Religions > Atheism > Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks
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"Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey?" |
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Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
Don't believe those explosions, it's just that 'liberal media filter'.
http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7110976.htm
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Yang
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -344 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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27 Oct 2003 04:45:01 AM |
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"Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey?"
<eacmole@SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f9cb4f1.30029968@news.cox.net...
Don't believe those explosions, it's just that 'liberal media filter'.
http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7110976.htm
Hard to know which explosions are coming from which groups.
I'd guess that the attack on ICRC was Chalabi, although medical
organisations occasionally get attacked by people who have lost a close
relative and decide to blame the doctors.
The attack on Abu Gharib is easier - if you decide to use Saddam's systems
for oppression of the people, you can expect to be attacked by the same
groups that attacked these torture chambers under Saddam. Good for them.
The roadside bomb looks like ILP, although you've got to wonder what
explosive was used.
Alun Harford
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| User: "JTEM" |
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27 Oct 2003 01:32:40 PM |
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"Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey?"
Don't believe those explosions, it's just that 'liberal media filter'.
http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7110976.htm
I heard about the attacks last night/this morning, and turned on the tv.
Admittedly a little time had passed, but faux "news" didn't have so
much as a bleep on the subject. CNN found the time to repeat a "live
report" that somebody had done at the scene, all the while faux was
still repeating their regular Sunday evening line up. Not so much as
a word the attacks.
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| User: "Bob Dog" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
27 Oct 2003 06:56:28 AM |
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(Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey?) wrote in message news:<3f9cb4f1.30029968@news.cox.net>...
Don't believe those explosions, it's just that 'liberal media filter'.
http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7110976.htm
Hey, the US turned Iran into a democracy: they buggered
off after being kicked out and didn't interfere for 20
years while fundy muslims took over. Now that extremist
islam has run its course in Iran (and shown that it is
incapable of running a popular government), moderates
are taking over and creating a democracy.
Democratic governments aren't imposed, they are built
by the will of the people to overcome tyranny. The US
*is* the tyrant in Iraq. If Shrub *really* wanted Iraq
to become a democracy, he'd pull out instead of trying
to rape the country (an ingenious euphemism) and leave
Iraqis to their own devices.
Like it or not, the west will have to leave Iraq and let
the fundy muslims take over. The only way to destroy
islamic governments is to let muslims do it themselves.
Either they will become democracies or come hat in hand
asking for help.
When they want the west's presence, they will ask for it.
In the meantime, we should all ***** and leave Iraq
to the Iraqis.
Bob Dog
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| User: "JTEM" |
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27 Oct 2003 01:36:06 PM |
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"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote
Democratic governments aren't imposed, they are built
by the will of the people to overcome tyranny.
As an American, I'd say that it's important that we get a
"President" who actually received the most votes *Before*
we run around preaching democracy to others.
The election scams in Florida & elsewhere would also
have to be addressed.
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| User: "gaffo" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQOver Heavy Attacks |
27 Oct 2003 09:23:28 PM |
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Bob Dog wrote:
i read the rest.............and it is a decent post.
you need to read up on Iranian history though Bubba.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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27 Oct 2003 07:18:52 AM |
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On 27 Oct 2003 04:56:28 -0800, (Bob Dog) wrote:
eacmole@SPAMmail.com (Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey?) wrote in message news:<3f9cb4f1.30029968@news.cox.net>...
Don't believe those explosions, it's just that 'liberal media filter'.
http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7110976.htm
Hey, the US turned Iran into a democracy: they buggered
off after being kicked out and didn't interfere for 20
years while fundy muslims took over. Now that extremist
islam has run its course in Iran (and shown that it is
incapable of running a popular government), moderates
are taking over and creating a democracy.
The US was kicked out of Iran because it installed the Shah 20 years
earlier after the CIA organised the coup that ousted the Mossadeq
government. Mossadeq was selling the oil to whoever offered the
highest price, and used the money to benefit the country and its
citizenry. Which we couldn't "allow". So we replaced him and gave the
the Shah everything he and his secret police needed to stay in power
by squashing dissent.
