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"Eris" |
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23 Aug 2007 11:59:05 PM |
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Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
24 Aug 2007 12:46:44 AM |
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Eris wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
*****. it's heavier, and fails under heat & exposure to POL.
then there's the issue of getting shot at from an angle and the round going
between two discs....... presto: no armor protection at all.
redc1c4,
the only reason you like it is that more troops will be killed or injured.
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Buck" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
24 Aug 2007 09:20:07 AM |
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"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote in message
news:46CE70F8.945DE99E@drunkenbastards.org.ies...
Eris wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
*****. it's heavier, and fails under heat & exposure to POL.
then there's the issue of getting shot at from an angle and the round
going
between two discs....... presto: no armor protection at all.
redc1c4,
the only reason you like it is that more troops will be killed or injured.
This ***** you are dealing with couldn't make a pimple on a vet's *****.
Look at the signs.
He refers to Viet Namese as "natives".(Repeatedly).
That is a term that NEVER was or is used by people who were there.
You can think of a dozen terms for Viet Namese, and all the sub-groups
within Viet Namese society, but never "natives".
He's a fraud, a wannabe, a liar, and a desperate attention seeker, so I
suggest you stop the name-calling and start pressing for facts.
They aren't there.
He'll morph his ID, leave for awhile, change his story, but eventually the
liar will be gone, LIKE SO MANY OTHERS!
Buck
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 11:36:12 AM |
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On 24 aug, 16:20, "Buck" <Buck@buckaroov...@Cowtown.net> wrote:
"redc1c4" <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote in message
news:46CE70F8.945DE99E@drunkenbastards.org.ies...
Eris wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
*****. it's heavier, and fails under heat & exposure to POL.
then there's the issue of getting shot at from an angle and the round
going
between two discs....... presto: no armor protection at all.
redc1c4,
the only reason you like it is that more troops will be killed or injured.
This ***** you are dealing with couldn't make a pimple on a vet's *****.
Look at the signs.
He refers to Viet Namese as "natives".(Repeatedly).
That is a term that NEVER was or is used by people who were there.
You can think of a dozen terms for Viet Namese, and all the sub-groups
within Viet Namese society, but never "natives".
He's a fraud, a wannabe, a liar, and a desperate attention seeker, so I
suggest you stop the name-calling and start pressing for facts.
They aren't there.
He'll morph his ID, leave for awhile, change his story, but eventually the
liar will be gone, LIKE SO MANY OTHERS!
Buck
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Sorry, did I miss something?
I didn' hear anything about Vietnames in this video.
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 02:03:18 PM |
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On Aug 25, 12:36 pm, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
On 24 aug, 16:20, "Buck" <Buck@buckaroov...@Cowtown.net> wrote:
"redc1c4" <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote in message
news:46CE70F8.945DE99E@drunkenbastards.org.ies...
Eris wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
*****. it's heavier, and fails under heat & exposure to POL.
then there's the issue of getting shot at from an angle and the round
going
between two discs....... presto: no armor protection at all.
redc1c4,
the only reason you like it is that more troops will be killed or injured.
This ***** you are dealing with couldn't make a pimple on a vet's *****.
Look at the signs.
He refers to Viet Namese as "natives".(Repeatedly).
That is a term that NEVER was or is used by people who were there.
You can think of a dozen terms for Viet Namese, and all the sub-groups
within Viet Namese society, but never "natives".
He's a fraud, a wannabe, a liar, and a desperate attention seeker, so I
suggest you stop the name-calling and start pressing for facts.
They aren't there.
He'll morph his ID, leave for awhile, change his story, but eventually the
liar will be gone, LIKE SO MANY OTHERS!
Buck
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Sorry, did I miss something?
I didn' hear anything about Vietnames in this video.
Red and Buck are "special", and there is a third one who screen name
is Colin Campbell of all things, together they are the 3 stooges.
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| User: "Tankfixer" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
24 Aug 2007 09:06:19 PM |
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In article <46CE70F8.945DE99E@drunkenbastards.org.ies>, redc1c4
@drunkenbastards.org.ies mumbled
Eris wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
*****. it's heavier, and fails under heat & exposure to POL.
then there's the issue of getting shot at from an angle and the round going
between two discs....... presto: no armor protection at all.
redc1c4,
the only reason you like it is that more troops will be killed or injured.
That and the USAF has an ongoing investigation of the company for fraud
in some vests purchased last year....
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 11:34:38 AM |
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On 24 aug, 07:46, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Eris wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
*****. it's heavier, and fails under heat & exposure to POL.
then there's the issue of getting shot at from an angle and the round going
between two discs....... presto: no armor protection at all.
redc1c4,
the only reason you like it is that more troops will be killed or injured.
