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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "loose cannon"
Date: 16 Jun 2005 12:27:35 AM
Object: Internationalize Jerusalem
The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem. Despite
the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden to no
one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could arrange
security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide by the
UN's decision.
.

User: "El Bleacho"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 02:18:37 PM
Susan Cohen wrote:

"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message

The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem.


And yet again, a Jew-hater exposes himself.
Not once did any of these bigots say a word about "internationalizing
Jerusalem" until it became obvious that it was permanently in JEWISH
hands.

Have him call us when they internationalize Washington DC. I think once
they give it to al-Qaida; he will shut the ***** up about Jerusalem.
--
_____________________
I am hung like Einstein;
and as smart as a horse!
.

User: "Adam Helberg"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 01:19:29 AM
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem. Despite
the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world

why is that?

to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden to no
one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could arrange
security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide by the
UN's decision.

The Arabs already rejected an international Jerusalem in 1947.
Adam
.

User: "JokingYou"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 09:34:15 AM
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1118899654.984675.82140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem. Despite
the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden to no
one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could arrange
security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide by the
UN's decision.

However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no good
will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their goal
of destroying Israel.


.
User: "cindys"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 09:49:59 AM
"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem. Despite
the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden to no
one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could arrange
security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide by the
UN's decision.


However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no good
will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their

goal

of destroying Israel.

-----------
They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of the
so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat, however,
was a full-blooded Egyptian.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
.
User: "Mickey"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 09:59:00 AM
"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem.

Despite

the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden to

no

one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could

arrange

security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide by

the

UN's decision.


However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no good
will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their

goal

of destroying Israel.

-----------
They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of

the

so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,

however,

was a full-blooded Egyptian.

As were his grandparents and his parents. What claim to land in Israel he
had remains a mystery. Then again, he also tried to overthrow the King of
Jordan, and the leaders of Yemen during his stays there.
Mickey
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 12:45:48 PM

However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no good
will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their
goal of destroying Israel.

"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:rkgse.13615$g5.3573@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of
the so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however, was a full-blooded Egyptian.

Mickey wrote:

As were his grandparents and his parents. What claim to land in Israel he
had remains a mystery.

The family of the wife of Terrorfat's mother's brother, a flunky and
go-fer for the Nazi mufti, owned a house in Jerusalem. When Terrorfat's
mother died, his father, who disliked him, sent him to live with his
uncle in Jerusalem for a year and a half. That's his claim to land in
Israel.

Then again, he also tried to overthrow the King of
Jordan, and the leaders of Yemen during his stays there.
Mickey

I think you mean Kuwait rather than Yemen. And aren't you leaving out
Terrorfat's murderous antics in Lebanon, after Hussein's troops drove
him and the PLO out of Jordan, following their failed attempt to
overthrow Hussein's government?
Deborah
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 12:45:39 PM

However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no good
will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their
goal of destroying Israel.

"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:rkgse.13615$g5.3573@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of
the so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however, was a full-blooded Egyptian.

Mickey wrote:

As were his grandparents and his parents. What claim to land in Israel he
had remains a mystery.

The family of the wife of Terrorfat's mother's brother, a flunky and
go-fer for the Nazi mufti, owned a house in Jerusalem. When Terrorfat's
mother died, his father, who disliked him, sent him to live with his
uncle in Jerusalem for a year and a half. That's his claim to land in
Israel.

Then again, he also tried to overthrow the King of
Jordan, and the leaders of Yemen during his stays there.
Mickey

I think you mean Kuwait rather than Yemen. And aren't you leaving out
Terrorfat's murderous antics in Lebanon, after Hussein's troops drove
him and the PLO out of Jordan, following their failed attempt to
overthrown Hussein's government?
Deborah
.
User: "Mickey"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 01:09:34 PM
<dsharavii@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1118943939.127912.59210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no

good

will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their
goal of destroying Israel.


