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"Jason Spaceman" |
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05 Dec 2004 12:04:55 AM |
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In the News: Creationists try to edge around ban |
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BY MARILYN RAUBER
MEDIA GENERAL NEWS SERVICE
Dec 5, 2004
WASHINGTON - Creationism is a mandatory class at Virginia's Liberty
University, a Christian college founded in Lynchburg by evangelist
Jerry Falwell.
"Unlike secular institutions, we give both sides," biology professor
Terry Spohn said.
But it's not just parochial schools that are pushing the biblical
version of how humans were created.
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Read it at
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031779515094
or http://tinyurl.com/48a5j
J. Spaceman
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| User: "TomS" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Creationists try to edge around ban |
05 Dec 2004 07:12:19 AM |
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"On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 06:04:55 +0000 (UTC), in article
<p2a5r0lkvua0odgcfarifpemf41of82251@4ax.com>, Jason Spaceman stated..."
From the article:
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BY MARILYN RAUBER
MEDIA GENERAL NEWS SERVICE
Dec 5, 2004
WASHINGTON - Creationism is a mandatory class at Virginia's Liberty
University, a Christian college founded in Lynchburg by evangelist
Jerry Falwell.
"Unlike secular institutions, we give both sides," biology professor
Terry Spohn said.
But it's not just parochial schools that are pushing the biblical
version of how humans were created.
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Read it at
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031779515094
or http://tinyurl.com/48a5j
I guess that "secular institutions" would include Baylor
University? (For those outside the USA, Baylor is apparently the
largest Baptist university in the world -- and, as a recent thread
on t.o told us, teaches about evolution in its biology classes.)
And, I have to express my wonder about what "both sides" might
be.
On which "side" is the ID-compatible idea of space aliens
designing major features of the world of life on earth?
--
---Tom Scharle <http://talkreason.org/articles/chickegg.cfm>
"If intelligent design is creation theory, it's creation theory through a P.C.
filter. It's like teaching that babies are delivered either by storks or ladies,
while swapping out the word 'stork' for 'some bird' just to make it sound
objective." <http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/morris/041130>
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| User: "Eros" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Creationists try to edge around ban |
05 Dec 2004 09:23:08 PM |
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TomS <TomS_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<cov2c4025rp@drn.newsguy.com>...
"On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 06:04:55 +0000 (UTC), in article
<p2a5r0lkvua0odgcfarifpemf41of82251@4ax.com>, Jason Spaceman stated..."
From the article:
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BY MARILYN RAUBER
MEDIA GENERAL NEWS SERVICE
Dec 5, 2004
WASHINGTON - Creationism is a mandatory class at Virginia's Liberty
University, a Christian college founded in Lynchburg by evangelist
Jerry Falwell.
"Unlike secular institutions, we give both sides," biology professor
Terry Spohn said.
But it's not just parochial schools that are pushing the biblical
version of how humans were created.
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Read it at
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031779515094
or http://tinyurl.com/48a5j
I guess that "secular institutions" would include Baylor
University? (For those outside the USA, Baylor is apparently the
largest Baptist university in the world -- and, as a recent thread
on t.o told us, teaches about evolution in its biology classes.)
Not only that... in 2000, several of Baylor's science professors, as
well as the then university President Robert Sloan, spoke out against
both Creation "science" and ID;-
"Intelligent design is not a science… [Intelligent design] is an old
philosophical argument that has been dressed up as science and has not
undergone substantive peer review in the scientific community." From a
letter by eight Baylor University science professors to Rep. Mark
Souter, R.-Ind. May 10, 2000.
"Materialistic science does not say that there is no God. Rather, it
says that God, due to His supernatural and divine nature, cannot be
proved or disproved, thus we cannot consider His role in the natural
phenomena we observe. Therefore, the existence of God is not a
question within the realm of science." from a letter by eight Baylor
University science professors to Rep. Mark Souter, R.-Ind. May 10,
2000.
"I think [creation science] is not good theology, and I would be
embarrassed for what I understand to be creation science to be taught
at Baylor University." – Baylor University president Robert Sloan,
April 2000.
And, I have to express my wonder about what "both sides" might
be.
Me too.
On which "side" is the ID-compatible idea of space aliens
designing major features of the world of life on earth?
Good question... I have never seen a IDiot even attempt to seriusly
answer that question. Although I can't say I'm surprised!
EROS.
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not
omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he
both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor
willing? Then why call him God?" – Epicurus
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| User: "EjP" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Creationists try to edge around ban |
06 Dec 2004 01:57:15 PM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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BY MARILYN RAUBER
MEDIA GENERAL NEWS SERVICE
Dec 5, 2004
WASHINGTON - Creationism is a mandatory class at Virginia's Liberty
University, a Christian college founded in Lynchburg by evangelist
Jerry Falwell.
Was there ever really much hope for idiots who would go
to a college founded by Jerry Fallwell?
-E
"Unlike secular institutions, we give both sides," biology professor
Terry Spohn said.
But it's not just parochial schools that are pushing the biblical
version of how humans were created.
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Read it at
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031779515094
or http://tinyurl.com/48a5j
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Pete K." |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Creationists try to edge around ban |
06 Dec 2004 03:11:00 PM |
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"EjP" <nospam@hackers.are.bad> wrote in message
news:cp2e23$j8q$2@info4.fnal.gov...
Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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BY MARILYN RAUBER
MEDIA GENERAL NEWS SERVICE
Dec 5, 2004
WASHINGTON - Creationism is a mandatory class at Virginia's Liberty
University, a Christian college founded in Lynchburg by evangelist
Jerry Falwell.
Was there ever really much hope for idiots who would go
to a college founded by Jerry Fallwell?
-E
Around here (SW Virginia), Liberty U. students are referred to as "Jerry's
Kids." I always get a laugh when I hear that.
Pete K.
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