We interfered by encouraging his neighbour (Saddam) to go to war with
them, providing the weaponry he needed and turning a blind eye when he
used gas with our tacit approval.
We shot down a civilian airliner because it flew "too close" to a US
destroyer. But what the heck it was doing in somebody else's war zone
was never properly explained. Something to to with re-flagging Iraqi
oil tankers as US to protect "our" oil supply?
Democratic governments aren't imposed, they are built
by the will of the people to overcome tyranny. The US
*is* the tyrant in Iraq. If Shrub *really* wanted Iraq
to become a democracy, he'd pull out instead of trying
to rape the country (an ingenious euphemism) and leave
Iraqis to their own devices.
He can't - he'll lose too much face. But he's going to lose it anyway.
In the mean time he's going to hang on and pretend he's right because
he can't admit it.
Like it or not, the west will have to leave Iraq and let
the fundy muslims take over. The only way to destroy
islamic governments is to let muslims do it themselves.
Either they will become democracies or come hat in hand
asking for help.
When they want the west's presence, they will ask for it.
In the meantime, we should all ***** and leave Iraq
to the Iraqis.
Unfortunately we have to undo the damage we did with our illegal
invasion. The rest of the world is reluctant to help as long as the US
is the one in charge - it makes the UN and the others look like agents
of the US, and legitimises the unjustifiable and illegal.
And the US has to pay for all the damage it caused. Not Iraq. It would
be like my neighbour taking a dislike to me and demolishing my house -
expecting me to pay for the rebuilding.
But we can't afford to do that. We can't even afford to maontain the
occupation. Even without the Bush tax cuts which haven't given me a
thing, but then I'm not a multi-millionaire.
Bob Dog
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| User: "JTEM" |
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27 Oct 2003 01:41:29 PM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote
The US was kicked out of Iran because it installed the
Shah 20 years earlier after the CIA organised the coup
that ousted the Mossadeq government.
It's vastly more complicated than that.
We interfered by encouraging his neighbour (Saddam)
to go to war with them, providing the weaponry he
needed and turning a blind eye when he used gas with
our tacit approval.
Why did Saddam "need" the anthrax that the Republicans
sold him? I mean, what did they expect him to do with it?
Who was he "Supposed" to use it on?
We shot down a civilian airliner because it flew "too
close" to a US destroyer.
Cruiser.
But what the heck it was doing in somebody else's war
zone was never properly explained.
What that particular ship was doing was attacking Iranian
navy boats.
Something to to with re-flagging Iraqi oil tankers as US
to protect "our" oil supply?
Kuwaiti tankers. Kuwait had given Iraq $billions$ to fight
it's war against Iran, so the Iranians were cutting off the
Kuwaiti revenue stream.
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| User: "gaffo" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQOver Heavy Attacks |
27 Oct 2003 09:29:08 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
he'd pull out instead of trying
to rape the country (an ingenious euphemism) and leave
Iraqis to their own devices.
He can't - he'll lose too much face. But he's going to lose it anyway.
In the mean time he's going to hang on and pretend he's right because
he can't admit it.
"peace with honour" and all that ;-).....................just sit back a
watch the slow self destruction of the little dictator ;-).
Unfortunately we have to undo the damage we did with our illegal
invasion. The rest of the world is reluctant to help as long as the US
is the one in charge - it makes the UN and the others look like agents
of the US, and legitimises the unjustifiable and illegal.
yep. and our Regime in Washington is too greedy and arrogant to ever
reliquish control. They will self destruct first.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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27 Oct 2003 11:06:54 AM |
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In article <e36qpv4noe28caquqf5or96956pppln1lg@4ax.com> Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> writes:
<On 27 Oct 2003 04:56:28 -0800, (Bob Dog) wrote:
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<>eacmole@SPAMmail.com (Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey?) wrote in message news:<3f9cb4f1.30029968@news.cox.net>...
<>> Don't believe those explosions, it's just that 'liberal media filter'.
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<>> http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7110976.htm
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<>Democratic governments aren't imposed, they are built
<>by the will of the people to overcome tyranny. The US
<>*is* the tyrant in Iraq. If Shrub *really* wanted Iraq
<>to become a democracy, he'd pull out instead of trying
<>to rape the country (an ingenious euphemism) and leave
<>Iraqis to their own devices.