"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:rkgse.13615$g5.3573@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of
the so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however, was a full-blooded Egyptian.


Mickey wrote:

As were his grandparents and his parents. What claim to land in Israel he
had remains a mystery.


The family of the wife of Terrorfat's mother's brother, a flunky and
go-fer for the Nazi mufti, owned a house in Jerusalem. When Terrorfat's
mother died, his father, who disliked him, sent him to live with his
uncle in Jerusalem for a year and a half. That's his claim to land in
Israel.

And this makes him a "palestinian"? No wonder these people are so bent.


Then again, he also tried to overthrow the King of
Jordan, and the leaders of Yemen during his stays there.
Mickey


I think you mean Kuwait rather than Yemen.

Yes, thanks.

And aren't you leaving out
Terrorfat's murderous antics in Lebanon, after Hussein's troops drove
him and the PLO out of Jordan, following their failed attempt to
overthrown Hussein's government?

Oh yes, and his time in Tunis also. Seems no one wanted him.
Mickey
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 01:48:33 PM

However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no

good

will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their
goal of destroying Israel.

"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com>wrote in message
news:rkgse.13615$g5.3573@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of
the so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however, was a full-blooded Egyptian.

Mickey wrote:

As were his grandparents and his parents. What claim to land in Israel he
had remains a mystery.

The family of the wife of Terrorfat's mother's brother, a flunky and
go-fer for the Nazi mufti, owned a house in Jerusalem. When Terrorfat's
mother died, his father, who disliked him, sent him to live with his
uncle in Jerusalem for a year and a half. That's his claim to land in
Israel.

Mickey wrote:

And this makes him a "palestinian"? No wonder these people are so bent.

Yup. In fact, the three most famous "palestinians" of the 20thC
were all Egyptian.

Then again, he also tried to overthrow the King of
Jordan, and the leaders of Yemen during his stays there.
Mickey

I think you mean Kuwait rather than Yemen.

Yes, thanks.

It was during the first Gulf War; all the Pallies living in Kuwait
decided they were in favor of Saddam and his invasion. Naturally, this
upset the Kuwaitis, who expelled them, except for the ones they
imprisoned and tortured. Funny how no ones gives a damn about tortured
Arabs, when Jews aren't involved.

And aren't you leaving out
Terrorfat's murderous antics in Lebanon, after Hussein's troops drove
him and the PLO out of Jordan, following their failed attempt to
overthrown Hussein's government?

Oh yes, and his time in Tunis also. Seems no one wanted him.
Mickey

Suha did. She wanted his giagantic bank account, anyway.
Deborah
.
User: "Mickey"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 02:10:40 PM
<dsharavii@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1118947713.554630.239280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no

good

will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their
goal of destroying Israel.


"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com>wrote in message
news:rkgse.13615$g5.3573@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most

of

the so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however, was a full-blooded Egyptian.


Mickey wrote:

As were his grandparents and his parents. What claim to land in Israel

he

had remains a mystery.


The family of the wife of Terrorfat's mother's brother, a flunky and
go-fer for the Nazi mufti, owned a house in Jerusalem. When Terrorfat's
mother died, his father, who disliked him, sent him to live with his
uncle in Jerusalem for a year and a half. That's his claim to land in
Israel.


Mickey wrote:

And this makes him a "palestinian"? No wonder these people are so bent.


Yup. In fact, the three most famous "palestinians" of the 20thC
were all Egyptian.

Then again, he also tried to overthrow the King of
Jordan, and the leaders of Yemen during his stays there.
Mickey


I think you mean Kuwait rather than Yemen.


Yes, thanks.


It was during the first Gulf War; all the Pallies living in Kuwait
decided they were in favor of Saddam and his invasion. Naturally, this
upset the Kuwaitis, who expelled them, except for the ones they
imprisoned and tortured. Funny how no ones gives a damn about tortured
Arabs, when Jews aren't involved.

