If all this comes to pass, I am sure that I will find myself in
jail many times for civil disobedience.

Some advice ---- if you plan on going limp and makign the cops carry
you away, don't wear a belt. They will happily use it as a handle no
matter how much it hurts you.

Me, if things ever get to the point where the Supreme Court starts
rubber-stamping the fundie agenda for the White House in defiance of
the Constitution, then I would consider at that point that we are no
longer a nation of laws, but of men; at that point, respect for the law
is no longer an obligation for any citizen, and we the people
legitimately have the right to defend our democratic rights using
whatever methods might become necessary.

I hope it doesn't come to that.

It might.


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Pithecanthropus Erectus <tuibguy1EGNUM@comcast.net> wrote in
news:1rCdnQm7PbAw5NTfRVn-qw@comcast.com:

Neither the moderate Republicans nor the Democrats can afford at this
point to shrink back in fear of the radical right. It's time to make
a stand. If all this comes to pass, I am sure that I will find myself
in jail many times for civil disobedience.

If the Defense of Marriage Amendment comes to pass in Minnesota, I am
going to use my internet ordination to perform a civil ceremony for a
gay/lesbian couple willing to fight this crap.

Not to throw a spanner in the gears, but how does ordination bear on
civil ceremonies? If the governing authority cannot or will not grant a
license, you're just pissing up a rope.

What we've done here in Washington -- well, okay, in commie Seattle
latte-land -- is to have several hand-picked "respectable" couples ask
the county (King County) for licenses, only to be turned away, so that
they could sue.

The case has been argued before the state Supreme Court; based on my
reading of the arguments, it seems at least possible that our DOMA will
be overturned, leading to the usual pandemonium.

If the laws are rewritten to define ID as science and not religion,
then I will sue professors who teach it as science, just to test the
new "Academic Freedom Act."

I've already lined up a couple of school teachers who are willing to
teach evolution without ID to come at the case from the other direction.
Maybe we'll squish them in the middle.

If the laws are changed to force parental notification on every case
of minor abortion [sic - you mean a minor having an abortion, right?],
regardless of whether the child was raped by her father, then I will
be out on the streets marching for reproductive rights.

Yep.

If the schools are required to teach abstinence-only sex ed by
employing false data and outright lies, then I will be at every school
board meeting creating disruptions.

Again, yep.

My problem is that I live in Seattle. None of that stuff is going to
happen here, and indeed, lefty liberals outnumber the east-side yahoos
so thoroughly (along with a goodly number of libertarians who also don't
want the gummint defining any of that stuff), no state-wide battle of
that sort will be lost here. I hope.

With the possible exception of the same-sex marriage thing; I think a
lot of people lie about that (that is, they say they favor it, but
they'd vote against it). I have no idea why.

Apathy among the general public on this issue is
what will allow them to win, and when they reshape the courts, we will
have no recourse.

True dat. It's like the old Flip Wilson catchphrase: "Here come the
Inquisition! Here come the Inquisition!"

-JAH