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<He can't - he'll lose too much face. But he's going to lose it anyway.
<In the mean time he's going to hang on and pretend he's right because
<he can't admit it.
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You mean like his most recent claim -- that the increased levels
of violence just go to show how much progress we're making?
-- cary
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| User: "satyr" |
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27 Oct 2003 10:51:35 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:06:54 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
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<He can't - he'll lose too much face. But he's going to lose it anyway.
<In the mean time he's going to hang on and pretend he's right because
<he can't admit it.
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You mean like his most recent claim -- that the increased levels
of violence just go to show how much progress we're making?
I just saw a political button: Bush/Orwell 2004
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Alun Harford" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
28 Oct 2003 01:10:14 PM |
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"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote in message
news:adtrpvkomb7j7nr448k77uvrdhrvce2gmt@4ax.com...
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:06:54 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
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<He can't - he'll lose too much face. But he's going to lose it anyway.
<In the mean time he's going to hang on and pretend he's right because
<he can't admit it.
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You mean like his most recent claim -- that the increased levels
of violence just go to show how much progress we're making?
I just saw a political button: Bush/Orwell 2004
Bush makes his speeches based entirely on the way it's explained how we will
accept a totalitarian regime in 1984.
Big Brother Loves You:
The part where he thanks everybody for being there, making sure that he
selects an audience where there is no threat of resistance.
Stand by for an important anouncement from the ministry of truth:
He starts to instill fear and terror. He uses deliberately vague but
terrifying adjectives to describe the 'threats' that the US is facing.
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia and war is peace
Now that Bush establishes that these 'threats' are there FOREVER, it's
easier for the people to accept the concept of endless war.
Bush finishes this section with newspeak such as "we're at war to keep the
peace"
Hate the resistance
Now that Americans are willing to accept ANYTHING for a tiny little drop of
security, he impresses on them the vital importance of giving him massive
new powers, all 'for the good of America', such as locking people FOREVER
without trial, attacking Iraq, and so on.
We love Big Brother
To manipulate the public into accepting a fascist regime, every speech must
end on a positive note, as long as we will only go along with Bush. He uses
deliberately vivid imagery like "Planting the flag of freedom forever" and
"Winning the war for our children, and our children's children" and "To
sieze this moment for the good of the world and for freedom" and "People of
all faiths, all religions, all areas of our country are united in a common
effort to stamp out evil where we find it."
Next time you hear a speech from Big Brother, be sure to read the script
above as he reads it.
Alun Harford
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27 Oct 2003 08:17:10 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:06:54 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <e36qpv4noe28caquqf5or96956pppln1lg@4ax.com> Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> writes:
<On 27 Oct 2003 04:56:28 -0800, (Bob Dog) wrote:
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<>eacmole@SPAMmail.com (Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey?) wrote in message news:<3f9cb4f1.30029968@news.cox.net>...
<>> Don't believe those explosions, it's just that 'liberal media filter'.
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<>> http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7110976.htm
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<>Democratic governments aren't imposed, they are built
<>by the will of the people to overcome tyranny. The US
<>*is* the tyrant in Iraq. If Shrub *really* wanted Iraq
<>to become a democracy, he'd pull out instead of trying
<>to rape the country (an ingenious euphemism) and leave
<>Iraqis to their own devices.
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<He can't - he'll lose too much face. But he's going to lose it anyway.
<In the mean time he's going to hang on and pretend he's right because
<he can't admit it.
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You mean like his most recent claim -- that the increased levels
of violence just go to show how much progress we're making?
Yeah. Missiles being lobbed at the hotel even the President's right hand
con stays at is a measure of how much we've made Iraq secure.
Erm... is anybody else getting dizzy?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - From alt.atheism only
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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28 Oct 2003 01:49:07 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:06:54 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <e36qpv4noe28caquqf5or96956pppln1lg@4ax.com> Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> writes:
<On 27 Oct 2003 04:56:28 -0800, (Bob Dog) wrote:
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<>eacmole@SPAMmail.com (Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey?) wrote in message news:<3f9cb4f1.30029968@news.cox.net>...
