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"J Young" |
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05 Oct 2006 04:01:36 AM |
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Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0%2C1299%2CDRMN_15_5038731%2C00.html
The American Indian Movement and other activist groups plan to camp at
Denver's Civic Center without permits this weekend to protest Saturday's
Columbus Day parade.
They say they don't need a permit from "an occupying power" to use their own
land.
State and Denver police said Monday they see things otherwise.
If the protesters choose to occupy Veterans Park next to the Capitol as
planned, State Patrol officers will remove them, said Department of Public
Safety spokesman Lance Clem.
Denver police said they will enforce an 11 p.m. curfew for any nearby
property that falls under their jurisdiction.
"We hope that there's not a confrontation," said Glenn Spagnuolo, a member
of the Transform Columbus Day Alliance, one of the protest organizers. "We
hope that our assurances to the police that we will not harm the parade
marchers will (let) us have this camp."
But the group will not ask permission to set up camp, Spagnuolo said.
"Asking an illegal colonizer for permission to be on land that doesn't
belong to them doesn't work for us," he said.
Denver's Columbus Day parade, first held a century ago, is the nation's
oldest. In recent years, however, it has become a lightning rod for
protesters who consider Columbus a genocidal conqueror.
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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05 Oct 2006 04:49:04 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a
significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage.
This post has exceeded the limit for combined factual, logical and
grammatical errors. You will be receiving a bill for your Usenet fine in 1
to 2 business days.
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06 Oct 2006 04:05:03 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:vrSdnaWmALJqHrnYnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a
significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All
of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
You imply that Jews didn't lose significant portions of their population in
the Holocaust and blacks didn't lose significant portions of their
populatiuon in the slave industry, and thus should not complain. And you
used the racist word "coloreds".
Why is that?
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05 Oct 2006 05:18:00 PM |
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In article <vrSdnaWmALJqHrnYnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@giganews.com> "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault )
So, if the Holocaust wasn't America's fault, Jews should just shut up
about it? A rather odd contention.
and the coloreds
Who?
are forever yammering about slavery.
Funny, I have yet to have a black friend bring up the topic to me. Think
they're waiting for me to go first?
Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
Out here in loony-left Arizona we swapped Columbus day for Martin Luther
King Day (one of only two states to mandate MLK Day by popular vote)
There was some protest from the Italian community -- me, if I were
Italian, I could think of dozens and dozens of Italians I'd see
honored before Columbus. That gay boy with the chisel and all
those paintbrushes comes to mind, for example.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0%2C1299%2CDRMN_15_5038731%2C00.html
-- cary
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05 Oct 2006 05:02:06 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
What a stupid liar you are. Columbus was in no way genocial. The
concept didn't even exist in the 15th century.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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05 Oct 2006 06:00:47 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:452491cd$0$34511$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are
forever yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose
a significant portion of it's people, including all of it's territory
and heritage. All of this was done in America's name to these people.
Colombus was a genocidal maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face
to our Native American population. I applaud AIM.
What a stupid liar you are. Columbus was in no way genocial. The
concept didn't even exist in the 15th century.
Actually, he was. In the early 16th century, he was sent back to the "New
World" to become colonial governor of what's now Puerto Rico. In his
capacity, he ordered the slaughter of almost all the Taino people. That's
genocide in my book.
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05 Oct 2006 06:05:07 AM |
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Eric Bohlman wrote:
rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:452491cd$0$34511$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are
forever yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose
a significant portion of it's people, including all of it's territory
and heritage. All of this was done in America's name to these people.
Colombus was a genocidal maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face
to our Native American population. I applaud AIM.
What a stupid liar you are. Columbus was in no way genocial. The
concept didn't even exist in the 15th century.
Actually, he was. In the early 16th century, he was sent back to the "New
World" to become colonial governor of what's now Puerto Rico. In his
capacity, he ordered the slaughter of almost all the Taino people. That's
genocide in my book.
You'll have to excuse ray, his family didn't evolve.................
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05 Oct 2006 03:40:13 PM |
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Another hyperactive schizo-troll, "bobandcarole"
<bobandcarole222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You'll have to excuse ray, his family didn't evolve.................
Should we excuse your schizophrenia, "bob/carole/orlando/tubby/Zilteee"?:
From: "bobandcarole" <bobandcarole222@hotmail.com>
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LC~ Apparently MPD is mandatory for rightard trolls.
"The goober sockpuppet is as idiotic as the sick ***** behind it."
