Religions > Atheism > In the News: Engineering Intelligent design in Darby schools
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In the News: Engineering Intelligent design in Darby schools |
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A debate is raging over proposed changes to the science curriculum at
Darby High School including a critical look at origin science as
education in Montana continues to evolve. Nobody wants to specify
precisely what alternatives to evolution may be presented to
tomorrow’s schoolchildren, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to
assume they will include a theory known as intelligent design.
Intelligent design is a school of thought positing an intelligent
designer of life and the universe, aka a creator. Adherents hold that
the universe is put together with such sophistication that it could
not have been created by chaos and chance; there must have been an
engineer involved.
Proponents tout research by leading scientists. Opponents claim that
science is not peer-reviewed.
The proposal was introduced to the Darby community by parent and
ordained minister Curtis Brickley during a presentation to 200 people
on Wednesday, Dec. 10, and seems to be gaining momentum; Brickley
expects to present a policy plan to the school board on Jan. 5.
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Read it at http://www.everyweek.com/News/News.asp?no=3756
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Mike Dworetsky" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Engineering Intelligent design in Darby schools |
24 Dec 2003 03:36:33 AM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <I@Eat.Spammers.For.Breakfast.com> wrote in message
news:h81iuvc4tdfarf675nap5e3j84n6ocidoa@4ax.com...
From the article:
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A debate is raging over proposed changes to the science curriculum at
Darby High School including a critical look at origin science as
education in Montana continues to evolve. Nobody wants to specify
precisely what alternatives to evolution may be presented to
tomorrow's schoolchildren, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to
assume they will include a theory known as intelligent design.
Intelligent design is a school of thought positing an intelligent
designer of life and the universe, aka a creator. Adherents hold that
the universe is put together with such sophistication that it could
not have been created by chaos and chance; there must have been an
engineer involved.
Proponents tout research by leading scientists. Opponents claim that
science is not peer-reviewed.
The proposal was introduced to the Darby community by parent and
ordained minister Curtis Brickley during a presentation to 200 people
on Wednesday, Dec. 10, and seems to be gaining momentum; Brickley
expects to present a policy plan to the school board on Jan. 5.
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Read it at http://www.everyweek.com/News/News.asp?no=3756
I note that the biologist at University of Montana, consulted and quoted by
the newspaper, is named Don Christian. Who, by the way, is against the
teaching of ID in schools because it isn't science.
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Mike Dworetsky
(Remove "pants" spamblock to send e-mail)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Engineering Intelligent design in Darby schools |
24 Dec 2003 12:38:22 AM |
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In article <h81iuvc4tdfarf675nap5e3j84n6ocidoa@4ax.com>,
Jason Spaceman <I@Eat.Spammers.For.Breakfast.com> wrote:
From the article:
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A debate is raging over proposed changes to the science curriculum at
Darby High School including a critical look at origin science as
education in Montana continues to evolve. Nobody wants to specify
precisely what alternatives to evolution may be presented to
tomorrow,s schoolchildren, but it doesn,t take a rocket scientist to
assume they will include a theory known as intelligent design.
Intelligent design is a school of thought positing an intelligent
designer of life and the universe, aka a creator. Adherents hold that
the universe is put together with such sophistication that it could
not have been created by chaos and chance; there must have been an
engineer involved.
Proponents tout research by leading scientists. Opponents claim that
science is not peer-reviewed.
The proposal was introduced to the Darby community by parent and
ordained minister Curtis Brickley during a presentation to 200 people
on Wednesday, Dec. 10, and seems to be gaining momentum; Brickley
expects to present a policy plan to the school board on Jan. 5.
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Read it at http://www.everyweek.com/News/News.asp?no=3756
Usual ID nonsense. Check out the really weird graphic in the article
though.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Engineering Intelligent design in Darby schools |
24 Dec 2003 02:15:54 AM |
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"johac" <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-CF1A19.01361101011904@news-central.ash.giganews.com...
In article <h81iuvc4tdfarf675nap5e3j84n6ocidoa@4ax.com>,
Jason Spaceman <I@Eat.Spammers.For.Breakfast.com> wrote:
From the article:
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A debate is raging over proposed changes to the science curriculum at
Darby High School including a critical look at origin science as
education in Montana continues to evolve. Nobody wants to specify
precisely what alternatives to evolution may be presented to
tomorrow,s schoolchildren, but it doesn,t take a rocket scientist to
assume they will include a theory known as intelligent design.
Intelligent design is a school of thought positing an intelligent
designer of life and the universe, aka a creator. Adherents hold that
the universe is put together with such sophistication that it could
not have been created by chaos and chance; there must have been an
engineer involved.
