:40 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 13:01:06 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Sure I can - he walked out of the tomb, and that was witnessed.
By whom, exactly?
500+ people that reported the news. You know - sorta like the American
Revolution - no photos, no videocams, no tv, no live eye witnesses still around
anymore, just word of mouth passed on and on and on. Some original documents
hanging around. The only difference is that one was 200 years ago and the other
2000 years ago so the obvious quantity and quality are greater for the AR. But
that's to be expected, and does not certify accuracy for the AR but not the
bible references.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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02 Aug 2005 10:25:39 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:02:40 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 13:01:06 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Sure I can - he walked out of the tomb, and that was witnessed.
By whom, exactly?
500+ people that reported the news. You know - sorta like the American
Revolution - no photos, no videocams, no tv, no live eye witnesses still around
anymore, just word of mouth passed on and on and on. Some original documents
hanging around. The only difference is that one was 200 years ago and the other
2000 years ago so the obvious quantity and quality are greater for the AR. But
that's to be expected, and does not certify accuracy for the AR but not the
bible references.
Except we have thousands of pages of documentation from people we can
confirm lived at the time. We have newspapers from both sides of the
Atlantic reporting on the war, letters from generals and soldiers,
budgets, and battle maps. We also have thousands of physical
artifacts.. bullets, muskets, uniforms from battlefield graves, sunken
ships, and the like.
Then we have the Treaty of Paris, which ended the war.
Does the Bible name these 500 people? Can we confirm their existence?
Do we even know for sure who wrote down these accounts? It's a known
fact that none of them are eyewitness accounts.
A little test for you. I fought in the first Gulf War, without
looking it up, answer these questions, if you can. It was only 14
years ago, so this should be a piece of cake.
1. What was the name of the Ground Phase of the assault
2. Name the commander of US Army forces in the region.
3. Name three countries in the Coalition other than the US
4. What date did the Air Phase begin?
5. How long did it last?
6. The largest tank battle since WWII took place at a place known only
by its map location. Name this battle
7. What Iraqi city marked the end line of the assault?
8. The road leading north from Kuwait City earn a nickname, what was
it?
9. True or False: Coalition troops incountry included forces from
Czechoslovakia, Bangladesh, and France
10: How many Americans were killed in action?
See how many of these you can get right, and then well discuss books
written decades after the fact hundreds of miles from the location
where the events began.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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03 Aug 2005 10:53:05 AM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:02:40 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 13:01:06 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Sure I can - he walked out of the tomb, and that was witnessed.
By whom, exactly?
500+ people that reported the news. You know - sorta like the American
Revolution - no photos, no videocams, no tv, no live eye witnesses still
around
anymore, just word of mouth passed on and on and on. Some original
documents
hanging around. The only difference is that one was 200 years ago and the
other
2000 years ago so the obvious quantity and quality are greater for the AR.
But
that's to be expected, and does not certify accuracy for the AR but not
the
bible references.
Bad analogy.
The eye witness testimony and original documents concerning the AR do not
make any fantastic or supernatural claims which involve events which would
be completely impossible by today's scientific standards.
If they did, I'm sure you would be the first to question them.
.....Or perhaps not.
--
Steve O
Atheist Freethinker
Atheist list #2240
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03 Aug 2005 08:22:07 PM |
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On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 16:53:05 +0100, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote:
500+ people that reported the news. You know - sorta like the American
Revolution - no photos, no videocams, no tv, no live eye witnesses still
around
anymore, just word of mouth passed on and on and on. Some original
documents
hanging around. The only difference is that one was 200 years ago and the
other
2000 years ago so the obvious quantity and quality are greater for the AR.
But
that's to be expected, and does not certify accuracy for the AR but not
the
bible references.
Bad analogy.
A man that died on a cross walking out of the tomb on the third day. It's an
outstanding example.
The eye witness testimony and original documents concerning the AR do not
make any fantastic or supernatural claims which involve events which would
be completely impossible by today's scientific standards.
Nor can you believe them other than in faith.
If they did, I'm sure you would be the first to question them.
....Or perhaps not.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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03 Aug 2005 08:20:37 PM |
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 03:25:39 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
500+ people that reported the news. You know - sorta like the American
Revolution - no photos, no videocams, no tv, no live eye witnesses still around
anymore, just word of mouth passed on and on and on. Some original documents
hanging around. The only difference is that one was 200 years ago and the other
2000 years ago so the obvious quantity and quality are greater for the AR. But
that's to be expected, and does not certify accuracy for the AR but not the
bible references.
Except we have thousands of pages of documentation from people we can
confirm lived at the time.
But not events of the AR, which you take on faith. Like I said, the records
are obviously more reliable being only 200 years old rather than 2000 years, but
the information is the same type quantity .
We have newspapers from both sides of the
Atlantic reporting on the war, letters from generals and soldiers,
budgets, and battle maps. We also have thousands of physical
artifacts.. bullets, muskets, uniforms from battlefield graves, sunken
ships, and the like.
But berry, that is age, not confirmability. Did that rifle fire during the AR,
50 years before or 50 years after? Did George Washington sign the DofI or did
his farm hand? How about Samuel Adams?
Then we have the Treaty of Paris, which ended the war.
Any live eye witnesses?
Does the Bible name these 500 people? Can we confirm their existence?
Do we even know for sure who wrote down these accounts? It's a known
fact that none of them are eyewitness accounts.
Come come, 100 years from now, no one will believe the holocaust. That's what
history does, from Jesus to now.
A little test for you. I fought in the first Gulf War, without
looking it up, answer these questions, if you can. It was only 14
years ago, so this should be a piece of cake.
