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07 Apr 2005 08:54:05 AM |
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Interesting scientific position from the Vatican |
Hi,
I read this today in The Guardian - it's the the "Bad Science" column
of The Guardian's weekly science supplement "Life". "Bad Science" is
usually concerned with general scientific charlatanry, such as miracle
diets and advertising claims based on scientific-sounding nonsense:
"Pope of Popes, the People's Pope, Pope John Paul the Great. But to
many he will perhaps be remembered as the African Aids Victims' Pope.
Who could forget Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, president of the
Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family, telling us all that HIV
could pass through impermeable latex condoms? "The Aids virus is 450
times smaller than the spermatozoon," he said. "The spermatozoon can
easily pass through the 'net' formed by the condom." The devil sent
half of all new HIV infections to people under the age of 25, most of
them women in developing countries, to taunt him, but JPII steadfastly
presided over cardinals, bishops, priests and nuns in four continents,
spreading the message that HIV can pass through tiny holes in condoms,
discouraging use of barrier contraception, and making this a better
world for us all. Bravo."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/badscience/story/0,12980,1453310,00.html
The tone is, as you can see, somewhat less than positive towards the
Catholic Church's approach here. I just wonder how, when this is
scientifically-provable nonsense, the Cardinal and his ilk justify to
their consciences standing in the way of the only really effective
method of slowing the Afrian AIDS epidemic? Or maybe they don't care
to examine the actual evidence, and thus can adopt an
internally-convincing doublethink...
Steve
(Pentylzic)
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: Interesting scientific position from the Vatican |
07 Apr 2005 11:14:40 PM |
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<zamp@emphyrio.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1112864045.197933.98610@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Hi,
I read this today in The Guardian - it's the the "Bad Science" column
of The Guardian's weekly science supplement "Life". "Bad Science" is
usually concerned with general scientific charlatanry, such as miracle
diets and advertising claims based on scientific-sounding nonsense:
"Pope of Popes, the People's Pope, Pope John Paul the Great. But to
many he will perhaps be remembered as the African Aids Victims' Pope.
Who could forget Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, president of the
Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family, telling us all that HIV
could pass through impermeable latex condoms? "The Aids virus is 450
times smaller than the spermatozoon," he said. "The spermatozoon can
easily pass through the 'net' formed by the condom." The devil sent
half of all new HIV infections to people under the age of 25, most of
them women in developing countries, to taunt him, but JPII steadfastly
presided over cardinals, bishops, priests and nuns in four continents,
spreading the message that HIV can pass through tiny holes in condoms,
discouraging use of barrier contraception, and making this a better
world for us all. Bravo."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/badscience/story/0,12980,1453310,00.html
The tone is, as you can see, somewhat less than positive towards the
Catholic Church's approach here. I just wonder how, when this is
scientifically-provable nonsense, the Cardinal and his ilk justify to
their consciences standing in the way of the only really effective
method of slowing the Afrian AIDS epidemic? Or maybe they don't care
to examine the actual evidence, and thus can adopt an
internally-convincing doublethink...
While there are no doubt some folks on the dark continent who may have
passed up o using a condom because of this misinformation, let's face the
real truth here. The dirt-worlders that inhabit most of modern Africa are
intent on fucking themselves to death and the unlimited availabilty of
prohylactics are not going to solve the problem if they're too dumb or too
"macho" to use them.
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: Interesting scientific position from the Vatican |
09 Apr 2005 03:45:36 AM |
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On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:14:40 GMT the ET form known as
Fester<not@home.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of
deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
<zamp@emphyrio.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1112864045.197933.98610@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Hi,
I read this today in The Guardian - it's the the "Bad Science" column
of The Guardian's weekly science supplement "Life". "Bad Science" is
usually concerned with general scientific charlatanry, such as miracle
diets and advertising claims based on scientific-sounding nonsense:
"Pope of Popes, the People's Pope, Pope John Paul the Great. But to
many he will perhaps be remembered as the African Aids Victims' Pope.
