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"Adam" |
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07 May 2004 11:04:43 PM |
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I'm gay & I have AIDS |
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
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| User: "Adrian" |
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| Title: Re: Gay time bomb |
02 Jun 2004 10:12:05 PM |
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On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 16:37:20 +1000, "Clayton of Sunnybrook Farm"
<cjfat@BLOCKINGOFTHESPAMphonyemail.com> wrote:
"Adrian" <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4hcqb0hghnk4en6l5v1nb8io32ck8oogn1@4ax.com...
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:15:57 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net>
wrote:
"Adrian" <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3p7qb01qg5qlf6n8hsi424aam4ju2c3kk5@4ax.com...
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 12:17:13 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
According to these stats, there were 195,401 people in the United
States
living with HIV infection as of December, 2002. (The AIDS statistics
can
be
disregarded, as they include the number people who died from the
disease.) Of
that number, only 64,331 -- less than 33% -- could be traced
definitely
to
male-with-male sex. The vast majority of HIV infections could be
traced
to
other risk factors or where the cause of infection was not known. That
does
not change the fact that 57,376 people -- more than 29% -- were women,
who
most certainly did not get infected due to male-to-male transmission.
Further, the United States is not the center of the universe. Nor is
it
the
facing the kind of infection rates found in eastern Africa or
countries
in
southeast Asia. countries as diverse as Kenya, South Africa, Thailand
and
Burma, HIV disease is almost exclusively a heterosexual disease. When
straight people are willfully stupid and insist on fucking around
without
protection and without getting tested, they only help to guarantee
that
HIV
will becomes a straight disease in the US.
Of all the risk factors, it is male-male sex that has the highest
total number infected.
Must be using fundie math. It gives what you want rather than what the
numbers say.
64,331 Gay men + 57,376 women gives us 121,707 total
195,401 - 121,707 gives us 73,694 who apparently do not consider
themselves
either gay or women.
Are you implying that these people are lying about sex, gender or
preference?
I'm implying that there are lots of ways to get HIV -- a man from
having sex with another man, a woman form having sex with a man, a
drug user sharing needles and so on.
Of those ways, apparently getting it as a male having sex with a male
is the most likely way to get it.
Tell me...does that brick wall protect you from the wind and the rain as
well as knowledge and understanding? You've been presented with evidence
contradicting your line, but it's just gone straight over your head and you
just keep repeating the same thing!
You fucking dumbass. The evidence THAT I PRESENTED shows if anything
that homosexual sex between males has the highest rate of infection of
HIV. It certainly has the highest numbers. All that has been
presented in response, you weak-minded *****-for-brains, is some
***** "interpretation" of that evidence.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Gay time bomb |
03 Jun 2004 02:24:33 AM |
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"Adrian" <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:m85tb0pnba3344nbafihn5vlsph8180c6s@4ax.com...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 16:37:20 +1000, "Clayton of Sunnybrook Farm"
<cjfat@BLOCKINGOFTHESPAMphonyemail.com> wrote:
"Adrian" <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4hcqb0hghnk4en6l5v1nb8io32ck8oogn1@4ax.com...
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:15:57 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net>
wrote:
"Adrian" <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3p7qb01qg5qlf6n8hsi424aam4ju2c3kk5@4ax.com...
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 12:17:13 -0700, Gregory Gadow
<techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
According to these stats, there were 195,401 people in the United
States
living with HIV infection as of December, 2002. (The AIDS
statistics
can
be
disregarded, as they include the number people who died from the
disease.) Of
that number, only 64,331 -- less than 33% -- could be traced
definitely
to
male-with-male sex. The vast majority of HIV infections could be
traced
to
other risk factors or where the cause of infection was not known.
That
does
not change the fact that 57,376 people -- more than 29% -- were
women,
who
most certainly did not get infected due to male-to-male
transmission.
Further, the United States is not the center of the universe. Nor
is
it
the
facing the kind of infection rates found in eastern Africa or
countries
in
southeast Asia. countries as diverse as Kenya, South Africa,
Thailand
and
Burma, HIV disease is almost exclusively a heterosexual disease.
When
straight people are willfully stupid and insist on fucking around
without
protection and without getting tested, they only help to guarantee
that
HIV
will becomes a straight disease in the US.
Of all the risk factors, it is male-male sex that has the highest
total number infected.
Must be using fundie math. It gives what you want rather than what the
numbers say.
64,331 Gay men + 57,376 women gives us 121,707 total
195,401 - 121,707 gives us 73,694 who apparently do not consider
themselves
either gay or women.
Are you implying that these people are lying about sex, gender or
preference?
I'm implying that there are lots of ways to get HIV -- a man from
having sex with another man, a woman form having sex with a man, a
drug user sharing needles and so on.
Of those ways, apparently getting it as a male having sex with a male
is the most likely way to get it.
Tell me...does that brick wall protect you from the wind and the rain as
well as knowledge and understanding? You've been presented with evidence
contradicting your line, but it's just gone straight over your head and
you
just keep repeating the same thing!
You fucking dumbass. The evidence THAT I PRESENTED shows if anything
that homosexual sex between males has the highest rate of infection of
HIV. It certainly has the highest numbers. All that has been
presented in response, you weak-minded *****-for-brains, is some
***** "interpretation" of that evidence.
Not unless 64,331 is greater than 73,694. It wasn't when I took math but
I'll be happy to trade dollar bills in that ratio if you want.
Your evidence shows an order of men, gay men and women. HIV among lesbians
is a *VERY* small number so most of the women are straight and guess where
they get it?.
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| User: "Adrian" |
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| Title: Re: Gay time bomb |
03 Jun 2004 03:15:30 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 07:24:33 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"Adrian" <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:m85tb0pnba3344nbafihn5vlsph8180c6s@4ax.com...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 16:37:20 +1000, "Clayton of Sunnybrook Farm"
<cjfat@BLOCKINGOFTHESPAMphonyemail.com> wrote:
"Adrian" <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4hcqb0hghnk4en6l5v1nb8io32ck8oogn1@4ax.com...
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:15:57 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net>
wrote:
"Adrian" <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3p7qb01qg5qlf6n8hsi424aam4ju2c3kk5@4ax.com...
