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"stoney" |
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15 Jul 2005 10:37:31 PM |
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Institutionalized Christian Bigotry Strikes Again |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8587678/
Christian adoption agency bars Catholic clients
Program funded in part by ‘Choose Life’ license plates cites religious
conflict
The Associated Press
Updated: 5:47 p.m. ET July 15, 2005
JACKSON, Miss. - A Christian adoption agency that receives money from
“Choose Life” license plate fees said it does not place children with
Roman Catholic couples because their religion conflicts with the
agency’s “Statement of Faith.”
Bethany Christian Services stated the policy in a letter to a Jackson
couple this month, and another Mississippi couple said they were
rejected for the same reason last year.
“It has been our understanding that Catholicism does not agree with
our Statement of Faith,” Bethany’s state director Karen Stewart wrote.
“Our practice to not accept applications from Catholics was an effort
to be good stewards of an adoptive applicant’s time, money and
emotional energy.”
Sandy and Robert Steadman, who learned of Bethany’s decision in a July
8 letter, said their priest told them the faith statement did not
conflict with Catholic teaching.
Loria Williams of nearby Ridgeland said she and her husband, Wes, had
a similar experience when they started to pursue an adoption in
September 2004.
“I can’t believe an agency that’s nationwide would act like this,”
Loria Williams said. “There was an agency who was Christian-based but
wasn’t willing to help people across the board.”
Policy to be reviewed
Bethany, based in Grand Rapids, Mich., has 75 offices in 30 states,
including three in Mississippi. The offices are independently
incorporated and are affiliated with various religions, spokesman John
Van Valkenburg said from the agency headquarters. He couldn’t say
whether any were Catholic-affiliated.
He said the Jackson office is affiliated with the Presbyterian Church
of America.
“They included this practice of not including Catholics,” Van
Valkenburg said Friday.
Stewart told the Jackson Clarion-Ledger that Bethany’s board will
review its policy, but she didn’t specify which aspects will be
addressed.
The agency’s Web site says all Bethany staff and adoptive applicants
personally agree with the faith statement, which describes belief in
the Christian church and the Scripture. It does not refer to any
specific branches of Christianity.
“As the Savior, Jesus takes away the sins of the world,” the statement
says in part. “Jesus is the one in whom we are called to put our hope,
our only hope for forgiveness of sin and for reconciliation with God
and with one another.”
‘Choose Life’ tags for one and all
Sandy Steadman said she was hurt and disappointed that Bethany
received funds from the Choose Life car license plates. “I know of a
lot of Catholics who get those tags,” she said.
She added: “If it’s OK to accept our money, it should be OK to open
your home to us as a family.”
Bethany is one of 24 adoption and pregnancy counseling centers in
Mississippi that receive money from the sale of Choose Life tags, a
special plate that motorists can obtain with an extra fee.
Of $244,000 generated by the sale of the tags in 2004, Bethany
received $7,053, said Geraldine Gray, treasurer of Choose Life
Mississippi, which distributes the money.
“It is troubling to me if they are discriminating based on only the
Catholics,” Gray said.
The Bethany spokesman, van Valkenburg, said the offices in Mississippi
do not receive any public money, but that some offices in other states
do, for example, because they are involved in foster care.
© 2005 The Associated Press
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Institutionalized Christian Bigotry Strikes Again |
16 Jul 2005 05:30:54 AM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8587678/
Christian adoption agency bars Catholic clients
How much to you want to bet that they'd also bar atheists, Jews, Hindus,
etc? This couple should have done what my parents did when they were
looking to adopt me - Lie about their religious affiliation.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Institutionalized Christian Bigotry Strikes Again |
23 Jul 2005 04:51:32 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 06:30:54 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:k30hd113fdavo7hcknbspfecfn9ne6iqat@4ax.com...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8587678/
Christian adoption agency bars Catholic clients
How much to you want to bet that they'd also bar atheists, Jews, Hindus,
etc?
Does the Pope bugger children?
This couple should have done what my parents did when they were
looking to adopt me - Lie about their religious affiliation.
The couple, being Christians, didn't expect that to be necessary.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Institutionalized Christian Bigotry Strikes Again |
16 Jul 2005 02:11:56 AM |
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In article <k30hd113fdavo7hcknbspfecfn9ne6iqat@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8587678/
Christian adoption agency bars Catholic clients
Program funded in part by ‘Choose Life’ license plates cites religious
conflict
The Associated Press
Updated: 5:47 p.m. ET July 15, 2005
JACKSON, Miss. - A Christian adoption agency that receives money from
“Choose Life” license plate fees said it does not place children with
Roman Catholic couples because their religion conflicts with the
agency’s “Statement of Faith.”
