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02 Jan 2005 01:54:50 AM |
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In the News: Lesson will be brief, attorney says |
From the article:
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The attorney for the Dover Area School District said no one will be
teaching intelligent design.
But lawyers for the 11 parents suing the district said they’d still
like to get that on the record from the people who fought to get the
concept in the science curriculum.
The entire statement on the subject of intelligent design in next
semester’s ninth-grade biology class will take about a minute, said
Richard Thompson, president of the Thomas More Law Center, which is
representing the district.
And because intelligent design — the concept that life is too complex
to have evolved through natural selection, and therefore must have
been created by an intelligent designer — is only “mentioned,”
Thompson said; it’s not being “taught.”
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Read it at http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/54313/
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02 Jan 2005 06:39:27 PM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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The attorney for the Dover Area School District said no one will be
teaching intelligent design.
But lawyers for the 11 parents suing the district said they’d still
like to get that on the record from the people who fought to get the
concept in the science curriculum.
The entire statement on the subject of intelligent design in next
semester’s ninth-grade biology class will take about a minute, said
Richard Thompson, president of the Thomas More Law Center, which is
representing the district.
And because intelligent design — the concept that life is too complex
to have evolved through natural selection, and therefore must have
been created by an intelligent designer — is only “mentioned,”
Thompson said; it’s not being “taught.”
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Read it at http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/54313/
The wedge wins. One camel's nose under the tent flap, coming up.
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Tom McDonald
http://ahwhatdoiknow.blogspot.com/
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03 Jan 2005 01:08:23 PM |
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 00:39:27 +0000 (UTC), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Tom McDonald
<tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net.lga.highwinds-media.com>:
Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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The attorney for the Dover Area School District said no one will be
teaching intelligent design.
But lawyers for the 11 parents suing the district said they’d still
like to get that on the record from the people who fought to get the
concept in the science curriculum.
The entire statement on the subject of intelligent design in next
semester’s ninth-grade biology class will take about a minute, said
Richard Thompson, president of the Thomas More Law Center, which is
representing the district.
And because intelligent design — the concept that life is too complex
to have evolved through natural selection, and therefore must have
been created by an intelligent designer — is only “mentioned,”
Thompson said; it’s not being “taught.”
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Read it at http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/54313/
The wedge wins. One camel's nose under the tent flap, coming up.
Perhaps. But I prefer to think that a stated dismissal of
the concept, which I suspect will be the only "mention"
made, will be of benefit to science rather than the reverse.
We'll see...
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Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
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02 Jan 2005 11:38:19 AM |
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> said in alt.atheism:
And because intelligent design — the concept that life is too complex
to have evolved through natural selection, and therefore must have
been created by an intelligent designer — is only “mentioned,”
Thompson said; it’s not being “taught.”
Then he should have no problem with religion being "mentioned" as pure
*****.
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02 Jan 2005 06:53:30 AM |
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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The attorney for the Dover Area School District said no one will be
teaching intelligent design.
But lawyers for the 11 parents suing the district said they’d still
like to get that on the record from the people who fought to get the
concept in the science curriculum.
The entire statement on the subject of intelligent design in next
semester’s ninth-grade biology class will take about a minute,
Well, there you have it folks. ID is officially worth only a minute of
your time.
said
Richard Thompson, president of the Thomas More Law Center, which is
representing the district.
And because intelligent design — the concept that life is too complex
to have evolved through natural selection, and therefore must have
been created by an intelligent designer — is only “mentioned,”
Thompson said; it’s not being “taught.”
It is nothing but the sticker to paste on childrens' minds, instead of on
their textbooks.
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J. Pieret
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We have done amazingly well in creating a cultural movement,
but we must not exaggerate ID's successes on the scientific front.
- William A. Dembski -
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04 Jan 2005 01:02:40 AM |
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"catshark" <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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The attorney for the Dover Area School District said no one will be
teaching intelligent design.
But lawyers for the 11 parents suing the district said they’d still
like to get that on the record from the people who fought to get the
concept in the science curriculum.
The entire statement on the subject of intelligent design in next
semester’s ninth-grade biology class will take about a minute,
Well, there you have it folks. ID is officially worth only a minute of
your time.
One can't help suspecting the school board members allotted a significant
portion of the school year to ID, sat down to come up with a detailed
curriculum to fill that time, then realized they had nothing to say except
"poof" and cut down the classroom time accordingly.
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04 Jan 2005 05:55:27 AM |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 07:02:40 +0000 (UTC), "Adam Marczyk"
<ebonmuse@deletethis.hotmail.com> wrote:
"catshark" <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ibsft0dk9g4u87ds1anom63rag9gs97esu@4ax.com
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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The attorney for the Dover Area School District said no one will be
teaching intelligent design.