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 12:17:13 -0700, Gregory Gadow
<techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
According to these stats, there were 195,401 people in the United
States
living with HIV infection as of December, 2002. (The AIDS
statistics
can
be
disregarded, as they include the number people who died from the
disease.) Of
that number, only 64,331 -- less than 33% -- could be traced
definitely
to
male-with-male sex. The vast majority of HIV infections could be
traced
to
other risk factors or where the cause of infection was not known.
That
does
not change the fact that 57,376 people -- more than 29% -- were
women,
who
most certainly did not get infected due to male-to-male
transmission.
Further, the United States is not the center of the universe. Nor
is
it
the
facing the kind of infection rates found in eastern Africa or
countries
in
southeast Asia. countries as diverse as Kenya, South Africa,
Thailand
and
Burma, HIV disease is almost exclusively a heterosexual disease.
When
straight people are willfully stupid and insist on fucking around
without
protection and without getting tested, they only help to guarantee
that
HIV
will becomes a straight disease in the US.
Of all the risk factors, it is male-male sex that has the highest
total number infected.
Must be using fundie math. It gives what you want rather than what the
numbers say.
64,331 Gay men + 57,376 women gives us 121,707 total
195,401 - 121,707 gives us 73,694 who apparently do not consider
themselves
either gay or women.
Are you implying that these people are lying about sex, gender or
preference?
I'm implying that there are lots of ways to get HIV -- a man from
having sex with another man, a woman form having sex with a man, a
drug user sharing needles and so on.
Of those ways, apparently getting it as a male having sex with a male
is the most likely way to get it.
Tell me...does that brick wall protect you from the wind and the rain as
well as knowledge and understanding? You've been presented with evidence
contradicting your line, but it's just gone straight over your head and
you
just keep repeating the same thing!
You fucking dumbass. The evidence THAT I PRESENTED shows if anything
that homosexual sex between males has the highest rate of infection of
HIV. It certainly has the highest numbers. All that has been
presented in response, you weak-minded *****-for-brains, is some
***** "interpretation" of that evidence.
Not unless 64,331 is greater than 73,694. It wasn't when I took math but
I'll be happy to trade dollar bills in that ratio if you want.
You fucking idiot -- 73,694 is not the numbers from one cause. If you
look at any given cause of acquiring HIV, homosexual sex between males
produces the greatest numbers of new infections.
Your evidence shows an order of men, gay men and women. HIV among lesbians
is a *VERY* small number so most of the women are straight and guess where
they get it?.
Heterosexual contact accounts for a little more than half of the
infections that homosexual contact between men does. Now, consider
the population of heterosexuals versus that of gay men. You will find
that the infections of gay men not only out number those of
heterosexuals, but the actual _rate_ of infection must even further
outpace that of heterosexuals.
In fact, there were 64,331 new infections by gay male sex while there
were only 10,689 males infected through heterosexual sex. Let us
suppose that 25% of men are gay. That implies that the rate at which
gay men are infected by gay sex is just over 18 times that of men
infected through heterosexual sex.
Doing a similar comparison to women (assuming that women are 50% of
the population), the rate of infection of men through gay sex is
almost 8 times that of women through heterosexual sex.
That is why it is, in fact, "a gay man's disease" even though not just
gay men get it. The rate at which gay men get it through gay male sex
is much higher than the alternative.
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Gay time bomb |
02 Jun 2004 10:40:46 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 03:12:05 GMT, Adrian
<adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote:
You fucking dumbass. The evidence THAT I PRESENTED shows if anything
that homosexual sex between males has the highest rate of infection of
HIV.
The evidence you got from... your illusion? Your Grand Kleagle?
Unsafe sex has the highest rates of infection. It doesn't prefer gays
or straights.
It certainly has the highest numbers.
Only in the USA, and even there that figure is dwindling. Straights
are catching up.
All that has been
presented in response, you weak-minded *****-for-brains, is some
***** "interpretation" of that evidence.
Look who's talking...
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Gay time bomb |
03 Jun 2004 02:28:03 AM |
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"Jos Flachs" <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message
news:v67tb05kaf2r2q7qjmqe9nmam8v6n0kb4e@4ax.com...
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 03:12:05 GMT, Adrian
<adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote:
You fucking dumbass. The evidence THAT I PRESENTED shows if anything
that homosexual sex between males has the highest rate of infection of
HIV.
The evidence you got from... your illusion? Your Grand Kleagle?
Unsafe sex has the highest rates of infection. It doesn't prefer gays
or straights.
It certainly has the highest numbers.
Only in the USA, and even there that figure is dwindling. Straights
are catching up.
They are but the generation gap has caught up with the problem.
"Only old people get it." is a common phrase.
Unprotected sex is on the rise and I fear that this upcoming generation will
have to watch a lot of friends die before they realize what is happening.
Like the young becoming soldiers only war can teach them that it is as bad
as some of their elders said.
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| User: "Adrian" |
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| Title: Re: Gay time bomb |
03 Jun 2004 02:58:26 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:40:46 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 03:12:05 GMT, Adrian
<adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote:
You fucking dumbass. The evidence THAT I PRESENTED shows if anything
that homosexual sex between males has the highest rate of infection of
HIV.
The evidence you got from... your illusion? Your Grand Kleagle?
Unsafe sex has the highest rates of infection. It doesn't prefer gays
or straights.
Look it up you dipshit ***** head:
http://www.avert.org/about.htm
It certainly has the highest numbers.
Only in the USA, and even there that figure is dwindling. Straights
are catching up.
All that has been
presented in response, you weak-minded *****-for-brains, is some
***** "interpretation" of that evidence.
Look who's talking...
You're a dumbass. I get my numbers from an international AIDs charity
based in the UK. Why don't you do your homework next time
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Gay time bomb |
01 Jun 2004 10:12:39 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:51:31 GMT, Adrian
<adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:15:57 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net>
wrote:
"Adrian" <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3p7qb01qg5qlf6n8hsi424aam4ju2c3kk5@4ax.com...
