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"Adam" |
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07 May 2004 11:04:43 PM |
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I'm gay & I have AIDS |
And I still have a full and exciting sex life.
Why should anyone have a problem with that?
It's my life.
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| User: "Citizen" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
09 May 2004 02:36:30 PM |
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Lucius Introini wrote:
I honestly believe that Homosexuality is nature's way of preventing
sub-optimal humans from reproducing.
And I really don't mean that in a nasty way.
I believe that a homosexual 'instinct' sometimes 'kicks in' to prevent
humans from passing on their defective genes.
Think about it before flaming me...
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Scientifical, biologically, there's no evidence to support that. Quite
the contrary. If you live in an area where there are many gay and
lesbian citizens, you will no doubt notice that many appear to be the
healthiest example of humans you can find. And in terms of gay men,
being one, and given that women are said to be programmed to find a
healthy partner to produce strong offspring, the women do their best to
chase them.
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| User: "Rev. Donald Spitz" |
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09 May 2004 03:11:31 PM |
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Lucius Introini wrote:
I honestly believe that Homosexuality is nature's way of preventing
sub-optimal humans from reproducing.
And I really don't mean that in a nasty way.
I believe that a homosexual 'instinct' sometimes 'kicks in' to prevent
humans from passing on their defective genes.
Think about it before flaming me...
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Scientifical, biologically, there's no evidence to support that. Quite
the contrary. If you live in an area where there are many gay and
lesbian citizens, you will no doubt notice that many appear to be the
healthiest example of humans you can find. And in terms of gay men,
being one, and given that women are said to be programmed to find a
healthy partner to produce strong offspring, the women do their best to
chase them.
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
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SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I know I am a sinner.
I believe you died on the cross to take away my
sins. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart
and be my Lord and my Savior, and take away my sins.
http://www.ArmyofGod.com
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| User: "Southside of Scotland" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 07:16:35 AM |
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"Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote in message news:<Igwnc.53124$NZ4.20133@lakeread05>...
Lucius Introini wrote:
I honestly believe that Homosexuality is nature's way of preventing
sub-optimal humans from reproducing.
And I really don't mean that in a nasty way.
I believe that a homosexual 'instinct' sometimes 'kicks in' to prevent
humans from passing on their defective genes.
Think about it before flaming me...
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Scientifical, biologically, there's no evidence to support that. Quite
the contrary. If you live in an area where there are many gay and
lesbian citizens, you will no doubt notice that many appear to be the
healthiest example of humans you can find. And in terms of gay men,
being one, and given that women are said to be programmed to find a
healthy partner to produce strong offspring, the women do their best to
chase them.
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
You appear to speak with great authority about this, I really would be
interested in hearing your sources. Presumably it is the same source
that tells us that we shouldn't eat shellfish or wear polyester/cotton
clothing.
Did you know that the self same book, your bibull, also has a scene
where Jesus is shown as a homosexual.
'One of his disciples, the one whom Jesus loved, was reclining at
Jesus' side' John 13 vv 23. It's amazing, the bibull can be misquoted
to show anything that you want it to.
Donald, you are wrong and it's about time that you accepted the fact,
accept the fact that it is your god who made gays, shut up about it
and got on with the job of trying to convince people in your
particular brand of sky pixie.
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 07:41:03 AM |
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"Southside of Scotland" <ethelthrogmorton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7f288f0.0405100416.4a1a7a16@posting.google.com...
Did you know that the self same book, your bibull, also has a scene
where Jesus is shown as a homosexual.
'One of his disciples, the one whom Jesus loved, was reclining at
Jesus' side' John 13 vv 23. It's amazing, the bibull can be misquoted
to show anything that you want it to.
You familiar with the 'Letter of Clement of Alexandria to
Theodore, concerning the so-called 'Secrect Gospel of Mark' ?
http://www-user.uni-bremen.de/~wie/Secret/letter-engl.html
'To you, therefore, I shall not hesitate to answer the questions you have
asked, refuting the falsifications by the very words of the Gospel. For
example, after ,"And they were in the road going up to Jerusalem," and what
follows, until "After three days he shall arise," the secret Gospel brings
the following material word for word:
"And they come into Bethany. And a certain woman whose brother had died was
there. And, coming, she prostrated herself before Jesus and says to him,
'Son of David, have mercy on me.' But the disciples rebuked her. And Jesus,
being angered, went off with her into the garden where the tomb was, and
straightway a great cry was heard from the tomb. And going near Jesus rolled
away the stone from the door of the tomb. And straightway, going in where
the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand.