And aren't you leaving out
Terrorfat's murderous antics in Lebanon, after Hussein's troops drove
him and the PLO out of Jordan, following their failed attempt to
overthrown Hussein's government?


Oh yes, and his time in Tunis also. Seems no one wanted him.
Mickey


Suha did. She wanted his giagantic bank account, anyway.

Amazing what you can steal if you kep your constituency ignorant. This seems
to work everywhere in the Arab world.
Mickey
.





User: "Faris Jawad"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 10:08:22 AM
"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem. Despite
the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden to no
one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could arrange
security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide by the
UN's decision.


However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no good
will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their

goal

of destroying Israel.

-----------
They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of
the
so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however,
was a full-blooded Egyptian.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.

The common term used by "Israelis" to describe the Palestinian minority is
""Israeli"Arabs". This is one manner of denying the existence of a
Palestinian national contingent.
The Palestinian Arabs within "Israel" made up the majority of inhabitants of
Palestine before to 1948. As a result of the invasion of 1948 and the
occupation of Palestine which result in the establishment of "Israel", 84%
of the Palestinian population were exiled and became refugees. Those
Palestinians who remained found that they had become a minority virtually
overnight in
what had become a Jewish state. Of a pre-1948 Palestinian population of
950,000, two categories of Palestinian refugees were created:
800,000 Palestinians were expelled from the country and forced to become
refugees in the Arab states.
150,000 Palestinians remained within the boundaries of
" Israel". Approximately 25% of those who remained within "Israel" were
displaced from their homes to other locations thus becoming internal
refugees.
.
User: "Mickey"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 10:27:22 AM
"Faris Jawad" <ana_faris_bila_jawad@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem.

Despite

the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden to

no

one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could

arrange

security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide by

the

UN's decision.


However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no

good

will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their

goal

of destroying Israel.

-----------
They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of
the
so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however,
was a full-blooded Egyptian.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


The common term used by "Israelis" to describe the Palestinian minority is
""Israeli"Arabs". This is one manner of denying the existence of a
Palestinian national contingent.

The Palestinian Arabs within "Israel" made up the majority of inhabitants

of

Palestine before to 1948.

A: There is no such thing as a "palestinian, and never has been"
B: The Arabs that were there were squatting on Israeli land.

As a result of the invasion of 1948 and the
occupation of Palestine which result in the establishment of "Israel", 84%
of the Palestinian population were exiled and became refugees.

Just can't get a word of truth out, can you? They left of their OWN accord,
when the leaders of the Arab nations told them to as they intending to
slaughter every Jew in Israel. As always, the Arabs can't do anything other
than kill each other, failed miserably, and have spent the last 57 years
crying.

Those Palestinians who remained found that they had become a minority

virtually

overnight in what had become a Jewish state.

It was ALWAYS our home, and the fact that Arabs ran in while we were on
walkabout didn't make it theirs.

Of a pre-1948 Palestinian population of
950,000, two categories of Palestinian refugees were created:

Terrorists and terrorist supporters?


800,000 Palestinians were expelled from the country and forced to become
refugees in the Arab states.

Again, they weren't expelled, they left on their own. Learn a little history
and you won't make a COMPLETE ***** of yourself at every opportunity.


150,000 Palestinians remained within the boundaries of
" Israel". Approximately 25% of those who remained within "Israel" were
displaced from their homes to other locations thus becoming internal
refugees.

More *****. You just cannot STAND the fact that the Jews have kicked the
Arabs asses 4 times in 4 wars, it just eats you up inside. I guess in this
case, every silver lining has a platinum lining.
Mickey
.
User: "Mujahid"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 11:20:02 AM
Mickey wrote:

"Faris Jawad" <ana_faris_bila_jawad@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem.

Despite

the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden to

no

one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could

arrange

security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide by

the

UN's decision.


However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no

good

will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their

goal

of destroying Israel.