<>> Don't believe those explosions, it's just that 'liberal media filter'.
<>>
<>> http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7110976.htm
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<>Democratic governments aren't imposed, they are built
<>by the will of the people to overcome tyranny. The US
<>*is* the tyrant in Iraq. If Shrub *really* wanted Iraq
<>to become a democracy, he'd pull out instead of trying
<>to rape the country (an ingenious euphemism) and leave
<>Iraqis to their own devices.
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<He can't - he'll lose too much face. But he's going to lose it anyway.
<In the mean time he's going to hang on and pretend he's right because
<he can't admit it.
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You mean like his most recent claim -- that the increased levels
of violence just go to show how much progress we're making?
Yes. Increased violence shows that we are making progress in making Iraq
secure.
And I read in the LA Times today that we're working with Syria and Iran
to stop the Saddam loyalist Ba'ath party members from coming into the
country. Er... I mean the foreign terrorists Saddam loyalists who used to
run Iraq. Er...
I mean people from inside and outside who are and aren't Saddam loyalists
are blowing things up because we're succeeding in securing Iraq.
Erm...
Anyway. The coalition we can't get anybody to support is growing day by
day. And the economy is strong so... people are lying when they say
they're unemployed?
Erm... um...
Well, at least Boykin who was appointed to lead a major administration
initiative doesn't reflect the opinions of the administration.
That's at least... confusing... news.
And Bush standing under the "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft
carrier was the fault of the crew of the carrier.
But, anyway... we obviously are making progress in securing Iraq because,
as the President said, "I can't put it any more plainly: Iraq is a
dangerous place."
I...
Erm...
Ah...
Oh, I give up...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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28 Oct 2003 02:27:40 PM |
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In article <pan.2003.10.28.19.49.02.128644@eac.org> "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> writes:
<On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:06:54 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
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<> In article <e36qpv4noe28caquqf5or96956pppln1lg@4ax.com> Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> writes:
<> <On 27 Oct 2003 04:56:28 -0800, (Bob Dog) wrote:
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<> <>eacmole@SPAMmail.com (Yang, What About Overrated White Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey?) wrote in message news:<3f9cb4f1.30029968@news.cox.net>...
<> <>> Don't believe those explosions, it's just that 'liberal media filter'.
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<> <>> http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7110976.htm
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<> <>Democratic governments aren't imposed, they are built
<> <>by the will of the people to overcome tyranny. The US
<> <>*is* the tyrant in Iraq. If Shrub *really* wanted Iraq
<> <>to become a democracy, he'd pull out instead of trying
<> <>to rape the country (an ingenious euphemism) and leave
<> <>Iraqis to their own devices.
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<> <He can't - he'll lose too much face. But he's going to lose it anyway.
<> <In the mean time he's going to hang on and pretend he's right because
<> <he can't admit it.
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<> You mean like his most recent claim -- that the increased levels
<> of violence just go to show how much progress we're making?
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<Yes. Increased violence shows that we are making progress in making Iraq
<secure.
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<And I read in the LA Times today that we're working with Syria and Iran
<to stop the Saddam loyalist Ba'ath party members from coming into the
<country. Er... I mean the foreign terrorists Saddam loyalists who used to
<run Iraq. Er...
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<I mean people from inside and outside who are and aren't Saddam loyalists
<are blowing things up because we're succeeding in securing Iraq.
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<Erm...
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<Anyway. The coalition we can't get anybody to support is growing day by
<day. And the economy is strong so... people are lying when they say
<they're unemployed?
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<Erm... um...
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<Well, at least Boykin who was appointed to lead a major administration
<initiative doesn't reflect the opinions of the administration.
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<That's at least... confusing... news.
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<And Bush standing under the "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft
<carrier was the fault of the crew of the carrier.
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<But, anyway... we obviously are making progress in securing Iraq because,
<as the President said, "I can't put it any more plainly: Iraq is a
<dangerous place."
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<I...
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<Erm...
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<Ah...
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<Oh, I give up...
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My position exactly.
-- cary
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
30 Oct 2003 12:43:37 AM |
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:49:07 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
Yes. Increased violence shows that we are making progress in making Iraq
secure.
