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The PURPOSE OF LIFE REVEALED
GRADUATION from The SCHOOL OF LIFE
The Path of The DIVINE MASTERS
The Important TRUTH About DEPARTED Masters
ALL of us were ORIGINALLY created and born into one
of the upper Spiritual Planes of Heaven. In general, we
were SELFISH, LAZY, IMMATURE, and IN-EXPERIENCED there.
So God sent us down here for a long series of
incarnations and RE-INCARNATIONS between the Physical
Plane (Pinda) and the Psychic Planes (Astral Plane,
Causal Plane, Mental Plane, and Etheric Plane), and the
numerous SUB-planes within each of these major planes,
for the purposes of gaining EXPERIENCE, building
CHARACTER, and learning the importance of SERVICE to
OTHERS, to become a SERVANT of Life and a CO-WORKER with
God.
To help us accomplish this training, God created
and assigned to us a SCHOOLMASTER, who rules over ALL of
the Psychic Planes and the Physical Plane, BELOW the
Soul Plane and higher Spiritual Planes. Christians know
him as the Devil, Satan, Lucifer, etc.. He is also
known as Kal Niranjan, the Universal Mind Power, or
simply the Negative Power. It is his God-given DUTY to
use clever tricks to keep us IMPRISONED here in the
lower worlds for extended training.
God also provided us with an easy way of ESCAPE
from the MISERABLE and seeming ENDLESS cycles of births,
deaths, and rebirths. All a person has to do to obtain
this Salvation is to find, and seriously accept
Initiation from, a PHYSICALLY-LIVING Divine Master, and
then daily do some of the various suggested spiritual
contemplation exercises. (A TRUE Divine Master is one
who tunes his Initiates into the Sound Current, the
Audible Life Stream, referred to as "The Word" in John
1:1-5.) When the Initiate physically dies, s/he will go
DIRECTLY to at least the Soul Plane, and will NEVER
AGAIN have to REincarnate into ANY Physical or Psychic
Plane of existence.
One such PHYSICALLY-LIVING Divine Master is a
Tibetan, Rebazar Tarzs, one of five LIVING Masters for
the Eckankar organization, now headquartered near
Minneapolis (P.O. Box 2000, Chanhassen, MN 55317;
1-800-568-3463; http://www.eckankar.org ).
Another Divine Master alive today is Maharaj
Gurinder Singh Ji of the Radha Soami Sant Mat
organization, now living in Punjab, India; (See the book
"The Path of the Masters", by Dr. Julian P. Johnson,
1939; ONLY $3.00 PPD. from Science of the Soul Study
Center, 4115 Gillespie St., Fayetteville, NC 28306.).
There are others. However, Eckankar has some important
ADVANTAGES over these others, including fewer
restrictions on diet and life style, less daily time
required for spiritual comtemplation exercises, and the
ability of Initiates to work off negative karma during
the DREAM STATE where it won't disrupt the Initiate's
outer physical life.
It should be emphasized that one can NOT obtain
this Salvation from a DEPARTED Divine Master, such as
Jesus Christ, who is NOT now physically alive, NOR will
be again. THIS IS SIMPLY THE WAY GOD SET THINGS UP IN
THE UNIVERSES. Therefore, ALL Christians, as well as ALL
Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc., WILL CONTINUE to
REincarnate.
Quoted from "The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book One" (the
Eckankar Bible), pages 95-96 (1987 Edition):
"A vital difference exists between the Mahanta and
a departed Master [such as Jesus Christ]. The chela
cannot follow a Master who has left this plane and gone
into the other worlds. The departed one cannot initiate
anyone on the spiritual path. He has nothing now to do
with the earth world....
"No child can get nourishment from a deceased
mother, nor a sick man from a departed doctor. The
Masters of the past ages have left this field of action
and so their work here is finished.... The SUGMAD [God]
cannot instruct, or give man the needed help on the
upward path, without the Mahanta in human form to act as
his instrument and spokesman....
"Those who cling to a Master [such as Jesus Christ]
who has been translated from this earth are in error.
He is not dead, but he has left the field of action in
this region of matter. He is no longer in touch with
humanity; his work is elsewhere. The discipleship of
the chela must change to the successor.
"Men must recognize that feelings provide no proof
in religious matters...."
Books containing several kinds of evidence
supporting REincarnation, and the related LAW of
RETRIBUTION or KARMA (Galatians 6:7 KJV, Revelation
13:10 KJV, etc.), can be found in most bookstores and
libraries. One of the best of these books is "Here and
Hereafter" by Ruth Montgomery. See also the book
"Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives",
by hypnotherapist Dr. Micheal Newton, Ph.D., 4th
edition, 1995; but note that this book's references to
the "spiritual realms" are actually LIMITED to the
PSYCHIC Planes.
Two CLASSIC original Eckankar books are: "ECKANKAR:
The Key to Secret Worlds" and "The Tiger's Fang", both
written by Paul Twitchell.
See also http://www.atomworld.org . "ATOM" here
means "Ancient Teachings Of The Masters". Sri Darwin
Gross.
For more information, answers to your questions,
etc., please consult my CITED SOURCES.
Robert E. McElwaine
Eckankar Initiate
http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS
http://members.aol.com/rem460
Preserve BOTH on CD-R and PRINT-OUTS
P.S.: PASS IT ON !
"EVERYTHING you know is WRONG."
"The Truth IS stranger than fiction."
"The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR."
"OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL."
"The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME."