-----------
They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of
the
so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however,
was a full-blooded Egyptian.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


The common term used by "Israelis" to describe the Palestinian minority is
""Israeli"Arabs". This is one manner of denying the existence of a
Palestinian national contingent.

The Palestinian Arabs within "Israel" made up the majority of inhabitants

of

Palestine before to 1948.


A: There is no such thing as a "palestinian, and never has been"
B: The Arabs that were there were squatting on Israeli land.

Israel an aggressive, illegal, and illegitimate entity, which has no
future in our land. Its destiny is manifested in our motto: 'Death to
Israel.'"

As a result of the invasion of 1948 and the
occupation of Palestine which result in the establishment of "Israel", 84%
of the Palestinian population were exiled and became refugees.

.
User: "cindys"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 11:30:17 AM
"Mujahid" <alfalastinee@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Israel an aggressive, illegal, and illegitimate entity, which has no
future in our land. Its destiny is manifested in our motto: 'Death to
Israel.'"

----------
I rest my case. Thank you for proving my point.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
.

User: "Mickey"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 11:30:16 AM
"Mujahid" <alfalastinee@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Mickey wrote:

"Faris Jawad" <ana_faris_bila_jawad@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1118899654.984675.82140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem.

Despite

the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the

final

status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of

the

world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN

should

immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden

to

no

one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could

arrange

security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide

by

the

UN's decision.


However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no

good

will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further

their

goal

of destroying Israel.

-----------
They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel.

Most of

the
so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however,
was a full-blooded Egyptian.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


The common term used by "Israelis" to describe the Palestinian

minority is

""Israeli"Arabs". This is one manner of denying the existence of a
Palestinian national contingent.

The Palestinian Arabs within "Israel" made up the majority of

inhabitants

of

Palestine before to 1948.


A: There is no such thing as a "palestinian, and never has been"
B: The Arabs that were there were squatting on Israeli land.


Translation time:

Israel an aggressive,

She defends herself

illegal,

We don't like it

and illegitimate entity,

We REALLY don't like it

which has no future in our land.

And it REALLY pisses us off

Its destiny is manifested in our motto: 'Death to Israel.'"

Damn, they kick our asses every time, no matter how many nations we amass to
attack them. I better keep making loud noises so that other won't realize
JUST how inept we are.
/end translation
Mickey
.

User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 06:05:27 PM
"Mujahid" <alfalastinee@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Israel an aggressive, illegal, and illegitimate entity,

Wow, a truiple lie - that's impressive.
which has no

future in our land. Its destiny is manifested in our motto: 'Death to
Israel.'"

Thanks for this bit of honesty, tho'
Susan
.

User: "JokingYou"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 11:33:44 AM
"Mujahid" <alfalastinee@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Mickey wrote:

"Faris Jawad" <ana_faris_bila_jawad@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem.

Despite

the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden
to

no

one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could

arrange

security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide
by

the

UN's decision.


However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no

good

will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further
their

goal

of destroying Israel.

-----------
They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most
of
the
so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however,
was a full-blooded Egyptian.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


The common term used by "Israelis" to describe the Palestinian minority
is
""Israeli"Arabs". This is one manner of denying the existence of a
Palestinian national contingent.

The Palestinian Arabs within "Israel" made up the majority of
inhabitants

of

Palestine before to 1948.


A: There is no such thing as a "palestinian, and never has been"
B: The Arabs that were there were squatting on Israeli land.


Israel an aggressive, illegal, and illegitimate entity, which has no
future in our land. Its destiny is manifested in our motto: 'Death to
Israel.'"

Israel is more than legitimate as it is sanctioned by the UN. Also, Israel
has never committedd agression towards its neighbors nor any other country
in the world but has been attacked on numerous occassions by multi-country
coaliitons.

As a result of the invasion of 1948 and the
occupation of Palestine which result in the establishment of "Israel",
84%
of the Palestinian population were exiled and became refugees.