But the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he
might be with him. And going out of the tomb they came into the house of the
youth, for he was rich. And after six days Jesus told him what to do and in
the evening the youth comes to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked
body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery
of the kingdom of God. And thence, arising, he returned to the other side of
the Jordan."
After these words follows the text, "And James and John come to him," and
all that section. But "naked man with naked man," and the other things about
which you wrote, are not found.
And after the words, "And he comes into Jericho," the secret Gospel adds
only,
"And the sister of the youth whom Jesus loved and his mother and Salome were
there, and Jesus did not receive them."
But the many other things about which you wrote both seem to be and are
falsifications.'
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
09 May 2004 09:33:40 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 9 May 2004 16:11:31 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
It is natural. Seen in all primates, the vast majority of mammals,
and many other animals.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Fry" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
09 May 2004 09:40:06 PM |
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In uk.local.yorkshire, Douglas Berry says...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 9 May 2004 16:11:31 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
It is natural. Seen in all primates, the vast majority of mammals,
and many other animals.
Homosexuality is seen as an abnormality to the normal behavior of animal
species. There is nothing normal about human homosexuality either.
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| User: "Brent Norman" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 01:55:26 AM |
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Fry <dfry@airm0bile.org> wrote in message news:<ckqt90pt9m0aboot3ullmker3b5bgb4rvc@4ax.com>...
In uk.local.yorkshire, Douglas Berry says...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 9 May 2004 16:11:31 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
It is natural. Seen in all primates, the vast majority of mammals,
and many other animals.
Homosexuality is seen as an abnormality to the normal behavior of animal
species. There is nothing normal about human homosexuality either.
Of course it is abnormal in terms of not being the way of the
majority. Many things are abnormal. Elevated intelligence in humans
is "abnormal" too. Having a photographic memory is abnormal. Eating
peanut butter and pickle sandwiches is abnormal. Just because
something is abnormal, there is no implied judgement, it is just
different from what the majority would expect.
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 10:44:59 AM |
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Brent Norman <nelliganemile@hotmail.com> wrote:
Fry <dfry@airm0bile.org> wrote in message news:<ckqt90pt9m0aboot3ullmker3b5bgb4rvc@4ax.com>...
In uk.local.yorkshire, Douglas Berry says...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 9 May 2004 16:11:31 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
It is natural. Seen in all primates, the vast majority of mammals,
and many other animals.
Homosexuality is seen as an abnormality to the normal behavior of animal
species. There is nothing normal about human homosexuality either.
Of course it is abnormal in terms of not being the way of the
majority. Many things are abnormal. Elevated intelligence in humans
is "abnormal" too. Having a photographic memory is abnormal. Eating
peanut butter and pickle sandwiches is abnormal. Just because
something is abnormal, there is no implied judgement, it is just
different from what the majority would expect.
Having a photographic memory is useful. Being attracted to the same sex has no advantage whatsoever.
--
Man who walk through turnstyle sideways going to bangkok!
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 02:08:31 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 16:44:59 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Having a photographic memory is useful. Being attracted to the same sex has no advantage whatsoever.
It frees you from child-rearing duties, allowing you to get the
advantage when hunting or moving.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 02:17:52 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 16:44:59 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Having a photographic memory is useful. Being attracted to the same sex has no advantage whatsoever.
It frees you from child-rearing duties, allowing you to get the
advantage when hunting or moving.
Heterosexuals are not forced to have children.
--
If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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10 May 2004 04:43:38 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:17:52 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 16:44:59 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Having a photographic memory is useful. Being attracted to the same sex has no advantage whatsoever.
It frees you from child-rearing duties, allowing you to get the
advantage when hunting or moving.
Heterosexuals are not forced to have children.
Back when we were hunter-gatherers, the point was moot.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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13 May 2004 06:45:16 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:17:52 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 16:44:59 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Having a photographic memory is useful. Being attracted to the same sex has no advantage whatsoever.
It frees you from child-rearing duties, allowing you to get the
advantage when hunting or moving.
Heterosexuals are not forced to have children.
Back when we were hunter-gatherers, the point was moot.
No it wasn't.
