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"Adam" |
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07 May 2004 11:04:43 PM |
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I'm gay & I have AIDS |
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
17 May 2004 10:26:09 AM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 14:05:25 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Mon, 17 May 2004
09:14:25 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:29:08 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Sun, 16 May 2004
18:56:32 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
Yes, but it's the difference between states I think is daft. Not in the
example you give, bu tmore along the lines of laws where it is legal
to do something in one state and not another! You go on a trip and
break the law without realising it!
And I can carry my .45 in hip holster in England?
No answer?
Does it require one? I have answered below.
Do quite understand how *big* the United States is? 360 million
people, about 4,000 miles side-to-side, close to 2,00 top to bottom..
and that doesn't even cover Alaska and Hawaii!
So what if it's big? You have ONE government. If you want to ***** about with different rules everywhere, get more governments.
Ah! I see where the confusion lies. We don't have one government.
We have one federal government and fifty state governments. My home
state of California has a Constitution
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/const-toc.html
along with the three branches of government. Almost all of what
happens in the state is run by the state government. I vote for state
officials (you might remember our three-ring circus last year where we
put Arnold the Republican in the Governor's office.)
We also have a federal government. We vote for most of that.
The United States is a Federal Union. Hell, the bulk of our Army
doesn't technically belong to the federal government, but to the
states! It's called the National Guard. During WWII, the vast majority
of American troops were actually from these state armies under federal
control for the duration.
Jesus christ........
We accept that local control of the laws is best. Hattenberg County,
Alabama, decides the booze is evil and outlaws the sale or possession
of alchoholic spirits. That's their law, and they're happy with it.
Don't like it? Move.
BUAHAHAHAHA! Now that's rediculous.
Why? They've made the decision, and they vote does not violate the
Constitution in any way. About a third of the counties in the South
are dry. Ever hear of Jack Daniels Whisky? The county it is
distilled in is dry. So if you take the tour, and the end, they put
you on a bus and drive you five miles to the tasting room in another
county!.
Now that is INSANE.
Those differences are few and far between, actually. The big weirdo
is Nevada with legalized gambling and prostitution.
LEGALIZED? Do you mean to say on most of the states that those two are prohibited?!?
49 out of 50. New Jersey allows gambling in Atlantic City. In Nevada
prostitution is legal only in counties with population densities below
a certain level.
Bloody hell. As far as I know the whole of the UK allows gambling. Don't you have bookies for horse races and so forth?!?!?!?
Oh, and American Indians can run casinos on their reservations..
tribal lands are exempt form most state laws..
Cool.
Have you ever been here?
Thankfully not.
You might like it. We have some amazing sights.
"America would be a wonderful place if it weren't for the Americans"
--
11 parrots and increasing, photos at http://www.petersparrots.com
1 gigabyte of my digital photos, http://www.petersphotos.com
The silliest video clips you've ever seen, http://www.insanevideoclips.com
I take loads of laxatives when the pollen count rises. It stops me sneezing - I daren't.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
17 May 2004 09:53:05 PM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Mon, 17 May 2004
16:26:09 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Mon, 17 May 2004 14:05:25 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Mon, 17 May 2004
09:14:25 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
Ah! I see where the confusion lies. We don't have one government.
We have one federal government and fifty state governments. My home
state of California has a Constitution
<snip>
The United States is a Federal Union. Hell, the bulk of our Army
doesn't technically belong to the federal government, but to the
states! It's called the National Guard. During WWII, the vast majority
of American troops were actually from these state armies under federal
control for the duration.
Jesus christ........
System works though.
Why? They've made the decision, and they vote does not violate the
Constitution in any way. About a third of the counties in the South
are dry. Ever hear of Jack Daniels Whisky? The county it is
distilled in is dry. So if you take the tour, and the end, they put
you on a bus and drive you five miles to the tasting room in another
county!.
Now that is INSANE.
Not really. The bus trip is through some gorgeous countryside, and
it's part of the charm.
49 out of 50. New Jersey allows gambling in Atlantic City. In Nevada
prostitution is legal only in counties with population densities below
a certain level.
Bloody hell. As far as I know the whole of the UK allows gambling. Don't you have bookies for horse races and so forth?!?!?!?