.

User: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 12:14:14 PM
Listen Falafel for Brains, you seem to be really good at making up stuff
and revising history, maybe you should join the NAZI PARTY.
Until you can post actual proof to back up your non-sense, *****.
"Mujahid" <alfalastinee@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1118938802.488620.22080@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
: Mickey wrote:
: > "Faris Jawad" <ana_faris_bila_jawad@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:OBgse.6453$Qr3.1013851@news20.bellglobal.com...
: > > "cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
: > > news:rkgse.13615$g5.3573@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
: > > >
: > > > "JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
: > > > news:H5gse.2634$NU5.853@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
: > > >>
: > > >> "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
: > > >> news:1118899654.984675.82140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
: > > >> > The time has come to once again address the issue of
Jerusalem.
: > Despite
: > > >> > the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the
final
: > > >> > status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples
of the
: > > >> > world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN
should
: > > >> > immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones
best
: > > >> > interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized,
beholden to
: > no
: > > >> > one nation or people. The members of the Security Council
could
: > arrange
: > > >> > security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to
abide by
: > the
: > > >> > UN's decision.
: > > >>
: > > >> However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have
displayed no
: > good
: > > >> will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to
further their
: > > > goal
: > > >> of destroying Israel.
: > > > -----------
: > > > They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel.
Most of
: > > > the
: > > > so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir
Arafat,
: > > > however,
: > > > was a full-blooded Egyptian.
: > > > Best regards,
: > > > ---Cindy S.
: > > >
: > >
: > > The common term used by "Israelis" to describe the Palestinian
minority is
: > > ""Israeli"Arabs". This is one manner of denying the existence of a
: > > Palestinian national contingent.
: > >
: > > The Palestinian Arabs within "Israel" made up the majority of
inhabitants
: > of
: > > Palestine before to 1948.
: >
: > A: There is no such thing as a "palestinian, and never has been"
: > B: The Arabs that were there were squatting on Israeli land.
:
: Israel an aggressive, illegal, and illegitimate entity, which has no
: future in our land. Its destiny is manifested in our motto: 'Death to
: Israel.'"
:
: > > As a result of the invasion of 1948 and the
: > > occupation of Palestine which result in the establishment of
"Israel", 84%
: > > of the Palestinian population were exiled and became refugees.
:
.



User: "cindys"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 10:26:51 AM
"Faris Jawad" <ana_faris_bila_jawad@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem.

Despite

the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden to

no

one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could

arrange

security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide by

the

UN's decision.


However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no

good

will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their

goal

of destroying Israel.

-----------
They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of
the
so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however,
was a full-blooded Egyptian.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


The common term used by "Israelis" to describe the Palestinian minority is
""Israeli"Arabs". This is one manner of denying the existence of a
Palestinian national contingent.

Yes, because they are Arabs with full Israeli citizenship who live in the
State of Israel. They deny a "Palestinian national contingent" because there
were no "Palestinians" until the mid 1960s. Unless of course you are
referring to the Jews who inhabited the land before Israel became a nation
in 1948. Before 1948, the Jews were called "Palestinians."
From http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28222
---Begin quote---
Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview
with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir
Muhsein. Here's what he said:
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state
is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for
our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians,
Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons
do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab
national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct
"Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
---end quote---
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


The Palestinian Arabs within "Israel" made up the majority of inhabitants

of

Palestine before to 1948. As a result of the invasion of 1948 and the
occupation of Palestine which result in the establishment of "Israel", 84%
of the Palestinian population were exiled and became refugees. Those
Palestinians who remained found that they had become a minority virtually
overnight in
what had become a Jewish state. Of a pre-1948 Palestinian population of
950,000, two categories of Palestinian refugees were created:

800,000 Palestinians were expelled from the country and forced to become
refugees in the Arab states.

150,000 Palestinians remained within the boundaries of
" Israel". Approximately 25% of those who remained within "Israel" were
displaced from their homes to other locations thus becoming internal
refugees.