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User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."

Title: Re: Important TRUTH About DEPARTED Masters, Like Jesus Christ 18 Oct 2005 03:58:21 PM
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The PURPOSE OF LIFE REVEALED
GRADUATION from The SCHOOL OF LIFE
The Path of The DIVINE MASTERS
The Important TRUTH About DEPARTED Masters

Take alt.religion.christian, alt.christnet, alt.religion.christian-teen, and
alt.christnet.theology out of your header.
None of this silly stuff has any place here, and it is inherently off topic.
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Title: Re: Important TRUTH About DEPARTED Masters, Like Jesus Christ 18 Oct 2005 05:17:13 PM
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The PURPOSE OF LIFE REVEALED
GRADUATION from The SCHOOL OF LIFE
The Path of The DIVINE MASTERS
The Important TRUTH About DEPARTED Masters


Take alt.religion.christian, alt.christnet,
alt.religion.christian-teen, and alt.christnet.theology out of your
header.

None of this silly stuff has any place here, and it is inherently off
topic.

Ike

Hell, it's off topic in every newsgroup but alt.idiots.are.us. But you
know, they just can't keep the inmates from crossposting when the staff
forgets and lets the lunies play with the computers.
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User: "Opie"

Title: Re: Important TRUTH About DEPARTED Masters, Like Jesus Christ 18 Oct 2005 03:08:37 PM
On 18 Oct 2005 12:52:31 -0700,