It *wait for it* depnds on the state and local laws. You can bet on
horse races at the track. So if I go to Bay Meadows, I can wager on
races around the world. New York has state run OTB (Off Track
Betting) parlors where the state gets a cut.
Oh, and American Indians can run casinos on their reservations..
tribal lands are exempt form most state laws..
Cool.
Yup. We screwed them, now they get to screw back.
You might like it. We have some amazing sights.
"America would be a wonderful place if it weren't for the Americans"
Funny, my sister just returned from her honeymoon in the UK and said
much the same thing about the English. (She loved the Scots and their
homeland.)
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
18 May 2004 06:56:12 AM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 02:53:05 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Mon, 17 May 2004
16:26:09 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Mon, 17 May 2004 14:05:25 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Mon, 17 May 2004
09:14:25 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
Ah! I see where the confusion lies. We don't have one government.
We have one federal government and fifty state governments. My home
state of California has a Constitution
<snip>
The United States is a Federal Union. Hell, the bulk of our Army
doesn't technically belong to the federal government, but to the
states! It's called the National Guard. During WWII, the vast majority
of American troops were actually from these state armies under federal
control for the duration.
Jesus christ........
System works though.
If you think so.
Why? They've made the decision, and they vote does not violate the
Constitution in any way. About a third of the counties in the South
are dry. Ever hear of Jack Daniels Whisky? The county it is
distilled in is dry. So if you take the tour, and the end, they put
you on a bus and drive you five miles to the tasting room in another
county!.
Now that is INSANE.
Not really. The bus trip is through some gorgeous countryside, and
it's part of the charm.
Yes, but the law is illogical. It's legal to make but not drink. I always thought the restrictions tended to be where you could brew it.
49 out of 50. New Jersey allows gambling in Atlantic City. In Nevada
prostitution is legal only in counties with population densities below
a certain level.
Bloody hell. As far as I know the whole of the UK allows gambling. Don't you have bookies for horse races and so forth?!?!?!?
It *wait for it* depnds on the state and local laws. You can bet on
horse races at the track. So if I go to Bay Meadows, I can wager on
races around the world. New York has state run OTB (Off Track
Betting) parlors where the state gets a cut.
Ah, all taxes innit.
You might like it. We have some amazing sights.
"America would be a wonderful place if it weren't for the Americans"
Funny, my sister just returned from her honeymoon in the UK and said
much the same thing about the English. (She loved the Scots and their
homeland.)
IT depends where you go. The North of England is very friendly. London is not.
--
11 parrots and increasing, photos at http://www.petersparrots.com
1 gigabyte of my digital photos, http://www.petersphotos.com
The silliest video clips you've ever seen, http://www.insanevideoclips.com
Freeze mother stickers, this is a ***** up!
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
18 May 2004 07:46:37 AM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Tue, 18 May 2004
12:56:12 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 02:53:05 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Mon, 17 May 2004
16:26:09 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
System works though.
If you think so.
I know so.
Not really. The bus trip is through some gorgeous countryside, and
it's part of the charm.
Yes, but the law is illogical. It's legal to make but not drink. I always thought the restrictions tended to be where you could brew it.
Ah. The distillery predates the law. So the law was written to allow
Jack Daniels (a major source of jobs in the county) to stay put.
Political reality, ain't it grand?
It *wait for it* depnds on the state and local laws. You can bet on
horse races at the track. So if I go to Bay Meadows, I can wager on
races around the world. New York has state run OTB (Off Track
Betting) parlors where the state gets a cut.
Ah, all taxes innit.
Pretty much.
Funny, my sister just returned from her honeymoon in the UK and said
much the same thing about the English. (She loved the Scots and their
homeland.)
IT depends where you go. The North of England is very friendly. London is not.
You can say the same thing about the states. Some place the people
are rude, others they're fantastic.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
18 May 2004 08:03:07 AM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:46:37 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Tue, 18 May 2004
12:56:12 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 02:53:05 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Mon, 17 May 2004
16:26:09 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
System works though.
If you think so.
I know so.
America is the most fucked up country on the planet.
Not really. The bus trip is through some gorgeous countryside, and
it's part of the charm.