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
what does POL mean?
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| User: "Horvath" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 12:49:06 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:34:38 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl"
<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote this crap:
*****. it's heavier, and fails under heat & exposure to POL.
what does POL mean?
petroleum, oil, and lubricants.
This means, "fuel, oil, and grease."
My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
26 Aug 2007 06:23:08 AM |
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On 25 aug, 19:49, Horvath <Horv...@Horvath.nossepam.net> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:34:38 -0700, "pba...@worldonline.nl"
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote this crap:
*****. it's heavier, and fails under heat & exposure to POL.
what does POL mean?
petroleum, oil, and lubricants.
This means, "fuel, oil, and grease."
Horv...@Horvath.net
My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
Aye but has it been tested:)
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| User: "Tankfixer" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
24 Aug 2007 09:05:27 PM |
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In article <1187931545.940155.214420@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vithant@gmail.com mumbled
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
So you support a company who lied to the USAF on the certification of
thier product ??
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
24 Aug 2007 10:05:14 PM |
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On Aug 24, 10:05 pm, Tankfixer <paul.carr...@us.army.m> wrote:
In article <1187931545.940155.214...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vith...@gmail.com mumbled
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
So you support a company who lied to the USAF on the certification of
thier product ??
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
Boy you are the only one I have heard that from, do you have a site?
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 01:26:07 AM |
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Eris wrote:
On Aug 24, 10:05 pm, Tankfixer <paul.carr...@us.army.m> wrote:
In article <1187931545.940155.214...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vith...@gmail.com mumbled
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
So you support a company who lied to the USAF on the certification of
thier product ??
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
Boy you are the only one I have heard that from, do you have a site?
Google is your friend, if you're smart enough to use it:
http://armedservices.house.gov/pdfs/FC060607/Thomas_Testimony060607.pdf
failed testing and falsely marked..... other than that, it's great stuff.
redc1c4,
pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious, for fun on a fryday. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 08:03:11 AM |
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On Aug 25, 2:26 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Eris wrote:
On Aug 24, 10:05 pm, Tankfixer <paul.carr...@us.army.m> wrote:
In article <1187931545.940155.214...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vith...@gmail.com mumbled
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
So you support a company who lied to the USAF on the certification of
thier product ??
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
Boy you are the only one I have heard that from, do you have a site?
Google is your friend, if you're smart enough to use it:
http://armedservices.house.gov/pdfs/FC060607/Thomas_Testimony060607.pdf
failed testing and falsely marked..... other than that, it's great stuff.
redc1c4,
pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious, for fun on a fryday. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
Politics as usual
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| User: "Nigel Brooks" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 10:55:22 AM |
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188046991.719343.149820@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 25, 2:26 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Eris wrote:
On Aug 24, 10:05 pm, Tankfixer <paul.carr...@us.army.m> wrote:
In article <1187931545.940155.214...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vith...@gmail.com mumbled
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
So you support a company who lied to the USAF on the certification of
thier product ??
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
Boy you are the only one I have heard that from, do you have a site?
Google is your friend, if you're smart enough to use it:
http://armedservices.house.gov/pdfs/FC060607/Thomas_Testimony060607.pdf
failed testing and falsely marked..... other than that, it's great stuff.
redc1c4,
pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious, for fun on a fryday. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
Politics as usual
What does politics have to do with the fact that the "dragon skin" failed
to stop projectiles or was not certified to level III standard even though
the body armor bore certification labels that it did meet those standards.
Sounds to me like Uncle Sam is holding manufacturer accountable and that any
politics is coming from the vendor.
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Nigel Brooks
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| User: "Tankfixer" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
26 Aug 2007 12:34:05 AM |
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In article <5jb1n3F3t2v00U1@mid.individual.net>, mumbled
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188046991.719343.149820@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 25, 2:26 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Eris wrote:
On Aug 24, 10:05 pm, Tankfixer <paul.carr...@us.army.m> wrote:
In article <1187931545.940155.214...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vith...@gmail.com mumbled
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
So you support a company who lied to the USAF on the certification of
thier product ??
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
Boy you are the only one I have heard that from, do you have a site?
Google is your friend, if you're smart enough to use it:
http://armedservices.house.gov/pdfs/FC060607/Thomas_Testimony060607.pdf
failed testing and falsely marked..... other than that, it's great stuff.
Politics as usual
What does politics have to do with the fact that the "dragon skin" failed
to stop projectiles or was not certified to level III standard even though
the body armor bore certification labels that it did meet those standards.
The companies actions sure look like fraud to this old 11C
Sounds to me like Uncle Sam is holding manufacturer accountable and that any
politics is coming from the vendor.