But lawyers for the 11 parents suing the district said they’d still
like to get that on the record from the people who fought to get the
concept in the science curriculum.
The entire statement on the subject of intelligent design in next
semester’s ninth-grade biology class will take about a minute,
Well, there you have it folks. ID is officially worth only a minute of
your time.
One can't help suspecting the school board members allotted a significant
portion of the school year to ID, sat down to come up with a detailed
curriculum to fill that time, then realized they had nothing to say except
"poof" and cut down the classroom time accordingly.
Or the Board's lawyers are doing their best to keep them from shooting
themselves in the *other* foot:
Early Monday afternoon, Angie Yingling seemed optimistic that her
fellow members of the Dover Area School Board might come to some
kind of arrangement that would end the intelligent design lawsuit
against both them and the district. But at the school board meeting
later Monday night, neither the board nor administration gave any
indication that that would be the case. ...
Earlier in the day, several members of the board gave depositions
in Harrisburg in response to the lawsuit including Harkins, Alan
Bonsell and William Buckingham. Beth Eveland, who is one of the
11 parents suing the district, was at the depositions.
“From the tone of the depositions, it looks like there is no room
for change or compromise,” she said. “This thing looks like it’s
still full steam ahead.”
Board members, however, declined to discuss the case.
“I have nothing to say on the advice of my legal counsel,”
Buckingham said.
Those words represented the theme for the evening from the board
and administration.
During the public comments section resident Gina Myers went to
the podium to ask about what she had been reading on the
intelligent design issue, but was cut off by Harkins.
“Comments are limited only to agenda items,” Harkins said.
Myers, who had wanted to speak out in defense of the school
board’s decision, shyly apologized and returned to her seat.
Behind her, fellow resident Sharon Wetzel said to people nearby
Myers that she should have been allowed to speak.
<http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/54452/>
The Board is caught between a rock for the ages and a place harder than
gopher wood. They've stirred up this hornet's nest and the Discovery
Institute has pushed them out of the lifeboat to save the Wedge's latest
sub-rosa incarnation. The lawyers are telling them that the DI's
statements have sunk any chance they can tell a Federal judge that ID is
science and keep a straight face. But, as shown by the woman at the
meeting, their supporters in the community have yet to get the message.
Indeed, if the reports of the depositions are correct, the Board itself may
not have gotten the message yet. In any case, they can't retreat and they
can't do what they intended, so the lawyers are trying to minimize it in
hopes the judge may let a little wave in the direction of religion.
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J. Pieret
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LAWYER, n.
One skilled in circumvention of the law.
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02 Jan 2005 05:06:39 PM |
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005, catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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The attorney for the Dover Area School District said no one will be
teaching intelligent design.
But lawyers for the 11 parents suing the district said they’d still
like to get that on the record from the people who fought to get the
concept in the science curriculum.
The entire statement on the subject of intelligent design in next
semester’s ninth-grade biology class will take about a minute,
Well, there you have it folks. ID is officially worth only a minute of
your time.
That's about how long it takes to summarize their claims, and no additional
time is needed for going over evidence.
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Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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03 Jan 2005 07:28:32 PM |
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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The attorney for the Dover Area School District said no one will be
teaching intelligent design.
But lawyers for the 11 parents suing the district said they’d still
like to get that on the record from the people who fought to get the
concept in the science curriculum.
The entire statement on the subject of intelligent design in next
semester’s ninth-grade biology class will take about a minute, said
Richard Thompson, president of the Thomas More Law Center, which is
representing the district.
And because intelligent design — the concept that life is too complex
to have evolved through natural selection, and therefore must have
been created by an intelligent designer — is only “mentioned,”
Thompson said; it’s not being “taught.”
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Read it at http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/54313/
That is being taught.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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04 Jan 2005 12:58:11 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:28:32 +0000 (UTC), stoney <stoney@the.net> said
in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
Read it at http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/54313/
That is being taught.
"In the meantime, teachers also say they’re still not sure how they’re
supposed to comply with the board’s decision. Bertha Spahr, who heads
the district’s science department, said last month that a problem
could occur after the statement is read to the students. Once this
topic is introduced, Miller said, she wonders how many questions will
be asked."
"I have to read the following to you. There will be no discussion,
you will merely listen, then we'll get back to science."
I wonder how the cretinists would react to that?
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"We should do unto others as we would want them to do unto us. If I were an unborn
fetus I would want others to use force to protect me, therefore using force against
abortionists is *justifiable homocide*."
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04 Jan 2005 01:19:56 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:4sqlt09dli1q390i5o2gsmf7j02r89sg8m@4ax.com...
