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In the News: Author uses science, Bible to support creationism |
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
"It's from a creation group called Creation Science Evangelism, and no
one's been able to take it," Brian Young says. "It started out with
$10,000 quite a few years ago and kept getting bigger."
Young says he fell into the trap of evolution himself, for awhile, but
when scientific answers were presented to him he realized, "I'd been
lied to. It changed my life. People need to know the truth. Some lies
in textbooks have been scientifically proven incorrect but are still
there. Textbook companies deal with money, and if schools say they
don't want to teach evolution, they'll change it for that school."
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Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Pithecanthropus erectus" |
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29 Sep 2003 05:32:36 AM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0309270357.4ca18cd@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
"It's from a creation group called Creation Science Evangelism, and no
one's been able to take it," Brian Young says. "It started out with
$10,000 quite a few years ago and kept getting bigger."
Young says he fell into the trap of evolution himself, for awhile, but
when scientific answers were presented to him he realized, "I'd been
lied to. It changed my life. People need to know the truth. Some lies
in textbooks have been scientifically proven incorrect but are still
there. Textbook companies deal with money, and if schools say they
don't want to teach evolution, they'll change it for that school."
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Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
J. Spaceman
What an embarrassment for journalism as a whole? The article served only as
a funnel for Young - no critical thought was placed into this by the author.
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| User: "stoney" |
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05 Oct 2003 03:49:41 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:32:36 +0000 (UTC), "Pithecanthropus erectus"
<tuibguy@comcast.net>, Message ID: <0ZTdb.635113$uu5.101832@sccrnsc04>
wrote in alt.atheism;
"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0309270357.4ca18cd@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
"It's from a creation group called Creation Science Evangelism, and no
one's been able to take it," Brian Young says. "It started out with
$10,000 quite a few years ago and kept getting bigger."
Young says he fell into the trap of evolution himself, for awhile, but
when scientific answers were presented to him he realized, "I'd been
lied to. It changed my life. People need to know the truth. Some lies
in textbooks have been scientifically proven incorrect but are still
there. Textbook companies deal with money, and if schools say they
don't want to teach evolution, they'll change it for that school."
----------------------------
Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
J. Spaceman
What an embarrassment for journalism as a whole? The article served only as
a funnel for Young - no critical thought was placed into this by the author.
Since the author is not capable of critical thought........
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Dr DuFunny" |
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27 Sep 2003 09:37:36 AM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0309270357.4ca18cd@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
"It's from a creation group called Creation Science Evangelism, and no
one's been able to take it," Brian Young says. "It started out with
$10,000 quite a few years ago and kept getting bigger."
Young says he fell into the trap of evolution himself, for awhile, but
when scientific answers were presented to him he realized, "I'd been
lied to. It changed my life. People need to know the truth. Some lies
in textbooks have been scientifically proven incorrect but are still
there. Textbook companies deal with money, and if schools say they
don't want to teach evolution, they'll change it for that school."
----------------------------
Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
J. Spaceman
What happens to the money if no one wins?
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"Everything's better with DuFunny on it."
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| User: "Dana Tweedy" |
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29 Sep 2003 05:15:06 AM |
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"Dr DuFunny" <accordiondoc@mindsproing.cop> wrote in message
news:pmhdb.6179$NX3.4434@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0309270357.4ca18cd@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
"It's from a creation group called Creation Science Evangelism, and no
one's been able to take it," Brian Young says. "It started out with
$10,000 quite a few years ago and kept getting bigger."
Young says he fell into the trap of evolution himself, for awhile, but
when scientific answers were presented to him he realized, "I'd been
lied to. It changed my life. People need to know the truth. Some lies
in textbooks have been scientifically proven incorrect but are still
there. Textbook companies deal with money, and if schools say they
don't want to teach evolution, they'll change it for that school."
----------------------------
Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
J. Spaceman
What happens to the money if no one wins?
The "money" doesn't exist. It's a scam put on by Kent Hovind. The only
evidence that the money exists is Hovid's claim that it was put up by a
"millionare friend". Hovind himself is in serious trouble with the IRS, and
claims he has no personal income.
DJT
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"Everything's better with DuFunny on it."
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| User: "Lane Lewis" |
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29 Sep 2003 12:20:51 PM |
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"Dana Tweedy" <tweedyd@cvn.net> wrote in message
news:bl5054$7fo06$1@ID-35161.news.uni-berlin.de...