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 12:17:13 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
According to these stats, there were 195,401 people in the United States
living with HIV infection as of December, 2002. (The AIDS statistics can
be
disregarded, as they include the number people who died from the
disease.) Of
that number, only 64,331 -- less than 33% -- could be traced definitely
to
male-with-male sex. The vast majority of HIV infections could be traced
to
other risk factors or where the cause of infection was not known. That
does
not change the fact that 57,376 people -- more than 29% -- were women,
who
most certainly did not get infected due to male-to-male transmission.
Further, the United States is not the center of the universe. Nor is it
the
facing the kind of infection rates found in eastern Africa or countries
in
southeast Asia. countries as diverse as Kenya, South Africa, Thailand and
Burma, HIV disease is almost exclusively a heterosexual disease. When
straight people are willfully stupid and insist on fucking around without
protection and without getting tested, they only help to guarantee that
HIV
will becomes a straight disease in the US.
Of all the risk factors, it is male-male sex that has the highest
total number infected.
Must be using fundie math. It gives what you want rather than what the
numbers say.
64,331 Gay men + 57,376 women gives us 121,707 total
195,401 - 121,707 gives us 73,694 who apparently do not consider themselves
either gay or women.
Are you implying that these people are lying about sex, gender or
preference?
I'm implying that there are lots of ways to get HIV -- a man from
having sex with another man, a woman form having sex with a man, a
drug user sharing needles and so on.
Of those ways, apparently getting it as a male having sex with a male
is the most likely way to get it.
I thought the overwhelming majority of Aids victims are African males
who got it from female prostitutes?
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| User: "John M Price PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Gay time bomb |
01 Jun 2004 08:35:31 PM |
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In alt.atheism article <3p7qb01qg5qlf6n8hsi424aam4ju2c3kk5@4ax.com> Adrian <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote:
: Of all the risk factors, it is male-male sex that has the highest
: At any rate, clearly, male homosexual sex is the biggest risk factor
: (in America) for contracting HIV.
Iff one of the partners is already infected. This is not a disease that
happens de novo. It follows all the basic rules of viral infections. YOu
can have all the homosexual sex you want with partners free of the
disease, and the disease will not magically appear.
(c) 2004. Copyright, John M. Price, PhD. All Rights Reserved.
Contents may not be republished in any form or medium without prior
written consent of the author with the express and only exception of
followup postings limited to and within usenet.
--
John M. Price, PhD
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP!
Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683
There is perhaps no phenomenon that contains so much destructve feeling as
moral indignation, which permits envy or hate to be acted out under the
guise of virtue.
- Erich Fromm
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| User: "Adrian" |
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| Title: Re: Gay time bomb |
01 Jun 2004 08:53:22 PM |
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On 02 Jun 2004 01:35:31 GMT, John M Price PhD <>
wrote:
In alt.atheism article <3p7qb01qg5qlf6n8hsi424aam4ju2c3kk5@4ax.com> Adrian <adriansdurham@houston.rr.com> wrote:
: Of all the risk factors, it is male-male sex that has the highest
: At any rate, clearly, male homosexual sex is the biggest risk factor
: (in America) for contracting HIV.
Iff one of the partners is already infected. This is not a disease that
happens de novo. It follows all the basic rules of viral infections. YOu
can have all the homosexual sex you want with partners free of the
disease, and the disease will not magically appear.
(c) 2004. Copyright, John M. Price, PhD. All Rights Reserved.
Contents may not be republished in any form or medium without prior
written consent of the author with the express and only exception of
followup postings limited to and within usenet.
--
John M. Price, PhD
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP!
Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683
There is perhaps no phenomenon that contains so much destructve feeling as
moral indignation, which permits envy or hate to be acted out under the
guise of virtue.
- Erich Fromm
Actually, it's opposite -- moral indifference and apathy -- is far
more destructive and possibly even more powerful.
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| User: "Holly the Heretic" |
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| Title: Re: Gay time bomb |
02 Jun 2004 07:37:08 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 12:17:13 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
Adrian wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 06:31:59 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
Jos Flachs wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 01:39:16 GMT, Lucius Introini
<lucius.introini@hotmail.com> wrote:
A third of gay men with the HIV virus do not know they are infected,
research has suggested.
What about straight men and women being HIV+?
A team at the Royal Free and University College Medical School
gathered saliva samples from 1,206 men, they report in Sexually
Transmitted Infections journal.
Some 10.9% were positive for HIV, and in a third of these cases the
HIV had not been diagnosed.
The researchers also warn that many HIV-positive and other gay men
report having unprotected sex.
What about straight men and women being HIV+?
Because of the incorrect assumption that HIV is, somehow, a disease that
infects only gay men, I would expect that the number of women and
straight men with HIV infection who do not know is much, much higher.
Every gay man I know gets tested for HIV pretty regularly. I have many
straight friends, most of whom are pretty promiscuous, who have never
been tested at all.
As they should since homosexual contact between men seems to be the
number one way to get it in America:
http://www.avert.org/usastatg.htm
According to these stats, there were 195,401 people in the United States
living with HIV infection as of December, 2002. (The AIDS statistics can be
disregarded, as they include the number people who died from the disease.) Of
that number, only 64,331 -- less than 33% -- could be traced definitely to
male-with-male sex. The vast majority of HIV infections could be traced to
other risk factors or where the cause of infection was not known. That does
not change the fact that 57,376 people -- more than 29% -- were women, who
most certainly did not get infected due to male-to-male transmission.
Further, the United States is not the center of the universe. Nor is it the
facing the kind of infection rates found in eastern Africa or countries in
southeast Asia. countries as diverse as Kenya, South Africa, Thailand and
Burma, HIV disease is almost exclusively a heterosexual disease. When
straight people are willfully stupid and insist on fucking around without
protection and without getting tested, they only help to guarantee that HIV
will becomes a straight disease in the US.
What do you propose to do about this 'fucking around' if you get
elected?
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| User: "jose soplar" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
08 May 2004 03:20:56 PM |
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Adam <me6@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<5qmo909fv68k6r0kvbgnshm7q2ivpe6vsm@4ax.com>...
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
Good! Spreads your AIDs around to all your queer friends. AIDs is
Gods way of eliminating the perverted from our gene pool.