wrote:
<> >
<> The PURPOSE OF LIFE
REVEALED
<> GRADUATION from The SCHOOL
OF LIFE
<> The Path of The DIVINE
MASTERS
<> The Important TRUTH About
DEPARTED Masters
<>
<> ALL of us were ORIGINALLY
created and born into one
<> of the upper Spiritual Planes of
Heaven. In general, we
<> were SELFISH, LAZY, IMMATURE, and
IN-EXPERIENCED there.
<> So God sent us down here for a long
series of
<> incarnations and RE-INCARNATIONS
between the Physical
<> Plane (Pinda) and the Psychic Planes
(Astral Plane,
<> Causal Plane, Mental Plane, and
Etheric Plane), and the
<> numerous SUB-planes within each of
these major planes,
<> for the purposes of gaining
EXPERIENCE, building
<> CHARACTER, and learning the
importance of SERVICE to
<> OTHERS, to become a SERVANT of Life
and a CO-WORKER with
<> God.
<>
<> To help us accomplish this
training, God created
<> and assigned to us a SCHOOLMASTER,
who rules over ALL of
<> the Psychic Planes and the Physical
Plane, BELOW the
<> Soul Plane and higher Spiritual
Planes. Christians know
<> him as the Devil, Satan, Lucifer,
etc.. He is also
<> known as Kal Niranjan, the Universal
Mind Power, or
<> simply the Negative Power. It is his
God-given DUTY to
<> use clever tricks to keep us
IMPRISONED here in the
<> lower worlds for extended training.
<>
<> God also provided us with an
easy way of ESCAPE
<> from the MISERABLE and seeming
ENDLESS cycles of births,
<> deaths, and rebirths. All a person
has to do to obtain
<> this Salvation is to find, and
seriously accept
<> Initiation from, a PHYSICALLY-LIVING
Divine Master, and
<> then daily do some of the various
suggested spiritual
<> contemplation exercises. (A TRUE
Divine Master is one
<> who tunes his Initiates into the
Sound Current, the
<> Audible Life Stream, referred to as
"The Word" in John
<> 1:1-5.) When the Initiate physically
dies, s/he will go
<> DIRECTLY to at least the Soul Plane,
and will NEVER
<> AGAIN have to REincarnate into ANY
Physical or Psychic
<> Plane of existence.
<>
<> One such PHYSICALLY-LIVING
Divine Master is a
<> Tibetan, Rebazar Tarzs, one of five
LIVING Masters for
<> the Eckankar organization, now
headquartered near
<> Minneapolis (P.O. Box 2000,
Chanhassen, MN 55317;
<> 1-800-568-3463;
http://www.eckankar.org ).
<>
<> Another Divine Master alive
today is Maharaj
<> Gurinder Singh Ji of the Radha Soami
Sant Mat
<> organization, now living in Punjab,
India; (See the book
<> "The Path of the Masters", by Dr.
Julian P. Johnson,
<> 1939; ONLY $3.00 PPD. from Science
of the Soul Study
<> Center, 4115 Gillespie St.,
Fayetteville, NC 28306.).
<> There are others. However, Eckankar
has some important
<> ADVANTAGES over these others,
including fewer
<> restrictions on diet and life style,
less daily time
<> required for spiritual comtemplation
exercises, and the
<> ability of Initiates to work off
negative karma during
<> the DREAM STATE where it won't
disrupt the Initiate's
<> outer physical life.
<>
<> It should be emphasized that one
can NOT obtain
<> this Salvation from a DEPARTED Divine
Master, such as
<> Jesus Christ, who is NOT now
physically alive, NOR will
<> be again. THIS IS SIMPLY THE WAY GOD
SET THINGS UP IN
<> THE UNIVERSES. Therefore, ALL
Christians, as well as ALL
<> Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.,
WILL CONTINUE to
<> REincarnate.
<>
<> Quoted from "The
Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book One" (the
<> Eckankar Bible), pages 95-96 (1987
Edition):
<> "A vital difference exists
between the Mahanta and
<> a departed Master [such as Jesus
Christ]. The chela
<> cannot follow a Master who has left
this plane and gone
<> into the other worlds. The departed
one cannot initiate
<> anyone on the spiritual path. He has
nothing now to do
<> with the earth world....
<> "No child can get nourishment
from a deceased
<> mother, nor a sick man from a
departed doctor. The
<> Masters of the past ages have left
this field of action
<> and so their work here is
finished.... The SUGMAD [God]
<> cannot instruct, or give man the
needed help on the
<> upward path, without the Mahanta in
human form to act as
<> his instrument and spokesman....
<> "Those who cling to a Master
[such as Jesus Christ]
<> who has been translated from this
earth are in error.
<> He is not dead, but he has left the
field of action in
<> this region of matter. He is no
longer in touch with
<> humanity; his work is elsewhere. The
discipleship of
<> the chela must change to the
successor.
<> "Men must recognize that
feelings provide no proof
<> in religious matters...."
<>
<> Books containing several kinds
of evidence
<> supporting REincarnation, and the
related LAW of
<> RETRIBUTION or KARMA (Galatians 6:7
KJV, Revelation
<> 13:10 KJV, etc.), can be found in
most bookstores and
<> libraries. One of the best of these
books is "Here and
<> Hereafter" by Ruth Montgomery. See
also the book
<> "Journey of Souls: Case Studies of
Life Between Lives",
<> by hypnotherapist Dr. Micheal Newton,
Ph.D., 4th
<> edition, 1995; but note that this
book's references to
<> the "spiritual realms" are actually
LIMITED to the
<> PSYCHIC Planes.
<>
<> Two CLASSIC original Eckankar
books are: "ECKANKAR:
<> The Key to Secret Worlds" and "The
Tiger's Fang", both
<> written by Paul Twitchell.
<>
<> See also
http://www.atomworld.org . "ATOM" here
<> means "Ancient Teachings Of The
Masters". Sri Darwin
<> Gross.
<> For more information, answers to
your questions,
<> etc., please consult my CITED
SOURCES.
<>
<> Robert E.
McElwaine
<> Eckankar
Initiate
<> http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS
<> http://members.aol.com/rem460
<> Preserve BOTH on
CD-R and PRINT-OUTS
<>
<> P.S.: PASS IT ON !
<>
<>
<> "EVERYTHING you know is WRONG."
<> "The Truth IS stranger than fiction."
<> "The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF
WAR."
<> "OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF
ALL."
<> "The more things change, the more they STAY THE
SAME."
<> >
<> >
<> >
And not a hunch (much less a fact) to support this
silly post. But, it was a refreshing deviation.
.
User: "ZenIsWhen"