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:28:32 +0000 (UTC), stoney <stoney@the.net> said
in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
Read it at http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/54313/
That is being taught.
"In the meantime, teachers also say they're still not sure how they're
supposed to comply with the board's decision. Bertha Spahr, who heads
the district's science department, said last month that a problem
could occur after the statement is read to the students. Once this
topic is introduced, Miller said, she wonders how many questions will
be asked."
"I have to read the following to you. There will be no discussion,
you will merely listen, then we'll get back to science."
I wonder how the cretinists would react to that?
Tongue-in-cheek though I'm sure your suggestion is, I have to make clear
that this is a terrible idea. It just encourages creationists' belief that
their views are somehow being 'censored'. Far better to allow questions -
any science teacher even vaguely worth their salt should be able to field
any of the responses that come up.
Danny
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05 Jan 2005 01:24:13 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:19:56 +0000 (UTC), "Danny Kodicek"
<usenet@well-spring.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:4sqlt09dli1q390i5o2gsmf7j02r89sg8m@4ax.com...
"I have to read the following to you. There will be no discussion,
you will merely listen, then we'll get back to science."
I wonder how the cretinists would react to that?
Tongue-in-cheek though I'm sure your suggestion is, I have to make clear
that this is a terrible idea. It just encourages creationists' belief that
their views are somehow being 'censored'. Far better to allow questions -
any science teacher even vaguely worth their salt should be able to field
any of the responses that come up.
To the satisfaction of any IDers? "Some people believe that a god
created everything, but there's never been any actual scientific
evidence of any god. And this *is* a science class." Uh huh. What
other answers can you give to totally meaningless questions, when the
IDers can't even agree among themselves what ID is?
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"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
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05 Jan 2005 02:02:10 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:19:56 +0000 (UTC), "Danny Kodicek"
<usenet@well-spring.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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"I have to read the following to you. There will be no discussion,
you will merely listen, then we'll get back to science."
I wonder how the cretinists would react to that?
Tongue-in-cheek though I'm sure your suggestion is, I have to make clear
that this is a terrible idea. It just encourages creationists' belief
that
their views are somehow being 'censored'. Far better to allow questions -
any science teacher even vaguely worth their salt should be able to field
any of the responses that come up.
To the satisfaction of any IDers?
This isn't for the benefit of ID'ers, it's for the benefit of the kids in
the class who need to be educated, and *they* need to know the 'arguments'
they're going to come up against from creationists and why they're nonsense.
It's the same reason that it's important to teach critical analysis in
schools, because they're going to encounter a lot of inflated claims, faulty
logic and so on, and the ability to distinguish these is one of the most
important skills they will have for later life.
"Some people believe that a god
created everything, but there's never been any actual scientific
evidence of any god. And this *is* a science class." Uh huh. What
other answers can you give to totally meaningless questions, when the
IDers can't even agree among themselves what ID is?
Well, that's exactly the kind of statement which makes those people who are
sitting on the fence feel like you're being closed-minded or censoring.
Sure, it's frustrating for those of us who are atheists to see these idiots
proclaiming their rubbish, but the whole point of science is that it works
on the basis of proper, rigorous and open analysis. That's where we beat the
religious bigots: by being *ethically better* than they are. They can shout
about how they're being excluded as much as they like, but let the facts
speak for themselves. This kind of exclusion is just fuel to them, it makes
them feel important: 'look, we've got those scientists running scared'. I
say: let them come. They're wrong. The vast majority of science teachers,
like the vast majority of professional scientists, know they're wrong. We
have the facts and the arguments to prove it (not the non-existence of God,
that's like stabbing a lake, but the ID and YEC nonsense). Sure, there will
be closed-minded students who will never be convinced, but the rest of them
will benefit from seeing good science practised right.
<end of sermon :)>
Danny
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06 Jan 2005 09:26:20 AM |
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 20:02:10 +0000 (UTC), "Danny Kodicek"
<usenet@well-spring.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:fngot09npvpk71g8dc7i8d2tr0dd0lg1kt@4ax.com...
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:19:56 +0000 (UTC), "Danny Kodicek"
<usenet@well-spring.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:
Tongue-in-cheek though I'm sure your suggestion is, I have to make clear
that this is a terrible idea. It just encourages creationists' belief that
their views are somehow being 'censored'. Far better to allow questions -
any science teacher even vaguely worth their salt should be able to field
any of the responses that come up.
To the satisfaction of any IDers?
This isn't for the benefit of ID'ers, it's for the benefit of the kids in
the class who need to be educated, and *they* need to know the 'arguments'
they're going to come up against from creationists and why they're nonsense.
They're nonsense because religion is nonsense. But we can't teach
THAT truth in school.
