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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Jason Spaceman"
Date: 13 May 2005 06:27:12 AM
Object: In the News: 'Intelligent design' debate crowds school board election ballot
From the article:
--------------------------------------------
5/12/2005, 3:55 p.m. ET
By MARTHA RAFFAELE
The Associated Press
DOVER, Pa. (AP) — On opposite sides of this rural community, two
billboards touting opposing slates of candidates for the school board
illustrate a deep divide over a recent change to the high school's
science curriculum.
One sign describes the seven sitting board members as "the INTELLIGENT
choice," a reference to a mandate for ninth-grade students to hear a
statement about "intelligent design" during evolution lessons in
biology class.
The other shouts, "It's time for a new school board in Dover!" on
behalf of seven opponents backed by a citizens' group that opposes the
policy on intelligent design — a concept that challenges the theory of
evolution by saying the universe is so complex, it must have been
created by an unspecified guiding force.
Tuesday's primary election promises to be a battle royal among 18
candidates evenly divided over the intelligent-design mandate, which
is the subject of a federal lawsuit scheduled to go to trial in
September. The field also includes two board members who resigned in
the months after the board adopted the policy by a 6-3 vote in
October, an apparent first in the nation.
-------------------------------------------------
Read it at
http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-26/111592718457170.xml&storylist=
or http://tinyurl.com/75jfq
J. Spaceman
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User: "Jason Spaceman"

Title: Re: In the News: 'Intelligent design' debate crowds school board election ballot 14 May 2005 07:51:23 AM
A picture of the two billboards is at
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2005-05-13-intelligent-design-dover-pa_x.htm
J. Spaceman
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User: "Trypt"

Title: Re: In the News: 'Intelligent design' debate crowds school boardelection ballot 14 May 2005 04:23:03 PM
Jason Spaceman wrote:

From the article:
--------------------------------------------
5/12/2005, 3:55 p.m. ET
By MARTHA RAFFAELE
The Associated Press

DOVER, Pa. (AP) — On opposite sides of this rural community, two
billboards touting opposing slates of candidates for the school board
illustrate a deep divide over a recent change to the high school's
science curriculum.

One sign describes the seven sitting board members as "the INTELLIGENT
choice," a reference to a mandate for ninth-grade students to hear a
statement about "intelligent design" during evolution lessons in
biology class.

The other shouts, "It's time for a new school board in Dover!" on
behalf of seven opponents backed by a citizens' group that opposes the
policy on intelligent design — a concept that challenges the theory of
evolution by saying the universe is so complex, it must have been
created by an unspecified guiding force.

Tuesday's primary election promises to be a battle royal among 18
candidates evenly divided over the intelligent-design mandate, which
is the subject of a federal lawsuit scheduled to go to trial in
September. The field also includes two board members who resigned in
the months after the board adopted the policy by a 6-3 vote in
October, an apparent first in the nation.
-------------------------------------------------

Read it at
http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-26/111592718457170.xml&storylist=
or http://tinyurl.com/75jfq






J. Spaceman

What I'll never understand is what in the world "universe creation by an
unspecified force" has to do with evolution?
Evolution is not the study of origin of life or the origin of the
universe, so wtf is going on here? Have these people lost their minds?
--
Regards from Trypt!
trypt2000@(remove)yahoo.com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: In the News: 'Intelligent design' debate crowds school boardelection ballot 17 May 2005 12:02:06 PM
On Sat, 14 May 2005 17:23:03 -0400, Trypt <trypt2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Jason Spaceman wrote:

From the article:
--------------------------------------------
5/12/2005, 3:55 p.m. ET
By MARTHA RAFFAELE
The Associated Press

DOVER, Pa. (AP) — On opposite sides of this rural community, two
billboards touting opposing slates of candidates for the school board
illustrate a deep divide over a recent change to the high school's
science curriculum.

One sign describes the seven sitting board members as "the INTELLIGENT
choice," a reference to a mandate for ninth-grade students to hear a
statement about "intelligent design" during evolution lessons in
biology class.

The other shouts, "It's time for a new school board in Dover!" on
behalf of seven opponents backed by a citizens' group that opposes the
policy on intelligent design — a concept that challenges the theory of
evolution by saying the universe is so complex, it must have been
created by an unspecified guiding force.

Tuesday's primary election promises to be a battle royal among 18
candidates evenly divided over the intelligent-design mandate, which
is the subject of a federal lawsuit scheduled to go to trial in
September. The field also includes two board members who resigned in
the months after the board adopted the policy by a 6-3 vote in
October, an apparent first in the nation.
-------------------------------------------------

Read it at
http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-26/111592718457170.xml&storylist=
or http://tinyurl.com/75jfq
J. Spaceman

What I'll never understand is what in the world "universe creation by an
unspecified force" has to do with evolution?