Yes, but the law is illogical. It's legal to make but not drink. I always thought the restrictions tended to be where you could brew it.
Ah. The distillery predates the law. So the law was written to allow
Jack Daniels (a major source of jobs in the county) to stay put.
Political reality, ain't it grand?
Probably a bit of bribery involved too.
It *wait for it* depnds on the state and local laws. You can bet on
horse races at the track. So if I go to Bay Meadows, I can wager on
races around the world. New York has state run OTB (Off Track
Betting) parlors where the state gets a cut.
Ah, all taxes innit.
Pretty much.
I think we should try anarchy.
Funny, my sister just returned from her honeymoon in the UK and said
much the same thing about the English. (She loved the Scots and their
homeland.)
IT depends where you go. The North of England is very friendly. London is not.
You can say the same thing about the states. Some place the people
are rude, others they're fantastic.
It's weird how people collect. Even more confusing is accents. People move around so much, but accents stay put.
--
11 parrots and increasing, photos at http://www.petersparrots.com
1 gigabyte of my digital photos, http://www.petersphotos.com
The silliest video clips you've ever seen, http://www.insanevideoclips.com
I went to a drive-in movie in a taxi - it cost me 95 quid.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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18 May 2004 07:54:32 PM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Tue, 18 May 2004
14:03:07 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:46:37 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
America is the most fucked up country on the planet.
I see you've never been to the Third World. Try Honduras sometime.
Better yet, try to use the phones.
Ah. The distillery predates the law. So the law was written to allow
Jack Daniels (a major source of jobs in the county) to stay put.
Political reality, ain't it grand?
Probably a bit of bribery involved too.
"We get to keep our jobs" is a pretty good incentive.
I think we should try anarchy.
I've seen anarchy. It doesn't work. You'd hate it.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
19 May 2004 05:06:15 AM |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 00:54:32 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Tue, 18 May 2004
14:03:07 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:46:37 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
America is the most fucked up country on the planet.
I see you've never been to the Third World. Try Honduras sometime.
Better yet, try to use the phones.
Ah. The distillery predates the law. So the law was written to allow
Jack Daniels (a major source of jobs in the county) to stay put.
Political reality, ain't it grand?
Probably a bit of bribery involved too.
"We get to keep our jobs" is a pretty good incentive.
That line fucks up all sorts. People won't speak their mind cause they must "tow the line".
I think we should try anarchy.
I've seen anarchy. It doesn't work. You'd hate it.
Anything is better than wankers in government telling you what you can and can't do.
--
11 parrots http://www.petersparrots.com
93 silly video clips http://www.insanevideoclips.com
1259 digital photos http://www.petersphotos.com
The chance of a piece of bread falling down on it's buttered side is directly proportional to the cost of the carpet.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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19 May 2004 11:40:11 AM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Wed, 19 May 2004
11:06:15 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Wed, 19 May 2004 00:54:32 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Tue, 18 May 2004
14:03:07 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
I think we should try anarchy.
I've seen anarchy. It doesn't work. You'd hate it.
Anything is better than wankers in government telling you what you can and can't do.
Starvation, roving gangs taking what is left, warlords demanding
obedience or death by torture, cholera, diphtheria, breakdown of basic
sanitation services because nobody is at the controls.. that's
anarchy.
Go read up on the situation in Somalia in the early 90s to see what
happens when all semblance of government vanishes.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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19 May 2004 12:13:29 PM |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 16:40:11 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Wed, 19 May 2004
11:06:15 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Wed, 19 May 2004 00:54:32 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Tue, 18 May 2004
14:03:07 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
I think we should try anarchy.
I've seen anarchy. It doesn't work. You'd hate it.
Anything is better than wankers in government telling you what you can and can't do.
Starvation, roving gangs taking what is left, warlords demanding
obedience or death by torture, cholera, diphtheria, breakdown of basic
sanitation services because nobody is at the controls.. that's
anarchy.
I've seen the scifi films thanks.
Go read up on the situation in Somalia in the early 90s to see what
happens when all semblance of government vanishes.
There's a difference between anarchy, corruption, and third world land.
