Religions > Atheism > In the News: Anti-evolution teachings gain foothold in U.S. schools
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30 Nov 2004 05:39:31 PM |
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In the News: Anti-evolution teachings gain foothold in U.S. schools |
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Dover, Pa. -- The way they used to teach the origin of the species to high
school students in this sleepy town of 1,800 people in southern Pennsylvania,
said local school board member Angie Yingling disapprovingly, was that "we come
from chimpanzees and apes."
Not anymore.
The school board has ordered that biology teachers at Dover Area High School
make students "aware of gaps/problems" in the theory of evolution. Their
ninth-grade curriculum now must include the theory of "intelligent design,"
which posits that life is so complex and elaborate that some greater wisdom has
to be behind it.
The decision, passed last month by a 6-to-3 vote, makes the 3,600-student school
district about 20 miles south of Harrisburg the first in the United States to
mandate the teaching of "intelligent design" in public schools, putting it on
the front line of the growing national debate over the role of religion in
public life.
The new curriculum, which prompted two school board members to resign, is
expected to take effect in January. The school principal, Joel Riedel, and
teachers contacted by The Chronicle refused to comment on the changes.
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Read it at
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/11/30/MNGVNA3PE11.DTL
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Mike Dworetsky" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Anti-evolution teachings gain foothold in U.S. schools |
01 Dec 2004 01:25:09 AM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:PPmdnWN4j9CUlTDcRVn-2A@rogers.com...
From the article:
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Dover, Pa. -- The way they used to teach the origin of the species to high
school students in this sleepy town of 1,800 people in southern
Pennsylvania,
said local school board member Angie Yingling disapprovingly, was that "we
come
from chimpanzees and apes."
Not anymore.
The school board has ordered that biology teachers at Dover Area High
School
make students "aware of gaps/problems" in the theory of evolution. Their
ninth-grade curriculum now must include the theory of "intelligent
design,"
which posits that life is so complex and elaborate that some greater
wisdom has
to be behind it.
I'm confused. Everything I have read in t.o and elsewhere says that the
gurus of ID like Behe concede that humans and apes are both descended from a
common ancestor, with no intelligent intervention required for guidance. So
if they aren't teaching ID as the ID-ists present it, just what are they
teaching? Seventh-Day Adventist views of evolution?
Or is there significant disagreement on this point among the small band of
ID adherents? And if there is, why should one of the viewpoints be taught
to the exclusion of the others?
The decision, passed last month by a 6-to-3 vote, makes the 3,600-student
school
district about 20 miles south of Harrisburg the first in the United States
to
mandate the teaching of "intelligent design" in public schools, putting it
on
the front line of the growing national debate over the role of religion in
public life.
The new curriculum, which prompted two school board members to resign, is
expected to take effect in January. The school principal, Joel Riedel, and
teachers contacted by The Chronicle refused to comment on the changes.
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Read it at
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/11/30/MNGVNA3PE11.DTL
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Anti-evolution teachings gain foothold in U.S. schools |
30 Nov 2004 07:38:29 PM |
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Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> writes:
Shouldn't they gain a foothold in laboratories, first?
Elf
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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01 Dec 2004 05:00:14 AM |
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"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message news:<87y8gi23io.fsf@drizzle.com>...
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> writes:
Shouldn't they gain a foothold in laboratories, first?
Elf
Of course not! That would require a credible challenge to evolution.
Increasing ignorance is, by far, more effective.
thomas p
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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30 Nov 2004 11:26:42 PM |
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On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:38:29 +0000 (UTC), "Elf M. Sternberg"
<elf@drizzle.com> said in alt.atheism:
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> writes:
Shouldn't they gain a foothold in laboratories, first?
As experimental subjects.
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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30 Nov 2004 06:12:12 PM |
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Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in
news:PPmdnWN4j9CUlTDcRVn-2A@rogers.com:
From the article:
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Dover, Pa. -- The way they used to teach the origin of the species to
high school students in this sleepy town of 1,800 people in southern
Pennsylvania, said local school board member Angie Yingling
disapprovingly, was that "we come from chimpanzees and apes."
