Religions > Atheism > In the News: UK anti-evolutionists seek to lure parents with new website
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In the News: UK anti-evolutionists seek to lure parents with new website |
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Creationists and anti-evolutionists in the United Kingdom have established a
new website, called ?Truth in Science?, to try to persuade school parents
to lobby for their ideas within the British education system.
The move is the latest attempt by opponents of Darwinian theory to ?teach
the controversy? by claiming equivalence for non-scientific theories of
origins often derived from fundamentalist interpretations of Christian
scripture.
Truth in Science asks, ?Are you aware of what your child is being taught,
and have you ever discussed this with his or her science teacher?? It says
that a ?free resource pack? is being sent to school heads of science in
September 2006.
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
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Read it at
http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/news_syndication/article_060925evolut.shtml
J. Spaceman
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25 Sep 2006 07:27:20 PM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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25 Sep 2006 08:01:46 PM |
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Geoff <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
and heretics, too. And people with handshakes like that...
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
"He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,
bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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26 Sep 2006 05:15:53 PM |
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In article <1hm9qda.17snn2z14v1bu4N%>,
(John Wilkins) wrote:
Geoff <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
and heretics, too. And people with handshakes like that...
and people who chew peppermint and puff it in your face.
You may put them on the list; you may put them on the list.
For they'd none of them be missed; they'd none of them be missed.
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Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.
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| User: "Lizz Holmans" |
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25 Sep 2006 08:09:34 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:01:46 +1000, (John
Wilkins) wrote:
and heretics, too. And people with handshakes like that...
If they didn't drink so much they wouldn't have handshakes like that.
Lizz 'still waiting for the masonic boom' Holmans
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Rumpeta, rumpeta, rumpeta
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| User: "Baron Bodissey" |
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25 Sep 2006 09:48:01 PM |
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Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
Baron Bodissey
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
- Monty Python
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| User: "Perplexed in Peoria" |
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25 Sep 2006 11:12:36 PM |
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"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
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| User: "Stile4aly" |
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26 Sep 2006 12:57:43 PM |
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Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
But everyone knows that God keeps planes in the air. "Lift" is just a
demand of your atheist worldview, all the evidence shows that God holds
up planes, as demonstrated by a model of a primitive plane found in the
Great Pyramid. Besides which, Bernoulli was an atheist, and French.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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26 Sep 2006 01:29:48 PM |
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On 26 Sep 2006 10:57:43 -0700, Stile4aly wrote in message
<1159293463.635799.107770@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
But everyone knows that God keeps planes in the air. "Lift" is just a
demand of your atheist worldview, all the evidence shows that God holds
up planes, as demonstrated by a model of a primitive plane found in the
Great Pyramid. Besides which, Bernoulli was an atheist, and French.
Bollocks.
Everyone knows that planes are kept in the air by squeezing the
armrests tightly, and the tighter you squeeze the more likely the
plane is to keep flying.
--
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage. Cine To DVD? http://www.video2cd.co.uk
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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26 Sep 2006 01:42:20 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On 26 Sep 2006 10:57:43 -0700, Stile4aly wrote in message
<1159293463.635799.107770@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
But everyone knows that God keeps planes in the air. "Lift" is just a
demand of your atheist worldview, all the evidence shows that God holds
up planes, as demonstrated by a model of a primitive plane found in the
Great Pyramid. Besides which, Bernoulli was an atheist, and French.
Bollocks.
Everyone knows that planes are kept in the air by squeezing the
armrests tightly, and the tighter you squeeze the more likely the
plane is to keep flying.
Heresy!
Everyone knows that planes are held up by His Noodly Appendages
RAmen
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"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage. Cine To DVD? http://www.video2cd.co.uk
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26 Sep 2006 02:12:06 PM |
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On 26 Sep 2006 11:42:20 -0700, "Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
On 26 Sep 2006 10:57:43 -0700, Stile4aly wrote in message
<1159293463.635799.107770@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
But everyone knows that God keeps planes in the air. "Lift" is just a
demand of your atheist worldview, all the evidence shows that God holds
up planes, as demonstrated by a model of a primitive plane found in the
Great Pyramid. Besides which, Bernoulli was an atheist, and French.
Bollocks.
Everyone knows that planes are kept in the air by squeezing the
armrests tightly, and the tighter you squeeze the more likely the
plane is to keep flying.
Heresy!
Everyone knows that planes are held up by His Noodly Appendages
RAmen
LOL.
Sauce be upon Him. RAmen.
CT
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| User: "snex" |
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26 Sep 2006 01:05:11 PM |
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Stile4aly wrote:
Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
But everyone knows that God keeps planes in the air. "Lift" is just a
demand of your atheist worldview, all the evidence shows that God holds
up planes, as demonstrated by a model of a primitive plane found in the
Great Pyramid. Besides which, Bernoulli was an atheist, and French.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/opentomb.html
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27 Sep 2006 09:57:35 AM |
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snex wrote:
Stile4aly wrote:
Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
But everyone knows that God keeps planes in the air. "Lift" is just a
demand of your atheist worldview, all the evidence shows that God holds
up planes, as demonstrated by a model of a primitive plane found in the
Great Pyramid. Besides which, Bernoulli was an atheist, and French.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/opentomb.html
It's good to see that you have a sense of humor.
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27 Sep 2006 12:15:32 AM |
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Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
Never fear, McIntosh's actual hobby is the bombadier beetle squirt
mechanism, which, he says, is irreducibly complex and also inspires his
engine designs, or something.