--
11 parrots http://www.petersparrots.com
93 silly video clips http://www.insanevideoclips.com
1259 digital photos http://www.petersphotos.com
It turns out that a several protected, rare birds in Germany have been feeding on a species of protected, rare fish. In response to this dilemma, exasperated German officials have decided to do the only thing that makes sense in this kind of a situation - kill all the environmentalists.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
19 May 2004 06:06:51 PM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Wed, 19 May 2004
18:13:29 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Wed, 19 May 2004 16:40:11 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Starvation, roving gangs taking what is left, warlords demanding
obedience or death by torture, cholera, diphtheria, breakdown of basic
sanitation services because nobody is at the controls.. that's
anarchy.
I've seen the scifi films thanks.
No, I'm taslking about East Africa. In the real world. I was there,
sir, trying to get food to people who were starvi8ng to death.
Go read up on the situation in Somalia in the early 90s to see what
happens when all semblance of government vanishes.
There's a difference between anarchy, corruption, and third world land.
No, what I saw wasn't corruption, it was the end of thwe rule of law.
Food didn't reach the areas hit by famine because it was stolen off
the docks. When troops came ashore and began enforcing law, the food
began getting to where it needed to go.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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19 May 2004 06:50:00 PM |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:06:51 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Wed, 19 May 2004
18:13:29 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Wed, 19 May 2004 16:40:11 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Starvation, roving gangs taking what is left, warlords demanding
obedience or death by torture, cholera, diphtheria, breakdown of basic
sanitation services because nobody is at the controls.. that's
anarchy.
I've seen the scifi films thanks.
No, I'm taslking about East Africa. In the real world. I was there,
sir, trying to get food to people who were starvi8ng to death.
Go read up on the situation in Somalia in the early 90s to see what
happens when all semblance of government vanishes.
There's a difference between anarchy, corruption, and third world land.
No, what I saw wasn't corruption, it was the end of thwe rule of law.
Food didn't reach the areas hit by famine because it was stolen off
the docks. When troops came ashore and began enforcing law, the food
began getting to where it needed to go.
It wouldn't have been stolen if it wasn't an infertile land.
--
11 parrots http://www.petersparrots.com
93 silly video clips http://www.insanevideoclips.com
1259 digital photos http://www.petersphotos.com
As they say at Microsoft - "What do you want to reinstall today?"
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
19 May 2004 08:02:02 PM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Thu, 20 May 2004
00:50:00 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:06:51 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
There's a difference between anarchy, corruption, and third world land.
No, what I saw wasn't corruption, it was the end of thwe rule of law.
Food didn't reach the areas hit by famine because it was stolen off
the docks. When troops came ashore and began enforcing law, the food
began getting to where it needed to go.
It wouldn't have been stolen if it wasn't an infertile land.
OK, you're either terminally ignorant, or a complete moron.
Somalia had supported a farming culture for thousands of years. But
decades of intermittent drought, along with war, caused a failure in
the crops and the support systems that had provided water in lean
times. Bingo, famine.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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21 May 2004 06:31:35 PM |
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On Thu, 20 May 2004 01:02:02 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Thu, 20 May 2004
00:50:00 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:06:51 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
There's a difference between anarchy, corruption, and third world land.
No, what I saw wasn't corruption, it was the end of thwe rule of law.
Food didn't reach the areas hit by famine because it was stolen off
the docks. When troops came ashore and began enforcing law, the food
began getting to where it needed to go.
It wouldn't have been stolen if it wasn't an infertile land.
OK, you're either terminally ignorant, or a complete moron.
Somalia had supported a farming culture for thousands of years. But
decades of intermittent drought,
SEE! My point was it wasn't just caused by war.
along with war, caused a failure in
the crops and the support systems that had provided water in lean
times. Bingo, famine.
--
11 parrots http://www.petersparrots.com
93 silly video clips http://www.insanevideoclips.com
1259 digital photos http://www.petersphotos.com
Confuscious say: "Man who sit on tack get point!"
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
21 May 2004 09:20:19 PM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <hucker@clara.co.uk>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Sat, 22 May 2004
00:31:35 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Thu, 20 May 2004 01:02:02 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Thu, 20 May 2004
00:50:00 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:06:51 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
There's a difference between anarchy, corruption, and third world land.