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| User: "Clay Colwell" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
08 May 2004 11:18:23 PM |
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(jose soplar) wrote in message news:<9312d9f1.0405081220.257cc479@posting.google.com>...
Adam <me6@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<5qmo909fv68k6r0kvbgnshm7q2ivpe6vsm@4ax.com>...
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
Good! Spreads your AIDs around to all your queer friends. AIDs is
Gods way of eliminating the perverted from our gene pool.
Which means that your God's got really shitty aim.
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
10 May 2004 10:37:25 AM |
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Clay Colwell <eris@io.com> wrote:
josesoplar@aol.com (jose soplar) wrote in message news:<9312d9f1.0405081220.257cc479@posting.google.com>...
Adam <me6@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<5qmo909fv68k6r0kvbgnshm7q2ivpe6vsm@4ax.com>...
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
Good! Spreads your AIDs around to all your queer friends. AIDs is
Gods way of eliminating the perverted from our gene pool.
Which means that your God's got really shitty aim.
Unintentional double entendre?
--
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
08 May 2004 06:06:52 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on 8 May 2004 13:20:56 -0700, a stranger called
by some (jose soplar) came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism
Adam <me6@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<5qmo909fv68k6r0kvbgnshm7q2ivpe6vsm@4ax.com>...
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
Good! Spreads your AIDs around to all your queer friends. AIDs is
Gods way of eliminating the perverted from our gene pool.
So you admit that being gay is genetic? Fantastic! So much for the
"it's a lifestyle choice" arguments.
Oh, and by the way.. this would be a good plan if gay people bred with
each other. Since you obviously have no idea about sexual
reproduction, let me explain.. it don't work that way.
BTW: Most of the people with AIDS worldwide are straight.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
08 May 2004 06:12:16 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on 8 May 2004 13:20:56 -0700, a stranger called
by some (jose soplar) came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism
Adam <me6@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<5qmo909fv68k6r0kvbgnshm7q2ivpe6vsm@4ax.com>...
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
Good! Spreads your AIDs around to all your queer friends. AIDs is
Gods way of eliminating the perverted from our gene pool.
So you admit that being gay is genetic? Fantastic! So much for the
"it's a lifestyle choice" arguments.
Oh, and by the way.. this would be a good plan if gay people bred with
each other. Since you obviously have no idea about sexual
reproduction, let me explain.. it don't work that way.
Says who? Say a 20% gay man and a 20% lesbian woman have a kid, the kid will quite likely be gay, no?
BTW: Most of the people with AIDS worldwide are straight.
Only cause the plan fucked up and the disease escaped from the intended target - kinda like mixamitosis.
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I got the strangest recording when I called the phone company the other day.
It said, "You have been connected to the correct department on the first try. This is against company policy. Please hang up and redial."
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09 May 2004 09:35:06 AM |
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"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message news:<opr7peqqndrkma46@blue>...
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on 8 May 2004 13:20:56 -0700, a stranger called
by some (jose soplar) came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism
Adam <me6@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<5qmo909fv68k6r0kvbgnshm7q2ivpe6vsm@4ax.com>...
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
Good! Spreads your AIDs around to all your queer friends. AIDs is
Gods way of eliminating the perverted from our gene pool.
So you admit that being gay is genetic? Fantastic! So much for the
"it's a lifestyle choice" arguments.
Oh, and by the way.. this would be a good plan if gay people bred with
each other. Since you obviously have no idea about sexual
reproduction, let me explain.. it don't work that way.
Says who? Say a 20% gay man and a 20% lesbian woman have a kid, the kid will quite likely be gay, no?
BTW: Most of the people with AIDS worldwide are straight.
Only cause the plan fucked up and the disease escaped from the intended target - kinda like mixamitosis.
If God planned to use it to eliminate homosexuals,it was POORLY
designed for that purpose...and He doesn't make mistakes. If also
negates the fact that folks like you make homosexuals "act straight",
and want to get themselves into sham marriages and have kids, thereby
adding their "genetic material" to the gene pool once again.
If AIDS were a weapon designed to destroy homosexuals, God had nothing
to do with it, more likely that it was hatched by an
imperfect-as-a-human-but-able-minded bigot bent on destroying them (
conspiracy theory! [cue spooky music])
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10 May 2004 10:55:57 AM |
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Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message news:<opr7peqqndrkma46@blue>...
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on 8 May 2004 13:20:56 -0700, a stranger called
by some (jose soplar) came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism
Adam <me6@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<5qmo909fv68k6r0kvbgnshm7q2ivpe6vsm@4ax.com>...
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
Good! Spreads your AIDs around to all your queer friends. AIDs is
Gods way of eliminating the perverted from our gene pool.
So you admit that being gay is genetic? Fantastic! So much for the
"it's a lifestyle choice" arguments.
Oh, and by the way.. this would be a good plan if gay people bred with
each other. Since you obviously have no idea about sexual
reproduction, let me explain.. it don't work that way.
Says who? Say a 20% gay man and a 20% lesbian woman have a kid, the kid will quite likely be gay, no?
BTW: Most of the people with AIDS worldwide are straight.
Only cause the plan fucked up and the disease escaped from the intended target - kinda like mixamitosis.
If God planned to use it to eliminate homosexuals,it was POORLY
designed for that purpose...and He doesn't make mistakes.
God doesn't exist. You believe in santa claus aswell?
If also negates the fact that folks like you make homosexuals "act straight",
and want to get themselves into sham marriages and have kids, thereby
adding their "genetic material" to the gene pool once again.
No I'd prefer you died.
If AIDS were a weapon designed to destroy homosexuals, God had nothing
to do with it, more likely that it was hatched by an
imperfect-as-a-human-but-able-minded bigot bent on destroying them (
conspiracy theory! [cue spooky music])
Beta test version. Stand by for the real thing.
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"Boy, will I give YOU a haircut!" said Tom barbarously.
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10 May 2004 08:26:41 PM |
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"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message news:<opr7sjvjq7rkma46@blue>...
Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message news:<opr7peqqndrkma46@blue>...