From: "bobandcarole" bobandcarole...@hotmail.com, in a rare moment of
introspection.
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05 Oct 2006 04:47:19 PM |
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"LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote in message
news:eg391602c8n@enews1.newsguy.com...
Another hyperactive schizo-troll, "bobandcarole"
<bobandcarole222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160028307.729212.191000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
You'll have to excuse ray, his family didn't
evolve.................
Should we excuse your schizophrenia,
"bob/carole/orlando/tubby/Zilteee"?:
I don't think so......BTW, where's Ted & Alice? I keep expecting him
to use those two, too.....
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05 Oct 2006 05:03:03 PM |
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"Ghod" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:eg3cun$bou$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
"LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote in message
news:eg391602c8n@enews1.newsguy.com...
Another hyperactive schizo-troll, "bobandcarole"
<bobandcarole222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160028307.729212.191000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
You'll have to excuse ray, his family didn't
evolve.................
Should we excuse your schizophrenia,
"bob/carole/orlando/tubby/Zilteee"?:
I don't think so......
Me neither.
After all, this is the loon who spends most of his Usenet time trolling
pedophile groups, because he "hates" them.
Yeah, right...
BTW, where's Ted & Alice? I keep expecting him to use those two, too.....
I imagine that, like "carole", they're also figments of his demented
imagination.
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05 Oct 2006 06:59:46 PM |
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"LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote in message
news:eg3dse08mo@enews3.newsguy.com...
"Ghod" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:eg3cun$bou$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
"LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote in message
news:eg391602c8n@enews1.newsguy.com...
Another hyperactive schizo-troll, "bobandcarole"
<bobandcarole222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160028307.729212.191000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
You'll have to excuse ray, his family didn't
evolve.................
Should we excuse your schizophrenia,
"bob/carole/orlando/tubby/Zilteee"?:
I don't think so......
Me neither.
After all, this is the loon who spends most of his Usenet time
trolling
pedophile groups, because he "hates" them.
Yeah, right...
BTW, where's Ted & Alice? I keep expecting him to use those two,
too.....
I imagine that, like "carole", they're also figments of his demented
imagination.
Ever since I first saw his "bobcarole" nym, I keep thinking of that
film, Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice......heh. On the other hand, I've
never gotten around to watching it.
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06 Oct 2006 01:08:00 AM |
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Ghod wrote:
"LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote in message
news:eg3dse08mo@enews3.newsguy.com...
"Ghod" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:eg3cun$bou$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
"LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote in message
news:eg391602c8n@enews1.newsguy.com...
Another hyperactive schizo-troll, "bobandcarole"
<bobandcarole222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160028307.729212.191000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
You'll have to excuse ray, his family didn't
evolve.................
Should we excuse your schizophrenia,
"bob/carole/orlando/tubby/Zilteee"?:
I don't think so......
Me neither.
After all, this is the loon who spends most of his Usenet time
trolling
pedophile groups, because he "hates" them.
Yeah, right...
BTW, where's Ted & Alice? I keep expecting him to use those two,
too.....
I imagine that, like "carole", they're also figments of his demented
imagination.
Ever since I first saw his "bobcarole" nym, I keep thinking of that
film, Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice......heh. On the other hand, I've
never gotten around to watching it.
That sure dates you, you old *****...............
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06 Oct 2006 04:37:41 AM |
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bobandcarole <bobandcarole222@hotmail.com> wrote:
You'll have to excuse ray, his family didn't evolve.................
That coming from the bigot who hates all gays.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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05 Oct 2006 05:13:32 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
What a stupid liar you are. Columbus was in no way genocial. The
concept didn't even exist in the 15th century.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
History Not Taught is History Forgot:
Columbus' Legacy of Genocide
Excerpted from the book Indians are Us
(Common Courage Press, 1994)
by Ward Churchill
Columbus and the Beginning of Genocide in the "New World"
http://web.mit.edu/thistle/www/v9/9.11/1columbus.html
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05 Oct 2006 05:37:19 AM |
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"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[...]
History Not Taught is History Forgot:
Columbus' Legacy of Genocide
Excerpted from the book Indians are Us
(Common Courage Press, 1994)
by Ward Churchill
Columbus and the Beginning of Genocide in the "New World"
http://web.mit.edu/thistle/www/v9/9.11/1columbus.html
Interesting, but of course it's written from a modern point of view.
Genocide has been the norm throughout recorded human history. The Hebrews,
the Romans, the Parthians, the Germans, the Gauls, the Huns, the Mongols,
and more - all of them obliterated entire peoples as a matter of course.
