Religions > Atheism > In the News: Plans for Holy Land theme park on Galilee shore where Jesus fed the 5,000
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In the News: Plans for Holy Land theme park on Galilee shore where Jesus fed the 5,000 |
From the article:
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· Evangelical groups and Israel on brink of deal
· Some Israelis fear motives of US Christian right
Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Wednesday January 4, 2006
The Guardian
The Israeli government is planning to give up a large slice of land to
American Christian evangelicals to build a biblical theme park by the
Sea of Galilee where Jesus is said to have walked on water and fed
5,000 with five loaves and two fish.
A consortium of Christian groups, led by the television evangelist Pat
Robertson, is in negotiation with the Israeli ministry of tourism and
a deal is expected in the coming months. The project is expected to
bring up to 1 million extra tourists a year but an undeclared benefit
will be the cementing of a political alliance between the Israeli
rightwing and the American Christian right.
However, the alliance has not been welcomed by all Israelis, including
some who fear the ultimate aim of the evangelicals is the conversion
of the Jews to Christianity rather than support for Israel.
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Read it at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0%2C2763%2C1677557%2C00.html?gusrc=rss
J. Spaceman
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07 Jan 2006 02:51:08 AM |
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In article <b6gpr1hqga6slrduhiat78e5qj6movon9m@4ax.com>,
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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· Evangelical groups and Israel on brink of deal
· Some Israelis fear motives of US Christian right
Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Wednesday January 4, 2006
The Guardian
The Israeli government is planning to give up a large slice of land to
American Christian evangelicals to build a biblical theme park by the
Sea of Galilee where Jesus is said to have walked on water and fed
5,000 with five loaves and two fish.
A consortium of Christian groups, led by the television evangelist Pat
Robertson, is in negotiation with the Israeli ministry of tourism and
a deal is expected in the coming months. The project is expected to
bring up to 1 million extra tourists a year but an undeclared benefit
will be the cementing of a political alliance between the Israeli
rightwing and the American Christian right.
However, the alliance has not been welcomed by all Israelis, including
some who fear the ultimate aim of the evangelicals is the conversion
of the Jews to Christianity rather than support for Israel.
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I wonder if Pat will be welcome now after praying that his god offs
Sharon.
Read it at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0%2C2763%2C1677557%2C00.html?gusrc=rss
J. Spaceman
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Plans for Holy Land theme park on Galilee shore where Jesus fed the 5,000 |
07 Jan 2006 09:04:45 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:51:08 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <b6gpr1hqga6slrduhiat78e5qj6movon9m@4ax.com>,
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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· Evangelical groups and Israel on brink of deal
· Some Israelis fear motives of US Christian right
Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Wednesday January 4, 2006
The Guardian
The Israeli government is planning to give up a large slice of land to
American Christian evangelicals to build a biblical theme park by the
Sea of Galilee where Jesus is said to have walked on water and fed
5,000 with five loaves and two fish.
A consortium of Christian groups, led by the television evangelist Pat
Robertson, is in negotiation with the Israeli ministry of tourism and
a deal is expected in the coming months. The project is expected to
bring up to 1 million extra tourists a year but an undeclared benefit
will be the cementing of a political alliance between the Israeli
rightwing and the American Christian right.
However, the alliance has not been welcomed by all Israelis, including
some who fear the ultimate aim of the evangelicals is the conversion
of the Jews to Christianity rather than support for Israel.
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I wonder if Pat will be welcome now after praying that his god offs
Sharon.
Which his usual rabid love.
Mr. Sarid has it right.
/excerpt
Yossi Sarid, a former government minister and member of the Knesset,
said he was wary of the friendship of the American Christian right and
projects such as the Galilee centre. He said: "I am not enthusiastic
about this cooperation because I have no desire to be cannon fodder for
the evangelists.
"As a Jew, they believe I have to vanish before Jesus can make his
second appearance. As I have no plans to convert, as an Israeli and a
Jew, I find this a provocation. There is something sinister about their
embrace."
/excerpt
What's also interesting is:
/excerpt
A major part of the shore of the Sea of Galilee was Syrian until it was
conquered by Israel in 1967. Syria and Israel are still officially in a
state of war and Syria insists the return of the Golan Heights and the
Galilee shore is a prerequisite for peace.