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on 8 May 2004 13:20:56 -0700, a stranger called
by some (jose soplar) came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism
Adam <me6@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<5qmo909fv68k6r0kvbgnshm7q2ivpe6vsm@4ax.com>...
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
Good! Spreads your AIDs around to all your queer friends. AIDs is
Gods way of eliminating the perverted from our gene pool.
So you admit that being gay is genetic? Fantastic! So much for the
"it's a lifestyle choice" arguments.
Oh, and by the way.. this would be a good plan if gay people bred with
each other. Since you obviously have no idea about sexual
reproduction, let me explain.. it don't work that way.
Says who? Say a 20% gay man and a 20% lesbian woman have a kid, the kid will quite likely be gay, no?
BTW: Most of the people with AIDS worldwide are straight.
Only cause the plan fucked up and the disease escaped from the intended target - kinda like mixamitosis.
If God planned to use it to eliminate homosexuals,it was POORLY
designed for that purpose...and He doesn't make mistakes.
God doesn't exist. You believe in santa claus as well?
You are entitled to your opinion. I can appreciate that.
If also negates the fact that folks like you make homosexuals "act straight",
and want to get themselves into sham marriages and have kids, thereby
adding their "genetic material" to the gene pool once again.
No I'd prefer you died.
Wow, where did that come from? You don't even know me! That's really
shocking that you would say such a thing. Well I don't plan on
getting into a sham marriage, nor do I plan on dying any time soon,
but it could happen anytime.
If AIDS were a weapon designed to destroy homosexuals, God had nothing
to do with it, more likely that it was hatched by an
imperfect-as-a-human-but-able-minded bigot bent on destroying them (
conspiracy theory! [cue spooky music])
Beta test version. Stand by for the real thing.
Spooky music indeed! Even if all homosexuals alive today were to
instantaneously disappear from the face of the Earth, within about
5-15 years there would be another set of them, and within a generation
or two they would be back up in numbers as they were before such
disappearance.
Anyone bigoted enough to invent a virus to destroy homosexuals would
have a hard time propagating it, especially since they believe that
homosexuals just spend all their time having sex with each other, a
laughable fallacy. Sure, it would probably affect a great deal of a
certain *segment* of the homosexual population, but, like AIDS, it
leaves vast amounts untouched due to differences in lifestyle, social
habits, economic status, to name a few.
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14 May 2004 03:24:37 PM |
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On 10 May 2004 18:26:41 -0700, Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:<opr7sjvjq7rkma46@blue>...
Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:<opr7peqqndrkma46@blue>...
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
So you admit that being gay is genetic? Fantastic! So much for the
"it's a lifestyle choice" arguments.
Oh, and by the way.. this would be a good plan if gay people bred
with
each other. Since you obviously have no idea about sexual
reproduction, let me explain.. it don't work that way.
Says who? Say a 20% gay man and a 20% lesbian woman have a kid, the
kid will quite likely be gay, no?
BTW: Most of the people with AIDS worldwide are straight.
Only cause the plan fucked up and the disease escaped from the
intended target - kinda like mixamitosis.
If God planned to use it to eliminate homosexuals,it was POORLY
designed for that purpose...and He doesn't make mistakes.
God doesn't exist. You believe in santa claus as well?
You are entitled to your opinion. I can appreciate that.
Do you believe in santa then?
If also negates the fact that folks like you make homosexuals "act
straight",
and want to get themselves into sham marriages and have kids, thereby
adding their "genetic material" to the gene pool once again.
No I'd prefer you died.
Wow, where did that come from? You don't even know me! That's really
shocking that you would say such a thing. Well I don't plan on
getting into a sham marriage, nor do I plan on dying any time soon,
but it could happen anytime.
What I meant was I'd prefer homos did not exist than pretended to be
straight and get into sham marriages.
If AIDS were a weapon designed to destroy homosexuals, God had nothing
to do with it, more likely that it was hatched by an
imperfect-as-a-human-but-able-minded bigot bent on destroying them (
conspiracy theory! [cue spooky music])
Beta test version. Stand by for the real thing.
Spooky music indeed! Even if all homosexuals alive today were to
instantaneously disappear from the face of the Earth, within about
5-15 years there would be another set of them, and within a generation
or two they would be back up in numbers as they were before such
disappearance.
Pity. But maybe one day you can buy anti-homo pills for a penny each just
like you get paracetamol now.
Anyone bigoted enough to invent a virus to destroy homosexuals would
have a hard time propagating it, especially since they believe that
homosexuals just spend all their time having sex with each other, a
laughable fallacy. Sure, it would probably affect a great deal of a
certain *segment* of the homosexual population, but, like AIDS, it
leaves vast amounts untouched due to differences in lifestyle, social
habits, economic status, to name a few.
Well if they dont shag all the time and don't prance about like Julian
Clary, then I don't really have a problem with tham.
--
Why are they called buildings, when they're already finished? Shouldn't
they be called builts?
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
15 May 2004 04:21:02 AM |
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"Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com> wrote in message news:<opr70azbxcmk2j66@blue>...
On 10 May 2004 18:26:41 -0700, Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:<opr7sjvjq7rkma46@blue>...
Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:<opr7peqqndrkma46@blue>...
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
So you admit that being gay is genetic? Fantastic! So much for the
"it's a lifestyle choice" arguments.
Oh, and by the way.. this would be a good plan if gay people bred
with
each other. Since you obviously have no idea about sexual
reproduction, let me explain.. it don't work that way.
Says who? Say a 20% gay man and a 20% lesbian woman have a kid, the
kid will quite likely be gay, no?
BTW: Most of the people with AIDS worldwide are straight.
Only cause the plan fucked up and the disease escaped from the
intended target - kinda like mixamitosis.
If God planned to use it to eliminate homosexuals,it was POORLY
designed for that purpose...and He doesn't make mistakes.
God doesn't exist. You believe in santa claus as well?
You are entitled to your opinion. I can appreciate that.
Do you believe in santa then?
I believe in the *idea* or *spirit* of Santa, not the physical though.
Do you have ill will towards people that believe in God?
If also negates the fact that folks like you make homosexuals "act
straight",
and want to get themselves into sham marriages and have kids, thereby
adding their "genetic material" to the gene pool once again.
