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12 Nov 2004 01:35:08 AM |
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investigate the vote |
Six prominent members of Congress have requested an investigation into
the integrity of the vote. The decision could come as soon as Monday.
Sign our petition <http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote/> demanding
a full investigation into whether the election was conducted honestly or
not. Also, share your personal story if you have one -- members of
Congress will use it in their call for an investigation.
<http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote/>
Questions are swirling around whether the election was conducted
honestly or not. We need to know -- was it or wasn't it?
If people were wrongly prevented from voting, or if legitimate votes
were mis-counted or not counted at all, we need to know so the
wrongdoers can be held accountable, and so we can prevent this from
happening again.
Members of Congress are demanding an investigation to answer this
question. The decision on whether or not there will be an investigation
could come as soon as Monday. Join us in supporting the call for one
now, at:
http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote/
Then please invite your friends and colleagues to sign, as well. We
need to show Congress that hundreds of thousands of Americans are
serious about protecting the integrity of the vote.
We're all hearing the stories and wondering what's true and what isn't.
But at least two cases of serious problems are accepted beyond doubt:
In Broward County, Florida, electronic voting machines counted
backwards: as more people voted, the official vote count went down. [1]
In one Columbus, Ohio suburb, election officials have acknowledged that
electronic voting machines credited Bush with winning 4,258 votes, even
though only 638 people voted there. [2]
These are just cases where we know something went wrong. There were
also lots of reports of people being denied ballots on Election Day. So
far, these reports remain anecdotal, but they must be compiled and
examined. And the Internet is abuzz with theories about why the
official counts were so different from the exit polls.
Do you have a story? Were you prevented from voting? Tell us, at:
http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote/
Six prominent members of Congress have called for an investigation.
Representatives Conyers (D-MI), Holt (D-NJ), Nadler (D-NY), Scott
(D-VA), Watt (D-NC) and Wexler (D-FL), have demanded that the U.S.
General Accounting Office:
immediately undertake an investigation of the efficacy of voting
machines and
new technologies used in the 2004 election, how election officials
responded
to difficulties they encountered, and what we can do in the future to
improve
our election systems and administration. [3]
We've got to support their call by asking our own Representatives and
Senators to join them.
If you have a personal story of disenfranchisement, tell us. These
members of Congress have agreed to include our stories and comments in
their call for an investigation. Please sign now -- we'll deliver our
compiled statements to them on Friday.
Even if you don't have a personal story, your signature on our petition
will still help build support for an investigation.
To keep our faith in democracy, we need to know the facts. Your
signature, and your story if you have one, will help.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
--Carrie, Joan, Lee, Marika, Noah, Peter, Rosalyn, and Wes
The MoveOn.org Team
November 11th, 2004
Footnotes:
1. Broward Machines Count Backward, Palm Beach Post, November 5, 2004
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/news/epaper/2004/11/05/a29a_BROWVOTE_1105.html
2. Glitch Gave Bush Extra Votes in Ohio, AP carried on CNN, November 5, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/05/voting.problems.ap/
3. Letters from members of Congress to David Walker, Comptroller General
of the United States, demanding an investigation of the election:
November 5th, 2004 November 8th, 2004
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/gaoinvestvote2004ltr11804.pdf
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| User: "duke" |
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12 Nov 2004 05:05:54 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:35:08 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
Questions are swirling around whether the election was conducted
honestly or not. We need to know -- was it or wasn't it?
It was. It was watched very closely by the 'rats.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "X" |
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12 Nov 2004 07:12:17 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:35:08 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
Questions are swirling around whether the election was conducted
honestly or not. We need to know -- was it or wasn't it?
It was.
You expect me to take your word for it, puke?? You don't know your arese
from third base! You are part of the problem, not part of the solution,
bird brain.
It was watched very closely by the 'rats.
It is us Democrats who are calling for a congressional invesitigation,
moron. Can't you read?
Six prominent members of Congress have called for an investigation.
Representatives Conyers (D-MI), Holt (D-NJ), Nadler (D-NY), Scott
(D-VA), Watt (D-NC) and Wexler (D-FL), have demanded that the U.S.
General Accounting Office:
immediately undertake an investigation of the efficacy of voting
machines and
new technologies used in the 2004 election, how election officials
responded
to difficulties they encountered, and what we can do in the future to
improve
our election systems and administration. [3]
We've got to support their call by asking our own Representatives and
Senators to join them.