.

User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 06:04:06 PM
"Faris Jawad" <ana_faris_bila_jawad@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1118899654.984675.82140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem.
Despite
the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the final
status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of the
world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN should
immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden to
no
one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could
arrange
security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide by
the
UN's decision.


However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no good
will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further their

goal

of destroying Israel.

-----------
They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel. Most of
the
so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
however,
was a full-blooded Egyptian.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


The common term used by "Israelis" to describe the Palestinian minority is
""Israeli"Arabs".

Untrue.
That term is reserved for Arabs who are Israelis.
This is one manner of denying the existence of a

Palestinian national contingent.

It only makes sense to deny something that doesn;t exist.


The Palestinian Arabs within "Israel" made up the majority of inhabitants
of Palestine before to 1948.

Too bad for them that they made up none of the government - then again, you
can't have a government where there's no country. That's why the British
were adminstering the area.

As a result of the invasion of 1948

by the neighboring Arabs after they all rejected the partition plan

and the occupation of Palestine

A lie

which result in the establishment of "Israel",

No quotes needed, & a nonexistent occupation could not have resulted in
*anything*.

84%
of the Palestinian population were exiled and became refugees.

A lie.
60% left of their own accord & 40% stayed.

Those Palestinians who remained found that they had become a minority
virtually overnight in
what had become a Jewish state.

Which would only bother people who hate Jews.
At any rate, it was their own fault.
Of a pre-1948 Palestinian population of

950,000, two categories of Palestinian refugees were created:

800,000 Palestinians were expelled from the country

A lie.

and forced to become refugees in the Arab states.

150,000 Palestinians remained within the boundaries of
" Israel". Approximately 25% of those who remained within "Israel" were
displaced from their homes to other locations thus becoming internal
refugees.

Interesting how these people are the only ones in the world to have 2
made-up designations just for them: "Palestinian" and "generational
refugees".
Susan
.

User: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 12:11:36 PM
Wrong you idiot.
Israeli-Arabs are the Arabs who are Israeli citizens and CHOOSE to live
within the State of Israel.
They are not the same as "Palestinian-Arabs" who CHOSE to leave their
land hoping that their fellow Arabs would destroy Israel and all Jews!
"Faris Jawad" <ana_faris_bila_jawad@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OBgse.6453$Qr3.1013851@news20.bellglobal.com...
: "cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
: news:rkgse.13615$g5.3573@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
: >
: > "JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
: > news:H5gse.2634$NU5.853@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
: >>
: >> "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
: >> news:1118899654.984675.82140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
: >> > The time has come to once again address the issue of Jerusalem.
Despite
: >> > the current goodwill amongst Israeli's and Palestinians, the
final
: >> > status of Jerusalem is far too important to all the peoples of
the
: >> > world to allow only these two entities to determine. The UN
should
: >> > immediately convene and debate whether it is in everyones best
: >> > interests for this holiest of cities to be nationalized, beholden
to no
: >> > one nation or people. The members of the Security Council could
arrange
: >> > security concerns and deal with any nation that refuses to abide
by the
: >> > UN's decision.
: >>
: >> However, the Palestinians or rather Israeli-Arabs have displayed no
good
: >> will. Israeli-Arabs are only using the peace process to further
their
: > goal
: >> of destroying Israel.
: > -----------
: > They're not Israeli Arabs. The Israeli Arabs all live in Israel.
Most of
: > the
: > so-called "Palestinians" (sic) are Jordanian Arabs. Yassir Arafat,
: > however,
: > was a full-blooded Egyptian.
: > Best regards,
: > ---Cindy S.
: >
:
: The common term used by "Israelis" to describe the Palestinian
minority is
: ""Israeli"Arabs". This is one manner of denying the existence of a
: Palestinian national contingent.
:
: The Palestinian Arabs within "Israel" made up the majority of
inhabitants of
: Palestine before to 1948. As a result of the invasion of 1948 and the
: occupation of Palestine which result in the establishment of "Israel",
84%
: of the Palestinian population were exiled and became refugees. Those
: Palestinians who remained found that they had become a minority
virtually
: overnight in
: what had become a Jewish state. Of a pre-1948 Palestinian population
of
: 950,000, two categories of Palestinian refugees were created:
:
: 800,000 Palestinians were expelled from the country and forced to
become
: refugees in the Arab states.
:
: 150,000 Palestinians remained within the boundaries of
: " Israel". Approximately 25% of those who remained within "Israel"
were
: displaced from their homes to other locations thus becoming internal
: refugees.
:
:
:
:
:
:
.
User: "cindys"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 12:32:01 PM
"ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:qhise.102522$8S5.86617@bignews3.bellsouth.net...