Evolution is not the study of origin of life or the origin of the
universe, so wtf is going on here? Have these people lost their minds?

1) They've never had a mind to lose.
2) Terminal ignorance and casual bearing of false witness.
Ignorant bronze age mindless cretins making educational decisions.
The irony is universe shattering.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.

User: "shane"

Title: Re: In the News: 'Intelligent design' debate crowds school boardelectionballot 14 May 2005 08:55:22 PM
Trypt wrote:

Jason Spaceman wrote:

From the article:
--------------------------------------------
5/12/2005, 3:55 p.m. ET
By MARTHA RAFFAELE
The Associated Press

DOVER, Pa. (AP) — On opposite sides of this rural community, two
billboards touting opposing slates of candidates for the school board
illustrate a deep divide over a recent change to the high school's
science curriculum.

One sign describes the seven sitting board members as "the INTELLIGENT
choice," a reference to a mandate for ninth-grade students to hear a
statement about "intelligent design" during evolution lessons in
biology class.

The other shouts, "It's time for a new school board in Dover!" on
behalf of seven opponents backed by a citizens' group that opposes the
policy on intelligent design — a concept that challenges the theory of
evolution by saying the universe is so complex, it must have been
created by an unspecified guiding force.

Tuesday's primary election promises to be a battle royal among 18
candidates evenly divided over the intelligent-design mandate, which
is the subject of a federal lawsuit scheduled to go to trial in
September. The field also includes two board members who resigned in
the months after the board adopted the policy by a 6-3 vote in
October, an apparent first in the nation.
-------------------------------------------------

Read it at
http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-26/111592718457170.xml&storylist=
or http://tinyurl.com/75jfq






J. Spaceman



What I'll never understand is what in the world "universe creation by an
unspecified force" has to do with evolution?

Evolution is not the study of origin of life or the origin of the
universe, so wtf is going on here? Have these people lost their minds?

Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Absolutely
--
shane
.

User: "island"

Title: Re: In the News: 'Intelligent design' debate crowds school boardelection ballot 17 May 2005 03:39:55 PM
Trypt wrote:

Jason Spaceman wrote:

From the article:
--------------------------------------------
5/12/2005, 3:55 p.m. ET
By MARTHA RAFFAELE
The Associated Press

DOVER, Pa. (AP) - On opposite sides of this rural community, two
billboards touting opposing slates of candidates for the school

board

illustrate a deep divide over a recent change to the high school's
science curriculum.

One sign describes the seven sitting board members as "the

INTELLIGENT

choice," a reference to a mandate for ninth-grade students to hear

a

statement about "intelligent design" during evolution lessons in
biology class.

The other shouts, "It's time for a new school board in Dover!" on
behalf of seven opponents backed by a citizens' group that opposes

the

policy on intelligent design - a concept that challenges the

theory of

evolution by saying the universe is so complex, it must have been
created by an unspecified guiding force.

Tuesday's primary election promises to be a battle royal among 18
candidates evenly divided over the intelligent-design mandate,

which

is the subject of a federal lawsuit scheduled to go to trial in
September. The field also includes two board members who resigned

in

the months after the board adopted the policy by a 6-3 vote in
October, an apparent first in the nation.
-------------------------------------------------

Read it at

http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-26/111592718457170.xml&storylist=

or http://tinyurl.com/75jfq






J. Spaceman

What I'll never understand is what in the world "universe creation by

an

unspecified force" has to do with evolution?

..
They're eluding to the fact that the mechanistic nature of our observed
universe implies that there is a higher level force driving the
organization, order, and complexity of its systems toward a specified
"goal"... and this includes humans and evolution.
They want that force to be God, so they won't face up to the fact that
this kind of thing can also be explained without the need for
supernatural forces.
They're greatest success will be to create a new level of the same lame
controversy because there are a lot of sane people out there that will
associate the function of systems with what they percieve to be purpose
in nature. If a higher system drives the rest, then there is no
difference... from the perspective individuals, because your function
becomes your purpose in the higher level game.
..

Evolution is not the study of origin of life or the origin of the
universe, so wtf is going on here? Have these people lost their

minds?


--
Regards from Trypt!
trypt2000@(remove)yahoo.com

.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: In the News: 'Intelligent design' debate crowds school board election ballot 17 May 2005 12:00:04 PM
On Fri, 13 May 2005 07:27:12 -0400, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:

From the article:
--------------------------------------------
5/12/2005, 3:55 p.m. ET
By MARTHA RAFFAELE
The Associated Press

DOVER, Pa. (AP) — On opposite sides of this rural community, two
billboards touting opposing slates of candidates for the school board
illustrate a deep divide over a recent change to the high school's
science curriculum.

With the current school board, it's "BenD over, Pa."
[]
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.


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