Religions > Atheism > In the News: E-mails on creation flap 'swamp' Park Service
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In the News: E-mails on creation flap 'swamp' Park Service |
From today's WingNutDaily.com:
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By Ron Strom
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Thousands of Americans on both sides of a heated debate over a book offered
in a Grand Canyon gift shop have e-mailed their opinions to the National
Park Service in the last several days.
"I'm swamped," David Barna, chief of public affairs for the agency, told
WorldNetDaily. Barna estimated the number of e-mails and phone calls to be
"probably 2,000 easily."
Causing the flow of e-mail is the controversy over a book for sale at the
Grand Canyon that claims the famous area was formed by the Old Testament
flood Noah survived and can be no older than a few thousand years. That
contention has some scientists calling for the book to be pulled from store
shelves. Traditional secular science contends the canyon is millions of
years old.
Organizations such as the American Geological Institute and the American
Institute of Biological Sciences have expressed concern about the book,
saying its presence could leave visitors with the impression that it is
endorsed by the Park Service.
"The Grand Canyon was formed millions of years ago," said William Ausich,
president of the Paleontological Society, according to Religion News
Service. "It is the job of the National Park Service to present the best
scientific information possible to the public, and the book is complete
pseudoscience."
Mark Looy disagrees, saying the canyon is much younger. Looy is vice
president of Answers in Genesis, a creationist organization that
contributed essays to the book.
"The canyon was formed as a result of the aftereffects of Noah's flood, a
worldwide global flood," he said. "Most of the canyon was formed by a lot
of water over a relatively short period of time."
Looy told WND Answers in Genesis appears to be leading the effort of
creationists to let the Park Service know what they think of the call to
remove the book. He says the organization encouraged the 17,000 people on
its e-mail list to contact the Park Service.
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14 Jan 2004 04:49:04 AM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast.com> wrote in message
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From today's WingNutDaily.com:
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By Ron Strom
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Thousands of Americans on both sides of a heated debate over a book
offered
in a Grand Canyon gift shop have e-mailed their opinions to the National
Park Service in the last several days.
"I'm swamped," David Barna, chief of public affairs for the agency, told
WorldNetDaily. Barna estimated the number of e-mails and phone calls to be
"probably 2,000 easily."
Causing the flow of e-mail is the controversy over a book for sale at the
Grand Canyon that claims the famous area was formed by the Old Testament
flood Noah survived and can be no older than a few thousand years. That
contention has some scientists calling for the book to be pulled from
store
shelves. Traditional secular science contends the canyon is millions of
years old.
Organizations such as the American Geological Institute and the American
Institute of Biological Sciences have expressed concern about the book,
saying its presence could leave visitors with the impression that it is
endorsed by the Park Service.
"The Grand Canyon was formed millions of years ago," said William Ausich,
president of the Paleontological Society, according to Religion News
Service. "It is the job of the National Park Service to present the best
scientific information possible to the public, and the book is complete
pseudoscience."
Mark Looy disagrees, saying the canyon is much younger. Looy is vice
president of Answers in Genesis, a creationist organization that
contributed essays to the book.
I think they misspelled his name... shouldn't it be Loony? :)
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| User: "Geoff" |
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14 Jan 2004 10:57:20 AM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast.com> wrote in message
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Looy told WND Answers in Genesis appears to be leading the effort of
creationists to let the Park Service know what they think of the call to
remove the book. He says the organization encouraged the 17,000 people on
its e-mail list to contact the Park Service.
I'm one of those 17,000...*rationalist mole*
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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15 Jan 2004 02:23:15 PM |
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In article <yBeNb.50597$sv6.127249@attbi_s52>,
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast.com> wrote in message
news:bu30s4$ck5ql$1@ID-219258.news.uni-berlin.de...
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Looy told WND Answers in Genesis appears to be leading the effort of
creationists to let the Park Service know what they think of the call to
remove the book. He says the organization encouraged the 17,000 people on
its e-mail list to contact the Park Service.
I'm one of those 17,000...*rationalist mole*
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Shhh!
Me too.
earle
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: E-mails on creation flap 'swamp' Park Service |
15 Jan 2004 02:25:51 PM |
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In article <yBeNb.50597$sv6.127249@attbi_s52>,
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast.com> wrote in message
news:bu30s4$ck5ql$1@ID-219258.news.uni-berlin.de...