--
You need only two tools in life. WD-40 and duck tape.
If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40.
If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape.
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| User: "Harper Dean" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
09 May 2004 11:27:50 PM |
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Fry wrote:
In uk.local.yorkshire, Douglas Berry says...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 9 May 2004 16:11:31 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
It is natural. Seen in all primates, the vast majority of mammals,
and many other animals.
Homosexuality is seen as an abnormality to the normal behavior of animal
species. There is nothing normal about human homosexuality either.
Fry wrote:
In uk.local.yorkshire, Douglas Berry says...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 9 May 2004 16:11:31 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
It is natural. Seen in all primates, the vast majority of mammals,
and many other animals.
Homosexuality is seen as an abnormality to the normal behavior of animal
species. There is nothing normal about human homosexuality either.
Well, if by "abnormal" you mean "statistically less common," sure, okay.
If you mean wrong or sinful, are you saying animals are capable of sin?
Are they aware they're sinning? According to the Bible, animals don't go
to heaven or hell, so are they punished, somehow, for their abnormal
behavior? What about four-leaf clovers, another statistical anomaly. Are
they bad plants?
I'm curious: what does "normal" mean to you? Are left-handed people
abnormal, or just less common than righties? What about geniuses, like
Albert Einstein? One could say his IQ (239) was grossly abnormal.
Take care,
H.D.
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| User: "Fry" |
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09 May 2004 11:56:39 PM |
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In uk.local.yorkshire, Harper Dean says...
Fry wrote:
Homosexuality is seen as an abnormality to the normal behavior of animal
species. There is nothing normal about human homosexuality either.
Well, if by "abnormal" you mean "statistically less common," sure, okay.
More like statistically rare.
If you mean wrong or sinful, are you saying animals are capable of sin?
Are they aware they're sinning? According to the Bible, animals don't go
to heaven or hell, so are they punished, somehow, for their abnormal
behavior?
I made no reference to sin or the damnation of sinful acts. It is you who
is injecting your own fears - is heterophobia a word?
What about four-leaf clovers, another statistical anomaly. Are
they bad plants?
No, only the five leaf ones...dolt.
I'm curious: what does "normal" mean to you? Are left-handed people
abnormal, or just less common than righties? What about geniuses, like
Albert Einstein? One could say his IQ (239) was grossly abnormal.
Take care,
H.D.
Homosexuals are not normal according to the nature of man.
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| User: "Harper Dean" |
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10 May 2004 12:18:30 AM |
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Fry wrote:
Homosexuals are not normal according to the nature of man.
Once again, what does "normal" mean to you? Can you please define your
terms? It sure would help me to understand you. What *is* the precise
nature of man, anyway? Philosophers have been debating it for ages; I'd
love to hear your hypotheses.
Could you try to be civil, by the way? I haven't mistreated you. I have
no doubt you believe what you believe very sincerely. I'm trying to have
a talk with you, trying to understand where you're coming from.
H.D.
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| User: "Clayton Cant Find His Left Sock" |
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10 May 2004 04:48:10 AM |
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"Harper Dean" <hmdean@astound.net> wrote in message
news:2g8hl6F5gipbU1@uni-berlin.de...
Fry wrote:
Homosexuals are not normal according to the nature of man.
Once again, what does "normal" mean to you? Can you please define your
terms? It sure would help me to understand you. What *is* the precise
nature of man, anyway? Philosophers have been debating it for ages; I'd
love to hear your hypotheses.
Could you try to be civil, by the way? I haven't mistreated you. I have
no doubt you believe what you believe very sincerely. I'm trying to have
a talk with you, trying to understand where you're coming from.
He's a homophobic troll who needs to justify his hatred and bigotry, so he
just says, "It's wrong because it is and I don't like it!!"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 10:43:08 AM |
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Clayton Can't Find His Left Sock <cjfat@BLOCKINGOFTHESPAMphonyemail.com> wrote:
"Harper Dean" <hmdean@astound.net> wrote in message
news:2g8hl6F5gipbU1@uni-berlin.de...
Fry wrote:
Homosexuals are not normal according to the nature of man.
Once again, what does "normal" mean to you? Can you please define your
terms? It sure would help me to understand you. What *is* the precise
nature of man, anyway? Philosophers have been debating it for ages; I'd
love to hear your hypotheses.