Proponents tout research by leading scientists. Opponents claim that
science is not peer-reviewed.
The proposal was introduced to the Darby community by parent and
ordained minister Curtis Brickley during a presentation to 200 people
on Wednesday, Dec. 10, and seems to be gaining momentum; Brickley
expects to present a policy plan to the school board on Jan. 5.
------------------------------------------
Read it at http://www.everyweek.com/News/News.asp?no=3756
Usual ID nonsense. Check out the really weird graphic in the article
though.
Yeah, I thought that was kind of a freaky drawing too. That kid's got
serious learning disabilities! Or maybe he's just freaked out by JC on a
cross looming over him. Or could it be he's distracted by the rack on that
angel? Maybe that Twilight Zone eye is messing with his mind, or maybe he's
transfixed by that Vedic goddess in the corner.
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| User: "Dave H." |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Engineering Intelligent design in Darby schools |
24 Dec 2003 08:14:28 AM |
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"Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in message
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"johac" <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-CF1A19.01361101011904@news-central.ash.giganews.com...
In article <h81iuvc4tdfarf675nap5e3j84n6ocidoa@4ax.com>,
Jason Spaceman <I@Eat.Spammers.For.Breakfast.com> wrote:
From the article:
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A debate is raging over proposed changes to the science curriculum at
Darby High School including a critical look at origin science as
education in Montana continues to evolve. Nobody wants to specify
precisely what alternatives to evolution may be presented to
tomorrow,s schoolchildren, but it doesn,t take a rocket scientist to
assume they will include a theory known as intelligent design.
Intelligent design is a school of thought positing an intelligent
designer of life and the universe, aka a creator. Adherents hold that
the universe is put together with such sophistication that it could
not have been created by chaos and chance; there must have been an
engineer involved.
Proponents tout research by leading scientists. Opponents claim that
science is not peer-reviewed.
The proposal was introduced to the Darby community by parent and
ordained minister Curtis Brickley during a presentation to 200 people
on Wednesday, Dec. 10, and seems to be gaining momentum; Brickley
expects to present a policy plan to the school board on Jan. 5.
------------------------------------------
Read it at http://www.everyweek.com/News/News.asp?no=3756
Usual ID nonsense. Check out the really weird graphic in the article
though.
Yeah, I thought that was kind of a freaky drawing too. That kid's got
serious learning disabilities! Or maybe he's just freaked out by JC on a
cross looming over him. Or could it be he's distracted by the rack on that
angel? Maybe that Twilight Zone eye is messing with his mind, or maybe
he's
transfixed by that Vedic goddess in the corner.
What I find interesting about the obvious deficit in the child's ability
to write correctly is the fact that both he *and the teacher seem smug and
proud as they hover over the mis-written word.
I get the message here that creation is a backwards-moving science
subject, they know it, but don't care and are happy 'cause gawd want's it
that way.
Gawd wants us to have wrong perceptions and be happy in them.
(OK, maybe a stretch...)
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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24 Dec 2003 09:37:25 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:38:22 +0000 (UTC), johac
<jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> posted to alt.atheism:
Usual ID nonsense. Check out the really weird graphic in the article
though.
"Darby minister Curtis Brickley wants Darby High School to teach
Intelligent Design theory in science class."
That might be a good idea - if there were such a theory.
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"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
-A. Einstein (1929 -- Einstein Archive 33-272)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Dunk" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Engineering Intelligent design in Darby schools |
29 Dec 2003 08:53:11 AM |
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Jason Spaceman <I@Eat.Spammers.For.Breakfast.com> wrote in message news:<h81iuvc4tdfarf675nap5e3j84n6ocidoa@4ax.com>...
From the article:
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A debate is raging over proposed changes to the science curriculum at
Darby High School including a critical look at origin science as
education in Montana continues to evolve. Nobody wants to specify
precisely what alternatives to evolution may be presented to
tomorrow?s schoolchildren, but it doesn?t take a rocket scientist to
assume they will include a theory known as intelligent design.
Intelligent design is a school of thought positing an intelligent
designer of life and the universe, aka a creator. Adherents hold that
the universe is put together with such sophistication that it could
not have been created by chaos and chance; there must have been an
engineer involved.
Proponents tout research by leading scientists. Opponents claim that
science is not peer-reviewed.
The proposal was introduced to the Darby community by parent and
ordained minister Curtis Brickley during a presentation to 200 people
on Wednesday, Dec. 10, and seems to be gaining momentum; Brickley
expects to present a policy plan to the school board on Jan. 5.