Wrong you idiot.

Israeli-Arabs are the Arabs who are Israeli citizens and CHOOSE to live
within the State of Israel.

They are not the same as "Palestinian-Arabs" who CHOSE to leave their
land hoping that their fellow Arabs would destroy Israel and all Jews!

-------
Truth be told, the Israeli-Arabs are not such great supporters of Israel
either, and the majority of them would be really pleased to see Israel
destroyed (despite the fact that they are living in a 1st world country
which their Arab brethren would turn into a 3rd world country in a matter of
months).
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
.
User: "Adam Helberg"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 12:43:57 PM
"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:lIise.77374$HT1.34079@twister.nyroc.rr.com...


"ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:qhise.102522$8S5.86617@bignews3.bellsouth.net...

Wrong you idiot.

Israeli-Arabs are the Arabs who are Israeli citizens and CHOOSE to live
within the State of Israel.

They are not the same as "Palestinian-Arabs" who CHOSE to leave their
land hoping that their fellow Arabs would destroy Israel and all Jews!

-------
Truth be told, the Israeli-Arabs are not such great supporters of Israel
either, and the majority of them would be really pleased to see Israel
destroyed (despite the fact that they are living in a 1st world country
which their Arab brethren would turn into a 3rd world country in a matter of
months).
Best regards,
---Cindy S.

When you takes American citizenship you have to pledge allegiance to the country and
pledge to defend it. The same should be required of Israeli citizens. Those who
cannot swear allegiance should be stripped of their citizenship. That would get the
Arab MKs out.
Adam
.
User: "JokingYou"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 01:46:04 PM
Swearing allegiance does not mean one will respect one's pledge.
"Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote in message
news:xTise.4943$hK3.867@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...


"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:qhise.102522$8S5.86617@bignews3.bellsouth.net...

Wrong you idiot.

Israeli-Arabs are the Arabs who are Israeli citizens and CHOOSE to live
within the State of Israel.

They are not the same as "Palestinian-Arabs" who CHOSE to leave their
land hoping that their fellow Arabs would destroy Israel and all Jews!

-------
Truth be told, the Israeli-Arabs are not such great supporters of Israel
either, and the majority of them would be really pleased to see Israel
destroyed (despite the fact that they are living in a 1st world country
which their Arab brethren would turn into a 3rd world country in a matter
of
months).
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


When you takes American citizenship you have to pledge allegiance to the
country and pledge to defend it. The same should be required of Israeli
citizens. Those who cannot swear allegiance should be stripped of their
citizenship. That would get the Arab MKs out.

Adam

.
User: "Mickey"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 02:10:57 PM
"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:MNjse.3012$Pa5.2566@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...

Swearing allegiance does not mean one will respect one's pledge.

It does to some.
Mickey


"Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote in message
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"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:qhise.102522$8S5.86617@bignews3.bellsouth.net...

Wrong you idiot.

Israeli-Arabs are the Arabs who are Israeli citizens and CHOOSE to

live

within the State of Israel.