If you have a personal story of disenfranchisement, tell us. These
members of Congress have agreed to include our stories and comments in
their call for an investigation. Please sign now -- we'll deliver our
compiled statements to them on Friday.
Even if you don't have a personal story, your signature on our petition
will still help build support for an investigation.
Sign our petition <http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote/>
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: investigate the vote |
13 Nov 2004 06:39:29 AM |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:12:17 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
You expect me to take your word for it, puke?? You don't know your arese
from third base! You are part of the problem, not part of the solution,
bird brain.
It was watched very closely by the 'rats.
It is us Democrats who are calling for a congressional invesitigation,
moron. Can't you read?
Sure I can, and it was watched very closely by the 'rats.
Six prominent members of Congress have called for an investigation.
Representatives Conyers (D-MI), Holt (D-NJ), Nadler (D-NY), Scott
(D-VA), Watt (D-NC) and Wexler (D-FL), have demanded that the U.S.
General Accounting Office:
immediately undertake an investigation of the efficacy of voting
machines and
new technologies used in the 2004 election, how election officials
responded
to difficulties they encountered, and what we can do in the future to
improve
our election systems and administration. [3]
We've got to support their call by asking our own Representatives and
Senators to join them.
I used electronic voting machines, and my name was written down is two different places +
my signature before I entered the booth. Then another watcher must reset the machine
before another vote is entered. Three number counts must agree - two handwritten and the
machine must agree.
That aside, now you smut investigate the machine itself to check if it hadn't been rigged.
And there are election boards galore all over this country that do this.
Your concern is just more bellyaching.
If you have a personal story of disenfranchisement, tell us. These
members of Congress have agreed to include our stories and comments in
their call for an investigation. Please sign now -- we'll deliver our
compiled statements to them on Friday.
Even if you don't have a personal story, your signature on our petition
will still help build support for an investigation.
Sign our petition <http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote/>
MoveOn.org. the biggest 'rat money supporter for the 'rats. And you didn't like the
Swift Boat Vets.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: investigate the vote |
13 Nov 2004 09:19:59 AM |
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In alt.politics.usa duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
I used electronic voting machines, and my name was written down is
two different places + my signature before I entered the booth.
Then another watcher must reset the machine before another vote is
entered. Three number counts must agree - two handwritten and the
machine must agree.
And it would be trivial to make the software have all these counts
agree, and yet throw a non-trivial number of votes from one candidate
to another.
The only rational solution is to have a paper trail that can be
checked on a recount, and can be spot checked by random sampling in
all elections. This is what Nevada does, and they have a lot of
experience with people trying to "rig machines" for one reason or
another.
That aside, now you smut investigate the machine itself to check if
it hadn't been rigged. And there are election boards galore all
over this country that do this.
Election boards to NOT check the software in the machines. Surely you
don't think that they do, do you?
--
That's News To Me!
newstome@comcast.net
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| User: "duke" |
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13 Nov 2004 10:07:35 AM |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:19:59 GMT, wrote:
I used electronic voting machines, and my name was written down is
two different places + my signature before I entered the booth.
Then another watcher must reset the machine before another vote is
entered. Three number counts must agree - two handwritten and the
machine must agree.
And it would be trivial to make the software have all these counts
agree, and yet throw a non-trivial number of votes from one candidate
to another.
??? Are you sure you understood what you said? Three separate counts to agree at the
precinct level or an investigation is made.
The only rational solution is to have a paper trail that can be
checked on a recount, and can be spot checked by random sampling in
all elections.
I just told you. there are 2 paper trails to match the machine count.
This is what Nevada does, and they have a lot of
experience with people trying to "rig machines" for one reason or
another.
And the fourth line of defense stands up.
That aside, now you smut investigate the machine itself to check if
it hadn't been rigged. And there are election boards galore all
over this country that do this.
Election boards to NOT check the software in the machines. Surely you
don't think that they do, do you?
Ok, so now you're saying you don't trust those that certify the machines as ready to go.
It happened in Pennsylvania, and it was caught immediately.
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You 'rats and the boogie men in your closets is getting silly now.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Gene" |
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13 Nov 2004 06:53:54 AM |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:12:17 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:35:08 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
Questions are swirling around whether the election was conducted
honestly or not. We need to know -- was it or wasn't it?
It was.
You expect me to take your word for it, puke?? You don't know your arese
from third base! You are part of the problem, not part of the solution,
bird brain.
Arese? Hmmm..Seems someones lying here for sure. :)
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| User: "duke" |
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13 Nov 2004 10:03:17 AM |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:12:17 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
Questions are swirling around whether the election was conducted
honestly or not. We need to know -- was it or wasn't it?