They are pulling out all the stops trying to get thier "Friends" in
Congress to help em out..
I'll have to goggle thier address to see who's district they are in.
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 02:06:53 PM |
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On Aug 25, 11:55 am, "Nigel Brooks" <nbro...@msn.com> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188046991.719343.149820@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 25, 2:26 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Eris wrote:
On Aug 24, 10:05 pm, Tankfixer <paul.carr...@us.army.m> wrote:
In article <1187931545.940155.214...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vith...@gmail.com mumbled
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
So you support a company who lied to the USAF on the certification of
thier product ??
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
Boy you are the only one I have heard that from, do you have a site?
Google is your friend, if you're smart enough to use it:
http://armedservices.house.gov/pdfs/FC060607/Thomas_Testimony060607.pdf
failed testing and falsely marked..... other than that, it's great stuff.
redc1c4,
pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious, for fun on a fryday. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
Politics as usual
What does politics have to do with the fact that the "dragon skin" failed
to stop projectiles or was not certified to level III standard even though
the body armor bore certification labels that it did meet those standards.
Sounds to me like Uncle Sam is holding manufacturer accountable and that any
politics is coming from the vendor.
--
Nigel Brooks
Independent testing does not support your statement.
Almost everything in the military is political.
Too many people are supporting dragon skin, why would the CIA and FBI
use it if it failed to stop projectiles.
I do not trust the chuckle heads in the military that claim to have
tested it.
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| User: "Tankfixer" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
26 Aug 2007 12:31:50 AM |
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In article <1188046991.719343.149820@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
vithant@gmail.com mumbled
On Aug 25, 2:26 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Eris wrote:
On Aug 24, 10:05 pm, Tankfixer <paul.carr...@us.army.m> wrote:
In article <1187931545.940155.214...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vith...@gmail.com mumbled
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
So you support a company who lied to the USAF on the certification of
thier product ??
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
Boy you are the only one I have heard that from, do you have a site?
Google is your friend, if you're smart enough to use it:
http://armedservices.house.gov/pdfs/FC060607/Thomas_Testimony060607.pdf
failed testing and falsely marked..... other than that, it's great stuff.
Politics as usual
Great stuff, glad you don't mind it weighing 20 pounds more than IBA for
the same protection...
Though you were an ex-infantryman ?
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
26 Aug 2007 01:46:05 AM |
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Tankfixer wrote:
In article <1188046991.719343.149820@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
vithant@gmail.com mumbled
On Aug 25, 2:26 am, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
Eris wrote:
On Aug 24, 10:05 pm, Tankfixer <paul.carr...@us.army.m> wrote:
In article <1187931545.940155.214...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vith...@gmail.com mumbled
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
So you support a company who lied to the USAF on the certification of
thier product ??
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
Boy you are the only one I have heard that from, do you have a site?
Google is your friend, if you're smart enough to use it:
http://armedservices.house.gov/pdfs/FC060607/Thomas_Testimony060607.pdf
failed testing and falsely marked..... other than that, it's great stuff.
Politics as usual
Great stuff, glad you don't mind it weighing 20 pounds more than IBA for
the same protection...
Though you were an ex-infantryman ?
you misspelled "fake infantryman".......
redc1c4,
here to help. %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Tankfixer" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 12:21:07 AM |
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In article <1188011114.779729.313690@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vithant@gmail.com mumbled
On Aug 24, 10:05 pm, Tankfixer <paul.carr...@us.army.m> wrote:
In article <1187931545.940155.214...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
vith...@gmail.com mumbled
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
So you support a company who lied to the USAF on the certification of
thier product ??
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
Boy you are the only one I have heard that from, do you have a site?
No, I have several.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0607/061107cdpm2.htm
http://armedservices.house.gov/pdfs/FC060607/Thomas_Testimony060607.pdf
http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=867
Related articles:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/newsroom/2007/NIJ07057.htm
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/003504.html
--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 11:32:40 AM |
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On 24 aug, 06:59, Eris <vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
Appatently this video contained adult material:)
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
25 Aug 2007 02:08:31 PM |
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On Aug 25, 12:32 pm, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
On 24 aug, 06:59, Eris <vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
Appatently this video contained adult material:)
I wish there was something out there, that Republicans could
comprehend.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Independent testing proves dragon skin superior |
26 Aug 2007 06:24:32 AM |
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On 25 aug, 21:08, Eris <vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 25, 12:32 pm, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
On 24 aug, 06:59, Eris <vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88b_1180997822
Appatently this video contained adult material:)
I wish there was something out there, that Republicans could
comprehend.
Don't worry they can comprehend a lot,
but that's a secret, they won\t let you in too:)
(you might be a security hazard)
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