Title: Re: Important TRUTH About DEPARTED Masters, Like Jesus Christ 18 Oct 2005 06:25:49 PM
news:8glal1ldip51snvf2pbvipg2itrga3te7m@4ax.com...

On 18 Oct 2005 12:52:31 -0700,


wrote:

<> >
<> The PURPOSE OF LIFE
REVEALED
<> GRADUATION from The SCHOOL
OF LIFE
<> The Path of The DIVINE
MASTERS
<> The Important TRUTH About
DEPARTED Masters
<>
<> ALL of us were ORIGINALLY
created and born into one
<> of the upper Spiritual Planes of
Heaven. In general, we
<> were SELFISH, LAZY, IMMATURE, and
IN-EXPERIENCED there.
<> So God sent us down here for a long
series of
<> incarnations and RE-INCARNATIONS
between the Physical
<> Plane (Pinda) and the Psychic Planes
(Astral Plane,
<> Causal Plane, Mental Plane, and
Etheric Plane), and the
<> numerous SUB-planes within each of
these major planes,
<> for the purposes of gaining
EXPERIENCE, building
<> CHARACTER, and learning the
importance of SERVICE to
<> OTHERS, to become a SERVANT of Life
and a CO-WORKER with
<> God.
<>
<> To help us accomplish this
training, God created
<> and assigned to us a SCHOOLMASTER,
who rules over ALL of
<> the Psychic Planes and the Physical
Plane, BELOW the
<> Soul Plane and higher Spiritual
Planes. Christians know
<> him as the Devil, Satan, Lucifer,
etc.. He is also
<> known as Kal Niranjan, the Universal
Mind Power, or
<> simply the Negative Power. It is his
God-given DUTY to
<> use clever tricks to keep us
IMPRISONED here in the
<> lower worlds for extended training.
<>
<> God also provided us with an
easy way of ESCAPE
<> from the MISERABLE and seeming
ENDLESS cycles of births,
<> deaths, and rebirths. All a person
has to do to obtain
<> this Salvation is to find, and
seriously accept
<> Initiation from, a PHYSICALLY-LIVING
Divine Master, and
<> then daily do some of the various
suggested spiritual
<> contemplation exercises. (A TRUE
Divine Master is one
<> who tunes his Initiates into the
Sound Current, the
<> Audible Life Stream, referred to as
"The Word" in John
<> 1:1-5.) When the Initiate physically
dies, s/he will go
<> DIRECTLY to at least the Soul Plane,
and will NEVER
<> AGAIN have to REincarnate into ANY
Physical or Psychic
<> Plane of existence.
<>
<> One such PHYSICALLY-LIVING
Divine Master is a
<> Tibetan, Rebazar Tarzs, one of five
LIVING Masters for
<> the Eckankar organization, now
headquartered near
<> Minneapolis (P.O. Box 2000,
Chanhassen, MN 55317;
<> 1-800-568-3463;
http://www.eckankar.org ).
<>
<> Another Divine Master alive
today is Maharaj
<> Gurinder Singh Ji of the Radha Soami
Sant Mat
<> organization, now living in Punjab,
India; (See the book
<> "The Path of the Masters", by Dr.
Julian P. Johnson,
<> 1939; ONLY $3.00 PPD. from Science
of the Soul Study
<> Center, 4115 Gillespie St.,
Fayetteville, NC 28306.).
<> There are others. However, Eckankar
has some important
<> ADVANTAGES over these others,
including fewer
<> restrictions on diet and life style,
less daily time
<> required for spiritual comtemplation
exercises, and the
<> ability of Initiates to work off
negative karma during
<> the DREAM STATE where it won't
disrupt the Initiate's
<> outer physical life.