Bethany Christian Services stated the policy in a letter to a Jackson
couple this month, and another Mississippi couple said they were
rejected for the same reason last year.
“It has been our understanding that Catholicism does not agree with
our Statement of Faith,” Bethany’s state director Karen Stewart wrote.
“Our practice to not accept applications from Catholics was an effort
to be good stewards of an adoptive applicant’s time, money and
emotional energy.”
Sandy and Robert Steadman, who learned of Bethany’s decision in a July
8 letter, said their priest told them the faith statement did not
conflict with Catholic teaching.
Loria Williams of nearby Ridgeland said she and her husband, Wes, had
a similar experience when they started to pursue an adoption in
September 2004.
“I can’t believe an agency that’s nationwide would act like this,”
Loria Williams said. “There was an agency who was Christian-based but
wasn’t willing to help people across the board.”
Policy to be reviewed
Bethany, based in Grand Rapids, Mich., has 75 offices in 30 states,
including three in Mississippi. The offices are independently
incorporated and are affiliated with various religions, spokesman John
Van Valkenburg said from the agency headquarters. He couldn’t say
whether any were Catholic-affiliated.
He said the Jackson office is affiliated with the Presbyterian Church
of America.
“They included this practice of not including Catholics,” Van
Valkenburg said Friday.
Stewart told the Jackson Clarion-Ledger that Bethany’s board will
review its policy, but she didn’t specify which aspects will be
addressed.
The agency’s Web site says all Bethany staff and adoptive applicants
personally agree with the faith statement, which describes belief in
the Christian church and the Scripture. It does not refer to any
specific branches of Christianity.
“As the Savior, Jesus takes away the sins of the world,” the statement
says in part. “Jesus is the one in whom we are called to put our hope,
our only hope for forgiveness of sin and for reconciliation with God
and with one another.”
‘Choose Life’ tags for one and all
Sandy Steadman said she was hurt and disappointed that Bethany
received funds from the Choose Life car license plates. “I know of a
lot of Catholics who get those tags,” she said.
She added: “If it’s OK to accept our money, it should be OK to open
your home to us as a family.”
Bethany is one of 24 adoption and pregnancy counseling centers in
Mississippi that receive money from the sale of Choose Life tags, a
special plate that motorists can obtain with an extra fee.
Of $244,000 generated by the sale of the tags in 2004, Bethany
received $7,053, said Geraldine Gray, treasurer of Choose Life
Mississippi, which distributes the money.
“It is troubling to me if they are discriminating based on only the
Catholics,” Gray said.
The Bethany spokesman, van Valkenburg, said the offices in Mississippi
do not receive any public money, but that some offices in other states
do, for example, because they are involved in foster care.
© 2005 The Associated Press
Stupid fundies. But then, I repeat myself.
I guess that Catholics aren't 'Christian' enough for them.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Institutionalized Christian Bigotry Strikes Again |
16 Jul 2005 05:32:49 AM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-59AA6D.00115616072005@news.giganews.com...
In article <k30hd113fdavo7hcknbspfecfn9ne6iqat@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
snip
"It is troubling to me if they are discriminating based on only the
Catholics," Gray said.
The Bethany spokesman, van Valkenburg, said the offices in Mississippi
do not receive any public money, but that some offices in other states
do, for example, because they are involved in foster care.
© 2005 The Associated Press
Stupid fundies. But then, I repeat myself.
I guess that Catholics aren't 'Christian' enough for them.
I think it's ***** that they're discriminating ONLY against Catholics.
Obviously they'd be discrimating against other religious groups and
non-believers as well. And adoption is supposed to be about finding a good
home for a child - too bad that's often not the case :P
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Institutionalized Christian Bigotry Strikes Again |
17 Jul 2005 01:44:19 AM |
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In article <3js62eFrgfkcU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-59AA6D.00115616072005@news.giganews.com...
In article <k30hd113fdavo7hcknbspfecfn9ne6iqat@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
snip
"It is troubling to me if they are discriminating based on only the
Catholics," Gray said.
The Bethany spokesman, van Valkenburg, said the offices in Mississippi
do not receive any public money, but that some offices in other states
do, for example, because they are involved in foster care.
© 2005 The Associated Press
Stupid fundies. But then, I repeat myself.
I guess that Catholics aren't 'Christian' enough for them.
I think it's ***** that they're discriminating ONLY against Catholics.
Obviously they'd be discrimating against other religious groups and
non-believers as well. And adoption is supposed to be about finding a good
home for a child - too bad that's often not the case :P
I'm sure that they discriminate against Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists,
Jews, and, of course, atheists too. And I suppose that gays can just
forget about it. I agree that they forget the purpose of an adoption is
to find good homes for the kids. Instead they want little clones of
themselves.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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