Religions > Atheism > In the News: Evolution, 'intelligent design' share deskspace
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In the News: Evolution, 'intelligent design' share deskspace |
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DOVER, Pa. - "God or Darwin?"
Lark Myers, a blond, 45-year-old gift shop owner, frames the question
and answers it. "I definitely would prefer to believe that God created
me than that I'm 50th cousin to a silverback ape," she said. "What's
wrong with wanting our children to hear about all the holes in the
theory of evolution?"
Charles Darwin, squeeze over. The school board in this small town in
central Pennsylvania has voted to make the theory of evolution share a
seat with another theory: God probably designed us.
If it survives a legal test, this school district of about 2,800
students could become the first in the nation to require that high
school science teachers at least mention the "intelligent design"
theory. This theory holds that human biology and evolution is so
complex as to require the creative hand of an intelligent force.
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Read it at http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6754888/
J. Spaceman
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| Title: Re: In the News: Evolution, 'intelligent design' share deskspace |
27 Dec 2004 02:12:44 AM |
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In article <sbdts01leu038ipn59ab9jv7uj35mc6mn1@4ax.com>,
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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DOVER, Pa. - "God or Darwin?"
Lark Myers, a blond, 45-year-old gift shop owner, frames the question
and answers it. "I definitely would prefer to believe that God created
me than that I'm 50th cousin to a silverback ape," she said. "What's
wrong with wanting our children to hear about all the holes in the
theory of evolution?"
If she made a comment like that, she should go back to school and learn
some biology too.
Charles Darwin, squeeze over. The school board in this small town in
central Pennsylvania has voted to make the theory of evolution share a
seat with another theory: God probably designed us.
If it survives a legal test, this school district of about 2,800
students could become the first in the nation to require that high
school science teachers at least mention the "intelligent design"
theory. This theory holds that human biology and evolution is so
complex as to require the creative hand of an intelligent force.
Then maybe they will invite their god to come and lecture the class and
explain all of the mistakes in his 'design'.
Science class is for science. Keep mythology out of it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "Dan Clore" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Evolution, 'intelligent design' share deskspace |
27 Dec 2004 07:08:47 AM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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DOVER, Pa. - "God or Darwin?"
Lark Myers, a blond, 45-year-old gift shop owner, frames the question
and answers it. "I definitely would prefer to believe that God created
me than that I'm 50th cousin to a silverback ape," she said.
Too damn bad that wanting something to be so doesn't make it
so, then.
--
Dan Clore
My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587154838/thedanclorenecro
Lord We˙rdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9879/
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
-- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"
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| User: "Seppo Pietikainen" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Evolution, 'intelligent design' share deskspace |
27 Dec 2004 07:39:42 AM |
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Dan Clore wrote:
Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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DOVER, Pa. - "God or Darwin?"
Lark Myers, a blond, 45-year-old gift shop owner, frames the question
and answers it. "I definitely would prefer to believe that God created
me than that I'm 50th cousin to a silverback ape," she said.
Too damn bad that wanting something to be so doesn't make it
so, then.
What? Even if the odds were fifty-fifty?
I mean, if I asked to date Hale Berry, what else could
she say but "yes" or "no" (perhaps not with those exact words).
Seppo P.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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27 Dec 2004 07:58:39 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:39:42 +0000 (UTC), Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
Dan Clore wrote:
Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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DOVER, Pa. - "God or Darwin?"
Lark Myers, a blond, 45-year-old gift shop owner, frames the question
and answers it. "I definitely would prefer to believe that God created
me than that I'm 50th cousin to a silverback ape," she said.
Too damn bad that wanting something to be so doesn't make it
so, then.
What? Even if the odds were fifty-fifty?
I mean, if I asked to date Hale Berry, what else could
she say but "yes" or "no" (perhaps not with those exact words).
Except that the odds wouldn't be 50-50.
Seppo P.
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| User: "Seppo Pietikainen" |
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27 Dec 2004 08:18:13 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:39:42 +0000 (UTC), Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
Dan Clore wrote:
Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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DOVER, Pa. - "God or Darwin?"
Lark Myers, a blond, 45-year-old gift shop owner, frames the question
and answers it. "I definitely would prefer to believe that God created
me than that I'm 50th cousin to a silverback ape," she said.
Too damn bad that wanting something to be so doesn't make it
so, then.
What? Even if the odds were fifty-fifty?
I mean, if I asked to date Hale Berry, what else could
she say but "yes" or "no" (perhaps not with those exact words).
Except that the odds wouldn't be 50-50.
Seppo P.
Nooo! But she only can say either yes or no? Dat's 50% odds, ain't it? :)
Seppo P.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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27 Dec 2004 08:28:14 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:18:13 +0000 (UTC), Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
What? Even if the odds were fifty-fifty?
I mean, if I asked to date Hale Berry, what else could
she say but "yes" or "no" (perhaps not with those exact words).
Except that the odds wouldn't be 50-50.
Seppo P.
Nooo! But she only can say either yes or no? Dat's 50% odds, ain't it? :)
Sorry, I thought you were serious - we've had too many brain dead
theists thinking that when there were binary alternatives the
either/or made it 50-50 odds.
Either the next card is an ace or it isn't.
I'm a lousy poker player but even I could take them to the cleaners.
Seppo P.
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| User: "Seppo Pietikainen" |
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27 Dec 2004 08:44:51 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:18:13 +0000 (UTC), Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
What? Even if the odds were fifty-fifty?
I mean, if I asked to date Hale Berry, what else could
she say but "yes" or "no" (perhaps not with those exact words).
Except that the odds wouldn't be 50-50.
Seppo P.
Nooo! But she only can say either yes or no? Dat's 50% odds, ain't it? :)
Sorry, I thought you were serious - we've had too many brain dead
theists thinking that when there were binary alternatives the
either/or made it 50-50 odds.
Either the next card is an ace or it isn't.
I'm a lousy poker player but even I could take them to the cleaners.
Seppo P.
I'm sorry, maybe I should have clarified somewhere that I'm trying to
get hang of this "creationist probability calculation" -stuff.
Seppo P.
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| User: "bloodyvikings" |
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26 Dec 2004 10:43:15 AM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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DOVER, Pa. - "God or Darwin?"
Lark Myers, a blond, 45-year-old gift shop owner, frames the question
and answers it. "I definitely would prefer to believe that God created
me than that I'm 50th cousin to a silverback ape," she said. "What's
wrong with wanting our children to hear about all the holes in the
theory of evolution?"
Charles Darwin, squeeze over. The school board in this small town in
central Pennsylvania has voted to make the theory of evolution share a
seat with another theory: God probably designed us.
If it survives a legal test, this school district of about 2,800
students could become the first in the nation to require that high
school science teachers at least mention the "intelligent design"
theory. This theory holds that human biology and evolution is so
complex as to require the creative hand of an intelligent force.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Read it at http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6754888/
J. Spaceman
American kids have led a sheltered life. I was subjected to daily
worship and bi-weekly R.E. from age 5 to 13. It didn't do me any harm.
Any teacher worth their salt will handle it with the skepticism it
merits, any 8 year old worth their breakfast will tear the logic of ID
to pieces.
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