<>
<> It should be emphasized that one
can NOT obtain
<> this Salvation from a DEPARTED Divine
Master, such as
<> Jesus Christ, who is NOT now
physically alive, NOR will
<> be again. THIS IS SIMPLY THE WAY GOD
SET THINGS UP IN
<> THE UNIVERSES. Therefore, ALL
Christians, as well as ALL
<> Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.,
WILL CONTINUE to
<> REincarnate.
<>
<> Quoted from "The
Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book One" (the
<> Eckankar Bible), pages 95-96 (1987
Edition):
<> "A vital difference exists
between the Mahanta and
<> a departed Master [such as Jesus
Christ]. The chela
<> cannot follow a Master who has left
this plane and gone
<> into the other worlds. The departed
one cannot initiate
<> anyone on the spiritual path. He has
nothing now to do
<> with the earth world....
<> "No child can get nourishment
from a deceased
<> mother, nor a sick man from a
departed doctor. The
<> Masters of the past ages have left
this field of action
<> and so their work here is
finished.... The SUGMAD [God]
<> cannot instruct, or give man the
needed help on the
<> upward path, without the Mahanta in
human form to act as
<> his instrument and spokesman....
<> "Those who cling to a Master
[such as Jesus Christ]
<> who has been translated from this
earth are in error.
<> He is not dead, but he has left the
field of action in
<> this region of matter. He is no
longer in touch with
<> humanity; his work is elsewhere. The
discipleship of
<> the chela must change to the
successor.
<> "Men must recognize that
feelings provide no proof
<> in religious matters...."
<>
<> Books containing several kinds
of evidence
<> supporting REincarnation, and the
related LAW of
<> RETRIBUTION or KARMA (Galatians 6:7
KJV, Revelation
<> 13:10 KJV, etc.), can be found in
most bookstores and
<> libraries. One of the best of these
books is "Here and
<> Hereafter" by Ruth Montgomery. See
also the book
<> "Journey of Souls: Case Studies of
Life Between Lives",
<> by hypnotherapist Dr. Micheal Newton,
Ph.D., 4th
<> edition, 1995; but note that this
book's references to
<> the "spiritual realms" are actually
LIMITED to the
<> PSYCHIC Planes.
<>
<> Two CLASSIC original Eckankar
books are: "ECKANKAR:
<> The Key to Secret Worlds" and "The
Tiger's Fang", both
<> written by Paul Twitchell.
<>
<> See also
http://www.atomworld.org . "ATOM" here
<> means "Ancient Teachings Of The
Masters". Sri Darwin
<> Gross.
<> For more information, answers to
your questions,
<> etc., please consult my CITED
SOURCES.
<>
<> Robert E.
McElwaine
<> Eckankar
Initiate
<> http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS
<> http://members.aol.com/rem460
<> Preserve BOTH on
CD-R and PRINT-OUTS
<>
<> P.S.: PASS IT ON !
<>
<>
<> "EVERYTHING you know is WRONG."
<> "The Truth IS stranger than fiction."
<> "The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF
WAR."
<> "OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF
ALL."
<> "The more things change, the more they STAY THE
SAME."
<> >
<> >
<> >

Another idiot off his meds.
.



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