Religions > Atheism > In the News: Critics Fear Creationism Sneaking Into Texas Textbooks
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"Jason Spaceman" |
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08 Aug 2003 02:34:21 PM |
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In the News: Critics Fear Creationism Sneaking Into Texas Textbooks |
From the article:
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SAN ANTONIO (AP) - Responding to suggestions from a group that critics
say advocates the teaching of creation theory, a publisher has made
changes in a biology textbook being considered for Texas schools.
Critics accused publisher Holt, Rinehart & Winston of caving in to
pressure from special interests and conservatives on the state Board
of Education.
The Discovery Institute, a nonprofit think tank in Seattle, argued at
a Board of Education hearing in July that alternatives to commonly
accepted theories of evolution should be included in the textbook to
comply with a state requirement that students analyze competing ideas.
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The rest is at http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=554BD656-F74E-4FB3-86C4-0D6E92FA0D91
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Redmage" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Critics Fear Creationism Sneaking Into Texas Textbooks |
08 Aug 2003 11:45:46 PM |
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I read the linked article, but I didn't get any clear sense of exactly
what changes were made. The only specific referent was a suggestion
that students research alternatives to evolutionary theory on the
Internet - insidious, but not directly harmful.
Does anyone know more?
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Critics Fear Creationism Sneaking Into Texas Textbooks |
09 Aug 2003 12:28:17 AM |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 04:45:46 +0000, Redmage wrote:
I read the linked article, but I didn't get any clear sense of exactly
what changes were made. The only specific referent was a suggestion
that students research alternatives to evolutionary theory on the
Internet - insidious, but not directly harmful.
Better that textbooks should carry warnings not to believe what you find
on the internet!
Believe half of what you read,
None of what you hear,
And the opposite of what you see on the internet.
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Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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| User: "Rich Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Critics Fear Creationism Sneaking Into Texas Textbooks |
09 Aug 2003 07:05:10 AM |
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In <pan.2003.08.09.05.28.15.539010@mail.utexas.edu> , "Bobby D. Bryant"
<bdbryant@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 04:45:46 +0000, Redmage wrote:
I read the linked article, but I didn't get any clear sense of exactly
what changes were made. The only specific referent was a suggestion
that students research alternatives to evolutionary theory on the
Internet - insidious, but not directly harmful.
Better that textbooks should carry warnings not to believe what you find
on the internet!
Believe half of what you read,
None of what you hear,
And the opposite of what you see on the internet.
I don't believe you.
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Rich Johnson
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Critics Fear Creationism Sneaking Into Texas Textbooks |
09 Aug 2003 04:56:40 PM |
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In article <0to9jvouhhdlama971in3po0h5dpfv3jfh@4ax.com>,
Rich Johnson <rpjohnson@mindspring.com> wrote:
In <pan.2003.08.09.05.28.15.539010@mail.utexas.edu> , "Bobby D. Bryant"
<bdbryant@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 04:45:46 +0000, Redmage wrote:
I read the linked article, but I didn't get any clear sense of exactly
what changes were made. The only specific referent was a suggestion
that students research alternatives to evolutionary theory on the
Internet - insidious, but not directly harmful.
Better that textbooks should carry warnings not to believe what you find
on the internet!
Believe half of what you read,
None of what you hear,...
He: Don't believe anything you hear
and only half of what you see.
She: Where did you hear that?
He: Oh, I saw it somewhere.
earle
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| User: "Nokia" |
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09 Aug 2003 07:35:19 AM |
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On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 12:05:10 +0000 (UTC), Rich Johnson
<rpjohnson@mindspring.com> wrote:
In <pan.2003.08.09.05.28.15.539010@mail.utexas.edu> , "Bobby D. Bryant"
<bdbryant@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 04:45:46 +0000, Redmage wrote:
I read the linked article, but I didn't get any clear sense of exactly
what changes were made. The only specific referent was a suggestion
that students research alternatives to evolutionary theory on the
Internet - insidious, but not directly harmful.
Better that textbooks should carry warnings not to believe what you find
on the internet!
Believe half of what you read,
None of what you hear,
And the opposite of what you see on the internet.
I don't believe you.
You're just saying that.
--
Highpriest in the Church Of The Invisible Pink Unicorn
(blessed be her holy hooves)
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| User: "Nokia" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Critics Fear Creationism Sneaking Into Texas Textbooks |
08 Aug 2003 08:26:27 PM |
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0000 (UTC),
(Jason Spaceman) wrote:
The Discovery Institute, a nonprofit think tank in Seattle, argued at
a Board of Education hearing in July that alternatives to commonly
accepted theories of evolution should be included in the textbook to
comply with a state requirement that students analyze competing ideas.
"Alternatives to evolution"
Why not alternatives to gravity?
How about...
-Constant acceleration (9.81 m/s) of earth
-Ozone layer pushes us down
-Giant magnet in earth's core
-Invisible strings
-Magic
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Highpriest in the Church Of The Invisible Pink Unicorn
(blessed be her holy hooves)
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| User: "catshark" |
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08 Aug 2003 11:10:23 PM |
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On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Nokia <nokiamail@hotpop.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0000 (UTC),
(Jason Spaceman) wrote:
The Discovery Institute, a nonprofit think tank in Seattle, argued at
a Board of Education hearing in July that alternatives to commonly
accepted theories of evolution should be included in the textbook to
comply with a state requirement that students analyze competing ideas.
