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"Clayton: Master Of Scrotum Origami" |
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04 Jul 2005 05:52:50 PM |
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Interesting Vox Pop With Former Nun |
One of the best, most intelligent shows on Austrlian TV is "Enough Rope With
Andrew Denton". Not only does he have facinating interviews with
celebrities and politicians, he also interviews members of the public about
events that have changed their lives in his "Show and Tell" segment.
Recently while in L.A. interviewing Steven Spielberg, he approached a couple
of middle aged women, one of whom turned out to be a former nun with some
interesting things to say about her former occupation. My personal opinion
is these two women might have shared more than just friendship..."friends of
Dorothy" so to speak....so it's glad to see that maybe love took her from a
sick religious relationship into a healthy loving one.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/transcripts/s1385199.htm
ANDREW DENTON: Excuse me. Hello. My name is Andrew, I'm from Australian
television. What's your name?
CATHERINE: Catherine.
ANDREW DENTON: Catherine, where are you from?
CATHERINE: New Zealand.
ANDREW DENTON: New Zealand, there you go. And your name is?
LORRAINE: Lorraine from New Zealand.
ANDREW DENTON: Lorraine from New Zealand, how are you? Good to meet you. The
day in your life you will never forget?
CATHERINE: Yesterday.
LORRAINE: Yesterday.
ANDREW DENTON: What happened yesterday?
CATHERINE: Yesterday I turned 60 and my friend here brought me to Disneyland
especially for it.
ANDREW DENTON: Really?
LORRAINE: We had been planning it for 15 years.
ANDREW DENTON: Is that right?
CATHERINE: Yes.
ANDREW DENTON: And you have known about this plan for 15 years or was that a
surprise?
CATHERINE: No, it has been a dream. I didn't believe it until last week.
ANDREW DENTON: That is absolutely fantastic. So 15 years ago?
LORRAINE: She was a religious sister in a convent and had never got out of
it for 30 years, so I decided that when she was 60 we would come to
Disneyland, the absolute opposite of a convent.
ANDREW DENTON: What a fantastic thing. May we just talk about the convent.
You were a nun, were you?
CATHERINE: Yes, for 30 years.
ANDREW DENTON: For 30 years. When did you leave the convent?
CATHERINE: About 10 years ago.
ANDREW DENTON: That means you were 20 when you entered the...
CATHERINE: 18.
ANDREW DENTON: Very young when you entered. What was the order?
CATHERINE: Marist Order.
ANDREW DENTON: Why did you choose to enter that life?
CATHERINE: I was a member of a big family, Irish parents. Went to a Catholic
boarding school run by these Marist Sisters. Liked what they were about. I
guess in some ways you are sort of conditioned into it because of your
background.
ANDREW DENTON: What does it mean to be a bride of Christ?
CATHERINE: Nothing much anymore.
ANDREW DENTON: We will get to that in a minute, but in those years when you
were in the convent what does it actually mean?
CATHERINE: You take views. In those days I was a teacher, so I guess I
didn't concentrate on the bride of Christ. But I would be a teacher of small
children.
ANDREW DENTON: And you lived in the convent?
CATHERINE: Yes.
ANDREW DENTON: What is it like living in a convent with a group of other
nuns? What is the life like?
CATHERINE: It was very happy.
ANDREW DENTON: Yes?
CATHERINE: Yes. But after a while I decided it wasn't for me.
ANDREW DENTON: Why is that?
CATHERINE: There were no young members, so I thought that I was going to be
one of the youngest for about the next 30 years.
LORRAINE: And the obedience thing was difficult.
CATHERINE: Yes, and always having to do what somebody else wanted you to do.
You couldn't choose what you do in your day or your life really.
ANDREW DENTON: At any time?
CATHERINE: Well, small little choices, but nothing exciting like choosing
good things in life really.
LORRAINE: She wasn't allowed a telephone, for example. I thought that was
terrible. Didn't have a phone of her own.
ANDREW DENTON: Is that right?
LORRAINE: She had to ask permission to go out.
ANDREW DENTON: Even as a grown adult in your 40s and 50s you had to ask
permission to go out?
CATHERINE: Yes.
ANDREW DENTON: How did you come to know each other?
LORRAINE: I was on the school board of trustees and she was the principal.
So we met.
ANDREW DENTON: But you obviously became close friends?
LORRAINE: We did, yes.
ANDREW DENTON: What was the attraction?
LORRAINE: Don't know. We just liked each other.
ANDREW DENTON: Tell me about the day that you were sprung from the convent.
Was it like Thelma and Louise?
CATHERINE: I suppose so. It was really hard.
LORRAINE: Hard for her to come out.
CATHERINE: I found it really difficult to leave.
LORRAINE: It was like dragging her out.
CATHERINE: It was really difficult to make the change, because it is like a
cult.
ANDREW DENTON: What did you do to help her?
LORRAINE: I just talked to her a lot. I'm a counsellor, so I talked to her a
lot about what she actually wanted.
CATHERINE: And also part of getting out was you had to present a case for
getting out and it had to go to Rome and the Pope signed it or - not himself
personally or one of his people signed the release to say you were released
from it. I remember that day extremely well when I got that letter back in
New Zealand and it was a bright sunny day. I jumped for joy and I felt a
freedom that I never knew, the day I got that letter.
ANDREW DENTON: What an extraordinary thing. One last question - yesterday at
Disneyland, the symbol of your new life, how was it?
CATHERINE: It was magic. It was just magic. Disneyland is a fabulous place.
ANDREW DENTON: You are very lucky to have each other. Thank you very much
for talking to us.
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Clayton The Lord Of The Eternally Changing Name
AA# 1861
EAC Executive Officer In Charge Of Squandering And Wasting Valuable
Resources
"Religion is like horse laxative....if you swallow it, you'll be left
feeling empty and have a huge pile of ***** to deal with!" - Clayton
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| User: "Pat Kiewicz" |
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| Title: Re: Interesting Vox Pop With Former Nun |
06 Jul 2005 08:00:54 AM |
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Clayton: Master Of Scrotum Origami said:
I hope this nym doesn't last too long--sounds painful.
Anyway, this bit reminds me of my younger brother's lament, in that
he didn't have another, even younger brother of his own to boss around:
CATHERINE: There were no young members, so I thought that I was
going to be one of the youngest for about the next 30 years.
LORRAINE: And the obedience thing was difficult.
CATHERINE: Yes, and always having to do what somebody else wanted
you to do.
--
Pat K. aa#1154 ('someplace.net' is comcast)
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)
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