No, what I saw wasn't corruption, it was the end of thwe rule of law.
Food didn't reach the areas hit by famine because it was stolen off
the docks. When troops came ashore and began enforcing law, the food
began getting to where it needed to go.
It wouldn't have been stolen if it wasn't an infertile land.
OK, you're either terminally ignorant, or a complete moron.
Somalia had supported a farming culture for thousands of years. But
decades of intermittent drought,
SEE! My point was it wasn't just caused by war.
And in the absence of a strong government, tribal factions began
grabbing what they could. That's where the anarchy comes in. People
were dying from cholera there. Cholera!
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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22 May 2004 11:49:16 AM |
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On Sat, 22 May 2004 02:20:19 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <hucker@clara.co.uk>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Sat, 22 May 2004
00:31:35 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Thu, 20 May 2004 01:02:02 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Thu, 20 May 2004
00:50:00 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:06:51 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
<snip>
No, what I saw wasn't corruption, it was the end of thwe rule of law.
Food didn't reach the areas hit by famine because it was stolen off
the docks. When troops came ashore and began enforcing law, the food
began getting to where it needed to go.
It wouldn't have been stolen if it wasn't an infertile land.
OK, you're either terminally ignorant, or a complete moron.
Somalia had supported a farming culture for thousands of years. But
decades of intermittent drought,
SEE! My point was it wasn't just caused by war.
And in the absence of a strong government, tribal factions began
grabbing what they could. That's where the anarchy comes in. People
were dying from cholera there. Cholera!
The strong shall survive.
--
11 parrots http://www.petersparrots.com
93 silly video clips http://www.insanevideoclips.com
1259 digital photos http://www.petersphotos.com
2400 Baud makes you want to get out and push!!
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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23 May 2004 11:06:10 AM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <hucker@clara.co.uk>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Sat, 22 May 2004
17:49:16 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
And in the absence of a strong government, tribal factions began
grabbing what they could. That's where the anarchy comes in. People
were dying from cholera there. Cholera!
The strong shall survive.
OK. I'm a former Airborne Ranger. Ready to be my slave? I'll keep
you on just enough food to work my fields, hobble you so you can't
run, and any sign of rebellion will result in torture.
Does that sound fun?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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23 May 2004 06:13:17 PM |
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 16:06:10 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <hucker@clara.co.uk>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Sat, 22 May 2004
17:49:16 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
And in the absence of a strong government, tribal factions began
grabbing what they could. That's where the anarchy comes in. People
were dying from cholera there. Cholera!
The strong shall survive.
OK. I'm a former Airborne Ranger. Ready to be my slave? I'll keep
you on just enough food to work my fields, hobble you so you can't
run, and any sign of rebellion will result in torture.
Does that sound fun?
No, but it's the way of nature.
--
11 parrots http://www.petersparrots.com
93 silly video clips http://www.insanevideoclips.com
1259 digital photos http://www.petersphotos.com
I went to buy some camoflage trousers the other day but I couldn't find any.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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23 May 2004 09:43:23 PM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <hucker@clara.co.uk>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Mon, 24 May 2004
00:13:17 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Sun, 23 May 2004 16:06:10 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <hucker@clara.co.uk>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Sat, 22 May 2004
17:49:16 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
And in the absence of a strong government, tribal factions began
grabbing what they could. That's where the anarchy comes in. People
were dying from cholera there. Cholera!
The strong shall survive.
OK. I'm a former Airborne Ranger. Ready to be my slave? I'll keep
you on just enough food to work my fields, hobble you so you can't
run, and any sign of rebellion will result in torture.
Does that sound fun?
No, but it's the way of nature.
Amazingly, as a tool using species, we can improve on nature. Take
these computers we're using. Not natural. But we've improved on
nature.
If you are that big a fan of nature's law, head to the Sudan. Anarchy
just the way you like it.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
28 May 2004 04:58:17 PM |
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 02:43:23 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <hucker@clara.co.uk>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Mon, 24 May 2004
00:13:17 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
On Sun, 23 May 2004 16:06:10 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <hucker@clara.co.uk>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Sat, 22 May 2004
17:49:16 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
And in the absence of a strong government, tribal factions began
grabbing what they could. That's where the anarchy comes in. People
were dying from cholera there. Cholera!