Who could forget Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, president of the
Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family, telling us all that HIV
could pass through impermeable latex condoms? "The Aids virus is 450
times smaller than the spermatozoon," he said. "The spermatozoon can
easily pass through the 'net' formed by the condom." The devil sent
half of all new HIV infections to people under the age of 25, most of
them women in developing countries, to taunt him, but JPII steadfastly
presided over cardinals, bishops, priests and nuns in four continents,
spreading the message that HIV can pass through tiny holes in condoms,
discouraging use of barrier contraception, and making this a better
world for us all. Bravo."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/badscience/story/0,12980,1453310,00.html
The tone is, as you can see, somewhat less than positive towards the
Catholic Church's approach here. I just wonder how, when this is
scientifically-provable nonsense, the Cardinal and his ilk justify to
their consciences standing in the way of the only really effective
method of slowing the Afrian AIDS epidemic? Or maybe they don't care
to examine the actual evidence, and thus can adopt an
internally-convincing doublethink...
While there are no doubt some folks on the dark continent who may have
passed up o using a condom because of this misinformation, let's face the
real truth here. The dirt-worlders that inhabit most of modern Africa are
intent on fucking themselves to death and the unlimited availabilty of
prohylactics are not going to solve the problem if they're too dumb or too
"macho" to use them.
What an unpleasant guy you are Fester!
Plonk!
--
rot13
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
-Mencken
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: Interesting scientific position from the Vatican |
09 Apr 2005 11:27:14 AM |
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"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@optusnet,com.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cc1d7c7b77b4a6298a0fa@news.optusnet.com.au...
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:14:40 GMT the ET form known as
Fester<not@home.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of
deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
<zamp@emphyrio.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1112864045.197933.98610@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Hi,
I read this today in The Guardian - it's the the "Bad Science" column
of The Guardian's weekly science supplement "Life". "Bad Science" is
usually concerned with general scientific charlatanry, such as miracle
diets and advertising claims based on scientific-sounding nonsense:
"Pope of Popes, the People's Pope, Pope John Paul the Great. But to
many he will perhaps be remembered as the African Aids Victims' Pope.
Who could forget Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, president of the
Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family, telling us all that HIV
could pass through impermeable latex condoms? "The Aids virus is 450
times smaller than the spermatozoon," he said. "The spermatozoon can
easily pass through the 'net' formed by the condom." The devil sent
half of all new HIV infections to people under the age of 25, most of
them women in developing countries, to taunt him, but JPII steadfastly
presided over cardinals, bishops, priests and nuns in four continents,
spreading the message that HIV can pass through tiny holes in condoms,
discouraging use of barrier contraception, and making this a better
world for us all. Bravo."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/badscience/story/0,12980,1453310,00.html
The tone is, as you can see, somewhat less than positive towards the
Catholic Church's approach here. I just wonder how, when this is
scientifically-provable nonsense, the Cardinal and his ilk justify to
their consciences standing in the way of the only really effective
method of slowing the Afrian AIDS epidemic? Or maybe they don't care
to examine the actual evidence, and thus can adopt an
internally-convincing doublethink...
While there are no doubt some folks on the dark continent who may have
passed up o using a condom because of this misinformation, let's face the
real truth here. The dirt-worlders that inhabit most of modern Africa
are
intent on fucking themselves to death and the unlimited availabilty of
prohylactics are not going to solve the problem if they're too dumb or
too
"macho" to use them.
What an unpleasant guy you are Fester!
So you can't handle the truth.
Plonk!
As though you ever wrote anyting worth reading.
Plonk, right back achya.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Interesting scientific position from the Vatican |
10 Apr 2005 05:28:14 PM |
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On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:15:36 +0930, Meteorite Debris
<abuse@optusnet,com.au> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:14:40 GMT the ET form known as
Fester<not@home.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of
deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
<zamp@emphyrio.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1112864045.197933.98610@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Hi,
I read this today in The Guardian - it's the the "Bad Science" column
of The Guardian's weekly science supplement "Life". "Bad Science" is
usually concerned with general scientific charlatanry, such as miracle
diets and advertising claims based on scientific-sounding nonsense:
"Pope of Popes, the People's Pope, Pope John Paul the Great. But to
many he will perhaps be remembered as the African Aids Victims' Pope.