Could you try to be civil, by the way? I haven't mistreated you. I have
no doubt you believe what you believe very sincerely. I'm trying to have
a talk with you, trying to understand where you're coming from.
He's a homophobic troll who needs to justify his hatred and bigotry, so he
just says, "It's wrong because it is and I don't like it!!"
Shove that sock up your arse.
--
What are the "Man's Three Rules When Getting Old?"
Never pass a bathroom, don't waste a hard-on, and never trust a fart.
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| User: "anne marie hovgaard" |
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10 May 2004 11:16:14 AM |
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Harper Dean <hmdean@astound.net> wrote in message news:<2g8hl6F5gipbU1@uni-berlin.de>...
Fry wrote:
Homosexuals are not normal according to the nature of man.
Once again, what does "normal" mean to you? Can you please define your
terms? It sure would help me to understand you. What *is* the precise
nature of man, anyway? Philosophers have been debating it for ages; I'd
love to hear your hypotheses.
Let me hazard a guess: he's not really talking about "the nature of
man", that is, anything to do with real people, but rather "the Nature
of Man", part of the Romantics' noble Nature - you know, the one
inhabited by noble savages and nightingales to sing odes to :)
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 10:07:16 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 00:56:39 -0400, a stranger
called by some Fry <dfry@airm0bile.org> came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Homosexuals are not normal according to the nature of man.
Neither are left handed people, or those with blue eyes, or those born
with tails (it happens.)
With a population of six billion, you are going to get variation.
Throughout the family of mammals, it seems that about 5% of any
species seems to prefer mating with the same gender. A lot of other
species show the same thing.
Why can't you accept facts when they are presented to you on a plate?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 10:44:12 AM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 00:56:39 -0400, a stranger
called by some Fry <dfry@airm0bile.org> came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Homosexuals are not normal according to the nature of man.
Neither are left handed people, or those with blue eyes, or those born
with tails (it happens.)
With a population of six billion, you are going to get variation.
A fucked up variation. People born with 1 leg are inferior. If it wasn't for modern medicine, they would die.
As for left handers. Bloody waste of mouse design that is!
--
What are the "Man's Three Rules When Getting Old?"
Never pass a bathroom, don't waste a hard-on, and never trust a fart.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 02:07:46 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 16:44:12 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 00:56:39 -0400, a stranger
called by some Fry <dfry@airm0bile.org> came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Homosexuals are not normal according to the nature of man.
Neither are left handed people, or those with blue eyes, or those born
with tails (it happens.)
With a population of six billion, you are going to get variation.
A fucked up variation. People born with 1 leg are inferior. If it wasn't for modern medicine, they would die.
Why? I know a couple of people born without limbs who do quite
nicely.
Hell, the NFL record for longest field goal is held by a man born with
a deformed foot and leg!
As for left handers. Bloody waste of mouse design that is!
We deal with it. The worst thing is the M-16 rifle. The sucker
ejects back and to the right. During OSUT, I had a near permament
burn abouve my right eye from brass hitting me there.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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10 May 2004 02:15:53 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 16:44:12 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 00:56:39 -0400, a stranger
called by some Fry <dfry@airm0bile.org> came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Homosexuals are not normal according to the nature of man.
Neither are left handed people, or those with blue eyes, or those born
with tails (it happens.)
With a population of six billion, you are going to get variation.
A fucked up variation. People born with 1 leg are inferior. If it wasn't for modern medicine, they would die.
Why? I know a couple of people born without limbs who do quite
nicely.
Would they in an "uncivilised" society - living in the wild as it were?
Hell, the NFL record for longest field goal is held by a man born with
a deformed foot and leg!
I said MISSING not DEFORMED.
As for left handers. Bloody waste of mouse design that is!
We deal with it. The worst thing is the M-16 rifle. The sucker
ejects back and to the right. During OSUT, I had a near permament
burn abouve my right eye from brass hitting me there.
There you are, we nearly took you out....
--
You know you've spent too much time on the computer when you spill milk and the first thing you think is, 'Edit, Undo.'
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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10 May 2004 04:50:54 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:15:53 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Why? I know a couple of people born without limbs who do quite
nicely.
Would they in an "uncivilised" society - living in the wild as it were?
Considering one of them is an accomplished spear hunter, and runs
marathons (born with one arm missing below the elbow); I'd say yes.