It's the same reason that it's important to teach critical analysis in
schools, because they're going to encounter a lot of inflated claims, faulty
logic and so on, and the ability to distinguish these is one of the most
important skills they will have for later life.
What SHOULD be done, and what CAN be done are different, as long as we
have parents who think that the bible is an historical account of how
the universe came to be.
"Some people believe that a god
created everything, but there's never been any actual scientific
evidence of any god. And this *is* a science class." Uh huh. What
other answers can you give to totally meaningless questions, when the
IDers can't even agree among themselves what ID is?
Well, that's exactly the kind of statement which makes those people who are
sitting on the fence feel like you're being closed-minded or censoring.
We ARE being both closed-minded and censoring. Our minds are closed
to superstition being taught as science and we're censoring doing it.
Or trying to. And it SHOULD be censored.
Sure, it's frustrating for those of us who are atheists to see these idiots
proclaiming their rubbish, but the whole point of science is that it works
on the basis of proper, rigorous and open analysis. That's where we beat the
religious bigots: by being *ethically better* than they are.
We beat them in our eyes. In their eyes, if we don't teach
creationism, or at least ID, we're still being closed-minded and
censoring. Remember, not being a rabid, literal-bible-believing
Christian is being anti-Christian, to them.
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"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus
was not born of a virgin."
Cardinal Bellarmine,[1615, during the trial of Galileo]
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05 Jan 2005 10:27:19 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:58:11 +0000 (UTC), Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:28:32 +0000 (UTC), stoney <stoney@the.net> said
in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
Read it at http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/54313/
That is being taught.
"In the meantime, teachers also say they’re still not sure how they’re
supposed to comply with the board’s decision. Bertha Spahr, who heads
the district’s science department, said last month that a problem
could occur after the statement is read to the students. Once this
topic is introduced, Miller said, she wonders how many questions will
be asked."
"I have to read the following to you. There will be no discussion,
you will merely listen, then we'll get back to science."
I wonder how the cretinists would react to that?
Hopefully via fatal heart attacks.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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04 Jan 2005 04:34:40 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:28:32 +0000 (UTC), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by stoney <stoney@the.net>:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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The attorney for the Dover Area School District said no one will be
teaching intelligent design.
But lawyers for the 11 parents suing the district said they’d still
like to get that on the record from the people who fought to get the
concept in the science curriculum.
The entire statement on the subject of intelligent design in next
semester’s ninth-grade biology class will take about a minute, said
Richard Thompson, president of the Thomas More Law Center, which is
representing the district.
And because intelligent design — the concept that life is too complex
to have evolved through natural selection, and therefore must have
been created by an intelligent designer — is only “mentioned,”
Thompson said; it’s not being “taught.”
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Read it at http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/54313/
That is being taught.
No more than mentioning it here means it's being taught
here. A mention such as "And now we'll consider the subject
known by its partisans as 'Intelligent Design', or 'ID'.
Since there is no evidence supporting this concept, and
since there is no scientific test by which any part of any
living thing can be shown to be designed, rather than
evolved via the well-understood pathways demonstrated by
modern biological study, this is not a scientific concept
and has no place in a science class. It is merely an
unwillingness on the part of some to accept the overwhelming
evidence supporting evolution."
"Mentioned", just as required. Creationists hoist on their
own petard, as it were...
--
Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
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05 Jan 2005 10:28:21 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:34:40 +0000 (UTC), Bob Casanova
<nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:28:32 +0000 (UTC), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by stoney <stoney@the.net>:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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The attorney for the Dover Area School District said no one will be
teaching intelligent design.
But lawyers for the 11 parents suing the district said they’d still
like to get that on the record from the people who fought to get the
concept in the science curriculum.
The entire statement on the subject of intelligent design in next
semester’s ninth-grade biology class will take about a minute, said
Richard Thompson, president of the Thomas More Law Center, which is
representing the district.
And because intelligent design — the concept that life is too complex
to have evolved through natural selection, and therefore must have
been created by an intelligent designer — is only “mentioned,”
Thompson said; it’s not being “taught.”
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Read it at http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/54313/
That is being taught.
No more than mentioning it here means it's being taught
here. A mention such as "And now we'll consider the subject
known by its partisans as 'Intelligent Design', or 'ID'.
Since there is no evidence supporting this concept, and
since there is no scientific test by which any part of any
living thing can be shown to be designed, rather than
evolved via the well-understood pathways demonstrated by
modern biological study, this is not a scientific concept
and has no place in a science class. It is merely an
unwillingness on the part of some to accept the overwhelming
evidence supporting evolution."
"Mentioned", just as required. Creationists hoist on their
own petard, as it were...
I doubt that will be the mention made.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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