And I see that the WMD hunters are being reassigned to security so I
guess that job is pretty much wrapped up.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
30 Oct 2003 03:02:09 AM |
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"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote
And I see that the WMD hunters are being reassigned to
security so I guess that job is pretty much wrapped up.
What we haven't seen though is where the $900,000,000
that congress gave them went.
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| User: "stoney" |
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30 Oct 2003 02:21:47 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:02:09 -0500, "JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com>, Message
ID: <s62dnbYuN51-Tz2iRVn-uw@comcast.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote
And I see that the WMD hunters are being reassigned to
security so I guess that job is pretty much wrapped up.
What we haven't seen though is where the $900,000,000
that congress gave them went.
Into the pockets of the proper people.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "JTEM" |
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30 Oct 2003 07:23:12 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote
"JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com>, Message
What we haven't seen though is where the $900,000,000
that congress gave them went.
Into the pockets of the proper people.
Halliburton?
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| User: "stoney" |
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31 Oct 2003 06:08:53 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:23:12 -0500, "JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com>, Message
ID: <xYKdnWgpxuFMJTyiRVn-iQ@comcast.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote
"JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com>, Message
What we haven't seen though is where the $900,000,000
that congress gave them went.
Into the pockets of the proper people.
Halliburton?
Among others.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
30 Oct 2003 05:08:17 PM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:02:09 -0500, "JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com>, Message
ID: <s62dnbYuN51-Tz2iRVn-uw@comcast.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote
And I see that the WMD hunters are being reassigned to
security so I guess that job is pretty much wrapped up.
What we haven't seen though is where the $900,000,000
that congress gave them went.
Into the pockets of the proper people.
Into the hands of Bush's campaign contributors, so that a chunk of the
money can be donated to his reelection campaign. (No other
explanation how Americans can come up with a couple hundred million to
waste on politicking when we are still trying to emerge from a
recession.).
lojbab
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lojbab
Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
31 Oct 2003 06:08:39 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:08:17 -0500, Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>,
Message ID: <fb63qvc128giug8o5ep10ubpj0hvbp215g@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:02:09 -0500, "JTEM" <jaytem@yahoo.com>, Message
ID: <s62dnbYuN51-Tz2iRVn-uw@comcast.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote
And I see that the WMD hunters are being reassigned to
security so I guess that job is pretty much wrapped up.
What we haven't seen though is where the $900,000,000
that congress gave them went.
Into the pockets of the proper people.
Into the hands of Bush's campaign contributors, so that a chunk of the
money can be donated to his reelection campaign. (No other
explanation how Americans can come up with a couple hundred million to
waste on politicking when we are still trying to emerge from a
recession.).
That too... :\
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
30 Oct 2003 01:45:46 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 3:02:09 -0600, JTEM wrote
(in message <s62dnbYuN51-Tz2iRVn-uw@comcast.com>):
"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote
And I see that the WMD hunters are being reassigned to
security so I guess that job is pretty much wrapped up.
What we haven't seen though is where the $900,000,000
that congress gave them went.
Administrative Overhead
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
30 Oct 2003 07:22:28 PM |
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"Gray Shockley" <gray-11@cybercoffee.org> wrote
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 3:02:09 -0600, JTEM wrote
What we haven't seen though is where the $900,000,000
that congress gave them went.
Administrative Overhead
They're supposedly fully funded for the next three to six months.
If anyone has truly been moved to "other priorities," that money
is required to be returned. After all, only congress has the
authority to appropriate funds.
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
27 Oct 2003 11:32:35 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Cary Kittrell wrote:
You mean like his most recent claim -- that the increased levels
of violence just go to show how much progress we're making?
It is hard to believe that there are folks who actually fall for that.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
30 Oct 2003 02:19:13 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:32:35 -0600, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu>,
Message ID:
<Pine.OSF.3.96.1031027113205.2528D-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Cary Kittrell wrote:
You mean like his most recent claim -- that the increased levels
of violence just go to show how much progress we're making?
It is hard to believe that there are folks who actually fall for that.