Mostly they did it for "lebensraum". Sometimes they did it for punishment,
sometimes in defense of their home territory. Sad, but a fact of life.
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05 Oct 2006 01:21:04 PM |
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Dale wrote:
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160025212.228894.146700@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
[...]
History Not Taught is History Forgot:
Columbus' Legacy of Genocide
Excerpted from the book Indians are Us
(Common Courage Press, 1994)
by Ward Churchill
Columbus and the Beginning of Genocide in the "New World"
http://web.mit.edu/thistle/www/v9/9.11/1columbus.html
Interesting, but of course it's written from a modern point of view.
Genocide has been the norm throughout recorded human history. The Hebrews,
the Romans, the Parthians, the Germans, the Gauls, the Huns, the Mongols,
and more - all of them obliterated entire peoples as a matter of course.
Mostly they did it for "lebensraum". Sometimes they did it for punishment,
sometimes in defense of their home territory. Sad, but a fact of life.
The Native Americans were pretty darn good at it too. Nowhere
near as good at it as, say, European diseases, but not for lack
of trying.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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05 Oct 2006 02:06:10 PM |
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On 4 Oct 2006 22:13:32 -0700, "bobandcarole" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
What a stupid liar you are. Columbus was in no way genocial. The
concept didn't even exist in the 15th century.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
History Not Taught is History Forgot:
Columbus' Legacy of Genocide
Excerpted from the book Indians are Us
(Common Courage Press, 1994)
by Ward Churchill
Columbus and the Beginning of Genocide in the "New World"
http://web.mit.edu/thistle/www/v9/9.11/1columbus.html
I can refer you to another book that describes how the earth was made in 6 days
by a supreme being.
Ben
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"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in
message news:c74ai2d8o27neqc4bfb2kcl54nb2a8nrru@4ax.com...
On 4 Oct 2006 22:13:32 -0700, "bobandcarole"
<bobandcarole007@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about
the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are
forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a
significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and
heritage. All of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a
genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native
American
population. I applaud AIM.
What a stupid liar you are. Columbus was in no way genocial.
The
concept didn't even exist in the 15th century.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
History Not Taught is History Forgot:
Columbus' Legacy of Genocide
Excerpted from the book Indians are Us
(Common Courage Press, 1994)
by Ward Churchill
Columbus and the Beginning of Genocide in the "New World"
http://web.mit.edu/thistle/www/v9/9.11/1columbus.html
I can refer you to another book that describes how the earth was
made in 6 days
by a supreme being.
You can keep your big book o' fairytales.....
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05 Oct 2006 06:04:52 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
What a stupid liar you are. Columbus was in no way genocial. The
concept didn't even exist in the 15th century.
In a period of two years, Columbus and his men killed half of the
250,000 Arawaks living in present day Haiti. If that's not genocide, I
don't know what is.
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06 Oct 2006 04:45:45 AM |
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Josh Miles <no@thanks.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
What a stupid liar you are. Columbus was in no way genocial. The
concept didn't even exist in the 15th century.
In a period of two years, Columbus and his men killed half of the
250,000 Arawaks living in present day Haiti. If that's not genocide, I
don't know what is.
PC revisionism.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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06 Oct 2006 09:10:05 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Josh Miles <no@thanks.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
What a stupid liar you are. Columbus was in no way genocial. The
concept didn't even exist in the 15th century.
In a period of two years, Columbus and his men killed half of the
250,000 Arawaks living in present day Haiti. If that's not genocide, I
don't know what is.
PC revisionism.
No argument. Didn't think so.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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10 Oct 2006 03:59:55 PM |
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Josh Miles <no@thanks.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Josh Miles <no@thanks.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
What a stupid liar you are. Columbus was in no way genocial. The
concept didn't even exist in the 15th century.
In a period of two years, Columbus and his men killed half of the
250,000 Arawaks living in present day Haiti. If that's not genocide, I
don't know what is.
PC revisionism.
No argument. Didn't think so.
No evidence.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
05 Oct 2006 06:07:28 AM |
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J Young a =E9crit :
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust
You can deny this historical fact, but they're absolutely right.
( as if that's America's fault )
Please, provide us ONE instance where the Jewish community implies that
it's America's fault? It's still a fact though that the USA knew about
the concentration camps but didn't do anything about it before being
forced in to war.
and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery.
***** you nazi *****. I hope one day you're attacked and beaten by
some "coloured".
Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All=
of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
Since when are you remotely interested in people who aren't white,
catholic and sexually-repressed like you?
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0%2C1299%2CDRMN_15_50=
38731%2C00.html
The American Indian Movement and other activist groups plan to camp at
Denver's Civic Center without permits this weekend to protest Saturday's
Columbus Day parade.
They say they don't need a permit from "an occupying power" to use their =
own
land.
State and Denver police said Monday they see things otherwise.
If the protesters choose to occupy Veterans Park next to the Capitol as
planned, State Patrol officers will remove them, said Department of Public
Safety spokesman Lance Clem.
Denver police said they will enforce an 11 p.m. curfew for any nearby
property that falls under their jurisdiction.
"We hope that there's not a confrontation," said Glenn Spagnuolo, a member
of the Transform Columbus Day Alliance, one of the protest organizers. "We
hope that our assurances to the police that we will not harm the parade
marchers will (let) us have this camp."
But the group will not ask permission to set up camp, Spagnuolo said.
"Asking an illegal colonizer for permission to be on land that doesn't
belong to them doesn't work for us," he said.
Denver's Columbus Day parade, first held a century ago, is the nation's
oldest. In recent years, however, it has become a lightning rod for
protesters who consider Columbus a genocidal conqueror.
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| User: "Strife767" |
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| Title: Re: Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
05 Oct 2006 06:15:00 PM |
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:07:28 -0400, Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:
J Young a écrit :
and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery.
***** you nazi *****. I hope one day you're attacked and beaten by
some "coloured".
Ooh, you added the 'u.' XD Colouuuuuured.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
05 Oct 2006 08:37:07 PM |
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Strife767 schrieb:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:07:28 -0400, Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:
J Young a =E9crit :
and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery.
***** you nazi *****. I hope one day you're attacked and beaten by
some "coloured".
Ooh, you added the 'u.' XD Colouuuuuured.
Sorry, I don't get it... Yes, I put a "u" at "coloured". Your point?
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| User: "Strife767" |
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| Title: Re: Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
06 Oct 2006 09:03:52 PM |
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:37:07 -0400, Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
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Strife767 schrieb:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:07:28 -0400, Parsifal
<jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:
J Young a écrit :
and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery.
***** you nazi *****. I hope one day you're attacked and beaten by
some "coloured".
Ooh, you added the 'u.' XD Colouuuuuured.
Sorry, I don't get it...
Don't beat yourself up too much. It didn't really mean much.
Yes, I put a "u" at "coloured". Your point?
The British spelling of words like that has always had a more 'dignified'
connotation to me, and that made me laugh because of the actual word being
used, and the context.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
06 Oct 2006 12:42:10 AM |
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Parsifal wrote:
Sorry, I don't get it... Yes, I put a "u" at "coloured". Your point?
The world begins and ends at America. Didn't you know? ;-)
(This is fortunate because everyone else drives on the wrong damn side
of the fucking road.)
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| User: "Tuco Ramirez" |
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| Title: Re: Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
06 Oct 2006 12:50:08 AM |
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Parsifal wrote:
J Young a =E9crit :
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust
You can deny this historical fact, but they're absolutely right.
( as if that's America's fault )
Please, provide us ONE instance where the Jewish community implies that
it's America's fault? It's still a fact though that the USA knew about
the concentration camps but didn't do anything about it before being
forced in to war.
and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery.
***** you nazi *****. I hope one day you're attacked and beaten by
some "coloured".
Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significant
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. A=
ll of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocid=
al
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
Since when are you remotely interested in people who aren't white,
catholic and sexually-repressed like you?
Let's see:
If she had attacked the indians, you would have said she is a racist.
She defended the indians, but that's wrong too because it wasn't the
expected response from her.
Congratulations!
You are a bigger ***** than I thought.
It just happens that Columbus had nothing to do with the killing, which
of course neither JY nor you let get in the way.
Why don't you talk about how many indians, algerians, vietnamese, etc.
YOUR people killed?
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0%2C1299%2CDRMN_15_=
5038731%2C00.html
The American Indian Movement and other activist groups plan to camp at
Denver's Civic Center without permits this weekend to protest Saturday's
Columbus Day parade.
They say they don't need a permit from "an occupying power" to use thei=
r own
land.
State and Denver police said Monday they see things otherwise.
If the protesters choose to occupy Veterans Park next to the Capitol as
planned, State Patrol officers will remove them, said Department of Pub=
lic
Safety spokesman Lance Clem.
Denver police said they will enforce an 11 p.m. curfew for any nearby
property that falls under their jurisdiction.