1. What was the name of the Ground Phase of the assault
Desert Storm.
2. Name the commander of US Army forces in the region.
Swartzkoff.
3. Name three countries in the Coalition other than the US
England, Spain, Turkey.
4. What date did the Air Phase begin?
What difference does it make. I walked into the supermarket and the butcher
told me we were at war. Remember it like it was yesterday, but not the date.
It was a January, late in the month.
5. How long did it last?
Ground 100 hrs.
6. The largest tank battle since WWII took place at a place known only
by its map location. Name this battle
7. What Iraqi city marked the end line of the assault?
Probably Basra.
8. The road leading north from Kuwait City earn a nickname, what was
it?
Death.
9. True or False: Coalition troops incountry included forces from
Czechoslovakia, Bangladesh, and France
10: How many Americans were killed in action?
About 100.
See how many of these you can get right, and then well discuss books
written decades after the fact hundreds of miles from the location
where the events began.
My point exactly.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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01 Aug 2005 08:23:08 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:31:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:22:38 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Imagine if everyone behaved like Jebus.
Wife: "Honey, I'm sorry I burned a hole in your shirt while I
was ironing it."
Husband: "That's okay sweetie. Just acknowledge me as your Lord and
Savior who died for your sins and was resurrected and now reigns at the
right hand of the Almighty and we'll call it even."
Wife: "How about you lay off the booze before I have to get a divorce.
And why don't you iron your own shirts next time."
Husband: "Thou Harlot of Babylon, I will smite thee..."
<thunk> (Wife konks husband in head with iron)
You can't be faulted for thinking that you just described Christ, quib. You
don't have the common sense God gave a doorknob.
A opposed to you, who thinks his god, IS a door knob.
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling, Like any opinion stated here,
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
Na bister 500,000
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01 Aug 2005 06:12:50 PM |
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:23:08 GMT, Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:31:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:22:38 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Imagine if everyone behaved like Jebus.
Wife: "Honey, I'm sorry I burned a hole in your shirt while I
was ironing it."
Husband: "That's okay sweetie. Just acknowledge me as your Lord and
Savior who died for your sins and was resurrected and now reigns at the
right hand of the Almighty and we'll call it even."
Wife: "How about you lay off the booze before I have to get a divorce.
And why don't you iron your own shirts next time."
Husband: "Thou Harlot of Babylon, I will smite thee..."
<thunk> (Wife konks husband in head with iron)
You can't be faulted for thinking that you just described Christ, quib. You
don't have the common sense God gave a doorknob.
A opposed to you, who thinks his god, IS a door knob.
No, but you might. Won't you be surprised when you stand before God at the
moment of your death, and he's not a doorknob.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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01 Aug 2005 06:56:22 PM |
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In article <u1bte1logl6lac1h3qakoraa6ghhb064hu@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
Won't you be surprised when you stand before God
In a word NO, because there is no God and only retards like you are
still terrorized by the evil lies of xianity.
at the
moment of your death, and he's not a doorknob.
No, he's a steaming pile of imaginary *****, much like the contents
of your brain.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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02 Aug 2005 05:35:41 AM |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 17:56:22 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <u1bte1logl6lac1h3qakoraa6ghhb064hu@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
Won't you be surprised when you stand before God
In a word NO, because there is no God and only retards like you are
still terrorized by the evil lies of xianity.
Both you and I will find out for sure one moment after we die, won't we.
at the
moment of your death, and he's not a doorknob.
No, he's a steaming pile of imaginary *****, much like the contents
of your brain.
Are you ready?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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02 Aug 2005 09:47:36 AM |
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In article <b2jue191ntc6s9a31skmlrd8emr7u3tpp5@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 17:56:22 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <u1bte1logl6lac1h3qakoraa6ghhb064hu@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
Won't you be surprised when you stand before God
In a word NO, because there is no God and only retards like you are
still terrorized by the evil lies of xianity.
Both you and I will find out for sure one moment after we die, won't we.
No, you won't find out anything when you're dead because you'll be DEAD.
That means you will cease to be. Of course you aren't capable of
learning anything even when you are alive, but that's a different story.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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02 Aug 2005 06:10:38 PM |
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 08:47:36 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Both you and I will find out for sure one moment after we die, won't we.
No, you won't find out anything when you're dead because you'll be DEAD.
That means you will cease to be. Of course you aren't capable of
learning anything even when you are alive, but that's a different story.
Hey, quib, do you really believe that man and woman, somehow each magically
entrusted with 50% of the conception equation, mixed thru a pleasurable act via
complementary shaped organs (one magically pumped up with blood to harden it),
is factual truth, but there is no chance that death as we know it of the
physical body is the end of all things for us and there can be nothing else
because we can't see it?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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02 Aug 2005 06:18:29 PM |
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In article <a2vve1h44n9q4b1ehsnevk7i8n81gvaao1@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 08:47:36 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Both you and I will find out for sure one moment after we die, won't we.
No, you won't find out anything when you're dead because you'll be DEAD.
That means you will cease to be. Of course you aren't capable of
learning anything even when you are alive, but that's a different story.
Hey, quib, do you really believe that man and woman, somehow each magically
entrusted with 50% of the conception equation, mixed thru a pleasurable act via
complementary shaped organs (one magically pumped up with blood to harden it),
is factual truth, but there is no chance that death as we know it of the
physical body is the end of all things for us and there can be nothing else
because we can't see it?
Interestingly, every biological fact you just listed is equally true of horses.
Do you really believe that there is no chance that death as we know it of
the physical body of horsies is the end of all things for horsies, and
there can be nothing else for horsies because we can't see it?
-- cary
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