Not really. Consider the lack of an educated thinking populace.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
27 Oct 2003 08:15:38 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:18:52 +0000, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
The US was kicked out of Iran because it installed the Shah 20 years
earlier after the CIA organised the coup that ousted the Mossadeq
government. Mossadeq was selling the oil to whoever offered the
highest price, and used the money to benefit the country and its
citizenry. Which we couldn't "allow". So we replaced him and gave the
the Shah everything he and his secret police needed to stay in power
by squashing dissent.
Well, damn them! They were acting as if that oil belonged to *them.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - From alt.atheism only
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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| User: "satyr" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
31 Oct 2003 12:05:23 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:15:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:18:52 +0000, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
The US was kicked out of Iran because it installed the Shah 20 years
earlier after the CIA organised the coup that ousted the Mossadeq
government. Mossadeq was selling the oil to whoever offered the
highest price, and used the money to benefit the country and its
citizenry. Which we couldn't "allow". So we replaced him and gave the
the Shah everything he and his secret police needed to stay in power
by squashing dissent.
Well, damn them! They were acting as if that oil belonged to *them.
They have yet to explain what our oil is doing under their sand.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
31 Oct 2003 06:28:42 AM |
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:05:23 +0000, satyr wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:15:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:18:52 +0000, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
The US was kicked out of Iran because it installed the Shah 20 years
earlier after the CIA organised the coup that ousted the Mossadeq
government. Mossadeq was selling the oil to whoever offered the
highest price, and used the money to benefit the country and its
citizenry. Which we couldn't "allow". So we replaced him and gave the
the Shah everything he and his secret police needed to stay in power
by squashing dissent.
Well, damn them! They were acting as if that oil belonged to *them.
They have yet to explain what our oil is doing under their sand.
Irresponsible bunch!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQOver Heavy Attacks |
31 Oct 2003 08:21:08 AM |
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satyr wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:15:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:18:52 +0000, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
The US was kicked out of Iran because it installed the Shah 20 years
earlier after the CIA organised the coup that ousted the Mossadeq
government. Mossadeq was selling the oil to whoever offered the
highest price, and used the money to benefit the country and its
citizenry. Which we couldn't "allow". So we replaced him and gave the
the Shah everything he and his secret police needed to stay in power
by squashing dissent.
Well, damn them! They were acting as if that oil belonged to *them.
They have yet to explain what our oil is doing under their sand.
If it's "our oil" why did Bush go to great lengths to *prevent* the
Congress from putting a lien on future oil production to pay for the
Iraqi reconstruction?
--
Fred Stone
Illegitimi non Carborundum
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
31 Oct 2003 10:35:22 AM |
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In article <vq4ru8l754kuc2@news.supernews.com> Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:
<satyr wrote:
<> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:15:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<> <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
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<>
<>>On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:18:52 +0000, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
<>>
<>>
<>>>The US was kicked out of Iran because it installed the Shah 20 years
<>>>earlier after the CIA organised the coup that ousted the Mossadeq
<>>>government. Mossadeq was selling the oil to whoever offered the
<>>>highest price, and used the money to benefit the country and its
<>>>citizenry. Which we couldn't "allow". So we replaced him and gave the
<>>>the Shah everything he and his secret police needed to stay in power
<>>>by squashing dissent.
<>>
<>>Well, damn them! They were acting as if that oil belonged to *them.
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<> They have yet to explain what our oil is doing under their sand.
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<If it's "our oil" why did Bush go to great lengths to *prevent* the
<Congress from putting a lien on future oil production to pay for the
<Iraqi reconstruction?
I believe you may be confusing the corporate "our" with the
national "our".
-- cary
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq Under Control, Claims US As They Retreat From Baghdad HQ Over Heavy Attacks |
27 Oct 2003 08:14:35 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:06:08 +0000, Yang, What About Overrated White
Athletes Like Jeremy Shockey? wrote:
Don't believe those explosions, it's just that 'liberal media filter'.
http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/7110976.htm
Bush says it's a reaction to our progress. Our progressing to the
point where people can haul missiles into downtown Baghdad and lob them at
Paul Wolfowitz himself apparently...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - From alt.atheism only
"The computer revolution is over. We lost."
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