"Alternatives to evolution"
Why not alternatives to gravity?
How about...
-Constant acceleration (9.81 m/s) of earth
-Ozone layer pushes us down
-Giant magnet in earth's core
-Invisible strings
-Magic
You left out Intelligent Grappling:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1024176774.330268%40yasure>
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J. Pieret
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Nunc Id Vides, Nunc Ne Vides
- Unseen University Motto -
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| User: "Mike Dworetsky" |
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09 Aug 2003 04:23:22 AM |
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"catshark" <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ivs8jvg5qq98jsnm3i56k0pi2qd53e3una@4ax.com...
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Nokia <nokiamail@hotpop.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0000 (UTC),
(Jason Spaceman) wrote:
The Discovery Institute, a nonprofit think tank in Seattle, argued at
a Board of Education hearing in July that alternatives to commonly
accepted theories of evolution should be included in the textbook to
comply with a state requirement that students analyze competing ideas.
"Alternatives to evolution"
Why not alternatives to gravity?
How about...
-Constant acceleration (9.81 m/s) of earth
-Ozone layer pushes us down
-Giant magnet in earth's core
-Invisible strings
-Magic
You left out Intelligent Grappling:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1024176774.330268%40yasure>
While we are here, we should also include the infamous "Heavy Boots"
explanation of lunar gravity:
http://www.milk.com/wall-o-shame/heavy_boots.html
--
Mike Dworetsky
(Remove "pants" spamblock to send e-mail)
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| User: "Nokia" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Critics Fear Creationism Sneaking Into Texas Textbooks |
09 Aug 2003 07:26:50 AM |
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On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 09:23:22 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Dworetsky"
<platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> wrote:
While we are here, we should also include the infamous "Heavy Boots"
explanation of lunar gravity:
http://www.milk.com/wall-o-shame/heavy_boots.html
Whoa. How can people be so stupid? Great story.
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Highpriest in the Church Of The Invisible Pink Unicorn
(blessed be her holy hooves)
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Critics Fear Creationism Sneaking Into Texas Textbooks |
08 Aug 2003 03:03:35 PM |
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Jason Spaceman posted an article:
...
The Discovery Institute, a nonprofit think tank in Seattle, argued at
a Board of Education hearing in July that alternatives to commonly
accepted theories of evolution should be included in the textbook to
comply with a state requirement that students analyze competing ideas.
-------------------------------------
The rest is at http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=554BD656-F74E-4FB3-86C4-0D6E92FA0D91
Try this. It won't fracture:
http://snurl.com/2071
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| User: "info-02" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Critics Fear Creationism Sneaking Into Texas Textbooks |
08 Aug 2003 06:43:14 PM |
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"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1030808150156.22033G-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Jason Spaceman posted an article:
...
The Discovery Institute, a nonprofit think tank in Seattle, argued at
a Board of Education hearing in July that alternatives to commonly
accepted theories of evolution should be included in the textbook to
comply with a state requirement that students analyze competing ideas.
-------------------------------------
The rest is at
http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=554BD656-F74E-4FB3-86C4-0D6E92FA0D91
Try this. It won't fracture:
http://snurl.com/2071
----- Why not just offer it as an elective for those interested,
----- instead of getting into a pissing contect?
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| User: "Alan Wright" |
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08 Aug 2003 08:15:05 PM |
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"info-02" <info-02@as-if.com> wrote in message
news:YAWYa.488$R2.457@news.randori.com...
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1030808150156.22033G-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Jason Spaceman posted an article:
...
The Discovery Institute, a nonprofit think tank in Seattle, argued at
a Board of Education hearing in July that alternatives to commonly
accepted theories of evolution should be included in the textbook to
comply with a state requirement that students analyze competing ideas.
-------------------------------------
The rest is at
http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=554BD656-F74E-4FB3-86C4-0D6E92FA0D91
Try this. It won't fracture:
http://snurl.com/2071
----- Why not just offer it as an elective for those interested,
----- instead of getting into a pissing contect?
OK, can I sign up for flat earth theory, pink unicorn theory, and
geocentrism?
These would all need to be electives too.
Alan
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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08 Aug 2003 10:14:42 PM |
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:43:14 +0000 (UTC), "info-02" <info-02@as-if.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
----- Why not just offer it as an elective for those interested,
----- instead of getting into a pissing contect?
They could teach it in the same room in which 2 + 2 = 5 is offered as
an elective.
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"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
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rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Beowulf" |
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11 Aug 2003 01:02:14 PM |
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On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 02:52:45 +0000 (UTC), (Lenny Flank)
ejaculated:
And what, again, was the "alternative to commonly accepted theories of
evolution" that they would like to have taught . . . . ? They never
seemt o mention THAT part . . . . . . .
Sure they do:
goddidit
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"Don't you see Vince, that ***** don't matter. You're judging this the wrong way.
It's not about that. It could be God stopped the bullets, he changed Coke into
Pepsi, he found my fuckin' car keys. You don't judge this ***** based on merit.
Whether or not what we experienced was an according-to Hoyle miracle is
insignificant. What is significant is I felt God's touch. God got involved."
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