No I'd prefer you died.
Wow, where did that come from? You don't even know me! That's really
shocking that you would say such a thing. Well I don't plan on
getting into a sham marriage, nor do I plan on dying any time soon,
but it could happen anytime.
What I meant was I'd prefer homos did not exist than pretended to be
straight and get into sham marriages.
That's not very nice in my opinion. Just because you don't like them,
you would prefer them to not exist period. Many homosexuals are
wonderful people, and you probably wouldn't even know some unless they
identified themselves to you as such. They don't hurt you, they should
be allowed to exist in their "natural" state and be permitted to form
stable, legal relationships - that is better for the common good.
They should be free from denigration, they have just as much right to
exist "naturally" as you do.
If AIDS were a weapon designed to destroy homosexuals, God had nothing
to do with it, more likely that it was hatched by an
imperfect-as-a-human-but-able-minded bigot bent on destroying them (
conspiracy theory! [cue spooky music])
Beta test version. Stand by for the real thing.
Spooky music indeed! Even if all homosexuals alive today were to
instantaneously disappear from the face of the Earth, within about
5-15 years there would be another set of them, and within a generation
or two they would be back up in numbers as they were before such
disappearance.
Pity. But maybe one day you can buy anti-homo pills for a penny each just
like you get paracetamol now.
Strange, but possibly true. I still don't know if that would be a
good idea, upsetting the "natural" balance of the hetero/homo ratio
could cause unforseen problems with heterosexual coupling. (available
partners vs sex ratio)
Anyone bigoted enough to invent a virus to destroy homosexuals would
have a hard time propagating it, especially since they believe that
homosexuals just spend all their time having sex with each other, a
laughable fallacy. Sure, it would probably affect a great deal of a
certain *segment* of the homosexual population, but, like AIDS, it
leaves vast amounts untouched due to differences in lifestyle, social
habits, economic status, to name a few.
Well if they dont shag all the time and don't prance about like Julian
Clary, then I don't really have a problem with tham.
Generally, they don't. Sure some do, just like some heteros do.
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15 May 2004 03:20:19 PM |
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On 15 May 2004 02:21:02 -0700, Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Peter Hucker" <peter@hucker.plus.com> wrote in message news:<opr70azbxcmk2j66@blue>...
On 10 May 2004 18:26:41 -0700, Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:<opr7sjvjq7rkma46@blue>...
Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
If God planned to use it to eliminate homosexuals,it was POORLY
designed for that purpose...and He doesn't make mistakes.
God doesn't exist. You believe in santa claus as well?
You are entitled to your opinion. I can appreciate that.
Do you believe in santa then?
I believe in the *idea* or *spirit* of Santa, not the physical though.
Why?
Do you have ill will towards people that believe in God?
I think they are dense.
If also negates the fact that folks like you make homosexuals "act
straight",
and want to get themselves into sham marriages and have kids, thereby
adding their "genetic material" to the gene pool once again.
No I'd prefer you died.
Wow, where did that come from? You don't even know me! That's really
shocking that you would say such a thing. Well I don't plan on
getting into a sham marriage, nor do I plan on dying any time soon,
but it could happen anytime.
What I meant was I'd prefer homos did not exist than pretended to be
straight and get into sham marriages.
That's not very nice in my opinion. Just because you don't like them,
you would prefer them to not exist period. Many homosexuals are
wonderful people, and you probably wouldn't even know some unless they
identified themselves to you as such. They don't hurt you, they should
be allowed to exist in their "natural" state
ROTFPMSL! You sound like you are referring to some freak animal. You are supposed to be arguing against that point!
and be permitted to form
stable, legal relationships - that is better for the common good.
They should be free from denigration, they have just as much right to
exist "naturally" as you do.
Reservations is what we need - like for them there injuns!
If AIDS were a weapon designed to destroy homosexuals, God had nothing
to do with it, more likely that it was hatched by an
imperfect-as-a-human-but-able-minded bigot bent on destroying them (
conspiracy theory! [cue spooky music])
Beta test version. Stand by for the real thing.
Spooky music indeed! Even if all homosexuals alive today were to
instantaneously disappear from the face of the Earth, within about
5-15 years there would be another set of them, and within a generation
or two they would be back up in numbers as they were before such
disappearance.
Pity. But maybe one day you can buy anti-homo pills for a penny each just
like you get paracetamol now.
Strange, but possibly true. I still don't know if that would be a
good idea, upsetting the "natural" balance of the hetero/homo ratio
could cause unforseen problems with heterosexual coupling. (available
partners vs sex ratio)
What do you mean? The only thing I can think that you mean is more lezzos would take the pills than poofs and you'd get too many wommen for men. But this happened after the world wars.
Anyone bigoted enough to invent a virus to destroy homosexuals would
have a hard time propagating it, especially since they believe that
homosexuals just spend all their time having sex with each other, a
laughable fallacy. Sure, it would probably affect a great deal of a
certain *segment* of the homosexual population, but, like AIDS, it
leaves vast amounts untouched due to differences in lifestyle, social
habits, economic status, to name a few.
Well if they dont shag all the time and don't prance about like Julian
Clary, then I don't really have a problem with tham.
Generally, they don't. Sure some do, just like some heteros do.
A hetero speaking like Julian Clary?
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Hickory dickory dock, three mice ran up the clock. The clock struck one, and the others got away with minor injuries.
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08 May 2004 09:04:31 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 May 2004 00:12:16 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Oh, and by the way.. this would be a good plan if gay people bred with
each other. Since you obviously have no idea about sexual
reproduction, let me explain.. it don't work that way.
Says who? Say a 20% gay man and a 20% lesbian woman have a kid, the kid will quite likely be gay, no?
Nope. Oh, and being homosexual is an all-or-nothing affair. Been
bisexual is another thing entirely.
In fact, studies have shown that the children of homosexuals are no
more likely to be gay than any other child.
BTW: Most of the people with AIDS worldwide are straight.
Only cause the plan fucked up and the disease escaped from the intended target - kinda like mixamitosis.