It was.
You expect me to take your word for it, puke?? You don't know your arese
from third base! You are part of the problem, not part of the solution,
bird brain.
Why?
It was watched very closely by the 'rats.
It is us Democrats who are calling for a congressional invesitigation,
moron. Can't you read?
Then you don't trust and believe yourselves? Which I can understand, because I don't
trust you 'rats either
We've got to support their call by asking our own Representatives and
Senators to join them.
Them who - you the election watchers?
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Bob Harrington" |
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15 Nov 2004 07:07:21 AM |
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X wrote:
It is us Democrats who are calling for a congressional invesitigation.
Are you sure you're up to it? You guys are already so awfully busy -
what with all that whining, not getting over it, being losers and all...
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| User: "Gene" |
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12 Nov 2004 07:29:57 AM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:35:08 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
Six prominent members of Congress have requested an investigation into
the integrity of the liberals. The decision could come as soon as Monday.
Sign our petition <http://www.moveon.org/investigateliberals/> demanding
a full investigation into whether the liberals whined enough during the election
or not. Also, share your personal whine if you have one -- members of
Congress will use it in their call for a pepperoni pizza.
<http://www.moveon.org/investigateveggies/>
Questions are swirling around whether the liberals were lying as hard as they
reasonably could. We need to know -- were they or not?
If people were wrongly prevented from lying or if legitimate lies
were not heard, we need to know so the wrongdoers can be held accountable,
and so we can prevent this from happening again.
Members of Congress are demanding an investigation to answer this
question. The decision on whether or not there will be an investigation
could come as soon as Monday. Join us in supporting the call for one
now, at:
http://www.moveon.org/investigatelotsoflies/
Then please invite your friends and colleagues to sign, as well. We
need to show Congress that hundreds of thousands of Americans are
serious about protecting the integrity of the liberal lie.
We're all hearing the stories and wondering what's true and what isn't.
But at least two cases of serious lying problems are accepted beyond doubt:
In Broward County, Florida, electronic voting machines counted
money: as more people voted, the official vote count made $1,000,000!
In one Columbus, Ohio suburb, election officials have acknowledged that
electronic voting machines credited fourteen people with $31.27, even
though only $63.48 was in the bank account.
These are just cases where we know something went on, but danged if we can
find our asses with both hands! There were also lots of reports of people being
lied to by people not adept at lying! So far, these reports remain questionable, but
it doesn't matter! We'll use ANY lie to bolster our useless whining, bitching and moaning!
We've got to get together to compile them and make them as believable as possible,
but they must be compiled and examined for any words which make them unbelievable.
And the Internet is abuzz with theories about how to do this.
Do you have a lie? Bicth? or Moan?story? Were you prevented from lying? Tell us, at:
http://www.moveon.org/investigatemyunwashedshorts/
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| User: "X" |
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| Title: Re: investigate the vote |
12 Nov 2004 07:17:06 PM |
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Gene lied about what was written.
No big surprise there, eh?
<plonk>
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| User: "Gene" |
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13 Nov 2004 06:53:04 AM |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:17:06 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
Gene lied about what was written.
No big surprise there, eh?
<plonk>
Oh wow. I got plonked! I feel so GOOD!
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| User: "Bob Harrington" |
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| Title: Re: investigate the vote |
15 Nov 2004 07:01:23 AM |
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Gene wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:17:06 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
Gene lied about what was written.
No big surprise there, eh?
<plonk>
Oh wow. I got plonked! I feel so GOOD!
Hate to let you down, but X neither capitalized it or used an
exclamation mark - I... I think he's... lying to you. ={
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| User: "X" |
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15 Nov 2004 02:16:14 PM |
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Bob Harrington wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:17:06 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
Gene lied about what was written.
No big surprise there, eh?
<plonk>
Oh wow. I got plonked! I feel so GOOD!
Hate to let you down, but X neither capitalized it or used an
exclamation mark - I... I think he's... lying to you. ={
Neither ... nor. I ain't lyin'.
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| User: "Gene" |
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15 Nov 2004 08:20:05 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:16:14 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
Bob Harrington wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:17:06 GMT, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
Gene lied about what was written.
No big surprise there, eh?
<plonk>
Oh wow. I got plonked! I feel so GOOD!
Hate to let you down, but X neither capitalized it or used an
exclamation mark - I... I think he's... lying to you. ={
Neither ... nor. I ain't lyin'.
*****, you still want me :)
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