The strong shall survive.
OK. I'm a former Airborne Ranger. Ready to be my slave? I'll keep
you on just enough food to work my fields, hobble you so you can't
run, and any sign of rebellion will result in torture.
Does that sound fun?
No, but it's the way of nature.
Amazingly, as a tool using species, we can improve on nature. Take
these computers we're using. Not natural. But we've improved on
nature.
If you are that big a fan of nature's law, head to the Sudan. Anarchy
just the way you like it.
Nature is still required. We mate with people we like the look of. Otherwise we'd all end up ugly bastards.
--
11 parrots http://www.petersparrots.com
93 silly video clips http://www.insanevideoclips.com
1259 digital photos http://www.petersphotos.com
Love is complicated machinery.
But sometimes all you need is a good screw to fix it.
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| User: "cv" |
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16 May 2004 04:03:19 PM |
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not only do you refuse to reproduce you also kill heterosexuals with a well
designed disease
please go to Iraq as soon as possible and wait for the light.
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| User: "Johnathan A." |
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10 May 2004 04:50:54 PM |
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On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:35:00 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:10:01 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
In your opinion.
Or for a lighter retort...
You call yourself gay and you've never tried a sheep?
When have I ever called myself gay? I've been married for 13 years!
Same sex marriages were not legal 13 years ago just as they are not
now. Neither will they ever be.
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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11 May 2004 11:25:11 AM |
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Johnathan A. <jappleseed@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:35:00 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:10:01 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
In your opinion.
Or for a lighter retort...
You call yourself gay and you've never tried a sheep?
When have I ever called myself gay? I've been married for 13 years!
Same sex marriages were not legal 13 years ago just as they are not
now. Neither will they ever be.
The death penalty should be brought in here.
--
I went to a museum that had all the heads and arms from the other museums.
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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10 May 2004 09:42:33 PM |
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Johnathan A. wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:35:00 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:10:01 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
In your opinion.
Or for a lighter retort...
You call yourself gay and you've never tried a sheep?
When have I ever called myself gay? I've been married for 13 years!
Same sex marriages were not legal 13 years ago just as they are not
now. Neither will they ever be.
Get back to us on the 14th of May to retract that lie once the first
same-sex couples have legally married in Mass.
--
+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
+================================================================+
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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11 May 2004 11:23:53 AM |
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L. Michael Roberts <L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
Johnathan A. wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:35:00 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:10:01 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
In your opinion.
Or for a lighter retort...
You call yourself gay and you've never tried a sheep?
When have I ever called myself gay? I've been married for 13 years!
Same sex marriages were not legal 13 years ago just as they are not
now. Neither will they ever be.
Get back to us on the 14th of May to retract that lie once the first
same-sex couples have legally married in Mass.
What is the world coming to?
I would bet you £100.00 that within 10 years paedophilia, animal rape, and all sorts of other perverted practices are encouraged.
--
In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird, people take prozac to make it normal.
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| User: "Holly the Heretic" |
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14 May 2004 06:09:55 AM |
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:23:53 +0100, "Peter Hucker"
<peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote:
L. Michael Roberts <L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
Johnathan A. wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:35:00 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:10:01 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
In your opinion.
Or for a lighter retort...
You call yourself gay and you've never tried a sheep?
When have I ever called myself gay? I've been married for 13 years!
Same sex marriages were not legal 13 years ago just as they are not
now. Neither will they ever be.
Get back to us on the 14th of May to retract that lie once the first
same-sex couples have legally married in Mass.
What is the world coming to?
I would bet you £100.00 that within 10 years paedophilia, animal rape, and all sorts of other perverted practices are encouraged.
£100? You don't sound very convinced. Make it £5000, with a contract
to ensure that you comply, and you have a deal.