Who could forget Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, president of the
Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family, telling us all that HIV
could pass through impermeable latex condoms? "The Aids virus is 450
times smaller than the spermatozoon," he said. "The spermatozoon can
easily pass through the 'net' formed by the condom." The devil sent
half of all new HIV infections to people under the age of 25, most of
them women in developing countries, to taunt him, but JPII steadfastly
presided over cardinals, bishops, priests and nuns in four continents,
spreading the message that HIV can pass through tiny holes in condoms,
discouraging use of barrier contraception, and making this a better
world for us all. Bravo."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/badscience/story/0,12980,1453310,00.html
The tone is, as you can see, somewhat less than positive towards the
Catholic Church's approach here. I just wonder how, when this is
scientifically-provable nonsense, the Cardinal and his ilk justify to
their consciences standing in the way of the only really effective
method of slowing the Afrian AIDS epidemic? Or maybe they don't care
to examine the actual evidence, and thus can adopt an
internally-convincing doublethink...
While there are no doubt some folks on the dark continent who may have
passed up o using a condom because of this misinformation, let's face the
real truth here. The dirt-worlders that inhabit most of modern Africa are
intent on fucking themselves to death and the unlimited availabilty of
prohylactics are not going to solve the problem if they're too dumb or too
"macho" to use them.
What an unpleasant guy you are Fester!
Fester is a pustering festering bunghole, just like Fred.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: Interesting scientific position from the Vatican |
07 Apr 2005 11:56:30 AM |
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wrote:
Hi,
I read this today in The Guardian - it's the the "Bad Science" column
of The Guardian's weekly science supplement "Life". "Bad Science" is
usually concerned with general scientific charlatanry, such as miracle
diets and advertising claims based on scientific-sounding nonsense:
"Pope of Popes, the People's Pope, Pope John Paul the Great. But to
many he will perhaps be remembered as the African Aids Victims' Pope.
Who could forget Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, president of the
Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family, telling us all that HIV
could pass through impermeable latex condoms? "The Aids virus is 450
times smaller than the spermatozoon," he said. "The spermatozoon can
easily pass through the 'net' formed by the condom." The devil sent
half of all new HIV infections to people under the age of 25, most of
them women in developing countries, to taunt him, but JPII steadfastly
presided over cardinals, bishops, priests and nuns in four continents,
spreading the message that HIV can pass through tiny holes in condoms,
discouraging use of barrier contraception, and making this a better
world for us all. Bravo."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/badscience/story/0,12980,1453310,00.html
The tone is, as you can see, somewhat less than positive towards the
Catholic Church's approach here. I just wonder how, when this is
scientifically-provable nonsense, the Cardinal and his ilk justify to
their consciences standing in the way of the only really effective
method of slowing the Afrian AIDS epidemic? Or maybe they don't care
to examine the actual evidence, and thus can adopt an
internally-convincing doublethink...
I donlt know, but it is nice to see some dissent form the prevailing
pope view. I think , IIRC, they had some sort of justification, but
whther it was just that condoms are often used incorrectly and are
inneficient that way, or something genuine, I don't know
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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| Title: Re: Interesting scientific position from the Vatican |
07 Apr 2005 02:33:51 PM |
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wrote:
The tone is, as you can see, somewhat less than positive towards the
Catholic Church's approach here. I just wonder how, when this is
scientifically-provable nonsense, the Cardinal and his ilk justify to
their consciences standing in the way of the only really effective
method of slowing the Afrian AIDS epidemic? Or maybe they don't care
to examine the actual evidence, and thus can adopt an
internally-convincing doublethink...
condoms can be used for (evil) contraception, so they'll say whatever
it takes to get folks to not use them.
fuckheads.
--
Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum!
http://www.selectric.org
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