------------------------------------------
Read it at http://www.everyweek.com/News/News.asp?no=3756
More (earlier news stories) from Darby, Montana:
1.)
http://www.ravallinews.com/articles/2003/12/09/news/news02.txt
Where did we come from?:
Darby meeting to discuss teaching intelligent design
By JENNY JOHNSON Staff Reporter
Nearly 80 years after the John Scopes "Monkey" trial helped
established Darwin's theory of evolution as the benchmark in public
science education, a theory known as intelligent design is clamoring
for recognition across the country.
There's a town meeting scheduled in Darby Wednesday from 6:30 to 8:30
p.m. at the junior high gym to discuss the merits of teaching the
concept.
And Darby is no exception. Public education science standards have
long eliminated teaching creationism after the courts decided the
Genesis version of where we came from was a violation of
church-and-state standards. But supporters of the intelligent design
theory argue education standards should include language saying that
Darwin's theory of evolution remains unproved and is challenged by
other theories.
2.)
http://www.ravallinews.com/articles/2003/12/12/news/news02.txt
Intelligent design presentation draws hundreds
By JENNY JOHNSON Staff Reporter
DARBY - More than 200 people turned out for a presentation Wednesday
about teaching an alternative to Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.
Information presented by Darby parent Curtis Brickley struck a chord
with many, but several people were concerned about the slippery slope
of science interpretation based on the premise that there is a
designer of the biological universe.
Brickley gave a two-hour, high-tech presentation on intelligent
design, a biological origin theory that proposes that the intricate
complexity of plants and animals is evidence that life could only be
the work of an intelligent designer, not evolution. He's asked the
Darby School Board to consider adding the ideas of intelligent design
to its high school science curriculum, a step that would thrust Darby
in the national spotlight of science education.
Since the John Scopes "Monkey" trial nearly 80 years ago, Darwin's
1859 theory of evolution has been the benchmark in public science
education. In the last decade, intelligent design has gained the
attention of scientists and others. While the assumption is that there
is a designer of the biologically complex natural world, it stops
short of declaring what or who that intelligent designer might be.
"Evolutionists don't deny the complexity of design," Brickley said.
3.)
http://www.montanaforum.com/rednews/2003/12/11/build/education/evolution.php?nnn=4
Intelligent design presentation draws hundreds
By JENNY JOHNSON
Ravalli Republic
DARBY – More than 200 people turned out for a presentation Wednesday
about teaching an alternative to Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.
Information presented by Darby parent Curtis Brickley struck a chord
with many, but several people were concerned about the slippery slope
of science interpretation based on the premise that there is a
designer of the biological universe.
Brickley gave a two-hour, high-tech presentation on intelligent
design, a biological origin theory that proposes that the intricate
complexity of plants and animals is evidence that life could only be
the work of an intelligent designer, not evolution. He's asked the
Darby School Board to consider adding the ideas of intelligent design
to its high school science curriculum, a step that would thrust Darby
in the national spotlight of science education.
Since the John Scopes "Monkey" trial nearly 80 years ago, Darwin's
1859 theory of evolution has been the benchmark in public science
education. In the last decade, intelligent design has gained the
attention of scientists and others. While the assumption is that there
is a designer of the biologically complex natural world, it stops
short of declaring what or who that intelligent designer might be.
On the Net
* Natural History magazine: Intelligent Design?
* Intelligent Design Network
* The Skeptics Dictionery: Intelligent Design
* Origins: Philosophical theism and intelligent design resources
* Professors: Intelligent design not science
* Intelligent Design and Evolution Awareness (IDEA) Center
* AAAS Board Resolution on Intelligent Design Theory
* Intelligent Design: Humans, cockroaches, and the Laws of Physics
* Boston Review: Book Review of ‘No Free Lunch'
"Evolutionists don't deny the complexity of design," Brickley said.
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Dunk
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| User: "Desertphile" |
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29 Dec 2003 05:38:07 AM |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 03:18:18 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<I@Eat.Spammers.For.Breakfast.com> wrote:
Intelligent design is a school of thought positing an intelligent
designer of life and the universe, aka a creator. Adherents hold that
the universe is put together with such sophistication that it could
not have been created by chaos and chance; there must have been an
engineer involved.
In other words, "ID" is predicated upon IGNORANCE, and proponents of
"ID" admit it. They claim that because *THEY* do not know how
something happened, magick must have been used.
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http://desertphile.org
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"Scientology: the 'science' of making money." http://holysmoke.org/theta.htm
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