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| User: "PGH" |
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14 May 2004 02:30:43 PM |
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Going back to the original statement. Follow this link;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/3714749.stm
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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15 May 2004 02:32:03 AM |
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 11:09:55 +0000 (UTC), Holly the Heretic
<nowhere@nowhere.org> wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:23:53 +0100, "Peter Hucker"
<peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote:
L. Michael Roberts <L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
Johnathan A. wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:35:00 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:10:01 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came
forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
<snip>
When have I ever called myself gay? I've been married for 13 years!
Same sex marriages were not legal 13 years ago just as they are not
now. Neither will they ever be.
Get back to us on the 14th of May to retract that lie once the first
same-sex couples have legally married in Mass.
What is the world coming to?
I would bet you £100.00 that within 10 years paedophilia, animal rape,
and all sorts of other perverted practices are encouraged.
£100? You don't sound very convinced. Make it £5000, with a contract
to ensure that you comply, and you have a deal.
I said £100 cause I didn't trust you to pay up.
--
McMurphy fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a paper bag filled
with vegetable soup.
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| User: "Holly the Heretic" |
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17 May 2004 10:56:00 AM |
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On Sat, 15 May 2004 08:32:03 +0100, "Peter Hucker"
<hucker@clara.co.uk> wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2004 11:09:55 +0000 (UTC), Holly the Heretic
<nowhere@nowhere.org> wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:23:53 +0100, "Peter Hucker"
<peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote:
L. Michael Roberts <L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
Johnathan A. wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:35:00 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:10:01 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came
forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
<snip>
When have I ever called myself gay? I've been married for 13 years!
Same sex marriages were not legal 13 years ago just as they are not
now. Neither will they ever be.
Get back to us on the 14th of May to retract that lie once the first
same-sex couples have legally married in Mass.
What is the world coming to?
I would bet you £100.00 that within 10 years paedophilia, animal rape,
and all sorts of other perverted practices are encouraged.
£100? You don't sound very convinced. Make it £5000, with a contract
to ensure that you comply, and you have a deal.
I said £100 cause I didn't trust you to pay up.
Escrow?
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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17 May 2004 02:31:01 PM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 15:56:00 +0000 (UTC), Holly the Heretic <nowhere@nowhere.org> wrote:
On Sat, 15 May 2004 08:32:03 +0100, "Peter Hucker"
<hucker@clara.co.uk> wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2004 11:09:55 +0000 (UTC), Holly the Heretic
<nowhere@nowhere.org> wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:23:53 +0100, "Peter Hucker"
<peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote:
L. Michael Roberts <L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
Johnathan A. wrote:
<snip>
<snip>
<snip>
Get back to us on the 14th of May to retract that lie once the first
same-sex couples have legally married in Mass.
What is the world coming to?
I would bet you £100.00 that within 10 years paedophilia, animal rape,
and all sorts of other perverted practices are encouraged.
£100? You don't sound very convinced. Make it £5000, with a contract
to ensure that you comply, and you have a deal.
I said £100 cause I didn't trust you to pay up.
Escrow?
Too confusing.
--
11 parrots and increasing, photos at http://www.petersparrots.com
1 gigabyte of my digital photos, http://www.petersphotos.com
The silliest video clips you've ever seen, http://www.insanevideoclips.com
Any woman can have the body of a 21-year-old ... as long as she buys him a few drinks first.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
17 May 2004 09:56:00 PM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com>, braving the raging
storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Mon, 17 May 2004
20:31:01 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
Escrow?
Too confusing.
Too late.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H29422458
(05-17) 17:23 PDT BOSTON (AP) --
"Elated and in some cases incredulous at making history, gays and
lesbians by the dozens exchanged vows and were pronounced "partners
for life" Monday as Massachusetts became the first state to let
same-sex couples marry.
"The nuptials ranged from quick city hall ceremonies to ornate
weddings in downtown Boston churches, complete with champagne and
fancy cakes. Among the touches: matching orange bow ties, rainbow
flags and confetti, the Boston Gay Men's Chorus singing "Marry Us,"
and a special rendition of "Here Come the Brides."
"'When everybody wakes up tomorrow and sees nothing bad happened --
it's the same world it was the day before, there are only more people
that are equal to them -- they're going to see there was nothing to
fear,' Sheldon Goldstein said after obtaining a marriage license. "
It happned. Gays and Lesbians are marrying legally.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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