Darrell Stec wrote:

Billy wrote:

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Billy wrote:

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Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:

Bill wrote:

This is just a silly question because there is NO
objective verifiable
evidence that the Bibles are the word of ANY god or
Jesus.

As If you had a clue about what evidence is.

Enough blather, Supply the legal evidence. Post it
right here. What
is it? Where was it given?

Budikka

Dr. Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard
University, was
one
of
the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the
famous legal volume
entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by
many the greatest
legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the
Resurrection
of
Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for
all, to expose
the
"myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the
evidence for
the
resurrection - Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite
conclusion! He
wrote
a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the
Four Evangelists
by
the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of
Justice. In which
he
emphatically stated:
"it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted
in affirming
the
truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY
RISEN FROM THE
DEAD,
. . ."
(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the
Four Evangelists
by
the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of
Justice, p.29).

Greenleaf concluded that according to the jurisdiction of
legal evidence
the
resurrection of Jesus Christ was the best supported event
in all of history!
And not only that, Dr. Greenleaf was so convinced by the
overwhelming
evidence, he committed his life to Jesus Christ!

You're talking like Greenleaf is still alive. He died in
1853.

He had no more evidence than what we have today in the NT.
That
evidence has been shown to be fatally flawed. Greenleaf
offered no "legal evidence", he was nothing more than yet
another gullible fool.

Now I specifically asked you to **SUPPLY** the "legal
evidence", not to
tell me about some guy who is a believer. The bible does
not constitute "legal evidence" since we have no one to
testify to its veracity or even to its authorship.

The events told in the gospels are the very thing that's in
question
here! You cannot "legally" use that same story to testify
to its own
authenticity. Even a compelte idiot ought to be able tos ee
that.

You need to come up with thoroughly independent relaible
eye-witness testimony from people we know actually lived and
have some idea as to
their truthfulness to offer "legal evidence". Got that?

If all you can offer is juvenile, clueless, gullible
outbursts of this
nature, then you're not worth my time. Now either actually
summarize
this purportedly "legal evidence" right here in your next
response or
have the honesty and intellectual integrity to admit it does
not exist.

Budikka

So you are challenging me to come up with an independent
reliable eye-witness
of something that happen 2,000 years ago and he has to be
still
alive?

Thabnjs for admitting that your Jesus is no longer alive! But
the
contention is that *he never was alive*. You claim you can
prove this wrong, but you have failed to provide promised
proof.

Clearly you're as dense as all the others I've engaged on this
topic. No, what you have to come up with is what you insisted
you had: this "legal evidence" you claim exists, and since you
failed, then you're
nothing but a liar or an idiot or both. Got it now?

Budikka

When you get mature enough to understand, come back and talk to
me.

Thanks for openly admitting in this world-wide public forum what a
pathetic little LIAR you truly are. What a great witness for
Jesus
*you* make - shrinking like a Limp Peter at the passion! LoL!
Keep
running Silly Billy. It's quite evidently what you do best.

Budikka

It's like trying to teach a new born quantum physics, I'll wait
till you are ready.

I guess by that statement you deem yourself an expert in matters
biblical? Great!! I have a few questions you might help me with,
though like every Fundie I've presented it to, I would venture you
will ignore the little quiz.

**********
How does one determine which might deceive the reader:

vayosef af-adonai lakharot beyisrael vayaset et-david bahem lemor
lekh mene
et-yisrael veet-yehuda


OR THIS

vayaamod satan al-yisrael vayaset et-david limnot et-yisrael

**********
Can you explain what we should do:

lo-taasu avel bamishpat lo-tisa fenei-dal velo tehdarpenei gadol
betsedek tishpot amitekha

OR THIS

me krinete hina me krithete

**********
Which of these is the basis of Christian belief and which do you
believe:

hos de an blasphemese eis to pneuma to hagion ouk echei aphesin eis
ton aiona all enochos estin aioniou kriseos

OR THIS

in hoc omnis qui credit iustificatur

OR THIS

horate toinun oti ex ergon dikaioutai anthropos kai ouk ek pisteos
monon

OR THIS

te gar chariti este sesosmenoi dia tes pisteos kai touto ouk ex humon
theou
to doron ouk ex ergon hina me tis kauchesetai

Kick-***** message, but I doubt you'll get any more of an intelligent or
informative response than I did. Good luck!

Budikka