"Of beetle bristles and beetle juice" (May 2005)
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05150/512647.stm
"Beetles could prove a hit with the aircraft industry"
University of Leeds press release
8 December 2003
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/media/current/beetle.htm
CBC Radio, December 2003:
http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/archives/03-04/dec13.html
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Bombardier Beetles
Listen to an audio filemp3 of this topic
The bombardier beetle is a remarkable animal. When threatened by a
predator it uses an internal explosion to generate a boiling hot jet of
toxic liquid, which can be discouraging for a hunter looking for a
light snack. While this is a fascinating mechanism, Dr. Andy McIntosh,
a professor of thermodynamics and combustion theory in the Energy and
Resources Research Institute at the University of Leeds in England,
thinks teasing out the beetle's secrets might be the key to a whole
range of new technologies. He's particularly interested in using the
beetle's squirting technology to create a device to relight jet engines
that have gone out.
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No one ever googles the guy, apparently. He also wrote this:
A. C. McIntosh and M. Forman (2004). "The efficiency of the explosive
discharge of the bombadier beetle, with possible biomimetic
applications." pp. 227-236 of a conference proceedings volume, "Design
and Nature II: Comparing Design in Nature with Science and
Engineering." Edited by MW Collins et al. Southampton: WIT Press.
http://library.witpress.com/pdfs/abstracts/DN04/DN04023AU.pdf
(That title sounds to me just like something somebody would proudly
publish at the University of Ediacara.)
Webpage for the volume/conference (it was a biomimetics conference):
http://library.witpress.com/pages/listPapers.asp?q_bid=261
The McIntosh article just happens to be the same book that has this:
S. A. Minnich and S. C. Meyer (2004). "Genetic analysis of coordinate
flagellar and type III regulatory circuits in pathogenic bacteria."
pp. 295-304 of a conference proceedings volume, "Design and Nature II:
Comparing Design in Nature with Science and Engineering." Edited by MW
Collins et al. Southampton: WIT Press.
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2181
http://library.witpress.com/pdfs/abstracts/DN04/DN04030AU.pdf
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26 Sep 2006 12:09:48 AM |
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Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
Thanks for the explanation. It does boggle the mind, though, that
someone of intelligence can successfully apply the scientific method in
one field, but refuse to credit its results in another.
Baron Bodissey
I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us
with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
- Galileo Galilei
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26 Sep 2006 03:11:12 AM |
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"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159247387.937288.156320@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the
planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
Thanks for the explanation. It does boggle the mind, though, that
someone of intelligence can successfully apply the scientific method in
one field, but refuse to credit its results in another.
The power of religious indoctrination should never be underestimated. I know
plenty of otherwise rational people who believe in this crazy *****.
Consider that the neocons were up in arms that poor, little Elian was
"brainwashed" to prefer his father and communism over his disgusting
relatives in Miami and capitalism. But then they tkae their toddlers to
Sunday school and think nothing of it.
Sometimes it hurts to look in the mirror, but these people don't see the
mirror.
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| User: "Iain" |
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26 Sep 2006 09:38:18 AM |
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Baron Bodissey wrote:
Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
Thanks for the explanation. It does boggle the mind, though, that
someone of intelligence can successfully apply the scientific method in
one field, but refuse to credit its results in another.
It's called Doublethink.
Except from blog:
Orwell phrased it as such: "In politics, in ideology, or in religion,
two plus two might make five, but when constructing a ship, or building
an aircraft, they must equal four". The imperative of objective reality
betrays the lack of substance in nearly all religious claims,
everything from religious "healing" to creationist "science" (read:
carefully selecting questionable facts and flawed mathematical
abstractions to support a preconceived notion, the very antithesis of
scientific thought). The "just a theory" claim is a case study in
logical fallacy, the specific one in this context being "argumentum ad
ignoratium", where the proponent asserts that something is wrong due to
"lack" of decisive evidence. Creationists are also more often that not
guilty of many such fallacies, the most common among them being the
affirmation of the consequent and the false dichotomy.
~Iain
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26 Sep 2006 07:29:43 AM |
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Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"Baron Bodissey" <mct5548@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159238880.962446.233540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Geoff wrote:
"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:ef9ri2$hn0$1@news.datemas.de...
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
Presumably to understand just how much wood is required to burn a witch.
No, really; what's "a combustion theorist" anyway.
The chemistry of how stuff burns is *very* complicated, to say nothing
of the physics (convection, etc.). So, it is a specialty all its own.
They are involved in the design of internal combustion engines, power
plants, etc. How do I know this? I used to play Go with a NASA
rocket scientist. I showed up late one day and he was killing the
time reading a new monograph in his field, which I then learned was
'combustion'. One guesses that the combustion theorist from Leeds
might work for Rolls Royce - perhaps on jet engine design.
That's what the A-i-G link that Jason Spaceman after-posted says.
Relevance to origins is unclear, but evidently he's a creationist and a
scientist and that's supposed to be good enough. And with a bent for
engineering, as usual.
It is an awfully big world out there. But a bit scary that a creationist
might actually be good enough to help design the jet engines on the planes
I ride. Or pilot it. Or hijack it.
He may be a good engineer. There's an Isaac Asimov story about a robot
designed to run an isolated space station which decides that it is a
high priest performing religious rites, and that human supervisors are
inferior creations. The supervisors finally decide this doesn't matter
as long as the work gets done anyway.
Wasn't there something about the German authorities getting unhappy
because part of Microsoft Windows was sub-contracted to a bunch of
Scientologists?
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25 Sep 2006 07:25:43 PM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
The new group catalogues among its supporters ?young earth creationists?
such as the Rev George Curry, chair of the hard-line Church Society, and
Andy McIntosh, a combustion theorist from Leeds.
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http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/a_mcintosh.asp
J. Spaceman
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