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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Jason Spaceman"
Date: 07 Jan 2005 11:45:28 PM
Object: In the News: Students, teachers to be excused from 'intelligent design' statement
From the article:
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A school district that attracted national attention by requiring the reading of
a statement about "intelligent design" as an alternative to the theory of
evolution in high-school biology classes made the mandate optional Friday for
teachers and students who object to it.
The Dover Area School District agreed to temporarily exempt science teachers
from having to read the statement, after seven of them signed a letter
objecting to the policy on grounds that it would violate Pennsylvania's
professional standards and practices code for teachers.
Instead, administrators will read the statement Thursday, when ninth-graders at
Dover High School are expected to learn about evolution in their biology
classes.
Students can also be excused from hearing the statement being read if their
parents object, according to a letter to parents that the district posted on
its Web site. It was unclear whether the letter was also mailed to individual
families.
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Read it at
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13705843&BRD=2212&PAG=461&dept_id=465812&rfi=6
or http://tinyurl.com/5upd8
J. Spaceman
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User: "Danny Kodicek"

Title: Re: In the News: Students, teachers to be excused from 'intelligent design' statement 07 Jan 2005 11:57:08 PM
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:QuCdnd_lT4ZvvkLcRVn-1w@rogers.com...

From the article:
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A school district that attracted national attention by requiring the

reading of

a statement about "intelligent design" as an alternative to the theory of
evolution in high-school biology classes made the mandate optional Friday

for

teachers and students who object to it.

The Dover Area School District agreed to temporarily exempt science

teachers

from having to read the statement, after seven of them signed a letter
objecting to the policy on grounds that it would violate Pennsylvania's
professional standards and practices code for teachers.

Instead, administrators will read the statement Thursday, when

ninth-graders at

Dover High School are expected to learn about evolution in their biology
classes.

Students can also be excused from hearing the statement being read if

their

parents object, according to a letter to parents that the district posted

on

its Web site. It was unclear whether the letter was also mailed to

individual

families.

Oh for goodness' sake. Excusing teachers from teaching the drivel,
absolutely, but what kind of a get-out is 'students don't have to hear it'?
The reason it shouldn't be in classrooms is because IT'S BOLLOCKS. Not
because poor children's fragile little minds will be polluted by it if they
hear it, and 'special' children, 'good atheists', presumably, can be
excused. What a pathetic non-compromise.
Danny
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User: "Kate "

Title: Re: In the News: Students, teachers to be excused from 'intelligent design' statement 08 Jan 2005 01:32:16 PM
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:45:28 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:

From the article:
--------------------------------------
A school district that attracted national attention by requiring the reading of
a statement about "intelligent design" as an alternative to the theory of
evolution in high-school biology classes made the mandate optional Friday for
teachers and students who object to it.

The Dover Area School District agreed to temporarily exempt science teachers
from having to read the statement, after seven of them signed a letter
objecting to the policy on grounds that it would violate Pennsylvania's
professional standards and practices code for teachers.

Instead, administrators will read the statement Thursday, when ninth-graders at
Dover High School are expected to learn about evolution in their biology
classes.

Students can also be excused from hearing the statement being read if their
parents object, according to a letter to parents that the district posted on
its Web site. It was unclear whether the letter was also mailed to individual
families.

I think I would prefer the teachers then go over how this statement is
not science.
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: In the News: Students, teachers to be excused from 'intelligent design' statement 09 Jan 2005 01:34:50 AM
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:32:16 +0000 (UTC),
(Kate )
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:45:28 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:

From the article:
--------------------------------------
A school district that attracted national attention by requiring the reading of
a statement about "intelligent design" as an alternative to the theory of
evolution in high-school biology classes made the mandate optional Friday for
teachers and students who object to it.