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Looy told WND Answers in Genesis appears to be leading the effort of
creationists to let the Park Service know what they think of the call to
remove the book. He says the organization encouraged the 17,000 people on
its e-mail list to contact the Park Service.
I'm one of those 17,000...*rationalist mole*
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So am I -- and I sent the following email to the director and asst.
director of GCNP:
To: joe_alston@nps.gov,
From: Earle Jones <earle.jones@mail.comcast.net>
Subject: Creationism at the Grand Canyon
Cc:
Mr. Alston and Ms. Cannon:
I serve as a Docent/Naturalist at the Año Nuevo State Reserve on the
northern California coast. My job is to interpret nature to some of
our 200,000 visitors each year.
I was very disappointed to learn that the creationist book, "Grand
Canyon: A Different View" is actually being sold at the book store
there. In my opinion, this is a tragic mistake. This is not just
another scientific view of the canyon formation. This is a religious
text that has no place in a government-operated bookshop.
Please read the review of the book by geology professor Wilfred A.
Elders:
http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/bibliolatry_revisited_elders.htm
He points out that, on the contents page of the book you will find:
"All contributions have been peer reviewed to ensure a consistent and
biblical perspective."
Clearly this is not a text that should be offered in a
government-owned and -operated book store. Especially it should not
be offered to those who want to learn more about the fantastic
treasure that is the Grand Canyon. There is a US Government approval
of such a book implied by its presence in your store.
I would strongly encourage you to remove this religious text from your
shops.
Thank you,
Earle Jones
Docent/Naturalist
Año Nuevo State Reserve
Pescadero, California
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Please send an email of your own.
earle
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| User: "David" |
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15 Jan 2004 02:41:16 PM |
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Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote:
So am I -- and I sent the following email to the director and asst.
director of GCNP:
To: joe_alston@nps.gov,
From: Earle Jones <earle.jones@mail.comcast.net>
Subject: Creationism at the Grand Canyon
Cc:
Thanks for e-mail address I just sent one too.
I serve as a Docent/Naturalist at the Año Nuevo State Reserve on the
northern California coast. My job is to interpret nature to some of
our 200,000 visitors each year.
Cool, I went to your park about four years ago. Those elephant seals
are one of natures true wonders. We loved our guided tour, thanks for
all the time you put in to show people like me around. David.
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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15 Jan 2004 07:30:14 PM |
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In article <1g7ly1d.12qkwpn8hehd0N%>,
(David) wrote:
Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote:
So am I -- and I sent the following email to the director and asst.
director of GCNP:
To: joe_alston@nps.gov,
From: Earle Jones <earle.jones@mail.comcast.net>
Subject: Creationism at the Grand Canyon
Cc:
Thanks for e-mail address I just sent one too.
I serve as a Docent/Naturalist at the Ano Nuevo State Reserve on the
northern California coast. My job is to interpret nature to some of
our 200,000 visitors each year.
Cool, I went to your park about four years ago. Those elephant seals
are one of natures true wonders. We loved our guided tour, thanks for
all the time you put in to show people like me around. David.
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Thanks, David. Ano Nuevo is a great place -- it is a real pleasure to
work there. We have about 200 docent/volunteers which means that we
only must commit to working two days a month. But I'm usually over
there two days a week! I live just behind Stanford in the town of
Portola Valley.
We are now approaching the peak of the breeding season -- at the last
census there were about 1500 seals on the beach. By early February
there will be something between 4,000 and 5,000 animals.
Come back and see us again!
earle
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| User: "MarkA" |
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15 Jan 2004 11:09:31 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:57:20 +0000, Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast.com> wrote in message
news:bu30s4$ck5ql$1@ID-219258.news.uni-berlin.de...
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Looy told WND Answers in Genesis appears to be leading the effort of
creationists to let the Park Service know what they think of the call to
remove the book. He says the organization encouraged the 17,000 people
on its e-mail list to contact the Park Service.
I'm one of those 17,000...*rationalist mole*
Shhh! Don't blow your cover! The EAC will send you your orders when the
time comes for the Great Rationalist Uprising.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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