Ah, the PLAN. Of course, there's no way that this is simply SIV that
mutated and jumped to a new host. No way at all, because we all know
that viruses never, ever mutate. A-chooo! Excuse me, I have a spring
cold.
If you are claiming that HIV is a bioweapon, whoever designed it
should be fired. It's hard to catch, incredibly fragile, and doesn't
kill its host for years. With care, mortality drops until most people
with HIV are living well, and might well out live me with my Hodgkin's
Disease.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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10 May 2004 10:34:34 AM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 May 2004 00:12:16 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Oh, and by the way.. this would be a good plan if gay people bred with
each other. Since you obviously have no idea about sexual
reproduction, let me explain.. it don't work that way.
Says who? Say a 20% gay man and a 20% lesbian woman have a kid, the kid will quite likely be gay, no?
Nope. Oh, and being homosexual is an all-or-nothing affair. Been
bisexual is another thing entirely.
*****. You could prefer women to men bu tlike the odd bloke. This would make you 75% straight 25% gay. You could like both equally - a bisexual.
In fact, studies have shown that the children of homosexuals are no
more likely to be gay than any other child.
Must be bad upbringing then.
BTW: Most of the people with AIDS worldwide are straight.
Only cause the plan fucked up and the disease escaped from the intended target - kinda like mixamitosis.
Ah, the PLAN. Of course, there's no way that this is simply SIV that
mutated and jumped to a new host. No way at all, because we all know
that viruses never, ever mutate. A-chooo! Excuse me, I have a spring
cold.
If you are claiming that HIV is a bioweapon, whoever designed it
should be fired. It's hard to catch, incredibly fragile, and doesn't
kill its host for years. With care, mortality drops until most people
with HIV are living well, and might well out live me with my Hodgkin's
Disease.
Maybe it was the prototype. Never heard of beta testing?
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Confuscious say: "Man who sit on tack get point!"
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10 May 2004 02:04:18 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 16:34:34 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Nope. Oh, and being homosexual is an all-or-nothing affair. Been
bisexual is another thing entirely.
*****. You could prefer women to men bu tlike the odd bloke. This would make you 75% straight 25% gay. You could like both equally - a bisexual.
Being bisexual, I can tell you that I've never met a single person who
straddled the fence like that. I'm bi, and prefer women over men.
In fact, studies have shown that the children of homosexuals are no
more likely to be gay than any other child.
Must be bad upbringing then.
Ah. Like the children of Randal Terry, Phyllis Shaffley, and Vice
President Richard Cheney.
Gays come from all sorts of households, in all sorts of economic
strata.
If you are claiming that HIV is a bioweapon, whoever designed it
should be fired. It's hard to catch, incredibly fragile, and doesn't
kill its host for years. With care, mortality drops until most people
with HIV are living well, and might well out live me with my Hodgkin's
Disease.
Maybe it was the prototype. Never heard of beta testing?
You do that in a lab, moron. Early release of a pathogen would give a
head start on finding a cure. It'd be like the Japanese making a
couple of dry runs over Pearl Harbor.
Then, of course, there's the slight problem that the disease doesn't
just target gays. It targets humans with blood... which is most of
us, I'm reliably informed.
*Any* contact between the bodily fluids of an infected person and the
fluids of another can cause infection. The chances of infection are
slight, but with repeated exposures the chances go up. Which is why
the first big populations hit by AIDS were the gay population (still
enjoying the sexual revolution), IV drug users, and Haitian immigrants
who sold blood on a regular basis.
Learn some facts.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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10 May 2004 02:14:01 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 16:34:34 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Nope. Oh, and being homosexual is an all-or-nothing affair. Been
bisexual is another thing entirely.
*****. You could prefer women to men bu tlike the odd bloke. This would make you 75% straight 25% gay. You could like both equally - a bisexual.
Being bisexual, I can tell you that I've never met a single person who
straddled the fence like that. I'm bi, and prefer women over men.
You have only objected to my example, but proved my point - there are different levels of homosexuality. Presumably there are some (in fact I have seen one post in another group) that has no preference.
In fact, studies have shown that the children of homosexuals are no
more likely to be gay than any other child.
Must be bad upbringing then.
Ah. Like the children of Randal Terry, Phyllis Shaffley, and Vice
President Richard Cheney.
Gays come from all sorts of households, in all sorts of economic
strata.
Have you done an indepth study on how these people bring up their children?
If you are claiming that HIV is a bioweapon, whoever designed it
should be fired. It's hard to catch, incredibly fragile, and doesn't
kill its host for years. With care, mortality drops until most people
with HIV are living well, and might well out live me with my Hodgkin's
Disease.
Maybe it was the prototype. Never heard of beta testing?
You do that in a lab, moron. Early release of a pathogen would give a
head start on finding a cure. It'd be like the Japanese making a
couple of dry runs over Pearl Harbor.
They would if they were careful - it could have leaked out - perhaps there was a closet homosexual working there!
Then, of course, there's the slight problem that the disease doesn't
just target gays. It targets humans with blood... which is most of
us, I'm reliably informed.
Well it wasn't completed yet!
*Any* contact between the bodily fluids of an infected person and the
fluids of another can cause infection. The chances of infection are
slight, but with repeated exposures the chances go up.
But isn't sex with an HIV person VERY likely to transmit? Hence it's pretty reliable.
Which is why
the first big populations hit by AIDS were the gay population (still
enjoying the sexual revolution), IV drug users,
I don't mind drug users, but perhaps they were a target too.
and Haitian immigrants who sold blood on a regular basis.
Learn some facts.
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More than 10,000 people in England and Wales required professional treatment for injuries caused by home telephones in 2002.
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
10 May 2004 04:33:19 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:14:01 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Being bisexual, I can tell you that I've never met a single person who
straddled the fence like that. I'm bi, and prefer women over men.
You have only objected to my example, but proved my point - there are different levels of homosexuality. Presumably there are some (in fact I have seen one post in another group) that has no preference.
There are different levels of human sexuality. Some are exclusively
hetero, some are homo, and some are asexual. Takes all kinds to make
up a world.
Ah. Like the children of Randal Terry, Phyllis Shaffley, and Vice
President Richard Cheney.
Gays come from all sorts of households, in all sorts of economic
strata.