I think I would prefer the teachers then go over how this statement is
not science.

apparently the entire biology staff of the dover HS refused to read
the garbage proposed by the school board, citing a professional
agreement they signed prohibiting them from teaching anything that is
untrue.
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: In the News: Students, teachers to be excused from 'intelligent design' statement 10 Jan 2005 04:50:25 PM
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:34:50 +0000 (UTC),
(Bob) wrote:

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:32:16 +0000 (UTC),

(Kate )
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:45:28 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:

From the article:
--------------------------------------
A school district that attracted national attention by requiring the reading of
a statement about "intelligent design" as an alternative to the theory of
evolution in high-school biology classes made the mandate optional Friday for
teachers and students who object to it.


I think I would prefer the teachers then go over how this statement is
not science.


apparently the entire biology staff of the dover HS refused to read
the garbage proposed by the school board, citing a professional
agreement they signed prohibiting them from teaching anything that is
untrue.

Good for them. It's quite sad the school board is vastly uneducated.
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User: "Kate "

Title: Re: In the News: Students, teachers to be excused from 'intelligent design' statement 10 Jan 2005 03:08:20 PM
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 01:34:50 +0000 (UTC),
(Bob) wrote:

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:32:16 +0000 (UTC),

(Kate )
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:45:28 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:

From the article:
--------------------------------------
A school district that attracted national attention by requiring the reading of
a statement about "intelligent design" as an alternative to the theory of
evolution in high-school biology classes made the mandate optional Friday for
teachers and students who object to it.


I think I would prefer the teachers then go over how this statement is
not science.


apparently the entire biology staff of the dover HS refused to read
the garbage proposed by the school board, citing a professional
agreement they signed prohibiting them from teaching anything that is
untrue.

Really - that's cool and the way it should be handled. It's not
science, so I can't teach it as science without lying and I don't lie
to children.
.


User: "Féachadóir"

Title: Re: In the News: Students, teachers to be excused from 'intelligent design' statement 08 Jan 2005 02:52:37 PM
Scríobh
(Kate ):

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:45:28 +0000 (UTC), Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:

From the article:
--------------------------------------
A school district that attracted national attention by requiring the reading of
a statement about "intelligent design" as an alternative to the theory of
evolution in high-school biology classes made the mandate optional Friday for
teachers and students who object to it.

The Dover Area School District agreed to temporarily exempt science teachers
from having to read the statement, after seven of them signed a letter
objecting to the policy on grounds that it would violate Pennsylvania's
professional standards and practices code for teachers.

Instead, administrators will read the statement Thursday, when ninth-graders at
Dover High School are expected to learn about evolution in their biology
classes.

Students can also be excused from hearing the statement being read if their
parents object, according to a letter to parents that the district posted on
its Web site. It was unclear whether the letter was also mailed to individual
families.


I think I would prefer the teachers then go over how this statement is
not science.

I'd like them to teach Lamarkism and Lysenkoism, to show what a real
'problems with the theory' look like. Both have more published
references in support of their assertions than ID, and it would
provide an opportunity to demonstrate how scientific error-cheking
works.
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aitreb na lec nime"
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: In the News: Students, teachers to be excused from 'intelligent design' statement 08 Jan 2005 11:42:52 PM
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 14:52:37 +0000 (UTC), Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> said
in alt.atheism:

I'd like them to teach Lamarkism and Lysenkoism, to show what a real
'problems with the theory' look like. Both have more published
references in support of their assertions than ID

And there's more to make Lamarckism a theory than there is to define
any "theory" of ID.
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type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...; such notions are for the fears or
absurd egoism of feeble souls."
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User: "Féachadóir"

Title: Re: In the News: Students, teachers to be excused from 'intelligent design' statement 09 Jan 2005 04:54:47 PM
Scríobh Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>:

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 14:52:37 +0000 (UTC), Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> said
in alt.atheism:

I'd like them to teach Lamarkism and Lysenkoism, to show what a real
'problems with the theory' look like. Both have more published
references in support of their assertions than ID


And there's more to make Lamarckism a theory than there is to define
any "theory" of ID.

By jove, I think he's got it!
--
"Ná sáruigther Seinglenn
aitreb na lec nime"
© Féachadóir
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