They are not the same as "Palestinian-Arabs" who CHOSE to leave their
land hoping that their fellow Arabs would destroy Israel and all Jews!

-------
Truth be told, the Israeli-Arabs are not such great supporters of

Israel

either, and the majority of them would be really pleased to see Israel
destroyed (despite the fact that they are living in a 1st world country
which their Arab brethren would turn into a 3rd world country in a

matter

of
months).
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


When you takes American citizenship you have to pledge allegiance to the
country and pledge to defend it. The same should be required of Israeli
citizens. Those who cannot swear allegiance should be stripped of their
citizenship. That would get the Arab MKs out.

Adam



.
User: "JokingYou"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 02:30:07 PM
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:MNjse.3012$Pa5.2566@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...

Swearing allegiance does not mean one will respect one's pledge.


It does to some.

It's the ones who aren't part of the "some" that I am referring to.

Mickey


"Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote in message
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"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:qhise.102522$8S5.86617@bignews3.bellsouth.net...

Wrong you idiot.

Israeli-Arabs are the Arabs who are Israeli citizens and CHOOSE to

live

within the State of Israel.

They are not the same as "Palestinian-Arabs" who CHOSE to leave their
land hoping that their fellow Arabs would destroy Israel and all
Jews!

-------
Truth be told, the Israeli-Arabs are not such great supporters of

Israel

either, and the majority of them would be really pleased to see Israel
destroyed (despite the fact that they are living in a 1st world
country
which their Arab brethren would turn into a 3rd world country in a

matter

of
months).
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


When you takes American citizenship you have to pledge allegiance to
the
country and pledge to defend it. The same should be required of Israeli
citizens. Those who cannot swear allegiance should be stripped of their
citizenship. That would get the Arab MKs out.

Adam





.


User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 06:12:10 PM
"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:MNjse.3012$Pa5.2566@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...

Swearing allegiance does not mean one will respect one's pledge.

But it does extra legal basis forgetting rid of her enemies.
Notice how it's only Israel that needs an extra excuse.
Susan


"Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote in message
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"cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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"ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:qhise.102522$8S5.86617@bignews3.bellsouth.net...

Wrong you idiot.

Israeli-Arabs are the Arabs who are Israeli citizens and CHOOSE to live
within the State of Israel.

They are not the same as "Palestinian-Arabs" who CHOSE to leave their
land hoping that their fellow Arabs would destroy Israel and all Jews!

-------
Truth be told, the Israeli-Arabs are not such great supporters of Israel
either, and the majority of them would be really pleased to see Israel
destroyed (despite the fact that they are living in a 1st world country
which their Arab brethren would turn into a 3rd world country in a
matter of
months).
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


When you takes American citizenship you have to pledge allegiance to the
country and pledge to defend it. The same should be required of Israeli
citizens. Those who cannot swear allegiance should be stripped of their
citizenship. That would get the Arab MKs out.

Adam



.

User: "Adam Helberg"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 03:45:21 PM
"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:MNjse.3012$Pa5.2566@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...

Swearing allegiance does not mean one will respect one's pledge.

It's not foolproof but it helps.
Adam
.
User: "Mickey"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 04:03:37 PM
"Adam Helberg" <sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote in message
news:Bxlse.5270$jX6.3491@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...


"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:MNjse.3012$Pa5.2566@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...

Swearing allegiance does not mean one will respect one's pledge.


It's not foolproof but it helps.

Nothing is foolproof because fools are an inventive lot.
Mickey
.

User: "The +Revd"

Title: Re: Internationalize Jerusalem 16 Jun 2005 11:40:21 PM
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:45:21 GMT, "Adam Helberg"
<sendspamhere@yahee.com> wrote:


"JokingYou" <jeffile@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:MNjse.3012$Pa5.2566@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...

Swearing allegiance does not mean one will respect one's pledge.


It's not foolproof but it helps.

It doesn't help jews. Jews have divided loyalties.
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