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The "money" doesn't exist. It's a scam put on by Kent Hovind. The only
evidence that the money exists is Hovid's claim that it was put up by a
"millionare friend". Hovind himself is in serious trouble with the IRS,
and
claims he has no personal income.
DJT
The James Randi Educational Foundation put the million dollar challenge
money in the form of negotiable bonds, Until Hovind does the same his offer
does not mean anything as they could always claim bankruptcy even if someone
actually could prove there wasn't a god, a bogus demand by any stretch of
the imagination.
JREF [qt]
The Foundation is committed to providing reliable information about
paranormal claims. It both supports and conducts original research into such
claims.
At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under
proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or
occult power or event. The prize is in the form of negotiable bonds held in
a special investment account. The JREF does not involve itself in the
testing procedure, other than helping to design the protocol and approving
the conditions under which a test will take place. All tests are designed
with the participation and approval of the applicant. In most cases, the
applicant will be asked to perform a relatively simple preliminary test of
the claim, which if successful, will be followed by the formal test.
Preliminary tests are usually conducted by associates of the JREF at the
site where the applicant lives. Upon success in the preliminary testing
process, the "applicant" becomes a "claimant."
Lane
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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29 Sep 2003 05:07:28 AM |
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In talk.origins, "Dr DuFunny" <accordiondoc@mindsproing.cop> wrote in
<pmhdb.6179$NX3.4434@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0309270357.4ca18cd@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
"It's from a creation group called Creation Science Evangelism, and no
one's been able to take it," Brian Young says. "It started out with
$10,000 quite a few years ago and kept getting bigger."
Young says he fell into the trap of evolution himself, for awhile, but
when scientific answers were presented to him he realized, "I'd been
lied to. It changed my life. People need to know the truth. Some lies
in textbooks have been scientifically proven incorrect but are still
there. Textbook companies deal with money, and if schools say they
don't want to teach evolution, they'll change it for that school."
----------------------------
Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
J. Spaceman
What happens to the money if no one wins?
What money?
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| User: "Dr. DuFonet" |
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01 Oct 2003 06:45:15 AM |
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"David Jensen" <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote in message
news:l79bnvge7o6pec1ru7rbg765ohg4k4a61l@4ax.com...
In talk.origins, "Dr DuFunny" <accordiondoc@mindsproing.cop> wrote in
<pmhdb.6179$NX3.4434@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0309270357.4ca18cd@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
"It's from a creation group called Creation Science Evangelism, and no
one's been able to take it," Brian Young says. "It started out with
$10,000 quite a few years ago and kept getting bigger."
Young says he fell into the trap of evolution himself, for awhile, but
when scientific answers were presented to him he realized, "I'd been
lied to. It changed my life. People need to know the truth. Some lies
in textbooks have been scientifically proven incorrect but are still
there. Textbook companies deal with money, and if schools say they
don't want to teach evolution, they'll change it for that school."
----------------------------
Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
J. Spaceman
What happens to the money if no one wins?
What money?
The money in the Central Banks, i.e., the Federal Reserve.
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| User: "Kilmir" |
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27 Sep 2003 10:45:48 AM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0309270357.4ca18cd@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
"It's from a creation group called Creation Science Evangelism, and no
one's been able to take it," Brian Young says. "It started out with
$10,000 quite a few years ago and kept getting bigger."
Young says he fell into the trap of evolution himself, for awhile, but
when scientific answers were presented to him he realized, "I'd been
lied to. It changed my life. People need to know the truth. Some lies
in textbooks have been scientifically proven incorrect but are still
there. Textbook companies deal with money, and if schools say they
don't want to teach evolution, they'll change it for that school."
----------------------------
Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
Bleh, the site of that Creation Science Evangelism group is down
(www.drdino.com). I'm wondering what the requirements are of any proof of
macroevolution they accept.
Seems like an easy 250k, but considering creationists habit of making things
up they probably want some rediculous proof like a sheep born out of a horse
or somesuch.
-----Quote-----
"I can support that with science, the Bible, philosophy, theology, you name
it. They all show that the Earth is young. It's scientifically impossible
for the Earth to be millions of years old. The amount of carbon in the
atmosphere shows the Earth can't even be 30,000 years old."
-----/Quote-----
Anyone know what kind of studie or theory he refers to (if any) ?