/excerpt
:D
Read it at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0%2C2763%2C1677557%2C00.html?gusrc=rss
J. Spaceman
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Plans for Holy Land theme park on Galilee shore where Jesus fed the 5,000 |
08 Jan 2006 02:05:27 AM |
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In article <3101s15c0mimq64u0skq9jt67vbj8ojgoq@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:51:08 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <b6gpr1hqga6slrduhiat78e5qj6movon9m@4ax.com>,
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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· Evangelical groups and Israel on brink of deal
· Some Israelis fear motives of US Christian right
Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Wednesday January 4, 2006
The Guardian
The Israeli government is planning to give up a large slice of land to
American Christian evangelicals to build a biblical theme park by the
Sea of Galilee where Jesus is said to have walked on water and fed
5,000 with five loaves and two fish.
A consortium of Christian groups, led by the television evangelist Pat
Robertson, is in negotiation with the Israeli ministry of tourism and
a deal is expected in the coming months. The project is expected to
bring up to 1 million extra tourists a year but an undeclared benefit
will be the cementing of a political alliance between the Israeli
rightwing and the American Christian right.
However, the alliance has not been welcomed by all Israelis, including
some who fear the ultimate aim of the evangelicals is the conversion
of the Jews to Christianity rather than support for Israel.
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I wonder if Pat will be welcome now after praying that his god offs
Sharon.
Which his usual rabid love.
Mr. Sarid has it right.
/excerpt
Yossi Sarid, a former government minister and member of the Knesset,
said he was wary of the friendship of the American Christian right and
projects such as the Galilee centre. He said: "I am not enthusiastic
about this cooperation because I have no desire to be cannon fodder for
the evangelists.
"As a Jew, they believe I have to vanish before Jesus can make his
second appearance. As I have no plans to convert, as an Israeli and a
Jew, I find this a provocation. There is something sinister about their
embrace."
/excerpt
Exactly. These guys are no friends of the Jews.
What's also interesting is:
/excerpt
A major part of the shore of the Sea of Galilee was Syrian until it was
conquered by Israel in 1967. Syria and Israel are still officially in a
state of war and Syria insists the return of the Golan Heights and the
Galilee shore is a prerequisite for peace.
/excerpt
:D
Maybe the militant Palestinians and Hizbollah will prepare a nice very
warm welcome for Pat if ever he goes there.
Read it at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0%2C2763%2C1677557%2C00.html?gusrc=r
ss
J. Spaceman
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: In the News: Plans for Holy Land theme park on Galilee shore where Jesus fed the 5,000 |
08 Jan 2006 04:16:42 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:05:27 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <3101s15c0mimq64u0skq9jt67vbj8ojgoq@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:51:08 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <b6gpr1hqga6slrduhiat78e5qj6movon9m@4ax.com>,
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
· Evangelical groups and Israel on brink of deal
· Some Israelis fear motives of US Christian right
Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Wednesday January 4, 2006
The Guardian
The Israeli government is planning to give up a large slice of land to
American Christian evangelicals to build a biblical theme park by the
Sea of Galilee where Jesus is said to have walked on water and fed
5,000 with five loaves and two fish.
A consortium of Christian groups, led by the television evangelist Pat
Robertson, is in negotiation with the Israeli ministry of tourism and
a deal is expected in the coming months. The project is expected to
bring up to 1 million extra tourists a year but an undeclared benefit
will be the cementing of a political alliance between the Israeli
rightwing and the American Christian right.
However, the alliance has not been welcomed by all Israelis, including
some who fear the ultimate aim of the evangelicals is the conversion
of the Jews to Christianity rather than support for Israel.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
I wonder if Pat will be welcome now after praying that his god offs
Sharon.
Which his usual rabid love.
Mr. Sarid has it right.
/excerpt
Yossi Sarid, a former government minister and member of the Knesset,
said he was wary of the friendship of the American Christian right and
projects such as the Galilee centre. He said: "I am not enthusiastic
about this cooperation because I have no desire to be cannon fodder for
the evangelists.
"As a Jew, they believe I have to vanish before Jesus can make his
second appearance. As I have no plans to convert, as an Israeli and a
Jew, I find this a provocation. There is something sinister about their
embrace."
/excerpt
Exactly. These guys are no friends of the Jews.
Nope.