Have you done an indepth study on how these people bring up their children?
Nope. But there are enough gay chilkdren of famous right-wingers to
make you wonder if right-win Christianity causes homosexuality...
You do that in a lab, moron. Early release of a pathogen would give a
head start on finding a cure. It'd be like the Japanese making a
couple of dry runs over Pearl Harbor.
They would if they were careful - it could have leaked out - perhaps there was a closet homosexual working there!
You are simply blathering at this point.
Then, of course, there's the slight problem that the disease doesn't
just target gays. It targets humans with blood... which is most of
us, I'm reliably informed.
Well it wasn't completed yet!
OK, explain how you target gays *only.* Be specific.
*Any* contact between the bodily fluids of an infected person and the
fluids of another can cause infection. The chances of infection are
slight, but with repeated exposures the chances go up.
But isn't sex with an HIV person VERY likely to transmit? Hence it's pretty reliable.
Nope. The virus itself is weak, and hard to get. Onece it
establishes, then you are in trouble.
Which is why
the first big populations hit by AIDS were the gay population (still
enjoying the sexual revolution), IV drug users,
I don't mind drug users, but perhaps they were a target too.
Evidence?
Or just more wild speculation? For you next trick, explain a disease
that can tell the difference between an IV drug user and a hemophiliac
getting a routine infusion.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
13 May 2004 06:41:44 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:14:01 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Being bisexual, I can tell you that I've never met a single person who
straddled the fence like that. I'm bi, and prefer women over men.
You have only objected to my example, but proved my point - there are different levels of homosexuality. Presumably there are some (in fact I have seen one post in another group) that has no preference.
There are different levels of human sexuality. Some are exclusively
hetero, some are homo, and some are asexual. Takes all kinds to make
up a world.
No it doesn't. The world would not suddenly disappear in a puff of logic if only heteros were alive.
Ah. Like the children of Randal Terry, Phyllis Shaffley, and Vice
President Richard Cheney.
Gays come from all sorts of households, in all sorts of economic
strata.
Have you done an indepth study on how these people bring up their children?
Nope. But there are enough gay chilkdren of famous right-wingers to
make you wonder if right-win Christianity causes homosexuality...
Well it sure as hell fucks you up.
You do that in a lab, moron. Early release of a pathogen would give a
head start on finding a cure. It'd be like the Japanese making a
couple of dry runs over Pearl Harbor.
They would if they were careful - it could have leaked out - perhaps there was a closet homosexual working there!
You are simply blathering at this point.
No.
Then, of course, there's the slight problem that the disease doesn't
just target gays. It targets humans with blood... which is most of
us, I'm reliably informed.
Well it wasn't completed yet!
OK, explain how you target gays *only.* Be specific.
Something that only passes on through anal contact.
Which is why
the first big populations hit by AIDS were the gay population (still
enjoying the sexual revolution), IV drug users,
I don't mind drug users, but perhaps they were a target too.
Evidence?
What are you on about? I;m suggesting a reason for them creating it.
Or just more wild speculation? For you next trick, explain a disease
that can tell the difference between an IV drug user and a hemophiliac
getting a routine infusion.
I dunno, ask the boffins.
--
One workman asks another, "How long have you been working here?"
The other one replies, "Since they threatened to fire me."
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
13 May 2004 09:31:32 PM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com>, braving the
raging storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Fri, 14 May
2004 00:41:44 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
There are different levels of human sexuality. Some are exclusively
hetero, some are homo, and some are asexual. Takes all kinds to make
up a world.
No it doesn't. The world would not suddenly disappear in a puff of logic if only heteros were alive.
Wouldn't do it either if only bis were aroubnf, not gays. H. sapiens
would naish, but something would evolve in our place.
Nope. But there are enough gay children of famous right-wingers to
make you wonder if right-win Christianity causes homosexuality...
Well it sure as hell fucks you up.
Not really. Amuses me mostly.
OK, explain how you target gays *only.* Be specific.
Something that only passes on through anal contact.
LOL! Right, and not a single straight person in the world has anal
sex. Still a virgin, I see.
Oh, and that is an impossible requirement.
What are you on about? I;m suggesting a reason for them creating it.
Why?
Or just more wild speculation? For you next trick, explain a disease
that can tell the difference between an IV drug user and a hemophiliac
getting a routine infusion.
I dunno, ask the boffins.
I have. They laugh at morons like you.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
15 May 2004 02:29:49 AM |
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 02:31:32 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com>, braving the
raging storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Fri, 14 May
2004 00:41:44 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
There are different levels of human sexuality. Some are exclusively
hetero, some are homo, and some are asexual. Takes all kinds to make
up a world.
No it doesn't. The world would not suddenly disappear in a puff of
logic if only heteros were alive.
Wouldn't do it either if only bis were aroubnf, not gays. H. sapiens
would naish, but something would evolve in our place.
Which would be a good thing.
Nope. But there are enough gay children of famous right-wingers to
make you wonder if right-win Christianity causes homosexuality...
Well it sure as hell fucks you up.
Not really. Amuses me mostly.
I meant if you were one.
OK, explain how you target gays *only.* Be specific.
Something that only passes on through anal contact.
LOL! Right, and not a single straight person in the world has anal
sex. Still a virgin, I see.
No, just someone who doesn't want excrement all over me.
Oh, and that is an impossible requirement.
Probably.
What are you on about? I;m suggesting a reason for them creating it.
Why?
Why not?
Or just more wild speculation? For you next trick, explain a disease
that can tell the difference between an IV drug user and a hemophiliac
getting a routine infusion.
I dunno, ask the boffins.
I have. They laugh at morons like you.
Well there are a lot of gay boffins.
--
Auctioneer, n. The man who proclaims with a hammer that he has picked a
pocket with his tongue.
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| User: "Holly the Heretic" |
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| Title: Re: I'm gay & I have AIDS |
14 May 2004 06:01:37 AM |
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 00:41:44 +0100, "Peter Hucker"
<peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote:
No it doesn't. The world would not suddenly disappear in a puff of logic if only heteros were alive.
The world would not disappear if all of mankind ceased to exist.
What's your point?
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