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Kilmir
AA #1944
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| User: "Brian Westley" |
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27 Sep 2003 11:55:58 AM |
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"Kilmir" <nospam@hotmail.com> writes:
"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0309270357.4ca18cd@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
....
Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
Bleh, the site of that Creation Science Evangelism group is down
(www.drdino.com). I'm wondering what the requirements are of any proof of
macroevolution they accept.
Seems like an easy 250k, but considering creationists habit of making things
up they probably want some rediculous proof like a sheep born out of a horse
or somesuch.
This "offer" is exactly like one of those rigged county fair games
where you see a big stuffed animal that's impossible to win.
There IS no $250,000 and nobody can possibly ever win it.
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "Arne Vogel" |
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27 Sep 2003 12:00:02 PM |
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Kilmir wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0309270357.4ca18cd@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
"It's from a creation group called Creation Science Evangelism, and no
one's been able to take it," Brian Young says. "It started out with
$10,000 quite a few years ago and kept getting bigger."
Young says he fell into the trap of evolution himself, for awhile, but
when scientific answers were presented to him he realized, "I'd been
lied to. It changed my life. People need to know the truth. Some lies
in textbooks have been scientifically proven incorrect but are still
there. Textbook companies deal with money, and if schools say they
don't want to teach evolution, they'll change it for that school."
----------------------------
Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
Bleh, the site of that Creation Science Evangelism group is down
(www.drdino.com). I'm wondering what the requirements are of any proof of
macroevolution they accept.
Seems like an easy 250k, but considering creationists habit of making
things up they probably want some rediculous proof like a sheep born out
of a horse or somesuch.
-----Quote-----
"I can support that with science, the Bible, philosophy, theology, you
name it. They all show that the Earth is young. It's scientifically
impossible for the Earth to be millions of years old. The amount of carbon
in the atmosphere shows the Earth can't even be 30,000 years old."
-----/Quote-----
Anyone know what kind of studie or theory he refers to (if any) ?
--
Kilmir
AA #1944
They refer to Dr. Hovind's bogus challenge:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind.html
He is asking for nothing less than the proof that there
is no god, not the biblical one, nor any other imaginable
or unimaginable deity.
Moreover, the jury to decide the viability of the evidence
will be hand-picked by himself.
Under these circumstances, he could offer a quarter trillion
dollars, nothing will satisfy his requirements.
He's also a coward, having turned down multiple challenges
beforehand.
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Arne Vogel
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| User: "Rick Thorne backwards:" |
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29 Sep 2003 02:35:53 PM |
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Kilmir wrote:
Seems like an easy 250k, but considering creationists habit of making things
up they probably want some rediculous proof like a sheep born out of a horse
or somesuch.
*chuckle*
I was just gonna say - you could walk *up* to them with a shepp born
from a horse and they'd *still* find a reason to deny the claim.
Rick
www.ricksongs.com
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| User: "catshark" |
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29 Sep 2003 05:36:30 AM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:45:48 +0000 (UTC), "Kilmir" <nospam@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <jspaceman@linuxquestions.net> wrote in message
news:b9401f8a.0309270357.4ca18cd@posting.google.com...
From the article:
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For more than five years, there's been a standing offer of a quarter
of a million dollars to anyone who can provide one piece of scientific
evidence supporting macroevolution - the idea that man evolved from
another animal.
"It's from a creation group called Creation Science Evangelism, and no
one's been able to take it," Brian Young says. "It started out with
$10,000 quite a few years ago and kept getting bigger."
Young says he fell into the trap of evolution himself, for awhile, but
when scientific answers were presented to him he realized, "I'd been
lied to. It changed my life. People need to know the truth. Some lies
in textbooks have been scientifically proven incorrect but are still
there. Textbook companies deal with money, and if schools say they
don't want to teach evolution, they'll change it for that school."
----------------------------
Read it at http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/6873341.htm
Bleh, the site of that Creation Science Evangelism group is down
(www.drdino.com). I'm wondering what the requirements are of any proof of
macroevolution they accept.
<Cough>
<http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind.html>
Seems like an easy 250k, but considering creationists habit of making things
up they probably want some rediculous proof like a sheep born out of a horse
or somesuch.
"Somesuch" ain't the half of it . . .
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J. Pieret
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The secret of success is honesty and fair dealing.
If you can fake those, you've got it made.
- Groucho Marx -
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