Not anymore.
The school board has ordered that biology teachers at Dover Area High
School make students "aware of gaps/problems" in the theory of
evolution.
Reasonable. Given that there are few gaps or problems with it.
Their ninth-grade curriculum now must include the theory of
"intelligent design," which posits that life is so complex and
elaborate that some greater wisdom has to be behind it.
Small minds posit small beliefs.
The decision, passed last month by a 6-to-3 vote, makes the
3,600-student school district about 20 miles south of Harrisburg the
first in the United States to mandate the teaching of "intelligent
design" in public schools, putting it on the front line of the growing
national debate over the role of religion in public life.
And firmly at the bottom of the ladder for quality of education. Were I an
admissions type at a university, graduating from that school would
automatically require remedial classes in all technical subjects. If they
can't teach evolution right, they can't teach algebra right, either.
The new curriculum, which prompted two school board members to resign,
is expected to take effect in January. The school principal, Joel
Riedel, and teachers contacted by The Chronicle refused to comment on
the changes.
I'd be too embarassed to comment, too, if I were that fucking stupid.
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Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
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| User: "Firelock" |
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01 Dec 2004 08:16:22 AM |
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No 33 Secretary <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95B1A74D4BFC8taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>...
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in
news:PPmdnWN4j9CUlTDcRVn-2A@rogers.com:
The new curriculum, which prompted two school board members to resign,
is expected to take effect in January. The school principal, Joel
Riedel, and teachers contacted by The Chronicle refused to comment on
the changes.
I'd be too embarassed to comment, too, if I were that fucking stupid.
The only "stupid" the principal and teachers are doing is working
at a school that's hit by such rules - the school staff doesn't
make these rules, they just have to follow them. Hopefully
they'll find a way to keep their jobs but still educate the
kids regardless.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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01 Dec 2004 10:22:51 AM |
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(Firelock) wrote in
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No 33 Secretary <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns95B1A74D4BFC8taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>...
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in
news:PPmdnWN4j9CUlTDcRVn-2A@rogers.com:
The new curriculum, which prompted two school board members to
resign, is expected to take effect in January. The school
principal, Joel Riedel, and teachers contacted by The Chronicle
refused to comment on the changes.
I'd be too embarassed to comment, too, if I were that fucking stupid.
The only "stupid" the principal and teachers are doing is working
at a school that's hit by such rules
That's stupid enough.
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Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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| User: "Firelock" |
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02 Dec 2004 10:57:06 AM |
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No 33 Secretary <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95B257BDDA7A5taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>...
firelock_ny@hotmail.com (Firelock) wrote in
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No 33 Secretary <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns95B1A74D4BFC8taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>...
I'd be too embarassed to comment, too, if I were that fucking stupid.
The only "stupid" the principal and teachers are doing is working
at a school that's hit by such rules
That's stupid enough.
Or maybe they're not ready to abandon these kids yet.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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02 Dec 2004 12:18:32 PM |
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(Firelock) wrote in
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No 33 Secretary <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
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I'd be too embarassed to comment, too, if I were that fucking
stupid.
The only "stupid" the principal and teachers are doing is working
at a school that's hit by such rules
That's stupid enough.
Or maybe they're not ready to abandon these kids yet.
They won't help the kids by teaching this *****, rather than quitting in
mass, to force the issue.
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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01 Dec 2004 05:03:08 AM |
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Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message news:<PPmdnWN4j9CUlTDcRVn-2A@rogers.com>...
From the article:
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Dover, Pa. -- The way they used to teach the origin of the species to high
school students in this sleepy town of 1,800 people in southern Pennsylvania,
said local school board member Angie Yingling disapprovingly, was that "we come
from chimpanzees and apes."
Why didn't they teach about evolution instead?
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Read it at
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/11/30/MNGVNA3PE11.DTL
J. Spaceman
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