What's also interesting is:
/excerpt
A major part of the shore of the Sea of Galilee was Syrian until it was
conquered by Israel in 1967. Syria and Israel are still officially in a
state of war and Syria insists the return of the Golan Heights and the
Galilee shore is a prerequisite for peace.
/excerpt
:D
Maybe the militant Palestinians and Hizbollah will prepare a nice very
warm welcome for Pat if ever he goes there.
Much rejoycing would follow.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| Title: Re: In the News: Plans for Holy Land theme park on Galilee shore where Jesus fed the 5,000 |
09 Jan 2006 12:00:00 AM |
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In article <en33s1dvrbjtfr0ete16bfu5r9s5e0d0b6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:05:27 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <3101s15c0mimq64u0skq9jt67vbj8ojgoq@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:51:08 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <b6gpr1hqga6slrduhiat78e5qj6movon9m@4ax.com>,
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
· Evangelical groups and Israel on brink of deal
· Some Israelis fear motives of US Christian right
Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Wednesday January 4, 2006
The Guardian
The Israeli government is planning to give up a large slice of land to
American Christian evangelicals to build a biblical theme park by the
Sea of Galilee where Jesus is said to have walked on water and fed
5,000 with five loaves and two fish.
A consortium of Christian groups, led by the television evangelist Pat
Robertson, is in negotiation with the Israeli ministry of tourism and
a deal is expected in the coming months. The project is expected to
bring up to 1 million extra tourists a year but an undeclared benefit
will be the cementing of a political alliance between the Israeli
rightwing and the American Christian right.
However, the alliance has not been welcomed by all Israelis, including
some who fear the ultimate aim of the evangelicals is the conversion
of the Jews to Christianity rather than support for Israel.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
I wonder if Pat will be welcome now after praying that his god offs
Sharon.
Which his usual rabid love.
Mr. Sarid has it right.
/excerpt
Yossi Sarid, a former government minister and member of the Knesset,
said he was wary of the friendship of the American Christian right and
projects such as the Galilee centre. He said: "I am not enthusiastic
about this cooperation because I have no desire to be cannon fodder for
the evangelists.
"As a Jew, they believe I have to vanish before Jesus can make his
second appearance. As I have no plans to convert, as an Israeli and a
Jew, I find this a provocation. There is something sinister about their
embrace."
/excerpt
Exactly. These guys are no friends of the Jews.
Nope.
What's also interesting is:
/excerpt
A major part of the shore of the Sea of Galilee was Syrian until it was
conquered by Israel in 1967. Syria and Israel are still officially in a
state of war and Syria insists the return of the Golan Heights and the
Galilee shore is a prerequisite for peace.
/excerpt
:D
Maybe the militant Palestinians and Hizbollah will prepare a nice very
warm welcome for Pat if ever he goes there.
Much rejoycing would follow.
<cue Handel's Hallelujah chorus>
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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05 Jan 2006 02:35:48 AM |
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Oh boy! Let's all rollercoaster for Jesus! This is all about the
money for both sides, of course for Pat Robertson, it is always about
the money. So I wonder what they will charge the good little xtians
for a loaf and two fishes anyway?
Onanite
http://onanite.blogspot.com/
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05 Jan 2006 10:48:54 AM |
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"Onanite" <mastrait@efn.org> wrote in message
news:1136450148.307533.168750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Oh boy! Let's all rollercoaster for Jesus! This is all about the
money for both sides, of course for Pat Robertson, it is always about
the money. So I wonder what they will charge the good little xtians
for a loaf and two fishes anyway?
Don't laugh. When I was down in Orlando to go to Disney last month, I found
brochures and advertisements form some biblical theme park all over the
place. Scary!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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05 Jan 2006 04:07:55 AM |
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Onanite wrote:
Oh boy! Let's all rollercoaster for Jesus! This is all about the
money for both sides, of course for Pat Robertson, it is always about
the money. So I wonder what they will charge the good little xtians
for a loaf and two fishes anyway?
Onanite
http://onanite.blogspot.com/
Didn't someone already try something like this once?
http://illicitohio.com/SBNO/heritage/heritage01.html
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
Numbers of people discarding religion on the rise in the US:
http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdate&BarnaUpdateID=163
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/3344680/detail.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/amer_intol.htm
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