He's also a professional light rigger, and sets up the ligting rigs
you see at concerts and other such events. All with one arm.
Hell, the NFL record for longest field goal is held by a man born with
a deformed foot and leg!
I said MISSING not DEFORMED.
OK, how about Hugh Daily, a pitcher for the Cleveland Indians who
threw a 1-0 no hitter. He had one arm.
He wasn't born without it, but LTG Fred Franks lost his leg in
Vietnam. Despite this he remained on active duty in the Army and
commanded VII Corps in Desert Shield/Desert Storm.
Care for more examples?
We deal with it. The worst thing is the M-16 rifle. The sucker
ejects back and to the right. During OSUT, I had a near permament
burn abouve my right eye from brass hitting me there.
There you are, we nearly took you out....
Nah. Toughend me up. Of course, when I became a sniper, I learned
right-handed. To this day, I shoot left handed *unless* the weapon
has a scope.. then I automatically switch to my right.
Are you such a wimp that a little hot metal in the face would "take
you out"? Man, I just brushed it away! Get tough, son!
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
13 May 2004 06:47:48 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:15:53 +0100, a stranger
called by some "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Why? I know a couple of people born without limbs who do quite
nicely.
Would they in an "uncivilised" society - living in the wild as it were?
Considering one of them is an accomplished spear hunter, and runs
marathons (born with one arm missing below the elbow); I'd say yes.
He's also a professional light rigger, and sets up the ligting rigs
you see at concerts and other such events. All with one arm.
Can't remember the discussion now (you've over snipped), but I think for some reason I was thinking legs.
Hell, the NFL record for longest field goal is held by a man born with
a deformed foot and leg!
I said MISSING not DEFORMED.
OK, how about Hugh Daily, a pitcher for the Cleveland Indians who
threw a 1-0 no hitter. He had one arm.
He wasn't born without it, but LTG Fred Franks lost his leg in
Vietnam. Despite this he remained on active duty in the Army and
commanded VII Corps in Desert Shield/Desert Storm.
Care for more examples?
Again, I've no idea what this discussion is about.
We deal with it. The worst thing is the M-16 rifle. The sucker
ejects back and to the right. During OSUT, I had a near permament
burn abouve my right eye from brass hitting me there.
There you are, we nearly took you out....
Nah. Toughend me up. Of course, when I became a sniper, I learned
right-handed. To this day, I shoot left handed *unless* the weapon
has a scope.. then I automatically switch to my right.
Are you such a wimp that a little hot metal in the face would "take
you out"? Man, I just brushed it away! Get tough, son!
Have you seen the backfiring gun video?
--
Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
13 May 2004 09:34:48 PM |
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Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com>, braving the
raging storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Fri, 14 May
2004 00:47:48 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Considering one of them is an accomplished spear hunter, and runs
marathons (born with one arm missing below the elbow); I'd say yes.
He's also a professional light rigger, and sets up the ligting rigs
you see at concerts and other such events. All with one arm.
Can't remember the discussion now (you've over snipped), but I think for some reason I was thinking legs.
You said limbs.
OK, how about Hugh Daily, a pitcher for the Cleveland Indians who
threw a 1-0 no hitter. He had one arm.
He wasn't born without it, but LTG Fred Franks lost his leg in
Vietnam. Despite this he remained on active duty in the Army and
commanded VII Corps in Desert Shield/Desert Storm.
Care for more examples?
Again, I've no idea what this discussion is about.
People born missing limbs who excel in physical activities.
Are you such a wimp that a little hot metal in the face would "take
you out"? Man, I just brushed it away! Get tough, son!
Have you seen the backfiring gun video?
Several. Along with an expereince in real life when a replica Sharps
Carbine exploded. However, a small piece of hot brass is just an
annoyance. An exploding firearm is the result of shitty maintainence
and it doesn't matter which side of the rifle you shoot from.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
15 May 2004 02:30:40 AM |
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 02:34:48 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Great Lord "Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com>, braving the
raging storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Fri, 14 May
2004 00:47:48 +0100 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Considering one of them is an accomplished spear hunter, and runs
marathons (born with one arm missing below the elbow); I'd say yes.
He's also a professional light rigger, and sets up the ligting rigs
you see at concerts and other such events. All with one arm.
Can't remember the discussion now (you've over snipped), but I think
for some reason I was thinking legs.
You said limbs.