"We hope that there's not a confrontation," said Glenn Spagnuolo, a mem=
ber
of the Transform Columbus Day Alliance, one of the protest organizers. =
"We
hope that our assurances to the police that we will not harm the parade
marchers will (let) us have this camp."
But the group will not ask permission to set up camp, Spagnuolo said.
"Asking an illegal colonizer for permission to be on land that doesn't
belong to them doesn't work for us," he said.
Denver's Columbus Day parade, first held a century ago, is the nation's
oldest. In recent years, however, it has become a lightning rod for
protesters who consider Columbus a genocidal conqueror.
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youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "DarkAngel" |
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| Title: Re: Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
05 Oct 2006 02:03:24 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Colombus was a genocidal maniac and to honor him is a slap
in the face to our Native American population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Columbus
*****. Even when you're right you hurt your cause.
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No Gods. No Masters.
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| User: "Ghod" |
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| Title: Re: Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
05 Oct 2006 04:59:25 PM |
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"DarkAngel" <drkangel666@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160057004.186082.187720@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
Colombus was a genocidal maniac and to honor him is a slap
in the face to our Native American population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Columbus
*****. Even when you're right you hurt your cause.
You'll have to excuse him, he was dropped on his head as a baby.
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: Re: Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
05 Oct 2006 04:31:12 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significa=
nt
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All=
of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0%2C1299%2CDRMN_15_50=
38731%2C00.html
The American Indian Movement and other activist groups plan to camp at
Denver's Civic Center without permits this weekend to protest Saturday's
Columbus Day parade.
Would that be the Cleveland Indians or the Atlanta Braves?
They say they don't need a permit from "an occupying power" to use their =
own
land.
State and Denver police said Monday they see things otherwise.
If the protesters choose to occupy Veterans Park next to the Capitol as
planned, State Patrol officers will remove them, said Department of Public
Safety spokesman Lance Clem.
Denver police said they will enforce an 11 p.m. curfew for any nearby
property that falls under their jurisdiction.
"We hope that there's not a confrontation," said Glenn Spagnuolo, a member
of the Transform Columbus Day Alliance, one of the protest organizers. "We
hope that our assurances to the police that we will not harm the parade
marchers will (let) us have this camp."
But the group will not ask permission to set up camp, Spagnuolo said.
"Asking an illegal colonizer for permission to be on land that doesn't
belong to them doesn't work for us," he said.
Denver's Columbus Day parade, first held a century ago, is the nation's
oldest. In recent years, however, it has become a lightning rod for
protesters who consider Columbus a genocidal conqueror.
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youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Indians to protest Columbus Day parade |
05 Oct 2006 04:21:46 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Finally; a minority with a legitimate gripe. The jews cry about the
holocaust ( as if that's America's fault ) and the coloreds are forever
yammering about slavery. Indians, on the other hand, did lose a significa=
nt
portion of it's people, including all of it's territory and heritage. All=
of
this was done in America's name to these people. Colombus was a genocidal
maniac and to honor him is a slap in the face to our Native American
population. I applaud AIM.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0%2C1299%2CDRMN_15_50=
38731%2C00.html
The American Indian Movement and other activist groups plan to camp at
Denver's Civic Center without permits this weekend to protest Saturday's
Columbus Day parade.
They say they don't need a permit from "an occupying power" to use their =
own
land.
State and Denver police said Monday they see things otherwise.
If the protesters choose to occupy Veterans Park next to the Capitol as
planned, State Patrol officers will remove them, said Department of Public
Safety spokesman Lance Clem.
Denver police said they will enforce an 11 p.m. curfew for any nearby
property that falls under their jurisdiction.
"We hope that there's not a confrontation," said Glenn Spagnuolo, a member
of the Transform Columbus Day Alliance, one of the protest organizers. "We
hope that our assurances to the police that we will not harm the parade
marchers will (let) us have this camp."
But the group will not ask permission to set up camp, Spagnuolo said.
"Asking an illegal colonizer for permission to be on land that doesn't
belong to them doesn't work for us," he said.
Denver's Columbus Day parade, first held a century ago, is the nation's
oldest. In recent years, however, it has become a lightning rod for
protesters who consider Columbus a genocidal conqueror.
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youngopinions@aol.com
I always wondered why the attempted genocide against Natives was never
recorded in History as a "Holocaust". It started with Columbus'
arrival and continued into the the 20th century.
Millions of innocent people were killed. Doesn't that qualify as a
Holocaust?
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