***** knows. Stop snipping!
OK, how about Hugh Daily, a pitcher for the Cleveland Indians who
threw a 1-0 no hitter. He had one arm.
He wasn't born without it, but LTG Fred Franks lost his leg in
Vietnam. Despite this he remained on active duty in the Army and
commanded VII Corps in Desert Shield/Desert Storm.
Care for more examples?
Again, I've no idea what this discussion is about.
People born missing limbs who excel in physical activities.
Nevermind, thread too old, next!
Are you such a wimp that a little hot metal in the face would "take
you out"? Man, I just brushed it away! Get tough, son!
Have you seen the backfiring gun video?
Several. Along with an expereince in real life when a replica Sharps
Carbine exploded. However, a small piece of hot brass is just an
annoyance. An exploding firearm is the result of shitty maintainence
and it doesn't matter which side of the rifle you shoot from.
It's bloody funny though.
--
Someday we'll look back on all this and plough into a parked car.
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 10:46:49 AM |
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Fry wrote:
In uk.local.yorkshire, Douglas Berry says...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 9 May 2004 16:11:31 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
It is natural. Seen in all primates, the vast majority of mammals,
and many other animals.
Homosexuality is seen as an abnormality to the normal behavior of animal
species.
Wrong. There are many observations of naturally occurring homosexual
animals. For more info on this see: BIOLOGICAL EXUBERANCE: Animal
Homosexuality and Natural Diversity By Bruce Bagemihl, St. Martin's
Press, 771 pages. For a quicker, non-scientific example of a pair of
gay Penguins in New York, see
http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/cns/2002-06-10/591.asp
There is nothing normal about human homosexuality either.
Depends on your definition of "normal". Left handedness, natural
red-heads, Dolly Parton sized breasts and many other human traits are
also not "normal" yet we do not try to deny those people their civil rights.
--
+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
+================================================================+
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| User: "Peter Hucker" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 11:06:33 AM |
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L. Michael Roberts <L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
Fry wrote:
In uk.local.yorkshire, Douglas Berry says...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 9 May 2004 16:11:31 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
It is natural. Seen in all primates, the vast majority of mammals,
and many other animals.
Homosexuality is seen as an abnormality to the normal behavior of animal
species.
Wrong. There are many observations of naturally occurring homosexual
animals.
Animals can be unnatural aswell as humans.
--
If only women came with pull-down menus and on-line help.
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| User: "Brent Norman" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 08:46:00 PM |
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"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message news:<opr7skc7werkma46@blue>...
L. Michael Roberts <L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
Fry wrote:
In uk.local.yorkshire, Douglas Berry says...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 9 May 2004 16:11:31 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
It is natural. Seen in all primates, the vast majority of mammals,
and many other animals.
Homosexuality is seen as an abnormality to the normal behavior of animal
species.
Wrong. There are many observations of naturally occurring homosexual
animals.
Animals can be unnatural aswell as humans.
I don't see the point of someone saying that something (such as
homosexuality) is unnatural, in an attempt to denigrate homosexuals.
It makes no sense. Whether or not something is natural is irrelevant.
Natural is not analagous to "good" nor is unnatural analagous to
"bad", and vice versa.
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality may be natural |
10 May 2004 09:11:51 PM |
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On 10 May 2004 18:46:00 -0700, (Brent
Norman) wrote:
"Peter Hucker" <peter.hucker@btconnect.com> wrote in message news:<opr7skc7werkma46@blue>...
L. Michael Roberts <L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
Fry wrote:
In uk.local.yorkshire, Douglas Berry says...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 9 May 2004 16:11:31 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Homosex is not natural. It is perversion and those who do it are sex
perverts who God will punish unless they turn from their sins.
It is natural. Seen in all primates, the vast majority of mammals,
and many other animals.
Homosexuality is seen as an abnormality to the normal behavior of animal
species.
Wrong. There are many observations of naturally occurring homosexual
animals.
Animals can be unnatural aswell as humans.
I don't see the point of someone saying that something (such as
homosexuality) is unnatural, in an attempt to denigrate homosexuals.
It makes no sense. Whether or not something is natural is irrelevant.
Natural is not analagous to "good" nor is unnatural analagous to
"bad", and vice versa.
That which exists, exists naturally. Quote from the sixties.
--Remove Pi from email.
It was like that when I found it.
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